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skyedupree

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Not that I want to stick up for the guy (as he was very arrogant to me in another thread), but how can mm2 have offered cash for bb and a 'fake' review to the same girl (sexy dupree or something)?

Surely he would have offered a good review for it. Yes it be inaccurate in that he wouldn't disclose the bb, but fake?

Surely a good review could only really be considered fully fake if the girl usually provides a shit service or the meet never happened.

Also, the girls all don't seem to be accusing him of forcing them, only of asking for bb. It looks like only one or two have accused him of forcing them, but people are taking all of the accusations as being forced.

Coolguy- he asked and offered fake review whilst i was on tour in march this year in newcastle obviously i declined and a review was never made. Yes the review was going to be fake, he said he would do it so i was very busy whilst i was in the north east,
Like i said i have never met him, only spoke to him on the phone, that is how i found out he was asian with a gordie accent and married as he told me when i questioned why he wanted bb if it was frowned upon, in which he replied i know you dont do it, its just my fantasy

OldAdmin

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themademan2 down.
joecampos09 aka fundude09 down.

But this one still needs identifying:

There is actually another AdultWork account, called nufcdude, this one isn't demanding bareback, instead it's regular positive UKP reviews in return for discounted rate. This account actually has AdultWork feedback.

This is his AdultWork feedback:
External Link/Members Only

Rod trotter

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im very health conscious as you will know, and i now need another trip to the clinic due to all this shit, but in truth i would have had to go again any way.

my situation and with whats happened has made me give up my hobby for a long time if not forever, its a world of mistrust i'm not wanting to be part of for a long time. i cant go on with the worry, i cant trust anyone at the minute  :(

Offline AnthG

This is his AdultWork feedback:
External Link/Members Only

The two feedbacks he has received from someone signing off as Angel. I am pretty sure who used to close off her feedback with this. But don't want to say who on the open forum due to her own issues she has.

I have never seen her but someone could possibly message her and ask if she remembers him? And can identify him possibly as a result. If he has seen her multiple times she may remember him.
Banned reason: To much drama, account closed
Banned by: Iloveoral

coolguy1990

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Coolguy- he asked and offered fake review whilst i was on tour in march this year in newcastle obviously i declined and a review was never made. Yes the review was going to be fake, he said he would do it so i was very busy whilst i was in the north east,
Like i said i have never met him, only spoke to him on the phone, that is how i found out he was asian with a gordie accent and married as he told me when i questioned why he wanted bb if it was frowned upon, in which he replied i know you dont do it, its just my fantasy
Hi Skye,

Sorry I got your name wrong.

What did he offer you in return for a fake review?


vw

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Hi Skye,

Sorry I got your name wrong.

What did he offer you in return for a fake review?
Bareback and she declined !

skyedupree

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Hi Skye,

Sorry I got your name wrong.

What did he offer you in return for a fake review?

Its ok, its only a name, he offered to make me very busy in newcastle as he was a top reviewer in the ne ukpunting as he can do that.

Gave me a roleplay scenario he wanted, this was all on the phone. To tie me up and dom me but he wanted the sex raw, which i said nooooooo and even said to him how unfair men call girls who offer this as dirty but you are asking me, he said i dont ask everyone, just you dont do it and its a challenge, plus its my fantasy .

No review was made for me.

He would take me out, show me round newcastle

Ive said this over and over again but never met him
« Last Edit: December 08, 2015, 09:11:37 pm by skyedupree »

greychap

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You get what i'm saying?

Now someone on uke claimed 10 girls had accused him of forcing them, and they even listed the girls, but if you read through every single post, most of them just said he offered £ for bb.

People were even saying why would a girl who doesn't even work in Newcastle lie about it, as if that proved he'd forced her, but she just claimed he'd offered £ for bb.

One girl was just quoted as being scared, so that's only hearsay.

I wonder just how many girls are willing to say he tried to force bb and have evidence.

It does not mean he forced all girls to try and do it BB, I think he used different approaches to get it with different girls and even maybe seeing a girl once or twice getting a feel for her and then trying it on.

Some he obviously intimidated and some he might have gave up on depending the outcome of the response and maybe the ones that were desperate for cash or a review etc as needed money.

He obviously took advantage of a lot of girls over his years of punting and got more confident as his status of reviews grew on here.

coolguy1990

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Bareback and she declined !
But if that's the case, what I said earlier about it not being a fake review, so much as a good review still stands.

And my point about it not being forced in this case, at least, stands.

greychap

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But if that's the case, what I said earlier about it not being a fake review, so much as a good review still stands.

And my point about it not being forced in this case, at least, stands.

Its a form of grooming but with over 18's in a way what he done with some and he loved booking new girls that had no experience of the industry.

Offline Tiger63

Iam wondering what is going to come from all this.
Dees rep is in tatters.
Allure havent come out of this well.
And he is probably logged into both sites pissing himself laughing.

Whats to stop him coming on here or UKE and starting to name WGs he`s BBd

vw

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Whats to stop him coming on here or UKE and starting to name WGs he`s BBd
Admin is quite shit hot and loads of guys nip lots of nonsense in the bud reporting stuff, if you think something is suspect report to Admin or call them out or both.

Offline Tiger63

im very health conscious as you will know, and i now need another trip to the clinic due to all this shit, but in truth i would have had to go again any way.

my situation and with whats happened has made me give up my hobby for a long time if not forever, its a world of mistrust i'm not wanting to be part of for a long time. i cant go on with the worry, i cant trust anyone at the minute  :(
Mate I think you need to calm down and take a step back :thumbsup:

greychap

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Iam wondering what is going to come from all this.
Dees rep is in tatters.
Allure havent come out of this well.
And he is probably logged into both sites pissing himself laughing.

Whats to stop him coming on here or UKE and starting to name WGs he`s BBd

Whos knows what will happen mate he could try a new alias on here.

But one thing I doubt that he will give up punting!

Offline FLYING BLUE

This will be my only post in this section because I don't want to start a whole new debate.


TheMademan2 was named to me, (I guess as much as 1 year ago), by 3 different girls, on 3 different occasions - 3 girls who I had seen several times and who I felt I knew reasonably well & trusted their opinions.

I was not asked by any of these girls to report his behaviour but, I felt it prudent to inform Admin on this site. However, we both came to the same conclusion that nothing could be done because there was no actual proof and therefore it would be his word against the word of the girls in question. I have read his increasingly arrogant posts ever since in the hope that he would eventually become exposed.
I have never discussed my suspicions of him with anyone else on here, not even privately.

This saga will answer the question as to why I have never responded to certain 'war & peace / rant like' threads recently.
FB
« Last Edit: December 08, 2015, 09:31:49 pm by FLYING BLUE »

Offline sesalovdarlo

Mate I think you need to calm down and take a step back :thumbsup:

Exactly let's assume you saw a girl he barebacked. What makes you think your at risk. Your at same risk regardless.

coolguy1990

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It does not mean he forced all girls to try and do it BB, I think he used different approaches to get it with different girls and even maybe seeing a girl once or twice getting a feel for her and then trying it on.

Some he obviously intimidated and some he might have gave up on depending the outcome of the response and maybe the ones that were desperate for cash or a review etc as needed money.

He obviously took advantage of a lot of girls over his years of punting and got more confident as his status of reviews grew on here.
Yes, but the point is, some were saying that the accusations about force must be true, because as many as ten girls claimed it, but if you read through the thread, it only appears that one or two have claimed force. One of which was given a really bad review by him which by all accounts had harmed her business.

I don't particularly want to stand up for the guy as his review of Mia was a disgrace and appeared to show an almost sinister amount of self-entitlement. I mean, complaining he didn't get deepthroat and wanting to ruin her over a £50 session?

greychap

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Its ok, its only a name, he offered to make me very busy in newcastle as he was a top reviewer in the ne ukpunting as he can do that.

Gave me a roleplay scenario he wanted, this was all on the phone. To tie me up and dom me but he wanted the sex raw, which i said nooooooo and even said to him how unfair men call girls who offer this as dirty but you are asking me, he said i dont ask everyone, just you dont do it and its a challenge, plus its my fantasy .

No review was made for me.

He would take me out, show me round newcastle

Ive said this over and over again but never met him

Lucky for you that you never met him.

The tieing up is what he likes to do so they cannot stop him I suppose...awful

greychap

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This will be my only post in this section because I don't want to start a whole new debate.


TheMademan2 was named to me, (I guess as much as 1 year ago), by 3 different girls, on 3 different occasions - 3 girls who I had seen several times and who I felt I knew reasonably well & trusted their opinions.

I was not asked by any of these girls to report his behaviour but, I felt it prudent to inform Admin on this site. However, we both came to the same conclusion that nothing could be done because there was no actual proof and therefore it would be his word against the word of the girls in question. I have read his increasingly arrogant posts ever since in the hope that he would eventually become exposed.
I have never discussed my suspicions of him with anyone else on here, not even privately.

This saga will answer the question as to why I have never responded to certain 'war & peace / rant like' threads recently.
FB

Well done FB for reporting this it might have not come out or for a while anyway without you starting the ball rolling :thumbsup:

Offline alenski

Iam wondering what is going to come from all this.
Dees rep is in tatters.
Allure havent come out of this well.
And he is probably logged into both sites pissing himself laughing.

Whats to stop him coming on here or UKE and starting to name WGs he`s BBd
who could believe a word he said this guy is a stranger to the truth and as such has zero credibility.

greychap

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Yes, but the point is, some were saying that the accusations about force must be true, because as many as ten girls claimed it, but if you read through the thread, it only appears that one or two have claimed force. One of which was given a really bad review by him which by all accounts had harmed her business.

I don't particularly want to stand up for the guy as his review of Mia was a disgrace and appeared to show an almost sinister amount of self-entitlement. I mean, complaining he didn't get deepthroat and wanting to ruin her over a £50 session?

I get your points but wether forced or manipulated he still has proven to be a nasty piece of work and used his status on here to get what he wants or face the back lash with a bad review.

I thought at one stage he was alright but little things towards the end started to turn me off and the boast about " you just been fucked over by the mademan" says quite a lot of how he looked at himself and the control he had on here :thumbsdown:

Scarlett Cavalli

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Lucky for you that you never met him.

The tieing up is what he likes to do so they cannot stop him I suppose...awful
I would guess that any girl who ties herself up for a punter isn't interested in pushing the limits of self-bondage and will be able to untie herself if she wants. At least I hope so :scare:
Is there any allegations of him using physical force against an escort?

Offline Tiger63

I`d bet there would still be some who would believe him though

Offline Kev3773

Yes, but the point is, some were saying that the accusations about force must be true, because as many as ten girls claimed it, but if you read through the thread, it only appears that one or two have claimed force. One of which was given a really bad review by him which by all accounts had harmed her business.

I don't particularly want to stand up for the guy as his review of Mia was a disgrace and appeared to show an almost sinister amount of self-entitlement. I mean, complaining he didn't get deepthroat and wanting to ruin her over a £50 session?

That comes across as maybe sticking up for him a little  :unknown:

greychap

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I would guess that any girl who ties herself up for a punter isn't interested in pushing the limits of self-bondage and will be able to untie herself if she wants. At least I hope so :scare:
Is there any allegations of him using physical force against an escort?

Not sure about physical force as such but rough in some bookings I think.

Sometimes I think other people had tied the girl up just before he arrived and left her there for him but apart from that would not know how easy they could get out of it....but its stupid for any girl to leave the hotel or there home door open for him to enter and never met him before....so I don't judge them as smart but stupid :rolleyes:

Rod trotter

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Mate I think you need to calm down and take a step back :thumbsup:

too much slight of hand though going on, its a minefield in truth.

maybe i need a lay off  :thumbsup:

vw

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Not sure about physical force as such but rough in some bookings I think.

Sometimes I think other people had tied the girl up just before he arrived and left her there for him but apart from that would not know how easy they could get out of it....but its stupid for any girl to leave the hotel or there home door open for him to enter and never met him before....so I don't judge them as smart but stupid :rolleyes:
that sounds dodgy, most S&M stuff is done with trust and a pre existing professional relationship, so no safewords, hope it wasn't the agencies doing this tieing up and leaving, a girls for a bit of rough !

yorkshire123

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Simpleton here again....

Are we saying that themademan2 & joecampos09 (fundude09) are one & the same?

Sorry  :(

Rod trotter

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Exactly let's assume you saw a girl he barebacked. What makes you think your at risk. Your at same risk regardless.

the sti risk is a big part of it, but also the downright dishonesty of people, the snidy dangerous nature of it all worries me to much mate 

OldAdmin

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Simpleton here again....

Are we saying that themademan2 & joecampos09 (fundude09) are one & the same?

Sorry  :(

I've not seen anything to say that is the case.

yorkshire123

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I've not seen anything to say that is the case.

Thanks, I will try & keep up  :hi:

greychap

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that sounds dodgy, most S&M stuff is done with trust and a pre existing professional relationship, so no safewords, hope it wasn't the agencies doing this tieing up and leaving, a girls for a bit of rough !

God knows who knows anything anymore, hope not though :unknown: :crazy:

He seemed to act as a taxi driver in some cases and collecting people from photo shoots. :dash:

vw

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Thanks, I will try & keep up  :hi:
If you want to hire forum mobility reader click the link

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 :D :D

greychap

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the sti risk is a big part of it, but also the downright dishonesty of people, the snidy dangerous nature of it all worries me to much mate

Its fair enough how you feel, nobody is the same and not all punters feel the same. Just do what you need to do.

Offline Eurypides

However such a wrong-un wouldn't be able to resist the getting close to prossie's nature of UKE

Any perceived UKP bashing is stamped down hard on UKE (fair enough) but apparently this (admittedly quite sly and underhand) criticism of UKE is apparently tolerated.

The fact is MM2 was an operator on here and was absolutely profilifc.  That isn't a criticism of UKP, it's just a fact.  There is no definite evidence to say he was ever on UKE so this is a fairly bizarre comment.

Personally, even if it was the case MM2 never blackmailed girls into BB I am glad he was banned because it has helped with the credibility of UKP reviews for the NE which had begun to be undermined.  There will always be dubious reviews but he was so active a reviewer the section was always packed with them.  Many rumours circulated that MM2 had paid no commission or received freebies from certain agencies in return for positives, and while I must stress that these rumours remain unsubstaniated they were to my mind damaging.  They were too persistant to ignore.  The fact that he was (finally) exposed as a barebacker only increased those doubts in my mind about his credibility in other respects.

He had to go, although him being banned from a forum is not a punishment or revenge. If he really blackmailed people that's no real punishement - it's only a forum after all.  If he didn't do it then the forum is still a better place for being rid of a hypocrite who flooded the site with shit reviews of questionable veracity, full of try-hard fake machismo and bigging himself up.  In short, the reviews were never about the girls, they were always about him.

I don't post here that much but think well written review by credible posters here are valuable.  So hopefully we can move on from this and see some good reviews being posted.

vw

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Any perceived UKP bashing is stamped down hard on UKE (fair enough) but apparently this (admittedly quite sly and underhand) criticism of UKE is apparently tolerated.

Cut down on the weed mate, you sound a bit paranoid how was that bashing, he was highlighting he could be there ?

OldAdmin

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Cut down on the weed mate, you sound a bit paranoid how was that bashing, he was highlighting he could be there ?

The hundreds of posts on UKE slagging off this site (not veiled in the slightest) must be invisible.

yorkshire123

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Any perceived UKP bashing is stamped down hard on UKE (fair enough) but apparently this (admittedly quite sly and underhand) criticism of UKE is apparently tolerated.

Are you pissed or just playing the cunt, I'm a contributing member of UKE so why would I criticise it?

I have no intention of explaining what I meant to you but I'm sure others didn't see it aa derogatory as nothing could have been further from the truth.

Offline foreverchanges



Personally, even if it was the case MM2 never blackmailed girls into BB I am glad he was banned because it has helped with the credibility of UKP reviews for the NE which had begun to be undermined.  There will always be dubious reviews but he was so active a reviewer the section was always packed with them.  Many rumours circulated that MM2 had paid no commission or received freebies from certain agencies in return for positives, and while I must stress that these rumours remain unsubstaniated they were to my mind damaging.  They were too persistant to ignore.  The fact that he was (finally) exposed as a barebacker only increased those doubts in my mind about his credibility in other respects.

He had to go, although him being banned from a forum is not a punishment or revenge. If he really blackmailed people that's no real punishement - it's only a forum after all.  If he didn't do it then the forum is still a better place for being rid of a hypocrite who flooded the site with shit reviews of questionable veracity, full of try-hard fake machismo and bigging himself up.  In short, the reviews were never about the girls, they were always about him.



Spot on. :thumbsup:....although he'll be a miss with his fan club.

vw

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The hundreds of posts on UKE slagging off this site (not veiled in the slightest) must be invisible.
Certainly Is and most certainly are not veiled !

Offline toon972

It all adds up now why he went for new and young girls.His way of Punting as he explained a few times.

Offline flash1965

themademan2 down.
joecampos09 aka fundude09 down.

But this one still needs identifying:

This is his AdultWork feedback:
External Link/Members Only

Hi, didn’t really want to get involved in this, but I think know who the lady mentioned in the reviews is, She is extremely popular in the North East and wouldn’t entertain any unsafe acts and definitely wouldn’t offer a reduced rate for a positive review doesn’t need too, as she has an established regular client base. I have texted her to make her aware of the allegation’s and have said I will post her response if necessary as I know she doesn’t like publicity.



Offline Kev3773


coolguy1990

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That comes across as maybe sticking up for him a little  :unknown:
I'm more interested in the truth than sticking up for somebody.

He might have been an arrogant twat, who abused his perceived status as a way of getting freebies, but accusations of force and coercion are very serious indeed.

In fact, you'd do better to actually take issue with one of the relevant points I raised, rather than trying to score  cheap points, if you are as interested in getting to the truth and as little in taking sides as I am.

vw

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In fact, you'd do better to actually take issue with one of the relevant points I raised, rather than trying to score  cheap points, if you are as interested in getting to the truth and as little in taking sides as I am.
Sorry but what ?

Your trying to be a smart Alec with your pointless points.  you can't even get names correct ! :dash:

Offline johnny34

I'm more interested in the truth than sticking up for somebody.

He might have been an arrogant twat, who abused his perceived status as a way of getting freebies, but accusations of force and coercion are very serious indeed.

In fact, you'd do better to actually take issue with one of the relevant points I raised, rather than trying to score  cheap points, if you are as interested in getting to the truth and as little in taking sides as I am.

The truth is he was a untrustworthy hypocritical twat.

Offline Kev3773

The truth is he was a untrustworthy hypocritical twat.

I think everyone bar his fanclub agree with that. :thumbsup:

Looking4fun

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Admin please lock  this thread were doing exactly what he would want us to do talk about him,
He's been found out & their is proof he's a lying hypocrite, let's all move on & enjoy our hobbie instead of arguing amongst each other

Georgesamy

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I read the long thread on the issue of mademan2 recently. Some wise and some not so wise comments. Virtual waster made a comment to which has no relevance whatsoever to the issue. The fact that mademan2 is a Pakistani with a Geordie accent. At the same time a whole load of hypocrites wrote regarding support for banning mademan2 to maintain the credibility of UKP. What about racism? Does that not apply to this site? We even have a no trolling/advertising principle. Why had admin not banned virtual waster for his uneccesary, irrelevant racist comment? Or, is it because we are in the rural North East that racism is accepted here? Where is the concern for the credibility of this site now? Does this mean if a white British did what mademan2 was supposed to have done, the multitude that criticised him what have thought it acceptable? The utter shame of it all!