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Offline GlasgowGirl

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I know you have previously said you don't want to reveal even generally what you do for a living. But could I ask how long (round abouts) you worked as a volunteer in the sector you are in before someone took you as experienced enough in it to get into it as paid work. As that is a good success story on your behalf. Not just for escorts put for everyone in general.

To clarify I am seriously asking and seriously curious as the written form sometimes does not show sincerity or sarcasm well.

I volunteered unpaid for 9 months and harassed the manager until she finally employed me! Although I didn't need an interview, which saved a lot of interview stress  :D



Offline GlasgowGirl

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Yep, and some of them make up crap stories as well  :hi:

Is there a 'hide poster' button anywhere so I don't have to read through countless sparring posts like this? (genuinely  :P).

I ignored your two other pointless goading posts up thread, but it gets tiresome when you just won't give up  :scare:

Offline James999

just won't give up  :scare:

you spout bollocks that you can't back up, I point out you are spouting bollocks and you get upset, what next ? you going to threaten to leave again   :hi:

Offline GlasgowGirl

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you spout bollocks that you can't back up

Me?  :lol:

Unless you want me to contact Ms-Russian-Lawyer (who has no idea I even do this job  :scare:) and get her to post her credentials and story on UKP  :rolleyes: .....

or march into one of the African lady's shops and say "Remember me? I met you back in 2008/9 when you were opening your first shop, we were prossy-ing for the same agency, could you do me a favour and go on to a site called UKP cause James doesn't believe me?"

Didn't think so ....  :wacko:   

It was a serious question about a hide poster button.  :timeout

Offline AnthG

I point out you are spouting bollocks and you get upset

Yes but why? If what you believe GG is saying is not correct. She is not gaining or harming anyone from it. So why point it out. All that will happen is GG will get sick and stop coming here anymore. And how will that be a good thing?

I am going to say this now and then never again. I did not like how you, Matty and Smiths were treating Dreamgirl. And its not good how GG is being treat either.

There are vile escorts out there who deserve to be picked apart from their lies to show what they are like. But nobody on this planet would think GG is one of them.

Seriously no offence intended. But just let her be, please.

Offline James999

Unless you want me to contact Ms-Russian-Lawyer (who has no idea I even do this job  :scare:) and get her to post her credentials and story on

Hang on is this another one you've made up ?

As the Pro$$ie to lawyer story above you said she was in the US  :cool:

You see that's the problem with lies, you need a good memory to make them convincing  :hi:

Offline AnthG

It was a serious question about a hide poster button.  :timeout

Click on Profile > Buddies Ignore List > Click on Edit Ignore List (the edit Buddies will be orange, select edit ignore to turn that orange) > Type in the username of the person you want to ignore > Click the add button.

Offline GlasgowGirl

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Hang on is this another one you've made up ?

As the Pro$$ie to lawyer story above you said she was in the US  :cool:

You see that's the problem with lies, you need a good memory to make them convincing  :hi:

Are you slow of understanding? 

I also said before her mother was an immigrant (from Russia) when she was about 13 they moved to Scotland and she attended my school, therefore she is Russian. Now she lives in the US. It was common knowledge her mother was a prossie when we were at high school, they even had a pole in their living room and her mother "entertained" various "boyfriends" and worked for an "entertainment agency" nights. As far as I'm aware her mother is still here, but a retired prossie now (well I can't find anyone resembling her on AW in their region) People don't have to stay in the same place their whole lives you know, and you can make contact with people on that thing called the internet  :unknown:

Thanks Anth. (scrambles for 'block' / 'hide' button)  :D 

Offline smiths

That could also be said about the Bankers ----- however I agree that pro$$ies do earn ridiculous amounts of money when you consider they have zero qualifications, most would not last 5 minutes running a real business.

Neither would some bankers and some of them have cost our society hundreds of billions of pounds in incompetence. Give me a good WG over one of these banker wankers anytime.

Offline smiths

Yes but why? If what you believe GG is saying is not correct. She is not gaining or harming anyone from it. So why point it out. All that will happen is GG will get sick and stop coming here anymore. And how will that be a good thing?

I am going to say this now and then never again. I did not like how you, Matty and Smiths were treating Dreamgirl. And its not good how GG is being treat either.

There are vile escorts out there who deserve to be picked apart from their lies to show what they are like. But nobody on this planet would think GG is one of them.

Seriously no offence intended. But just let her be, please.

As  DG she has now been banned i will take that as her being TK unless i am told otherwise. I discussed TK and was she DG as others did and if she was what i thought of TK, a WG where the police had to be called to remove her from Enzios premises.

As DG has now been banned i assume it was TK, why ban her otherwise being my thinking, although thats admins business, i never complained to mods about DG myself though but as she was already banned as TK she was breaking the rules by re-joining as DG and what i posted was just and right in my view.

Praise the good and castigate the bad has always been my modus which i will be sticking to.
« Last Edit: July 08, 2012, 07:47:44 PM by smiths »

Offline smiths

Anth:  The ages crossed the whole spectrum from my personal starting point of mid/late 20s upwards to the 40s. I've found most through sites like PZ, PN, PL, and some from AW. I don't use parlours, and don't look for anything less than an hour, which will have skewed the figures.

When i punt i dont ask to see degrees and such like as its not relevant to my punting, i personally also dont want to see proof of a WGs real name as its an anonymous pastime to me.

Do you ask to see these qualifications, just discuss them or do WGs show you them Pabulum?

I literally couldnt care less myself what if any qualifications a WG has, good for her if she has some but its just got nothing to with them being a good WG or not. Having good social and people skills are what good WGs have in my experience which are important.
« Last Edit: July 08, 2012, 07:59:08 PM by smiths »

Offline GlasgowGirl

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For what it's worth, I thought that DG was actually TK, from the style of writing. But I don't really care either way.

I don't think TK is a bad person at all, just naive and a bit opinionated and mouthy (but that is to be expected at 19). The personal abuse she has had on here (and sometimes continues to get - if WAW was so "traumatised" by meeting her that he needed therapy then he wouldn't be starting a thread about her, would he?  :rolleyes:) is outrageous. She must be really naive to be still trying to prove herself to those on here who have hurled personal abuse at her over and over, and to speak to Matty on the phone for any length of time, and believe for a minute he really had her interests at heart (if the "limpdick" post is true). It's really boring actually that people are still going on about it months and months after she was banned. 

Offline smiths

For what it's worth, I thought that DG was actually TK, from the style of writing. But I don't really care either way.

I don't think TK is a bad person at all, just naive and a bit opinionated and mouthy (but that is to be expected at 19). The personal abuse she has had on here (and sometimes continues to get - if WAW was so "traumatised" by meeting her that he needed therapy then he wouldn't be starting a thread about her, would he?  :rolleyes:) is outrageous. She must be really naive to be still trying to prove herself to those on here who have hurled personal abuse at her over and over, and to speak to Matty on the phone for any length of time, and believe for a minute he really had her interests at heart (if the "limpdick" post is true). It's really boring actually that people are still going on about it months and months after she was banned.

But i do care because its deceiving posters, and she was banned for very good reasons in my view. Her age, she is an adult after all isnt an excuse to have to call the police to my mind, i have punted with many WGs of her age and NEVER yet had to do that fortunately.

Being discreet is a top priority for a WG in my opinion.


Offline AnthG

But i do care because its deceiving posters, and she was banned for very good reasons in my view. Her age, she is an adult after all isnt an excuse to have to call the police to my mind, i have punted with many WGs of her age and NEVER yet had to do that fortunately.

Being discreet is a top priority for a WG in my opinion.

But that is the thing. It is not established Dreamgirl was TK (I don't believe). And so by people constantly having a go at Dreamgirl about someone totally different it is tarring her with someone else's brush.

With regards to TK. I know this is neither here nor there. But to get the facts down. I believe what happened was it was TK who tried to phone the police because Enzio and IP were asking her to leave at 2am in London when she did not want to as she was afraid (if thats the right word) to go out at that time of night (In London who could blame her - and if she is an escort, she may have been wearing provocative type clothes, as escorts rarely come to bookings in a suite which would only exasperate those concerns IMHO). They phoned and booked the taxi for her when she did not want to leave she (TK) took that as a thing to phone the police for. But when they arrived they told TK that Enzio and IP were right and if they did not want her there she must go. TK did not like that suggestion and thus the police removed her from the property.

All that is bad. But not as bad as you are suggesting (from clearly misremembering, not suggesting for one moment intentionally) which is that TK was acting terribly and due to this Enzio needed to phone the police onto her. Which is infinitely worse than what actually happened.

Offline smiths

But that is the thing. It is not established Dreamgirl was TK (I don't believe). And so by people constantly having a go at Dreamgirl about someone totally different it is tarring her with someone else's brush.

With regards to TK. I know this is neither here nor there. But to get the facts down. I believe what happened was it was TK who tried to phone the police because Enzio and IP were asking her to leave at 2am in London when she did not want to as she was afraid (if thats the right word) to go out at that time of night (In London who could blame her - and if she is an escort, she may have been wearing provocative type clothes, as escorts rarely come to bookings in a suite which would only exasperate those concerns IMHO). They phoned and booked the taxi for her when she did not want to leave she (TK) took that as a thing to phone the police for. But when they arrived they told TK that Enzio and IP were right and if they did not want her there she must go. TK did not like that suggestion and thus the police removed her from the property.

All that is bad. But not as bad as you are suggesting (from clearly misremembering, not suggesting for one moment intentionally) which is that TK was acting terribly and due to this Enzio needed to phone the police onto her. Which is infinitely worse than what actually happened.

Unless i am told otherwise by admin who did the banning i will think it was TK.

Punting and the police dont mix, its fucking obvious, a punter doesnt want the police knowing his business. In Kettlegate the police were involved, i couldnt care less exactly how they were involved but they were, Enzio wasnt attacking her so she had to call the police for example, he was at the receiving end of her. That on its own is enough. Anyway hopefully thats the last i hear of TK.
« Last Edit: July 08, 2012, 08:31:53 PM by smiths »

Offline Jimmyredcab



Do you ask to see these qualifications, just discuss them or do WGs show you them Pabulum?
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Pabulum is a gentleman, he would never question the word of a "lady".    :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Offline pabulum

When i punt i dont ask to see degrees and such like as its not relevant to my punting, i personally also dont want to see proof of a WGs real name as its an anonymous pastime to me.

Do you ask to see these qualifications, just discuss them or do WGs show you them Pabulum?

I literally couldnt care less myself what if any qualifications a WG has, good for her if she has some but its just got nothing to with them being a good WG or not. Having good social and people skills are what good WGs have in my experience which are important.

No I don't ask, but things come up in conversation. And I think that your last paragraph is spot on.

Offline mh

A discount is all I am aiming for  ;)

I know it was probably tongue in cheek, but that would have been impossible given that she (if DG was a she) would not reveal her WG identity!

am i the only one who noticed that dreamgirl kept going on about how if she could prove what she was doing/who she was she would do so in a heartbeat - but weirdly refused to post her aw profile on here which would vindicate her

No, I noticed too, but she has been banned now and the assumption I agree with is that she was "TK" or a punter in disguise!

Offline smiths

No I don't ask, but things come up in conversation. And I think that your last paragraph is spot on.

Thanks for that. ;)

Offline AnthG

No I don't ask, but things come up in conversation.

It would actually kind of be interesting/curious how many of the sisterhood say they have a degree - I will bet every singe one of them.

The emphasis on "say"

Like I say, I have a feeling they will say this as they need a hook to get someone to book with them. :)

Offline adindas

Considering what other processionals are earning in this country, I will say £60/hr hour is a fair rate,

We could also take the visible alternative of the WGs are having. Due to low other skills, the visible alternative is stacking stuff s on the shelves, in supermarket with earning potential of one-tenth in comparison to escorting.
 

Offline Jimmyredcab

Considering what other processionals are earning in this country, I will say £60/hr hour is a fair rate,

We could also take the visible alternative of the WGs are having. Due to low other skills, the visible alternative is stacking stuff s on the shelves, in supermarket with earning potential of one-tenth in comparison to escorting.

Brilliant post, I pay my dentist roughly £150 an hour, he has studied for many years plus he has to pay tax on his earnings, most pro$$ies think that tax is only for other people.  :thumbsdown:

Offline James999

Brilliant post, I pay my dentist roughly £150 an hour, he has studied for many years plus he has to pay tax on his earnings,

And he will have to purchase equipment & supplies, as well as a surgery, and pay support staff, and Public liability insurance, and business rates etc, these are all expenses that a pro$$ie would not have  :hi:

Offline mh

Considering what other processionals are earning in this country, I will say £60/hr hour is a fair rate,

Well, yes, one dictionary usage for the term "professional" is someone who is paid to do what they do. That covers 95% of the working population with the rest being volunteers, unpaid interns etc. On that basis WGs are paid considerably more than the average hourly rate and I would say that is not "fair".

Another use of the term professional is a person who has a "profession", and while a WG is colloquially a member of the "oldest profession" that's clearly not what the term means. It is meant to be used for those who can only practise in their job having met professional standards set by some external audited body. Hence the years of training and professional body membership criteria. It most definitely does not mean someone whose prerequisite for working is putting an advert on a web site and starting work that day! By the definition here charging £60/hr or £80/hr is also not "fair" by comparison. However wrong it is for those "true" professions to be able to act as a closed shop and charge high rates, there's a reason for it - supply & demand.

Which brings me to the only reason for comparing these worlds at all... "Fair" just doesn't come into it when it's a market based transaction. WGs should not try to pretend they are in any way equivalent to dentists, doctors, lawyers when it comes to their basis for charging. The sole reason for being able to charge what they charge is decided by punters and that is based on supply and demand.

Offline Jimmyredcab

And he will have to purchase equipment & supplies, as well as a surgery, and pay support staff, and Public liability insurance, and business rates etc, these are all expenses that a pro$$ie would not have  :hi:

Most pro$$ies have minimal expenses, they even get their condoms for nothing at the clinic.  ;)


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