joecampos09 & themademan2

[Looking4fun]

That's funny
Juney@ allure even thinks mm2 is a "total cunt "her words not mine

[DaveyJJ]

I knew the guy had problems when I read about his 4-5 punts a week, and disgusting things in his reviews.

[Barry Shipton]

What a bloody mess - once again NE punting scene looks like a sick soap opera. Who knows what to believe - think there's a lot more to come out.

But as Alfie says one things for sure MM2 was an arrogant git quick to make accusations about girls offering BB to dis their reputations. Don't know if he's a liar but he's certainly a bloody hypocrite!

Some of us are just in this for a bit of safe, light hearted fun. But some always have to ruin it - and that auto-censored linked to on UKE makes my stomach heave - bloody sickos.

[Jimmy Cagney]

In the words of Duncan Bannatyne ....."I'm out".

Too risky out there, massage only for me.

[vw]

But as Alfie says one things for sure MM2 was an arrogant git quick to make accusations about girls offering BB to dis their reputations. Don't know if he's a liar but he's certainly a bloody hypocrite!

Some of us are just in this for a bit of safe, light hearted fun. But some always have to ruin it - and that auto-censored linked to on UKE makes my stomach heave - bloody sickos.

Vile people, wonder how many members have licked his jizz out of a pussy, R/O is quite popular on this forum.

[Kev3773]

Mm2's followers/groupies are quiet 

[squeezebox]

Lying pimps, lying barebackers, lying prossies, what the fuck do you believe.

I believe MM2 is trying to use some form of reverse psychology. 

An example of this is by only posting his replies on UKP and avoid answering/responding to UKE, as UKP may offer some form of safe haven. Be assured though, that if Admin gets any sort of evidence of a WG being blackmailed/forced into BB or any other act...   

[vw]

I believe MM2 is trying to use some form of reverse psychology. 

An example of this is by only posting his replies on UKP and avoid answering/responding to UKE, as UKP may offer some form of safe haven. Be assured though, that if Admin gets any sort of evidence of a WG being blackmailed/forced into BB or any other act...   

But he missed the reply about that girl not from the agency and not from the NE circus SkyeDupree

But I don't work for any agency in Newcastle, I was only touring for the week and I was approached asking for bb and fake review on ukp, I've never met him just only spoken, I have no reason to lie, what's my gain!! I don't even live in newcastle

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Your right though it is safe here, but probably wise for him not to go to the dark side !

[cueball]

Just had a read of this lot, fuckin hell, some shameful shite on both sides of the bed here.

What baffles me is that any deluded punter can think he's got leverage cos he writes reviews on a podging site and any dumb lass that thinks it's better to let him have his way.

That's now royally backfired on the pair of em.

What a giant shit sandwich which I'll gladly not take a bite of.

I've said it before, shady fuckin circles

[Looking4fun]

Mm2's followers/groupies are quiet 

+1

[vw]

Just had a read of this lot, fuckin hell, some shameful shite on both sides of the bed here.

What baffles me is that any deluded punter can think he's got leverage cos he writes reviews on a podging site and any dumb lass that thinks it's better to let him have his way.

That's now royally backfired on the pair of em.

What a giant shit sandwich which I'll gladly not take a bite of.

I've said it before, shady fuckin circles

Imagine he has his sales patter script down to an art with every get out covered.

[greychap]

Mm2's followers/groupies are quiet 

Who do you mean?

[cockneybstrd]

this does all come across as some kind of tawdry mess from the outside looking in...

the north east scene from  reading on ukpunting for a considerable amount of time does seem to be dominated by two agencies and that of course will lead to major issues.

its like two drug dealers fighting over turf and profit and it does seem at times that overflows into incidents.

Barebacking goes on more than most of would like to admit. All we can do as punters is take the necessary precautions that we each see fit.

[bronson24]

ive seen missy dee 2 times now and no hint or suggestion of bareback has been suggested from her. so i can only go off what she has been like with me.


i can see why a lot of people are kicking off about all this as it puts people at risk from sti's, but im afraid the harsh reality is that mostly all wgs and punters will bareback somewhere in there lives whether it be with there personal partners a one night stand or there favourite client and im afraid that goes with hobby and job we have chosen.

 in no way am i condoning bareback but it is a case of burying ones head in the sand if no one thinks it doesn't or shouldn't happen.

[bronson24]

this does all come across as some kind of tawdry mess from the outside looking in...

the north east scene from  reading on ukpunting for a considerable amount of time does seem to be dominated by two agencies and that of course will lead to major issues.

its like two drug dealers fighting over turf and profit and it does seem at times that overflows into incidents.

Barebacking goes on more than most of would like to admit. All we can do as punters is take the necessary precautions that we each see fit.

exactly and that will be everywhere not just the north east

[greychap]

ive seen missy dee 2 times now and no hint or suggestion of bareback has been suggested from her. so i can only go off what shje has been like with me


i can see why a lot of people are kicking off about all this as it puts people at risk from sti's, but im afraid the harsh reality is that mostly all wgs and punters will bareback somewhere in there lives whether it be with there personal partners a one night stand or there favourite client and im afraid that goes with hobby and job we have chosen.

 in no way am i condoning bareback but it is a case of burying ones head in the sand if no one thinks it doesn't or shouldn't happen.

Think its more of a shock that he slagged off others for it or offering it but then he been doing it lots, that is the main problem, but I bet more punters do it with WG's then willing to say.

Well you can only post as you find and obviously she did not try to do it with you as you seen her twice.

[bronson24]

Think its more of a shock that he slagged off others for it or offering it but then he been doing it lots, that is the main problem, but I bet more punters do it with WG's then willing to say.

Well you can only post as you find and obviously she did not try to do it with you as you seen her twice.

yea thats true grey,

but as a lot of guys have said on this forum before  punting isnt for the squeamish as we all should know. But i bet lots of things will happen behind closed doors that we will never know about.

All we can hope is that people get regularly tested.

[cueball]

It's not the bb that's offensive, it's the hypocrisy that's offensive

[Looking4fun]

Just noticed her last review On AW was of a guy who seen a bare back lass and gave a positive review. Stupid cow Mysterious Mia, accusing me of wanting bare back but happy to see a guy who sees bare back lasses openly. Wouldn't be suprised if she bare backed him for a bit extra as her phones probably getting a bit dusty at moment.

Hope your reading this Mysterious Mia 
This is from his negative review of Mia
FUCKING HYPOCRITICAL OR WHAT

[Kev3773]

Who do you mean?

 
Regular users on here will know, they always defend him to the hilt. They won't slag him off now but will keep off this topic till it blows over even though they normally have a view on everything. As for mm2's defence that he has broken no rules as he didn't FORCE anyone into BB.It was never claimed force was used. Most were saying he used his power and influence on here to manipulate them 

[vw]

It's not the bb that's offensive, it's the hypocrisy that's offensive

Makes it safer for him by putting everyone else off the bug chase, its all self serving.

[themademan2]

It's not the bb that's offensive, it's the hypocrisy that's offensive

Hands put up, but I'm sure many of you are going home to tell your wife, girlfriend or partner who you just punted with We all guilty. Full stop. My last post on this thread.

[vw]

Hands put up, but I'm sure many of you are going home to tell your wife, girlfriend or partner who you just punted with We all guilty. Full stop. My last post on this thread.

Good hopefully last ever !

[greychap]

 
Regular users on here will know, they always defend him to the hilt. They won't slag him off now but will keep off this topic till it blows over even though they normally have a view on everything. As for mm2's defence that he has broken no rules as he didn't FORCE anyone into BB.It was never claimed force was used. Most were saying he used his power and influence on here to manipulate them 

I hope you don't mean me because I have always been very against BB especially if you have a wife and I don't agree with all this that has gone on.

[AnthG]

Hands put up, but I'm sure many of you are going home to tell your wife, girlfriend or partner who you just punted with We all guilty. Full stop. My last post on this thread.

No I think you need to say exactly who you have done bareback with. This is a punting forum, you have stayed away from UKescorting and stayed here to post on this. And thus for the benefit of other punters you need to name and shame every WG you have done bareback with so others can make an informed decision on booking them or not.

[foreverchanges]

Good hopefully last ever !

Chance would be a fuckin fine thing.

[vw]

No I think you need to say exactly who you have done bareback with. This is a punting forum, you have stayed away from UKescorting and stayed here to post on this. And thus for the benefit of other punters you need to name and shame every WG you have done bareback with so others can make an informed decision on booking them or not.

Don't hold your breath or even expect anything, he owes us nothing and wouldn't pay if he did, would probably make it up to, just assume they all have and play safe.

[bronson24]

No I think you need to say exactly who you have done bareback with. This is a punting forum, you have stayed away from UKescorting and stayed here to post on this. And thus for the benefit of other punters you need to name and shame every WG you have done bareback with so others can make an informed decision on booking them or not.

the thing is anth. and i am not sticking up for mm2 or anyone else on here and only giving my own opinion

But i can imagine every wg in the north east or anywhere else will have had bareback somewhere along the line in the last year from the most highly rated girls in the north east to the not so popular ones.

they aint openly gona admit it but its a fact of life

[OldAdmin]

Locking this thread until I get home and message some regarding their exact experiences, because some have sent me messages admitting they don't know for certain it's mademan2 who is sent them those fake review messages on AdultWork. Only after I've done proper checking then can I make a decision.

[OldAdmin]

I'm back home and with proper internet access now.

I haven't messaged anyone yet regarding blackmail accusations, however I've made up my mind.

My gut instinct tells me to get rid of him, given things like his hypocrisy regarding bareback, I do not feel comfortable with themademan2 on my site and do not trust his posts anymore.

Regarding that account joecampos09 on AdultWork, I'm still not certain is him. Big coincidence that he says he is Asian, but that is all so far.

There is actually another AdultWork account, called nufcdude, this one isn't demanding bareback, instead it's regular positive UKP reviews in return for discounted rate. This account actually has AdultWork feedback.

[vw]

I'm back home and with proper internet access now.

I haven't messaged anyone yet regarding blackmail accusations, however I've made up my mind.

My gut instinct tells me to get rid of him, given things like his hypocrisy regarding bareback, I do not feel comfortable with themademan2 on my site and do not trust his posts anymore.

Regarding that account joecampos09 on AdultWork, I'm still not certain is him. Big coincidence that he says he is Asian, but that is all so far.

There is actually another AdultWork account, called nufcdude, this one isn't demanding bareback, instead it's regular positive UKP reviews in return for discounted rate. This account actually has AdultWork feedback.

Who had this guy reviewed or was it hidden, would be nice to find out people using the good name of UKP for personal gain !

Good call with MM2 

[Looking4fun]

Well that's his decision,I was hoping we could find out the names of the girls so we know who to avoid

[martial]

Well that's his decision,I was hoping we could find out the names of the girls so we know who to avoid

Check out MM2's reviews then, they are still on UKP.

[Kev3773]

Check out MM2's reviews then, they are still on UKP.

They won't all have done bb so unless you're not going to see anyone he's visited it doesn't really help. 

[vw]

They won't all have done bb so unless you're not going to see anyone he's visited it doesn't really help. 

Your right there Alfie, you cannot blacken all the girls he gave a positive review to, you need to make your own minds on personal risk to yourself maybe stop the OWO or DFK.  Up to you as a punter as you can never be certain and there are more bug chasers out there and he probably wont stop punting because he is banned here !   

[Kev3773]

As for mm number 2 being banned glad to see it, he's helped get so many banned from here when you didn't agree with his views. In his words another one bites the dust  Am sure you're reading this you little fat scruff

[Mansell]

Thanks Admin.

They won't all have done bb so unless you're not going to see anyone he's visited it doesn't really help. 

Most of the well established girls are getting regular checks, ie monthly or more, so it really should not be an issue once we are in January ? Although I do agree with Alfie that no way will it have been all of them.

[johnny34]

Good decision Admin, don't want or need someone like that on ukp.

[Looking4fun]

Your right there Alfie, you cannot blacken all the girls he gave a positive review to, you need to make your own minds on personal risk to yourself maybe stop the OWO or DFK.  Up to you as a punter as you can never be certain and there are more bug chasers out there and he probably wont stop punting because he is banned here !

+1

[greychap]

Glad to see him banned too.

He was a good support for me when I had some trouble but more then likely just because he was not on good terms with them.

He was the top reviewer in the North East and he abused this for his own gain.

Feel sorry for any girl that was intimidated by him and gave him bareback, no wonder he kept doing it cos it worked he got what he wanted from girls.

We shared some pms but towards the end a few things did not add up and I even mentioned it to him about how he knows no girl ever knows who he is and never mentions in bookings who he is and I said that don't seem right as not what I heard but he said your wrong and whoever told you is not telling the truth.

Also about getting girls to agree to be tied up and gagged when he visited them with there doors left open but they not seen him before I said cant believe girls would do that with a stranger so would not be surprised if they did it because of who he was a negative reviews

Terrible to abuse woman in this way and what a terrible husband barebacking anyone he can and going home shagging the wife....nasty as hell and no respect for her catching hiv or anything and small kids as well

[greychap]

Well that's his decision,I was hoping we could find out the names of the girls so we know who to avoid

Even if we did he has already lied about stuff so how would we know for sure.

I doubt every girl he seen or reviewed have all done bareback but no doubt over the years there will be quite a few, plus hes friendly with some girls that he don't review that he told me he sees for free as well and some are popular girls that he don't review....now that makes me wonder why he don't review those.

I think anywhere between 3 or 5 girls that he don't mention on here that he said he gets for free or big discounts, and why would they do that unless......

[greychap]

Your right there Alfie, you cannot blacken all the girls he gave a positive review to, you need to make your own minds on personal risk to yourself maybe stop the OWO or DFK.  Up to you as a punter as you can never be certain and there are more bug chasers out there and he probably wont stop punting because he is banned here !

And also what about what he said about other's on here swapping pms with him over bareback girls but he were not going to out them on here?

[Kev3773]

And also what about what he said about other's on here swapping pms with him over bareback girls but he were not going to out them on here?

They are conspicuous by there absence ( bricking it ) Though they might come out of the woodwork now he is banned. There pm's will still be on record though.

[vw]

They are conspicuous by there absence ( bricking it ) Though they might come out of the woodwork now he is banned. There pm's will still be on record though.

i think when people are banned the PMs disappear from the banned member, happened with another banned member and me. Maybe admin can clarify.

[OldAdmin]

i think when people are banned the PMs disappear from the banned member, happened with another banned member and me. Maybe admin can clarify.

I think I disabled that a few weeks ago when I also dropped the 6 month limit on PMs. They stay indefinitely now like posts.

[greychap]

They are conspicuous by there absence ( bricking it ) Though they might come out of the woodwork now he is banned. There pm's will still be on record though.

Yes no doubt some are bricking it and maybe some girls too as don't want it outed there secret barebackers.

He never branched that subject with me because he new I was very vanilla and safety conscious etc but it just shows how nasty people can be towards girls especially if they wont play ball with him and bow down.

The worst thing is not just the barebacking but the way he slagged off others and tried to ruin girls over it when obviously it was him trying to get it and not even like he was found out BB 1 regular girl and only seeing her it seems he did it with loads so even worse.

Thank goodness UKE started up otherwise this might never have come out and more girls backing it up over there.

[BrunetteBarbieBrooke]

Ofcourse its disgusting what hes been doing, but at the end of the day there is still a difference between doing BB for more money/reviews and threatening/blackmailing to get it, its already been proven that one girl lied about being blackmailed so how can you say for sure that others havent lied as well?

I dont want to take sides but if in private a punter offered a girl double the fee for bb how  many of them would really turn it down? The only one you can truly trust in this industry is yourself.

Any good working girl who actually cares about her health wouldn't even think about BB let alone do it for more money. Not only the WGs health but other girls too. I am livid that there's girls out there that think this is okay.

[greychap]

Any good working girl who actually cares about her health wouldn't even think about BB let alone do it for more money. Not only the WGs health but other girls too. I am livid that there's girls out there that think this is okay.

Brooke I know what you are saying and fully agree but times have very much changed!!! years ago probably before you was in the industry girls were looked down on if they offered CIM and lots of working girls thought that was disgusting to offer that as you can still catch STI's from that and some agencies and parlours would fire you if found doing it and clinics who knew you was a sex worker would encourage oral sex with a condom plus even give out dental guard sheets for any punter wanting to go down on girl.

When a lot of the thai woman and EE's came over here years ago load started doing OWO and CIM and soon a lot of English girls started doing it and now a lot do it as the industry has moved on. Obviously BB is more serious then OWO but still risks and its a choice we all make.

[James999]

Any good working girl who actually cares about her health wouldn't even think about BB let alone do it for more money.

Are you saying it's only the Fat the old & the Munters that offer it then?

[Looking4fun]

Any good working girl who actually cares about her health wouldn't even think about BB let alone do it for more money. Not only the WGs health but other girls too. I am livid that there's girls out there that think this is okay.

Yes I have to agree it doesn't just effect us it effects all the ladies