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Author Topic: Lawyer Jailed For Running A Brothel....  (Read 4177 times)

Offline softlad

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179066/Lawyer-jailed-running-brothel-empire-Horrible-creature-trapped-police-offered-girls-mistake.html

Quite a few interesting points in this article.

He took £20 out of every £50 his ho's earned for a 1hr booking !
Damn wish I'd know about that place @£50ph.... :D
Even so if he was taking that amount how busy would the place need to be to make him rich ?

Neighbours complained about "obscene sounds & screams"
I'm guessing they mean the ho's false moans and graons..  :D

Not the first time I've heard of the police answering a call for one reason then charging the person reporting a crime with something related to prostitution
it seems it's easier to solve than the crime that was origionally reported.
All these who think they have the protection of the law are quite misguided imo.

Scroll down the article to read the comments below it.
I liked this one, surely it was left by a pro$$ie ?  :)

Quote from: comment from article
Re an earlier comment about the girls not paying tax on their earnings. Here's a conundrum for the government. Is it immoral not to pay tax on immoral earnings?





« Last Edit: July 27, 2012, 10:08:24 AM by softlad »

WFB was famous in its day which is why I avoided it. Discreet is better, go for suburban indies every time.

How come the state missed his not paying his money back? A large sum to overlook.


Offline mattylondon

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179066/Lawyer-jailed-running-brothel-empire-Horrible-creature-trapped-police-offered-girls-mistake.html

I'm pretty sure ( but obviously could be wrong), that although it's well known people or agencies take 'a cut' of a girl's earnings, isn't that illegal? That is, living off immoral earnings?

Offline Jimmyredcab

I'm pretty sure ( but obviously could be wrong), that although it's well known people or agencies take 'a cut' of a girl's earnings, isn't that illegal? That is, living off immoral earnings?

It might be called something else now but the basic answer is yes, that is why he is banged up.   ;)

Offline smiths

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179066/Lawyer-jailed-running-brothel-empire-Horrible-creature-trapped-police-offered-girls-mistake.html

Quite a few interesting points in this article.

He took £20 out of every £50 his ho's earned for a 1hr booking !
Damn wish I'd know about that place @£50ph.... :D
Even so if he was taking that amount how busy would the place need to be to make him rich ?

Neighbours complained about "obscene sounds & screams"
I'm guessing they mean the ho's false moans and graons..  :D

Not the first time I've heard of the police answering a call for one reason then charging the person reporting a crime with something related to prostitution
it seems it's easier to solve than the crime that was origionally reported.
All these who think they have the protection of the law are quite misguided imo.

Scroll down the article to read the comments below it.
I liked this one, surely it was left by a pro$$ie ?  :)

No mention of any force/coercion used i note. He was very very silly to involve the police and them coming round, doesnt sound too smart to me.

Also why didnt the police know he was still running a brothel, its their job to know about very easily detectable crime going on in their area in my view.

After being done previously he didnt learn, now he suffers the consequences of his lack of brains.

Offline smiths

I'm pretty sure ( but obviously could be wrong), that although it's well known people or agencies take 'a cut' of a girl's earnings, isn't that illegal? That is, living off immoral earnings?

It certainly is, Controlling for Gain. Totally illegal but tolerated in some areas by the police who know perfectly well places are brothels.

Offline mattylondon

It certainly is, Controlling for Gain. Totally illegal but tolerated in some areas by the police who know perfectly well places are brothels.
Thanks smiths, I was beginning to doubt myself!  :D

Probably the ones dealing with blackmail were not the ones who deal with the brothels and the ones who collect the fine/proceeds of crime, uncollected, yet another lot.

Offline softlad

Probably the ones dealing with blackmail were not the ones who deal with the brothels and the ones who collect the fine/proceeds of crime, uncollected, yet another lot.

I know an indie who was attacked last year, she reported it to the police who came to her appartment, saw the guy on CCTV but didn't have enough evidence so prosecuted her for running a brothel and money laundering !
Last time she'll phone the police me thinks, and yes it was the same officer that dealt with both crimes.
Sometimes the law sucks.... :(

Offline up_peri_scope

Quote
Sometimes the law sucks....

The law is only interested in soft targets so they can get a quick arrest. :dash:

Online James999

I know an indie who was attacked last year, she reported it to the police who came to her appartment, saw the guy on CCTV but didn't have enough evidence so prosecuted her for running a brothel and money laundering !

If she was an indie then she wouldn't have been running a brothel ?

As for money laundering, if she wasn't paying tax it's hard to have sympathy  :hi:

Sounds to me like she has given you part of the story  :timeout

Offline softlad

If she was an indie then she wouldn't have been running a brothel ?

She shared her flat 50/50 but it was in her name.
Nothing happened to the other one and I doubt she paid tax either....
« Last Edit: July 27, 2012, 04:28:31 PM by softlad »

Online James999

So she was running a Brothel  :dash:

And the other girl, if she was just working in a brothel that's not an offence so nowonder the Police were not interested in her

You can't conduct a criminal activity and expect the police to turn a blind eye just because you report another criminal activity, if the police ignored her offences then they would have been castigated for that, it appears whatever they did they couldn't win, of course they should have tracked the attacker if possible, but that is another matter.

Offline softlad

So she was running a Brothel  :dash:

As you put it like that 'yer onour'... :music:

Online James999

That's what I can't get, they run Brothels knowing they are illegal, don't pay tax, knowing it's illegal and then complain when they get nicked  :dash:

At least the local drug dealers don't complain when they get busted  :cry:

Offline softlad

That's what I can't get, they run Brothels knowing they are illegal,

They aren't all as clued up as some on what constitutes for a brothel.
The one I refer to and her friend were under the impression that if only one worked there at any one time it was not a brothel.
There will be many more who think the same, remember that Karin we had on here slipped up she did the same...
« Last Edit: July 27, 2012, 04:39:47 PM by softlad »

Online James999

They aren't all as clued up as some on what constitutes for a brothel.

As for being clued up, whilst charging £100 - £150 an hour they are well placed to use an accountant and have formal tax affairs, and of course legal advice over setting up the company etc, they just ignore this and pocket the cash, great all the time the benefits are rolling in as well as the cash, but when the shit hits the fan it's the "I didn't know" routine, I suppose they also thoughr they "didn't know" you had to pay tax, odd how clued they are when it comes to playing the benefits system though  :hi:

Also softlad, if the other girl just worked there once how would anyone (in particular the police) know? sounds like the trust has been given some pro$$ie spin  :wackogirl:

Offline smiths

I know an indie who was attacked last year, she reported it to the police who came to her appartment, saw the guy on CCTV but didn't have enough evidence so prosecuted her for running a brothel and money laundering !
Last time she'll phone the police me thinks, and yes it was the same officer that dealt with both crimes.
Sometimes the law sucks.... :(

Thats what happened to SashaB ex of Cloud9. They were robbed by scumbags who were never caught and she got done for running brothels.

Thats one of the problems with running a wholly illegal business though.

Offline smiths

That's what I can't get, they run Brothels knowing they are illegal, don't pay tax, knowing it's illegal and then complain when they get nicked  :dash:

At least the local drug dealers don't complain when they get busted  :cry:

In theory though the police arent regularly visiting the drug dealer drinking tea and telling him or her that they can continue to operate as long as they accept the police will drop in every now and then to check up on them. In Manchester the GMP they even had a formal agreement with some brothels under a scheme they set up, didnt stop those same brothels getting raided when the GMP decided to though. ;)

Ultimately, yes they know its illegal so being nicked should never come as a surprise though. Its how thick these brothel owners seem to be as shown by the story about the ex-solicitor that stands out to me.

Offline smiths

They aren't all as clued up as some on what constitutes for a brothel.
The one I refer to and her friend were under the impression that if only one worked there at any one time it was not a brothel.
There will be many more who think the same, remember that Karin we had on here slipped up she did the same...

Indeed there are. Its always best to find out about the relevant laws BEFORE becoming a WG though in my view. They are all over the net if they looked. ;)

Online James999

In theory though the police arent regularly visiting the drug dealer drinking tea and telling him or her that they can continue to operate as long as they accept the police will drop in every now and then to check up on them

I think a lot of that is "Pro$$ie Urban myth" ok the odd place may have friendly visits but if you believed what pro$$ies said the plod would spend their entire shifts in brothels drinking tea  :hi:  whilst the pro$$ies are all in a long line at the Gum clinic getting a check up  :dash:




Offline up_peri_scope

If the law legalised prositution it would solve a number of issues. A "legal" pro$$ie would then clearly be a business and then not have to pussy foot around the system if they want to pay tax. At the moment they can hide as it is not deemed to be legit.

One of the pro$$ie$ I used to visit was also set up as a hairdresser. It was really handy as I sometimes also got my haircut.  :yahoo:

She started the hairdressing business after being in the game a couple years and then realised it would be difficult to get any bank loans for car, house, etc.

After about 5 years she packed up being a pro$$ie and now has a hair salon.  :coolgirl:

Was disappointed when she told me was packing up but I still think good luck to her. In fact reading about some of the old hags with dusty phones definitely think she made the right decision for herself.

Online James999

If the law legalised prositution

 :dash: :dash: :dash: :dash: :dash:

Prostitution is not illegal    :hi:

Offline up_peri_scope

It is not per se. But running brothels is.
Two girls working from the same property constitutes a brothel, thereby making it illegal and the law needs to accommodate this.

Online James999

It is not per se. But running brothels is.
Two girls working from the same property constitutes a brothel, thereby making it illegal and the law needs to accommodate this.

But you said prostitution, it is not illegal to be a prostitute, there are lots of other things are, including shooting someone, but the point you made was about prostitution.

The reason pro$$ies don't declare to the tax man is simple, they don't want to pay tax or lose benefits, and as the transactions are cash they can hide the trade.

They would not like to work in a regulated brothel with health checks, tax and charges, and loss of benefit, that would be like turkeys voting for Christmas  :hi:

As for changing th elaw to allow girls to flat share, why? what benefit does that give other than increasing the girls profit by lowering her costs,  ok if you want a threesome could be handy.

You will hear pro$$ies say it's for "security" but that';s just a smoke screen as a size 8 5ft cutie is nowehre near as effective as security as a 18 stone 6ft 4 guy, but then they would have to pay the guy  :angelgirl:
« Last Edit: July 27, 2012, 05:52:22 PM by James999 »


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