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Offline ampersand

Chaps,

I believe that this may have been discussed before, but I am not sure and it may be of use to all of us.

I have a FB account that I use for membership of a non-punting club.

I read somewhere that FB sucks information from mobile phones if the app is used. I also read that if you have your phone number linked to  your account, it will use the information to suggest friends. This came to my attention when a gentleman, with whose wife I had a vehicular (too) close encounter with, popped up as a friend suggestion. I discovered that this was because I had saved his number into my phone. I therefore unlinked my phone from my Facebook account.

Since that time, I have continued to receive friend suggestions for people whose numbers I have in my phone. I assumed that this was because FB had saved the information it had harvested from my phone and was continuing to use it.

Today, a lady with whom I have punted was suggested as a friend. For some reason, I had saved the number she had given me into my personal phone (under a pseudonym) - she had told me that it was a personal number and I omitted to remove it. To the  best of my knowledge I have never called her from my personal number, so she should not have it.

My question is this - having made a link between her number saved in my phone (I assume) and her account - presumably because her number is linked to it - and made the suggestion to me, will a reciprocal suggestion have been made to her?

Is there any way to completely unlink my phone (as it clearly hasn't been) from FB?

Thanks!

A.   
« Last Edit: December 14, 2015, 12:27:06 am by aardvark »

Offline Jerboa

Right yes this has been mentioned before, Facebook and smart phones are fuckers for this, only the other day a hookers personal FB profile came up on my facebook messanger on my punting phone, it works as I have her number saved in contacts, this is obviously her work phone, so she would be mistaken to think all if safe, no my guess is she has her personal FB set up on her work phone, so the clever fuckers at FB decide to share friend suggestions as her and other girls numbers are stored in my phone.

LL

  • Guest
I've decided it's unsafe to use the Facebook app if you punt. Sooner or later it'll catch you out. Last week I was using the app and it asked me, "would you like to post a link to your last forum post to you friends?". Underneath was the link - yep, you guessed it - a link to a UKPunting thread. So I clicked "no" of course. However it occurred to me that I was only one click away from being exposed as a punter to many of my friends and family members. I.e it would be a fairly easy mistake to click the wrong box - yes instead of no, on a small screen - my smartphone.

I have since deleted the Facebook app and don't plan to use it again. I browse and post to UKP on the same device that the Facebook app was running on, yet it's always closed at the time and my UKP posting is only ever done whilst the browser is running in private mode.

So what does this tell me about the Facebook app?
- It monitors my web browsing in real-time.
- It can do so even when it's apparently closed.
- It has no regard for browsing data gleaned from a session I have started in private mode.

For now, on the rare occasion I use Facebook I'll do so via the website not the app. I presume this is safe, currently.

carefree

  • Guest
Simple answer?  Close your facebook account :thumbsup:

I had a Facebook account a few years ago,  until I got bored of reading posts from people I hadn't seen for years explaining what they'd had for dinner, or pictures of their dog/cat/snotty kid :unknown:

So, I closed it down......I couldn't have been less interested if I tried :lol:

vw

  • Guest
Simple answer?  Close your facebook account :thumbsup:

I had a Facebook account a few years ago,  until I got bored of reading posts from people I hadn't seen for years explaining what they'd had for dinner, or pictures of their dog/cat/snotty kid :unknown:

So, I closed it down......I couldn't have been less interested if I tried :lol:
wise words, I certainty don't miss it, but the lemmings cannot comprehend people not having it !

carefree

  • Guest
wise words, I certainty don't miss it, but the lemmings cannot comprehend people not having it !

Too true, bless em :D

Offline Mansell

For the reasons the OP has found, I have never registered my phone with FB, even though it keeps asking. This seems at the  moment to have kept it seperate, but I do worry about FB creep and as has been said it does seem to be harvesting more and more info. I actually do use it, as have a lot of friends through the UK and therefore find it useful. But if it gets to invasive then it's gone. !!

vw

  • Guest
I actually do use it, as have a lot of friends through the UK !!
I have native American friends and send smoke signals rather than use that pile of garbage !

Offline smiths

These warning threads are always welcomed by me as new punters are joining all the time. This has been mentioned before but doesn't affect me as I have zero interest in the shit that is FB or Twatter.

My advice to punters is use a basic old mobile, mine has served me well for years for punting, but if you are going to use a Smartphone and aren't sure about it causing you problems ask on here and as ever some punters will give good advice.

Offline Agent W

On iOS go to Settings > Privacy > Facebook, and uncheck Contacts.

In the FB app go to More > Settings > Account settings > Privacy > Who can look you up using the phone number you provided?

There's no guarantee how watertight this is of course as there's no "Send my personal family Facebook page to every prostitute who saves my phone number?" option and FB say their Friend Finder algorithm is continuously evolving. As aardvark mentioned it's possible they've cached the number but I would hope that continuing to use it after you have instructed them not to would be a breach of the Data Protection Act (though legally perhaps as the profile belongs to them and the recipient already has your number it might be a bit of a grey area).

The "suggested link" function has given me some scares too, and there's no privacy setting to prevent it. However, I don't think it's watching you while closed, it's just reading the copy/paste buffer like any other app, but then checking whether it looks like a URL and if so offering it as a suggestion (other apps do the same thing, but with the exception of Twitter they probably have rather less scope for catastrophic consequences). It probably sounded lovely at the meeting where they came up with it.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2015, 11:48:17 am by Agent W »

Offline Marmalade

Google, Samsung etc seem to be moving towards an opt-out policy of sharing everything about you with everyone (under the guise of, "make it easier to find your friends", as if you lost them in the first place!) Then there will be some hooha about "protecting your privacy" which will be appeasement bollox. Whatsapp of course is owned by Facebook.

Offline mattylondon

Chaps,

I believe that this may have been discussed before, but I am not sure and it may be of use to all of us.


I've said this before and will say it again, as have others, the best advice I can give is don't use a smart phone for punting.

Get a cheap £10, non smart phone and use an unregistered SIM. Then you don't have to worry about questions like this.

Offline Agent W

I've said this before and will say it again, as have others, the best advice I can give is don't use a smart phone for punting.

Get a cheap £10, non smart phone and use an unregistered SIM. Then you don't have to worry about questions like this.
Sound advice of course, though personally I'd then be living in even more fear of my punting phone being found. I'm not sure I can think of an innocent reason why I'd have a second phone, and the wife has seen enough movies, Breaking Bad etc to jump to the right conclusion.

Offline Agent W

On iOS go to Settings > Privacy > Facebook, and uncheck Contacts.
Crap, I meant go to Settings > Privacy > Contacts and uncheck Facebook.

carefree

  • Guest
I actually do use it, as have a lot of friends through the UK and therefore find it useful.

Me too, but I prefer to pick up the phone, send them a text or actually meet up with them.  That way I don't get to know what they had for dinner the night before or see shit pics of their pets  :lol:

Facebook when it was new was kind of a fun novelty, now its just naff, in my opinion of course :thumbsup:

Offline daveev

set face book so you can't be searched or messaged, i have and works fine, yes i can search open profiles still

vw

  • Guest
Me too, but I prefer to pick up the phone, send them a text or actually meet up with them.  That way I don't get to know what they had for dinner the night before or see shit pics of their pets  :lol:

Facebook when it was new was kind of a fun novelty, now its just naff, in my opinion of course :thumbsup:
#To be honest most of the fuckers you are connected to on there you wouldn't bother communicating with in the real world.


Even the kids are leaving in droves as there are to many oldies on there, now that's an invasion of your privacy.

Snaposhat

carefree

  • Guest
#To be honest most of the fuckers you are connected to on there you wouldn't bother communicating with in the real world.


Even the kids are leaving in droves as there are to many oldies on there, now that's an invasion of your privacy.

Snaposhat

Exactly my point.  I bet 100% that everyone with a FB account has at least a handful of people as "friends" who they don't actually know that well, are friends of friends or are people they haven't seen for 20 years having only known them from school and have absolutely nothing in common with.

Horses for courses, but pretty sad if you ask me. :unknown:

Offline mattylondon

Exactly my point.  I bet 100% that everyone with a FB account has at least a handful of people as "friends" who they don't actually know that well, are friends of friends or are people they haven't seen for 20 years having only known them from school and have absolutely nothing in common with.

Horses for courses, but pretty sad if you ask me. :unknown:

I agree. Phantom friends. How many of those are real friends?

Perhaps a decent platform for keeping in contact with people over a longer distance. However, I'd have thought that if you couldn't be arsed to maintain contact, it's for a reason and that they're not really good friends?  :unknown:

Not a great fan of it.

If people insist on using a smartphone, then they're playing with fire. Not only Facebook but other social media, whatsapp, viber and of course, location services. The safe bet is to use a non smart phone, lock the sim, lock the phone and keep it securely at work or somewhere else, rather than in the home. I would also watch out for prossies who own smart phones too and make sure they're well out of reach during a punt, with their cameras and recording software too.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2015, 01:38:13 pm by mattylondon »

Offline Marmalade

I think part of what makes a friendship is the effort that person will go to for you. Facebook was invented for people at a college who are in each others' faces anyway.

Offline mattylondon

I think part of what makes a friendship is the effort that person will go to for you.
A great line and I agree.

Offline Marmalade

A great line and I agree.
My next one is, but I've got enough friends: how about some fun? ;) :P

Offline Agent W

The safe bet is to use a non smart phone, lock the sim, lock the phone and keep it securely at work or somewhere else, rather than in the home.
The risk with that comes when you punt on the way home from work, or at the weekend (not that there's much talent around at the weekend that I can cover with a gym trip, but I live in hope). There are going to be times when I would have an incriminating phone in my bag, and that would scare me.

Offline Marmalade

We've had many threads on this but it's like safe sex, you have to find out what is appropriate for you: there's no simple rule for everyone (although a cheap separate phone for punting is usually good advice for most newbies).

Smartphones leak like a pox-infected fanny, but there are many security tricks and strategies that can be used as well as 'punter-friendly' apps. Smartphones can store info securely but very badly without precautions. They are also useful for mapping, finding your way there and back, checking her profile and 'plan b' options, hiding photos or a shitload of other useful stuff. That also makes them a bigger liability (plus they're more expensive to replace).

Most newbies that get into trouble have probably been tempted to let the blood run from brain to cock in anticipation too much. You need to think cold and hard first.

Who do I want to protect information from? (Wife, partner, family, casual onlookers, police if you were kerbcrawling)
How difficult is it to protect? (More protection = more hassle)
What are the consequences if someone gets it that shouldn't? (eg, google doesn't care, your mates might rib you, but your wifey-cow would make life hell)
What's a sensible security-freedom tradeoff?

If you want total security, don't punt, don't make phone calls, don't use the internet.
If you 'have nothing to hide' and don't care who knows, then what exactly are you being paranoid about?

For newbies, or experienced punters in a new environment, such as some developing country shithole, the general rule is start with maximum security until you find your way around; then adjust as seems reasonable. fwiw.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2015, 02:19:05 pm by Marmalade »

Offline Marmalade

The risk with that comes when you punt on the way home from work, or at the weekend (not that there's much talent around at the weekend that I can cover with a gym trip, but I live in hope). There are going to be times when I would have an incriminating phone in my bag, and that would scare me.

And an 'incriminating' phone can just as easily be some cheap piece of shit: so you need a routine. Delete all numbers, texts, phone logs straight after the punt.

Offline smiths

For those punters who cant hide a second punting phone just a dedicated punting sim is an option of course. Everyone should be able to hide such a tiny thing, just remember to change it to and from when you need to, or get a dual sim.

Andre 3000

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Having a second sim is smart but I hate the process of swapping round these nano sims, seeing how smartphones are now so cheap,  I have two. Main expensive one for my friends,families and work and a second £50 one for escorting. That way you can have all the benefits of the smartphone contacting escorts through watsapp, web browser, and GPS, etc. A sim card costs a £1.00. Nowadays if you we're really paranoid you could have multiple sim cards for escorts.

I used to have a nice deal on my EE sim before I left the country. £10 for 500mb of data, unlimited texts and 90mins of calling on PAYG. More than enough for any potential eventualities. And better than a dumbphone. Which in this day and age is actually more suspicious if someone finds it and asks why you have one.

Also having a smartphone means you have something to connect as a internet device at home that only you use. Especially wise for those of you who share computers and iPads with others and still do escort research on them. Which I personally think is crazy.

Offline mattylondon

The risk with that comes when you punt on the way home from work, or at the weekend (not that there's much talent around at the weekend that I can cover with a gym trip, but I live in hope). There are going to be times when I would have an incriminating phone in my bag, and that would scare me.
In a scenario like that, it might be safer to find a safe place in your car to keep it?

Offline mattylondon

For those punters who cant hide a second punting phone just a dedicated punting sim is an option of course. Everyone should be able to hide such a tiny thing, just remember to change it to and from when you need to, or get a dual sim.
The problem with that is something as small as a SIM can easily be lost. I still think it's safer to use one of those cheap and small £10 phones (locked) and a punting sim (locked), then find somewhere safe to keep it. On a public forum, probably best not to offer too many suggestions!  :D

vw

  • Guest
The problem with that is something as small as a SIM can easily be lost. I still think it's safer to use one of those cheap and small £10 phones (locked) and a punting sim (locked), then find somewhere safe to keep it. On a public forum, probably best not to offer too many suggestions!  :D
Keeping it up your ass is a good place to hide a phone, many guys in prison do this, just avoid phone snobbery and use the smaller phones if hiding with this method.

Aspen

  • Guest
Having a second sim is smart but I hate the process of swapping round these nano sims, seeing how smartphones are now so cheap,  I have two. Main expensive one for my friends,families and work and a second £50 one for escorting. That way you can have all the benefits of the smartphone contacting escorts through watsapp, web browser, and GPS, etc. A sim card costs a £1.00. Nowadays if you we're really paranoid you could have multiple sim cards for escorts.

I used to have a nice deal on my EE sim before I left the country. £10 for 500mb of data, unlimited texts and 90mins of calling on PAYG. More than enough for any potential eventualities. And better than a dumbphone. Which in this day and age is actually more suspicious if someone finds it and asks why you have one.

Also having a smartphone means you have something to connect as a internet device at home that only you use. Especially wise for those of you who share computers and iPads with others and still do escort research on them. Which I personally think is crazy.

Also if you use a second SIM in a phone, it is possible the phone will "remember" the calls you made, and the cellphone system certainly will. As soon as you even switch a phone on the serial numbers of the phone and the SIM are recorded, logged and associated with each other, also the location i.e. cell. You don't even need to make a call for that to happen.

Offline Marmalade

Keeping it up your ass is a good place to hide a phone, many guys in prison do this, just avoid phone snobbery and use the smaller phones if hiding with this method.
before or after rimming? :wacko:

Offline Frenchie

I don't have a smart  phone!! .. I'm an old git and don't need one .. I have an old Nokia which is six years old ( and French !! ).. I have used it about three times for ANYTHING  to do with punting ... generally if I can't contact a girl via AW email ... I don't use her ....

I've only sent about six texts in my whole life !  Dinosaur ... yes ... but a safe dinosaur !!!

These smart phones are dangerous ... as discussed  before ... get a cheap pay as you go punting phone ..that doesn't have anything to do with the internet !!!

np500

  • Guest
I have an I phone 6, but use my old 5s as a punting phone but had it totally cleared of all stuff relating to me and set it up with a fictitious name pass words, e-mail address etc, have no interest in twatter or Facebook etc , but if I did I'd use the punting phone and would never ring my self ( to see if shit was working ) as I do not want them linked in any way , I also don't use the computer in the house for obvious reasons , as I'm in my 50's and not computer / techno minded I just avoid any possible fuck ups as best I can, all you can do realy !

willbred

  • Guest
wise words, I certainty don't miss it, but the lemmings cannot comprehend people not having it !

+1. For social media & punting...read dynamite & matches

Offline tazz

This is really odd and never happened to me before, a WG whose profile i had been browsing on AW came up when i went on FB under people you may know. Was able to see all her photos so knew what to expect before i saw her. Has this happened to anyone else? Just dont get how that can be.

Offline Agent W

This is really odd and never happened to me before, a WG whose profile i had been browsing on AW came up when i went on FB under people you may know. Was able to see all her photos so knew what to expect before i saw her. Has this happened to anyone else? Just dont get how that can be.
That is strange, I thought it only got that from your contacts. Maybe you already know her :)

The other scary thing with smartphones, now you remind me, is location tracking. I live in dread of my wife finding out that my phone can do that and wanting it kept on.

Offline azrael

Doesnt matter if you use face book, whatsapp or any other type of app your info is sold on to third parties who then advertise on your phone, tablet, laptop or pc unless you log in on incognito mode. If you have an android or ios phone when you download an app it ask for access to your phone book text and email which they then monitor and send adverts of items which the're promoting. 

Offline Taggart

This inter-relationship between different apps that store and pass mobile numbers is a nightmare.

My FB is set for logon via my work email, and no phone number appears in the FB settings and auto uploads contacts is off. Location and location history is off, so what more can one do?

I use a punting phone, but not what's app, but when I head off to the UAE soon, I cant take the punting phone as Mrs T might be suspicious, so main phone will need to be used. Cant do a sim swap as different sizes.

Offline azrael

Try using the incognito/private internet page when logging onto pages like this or aw, porn sites. Just dont register your phone number with any type of social media. Its not only apps like fb, whatsapp or twitter even downloading games like angry birds ask for access to your contacts text emails even your calender.

Offline dave_59

I've a punting phone, with nothing but a few nember in.
Definately no apps.
PC at home has a couple of browsers.
Chrome/IE that Mrs knows about then off all menus Maxthon -it's provact settings excellent.
Married Punters = sneaky bast''''

Offline Marmalade

Haven't used them but I think there's a smartphone app out now which is the equivalent of the Mac Workflow. A one tap protocol to cleanse or hide everything from a casually prying o/h.

Lots of photo apps that disguise themselves as something else with a decoy if password not used but hiding/disguising a whole bunch of files and apps on a smartphone is probably harder, especially if it's not rooted.

Offline Fishface

The problem with that is something as small as a SIM can easily be lost. I still think it's safer to use one of those cheap and small £10 phones (locked) and a punting sim (locked), then find somewhere safe to keep it. On a public forum, probably best not to offer too many suggestions!  :D

I know how to lock a phone but how do you lock a SIM card?

I've always assumed that even if a phone is locked all that needs to be done is to remove the SIM card and put it in another phone to check content make calls etc?
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Offline tazz

I think it may have arisen because i had previously called and text her. I know with FB they place adverts on the side in response to websites you've visited because of the cookies stored on the computer/laptop. Its just that this never happened before, but in some way a good thing as i got to her her profile and photos which i cant see on her AW profile.

Spanky_bum_time

  • Guest
I also had a narrow escape with Facebook, Posted a review on my iPad then went to check Facebook and it asked if I wanted to post the link to my recent post, The link was already there and I had to click the x to delete it, Even though I'm single and can do what I want it could have buggered my job up as have lots of work friends on Facebook. I like using smartphones and tablets as can browse AW whenever I like even just before a punt to refresh my mind as to what the WG looks like and services offered.