Surely time to put a lid on this, though respect to mash who said a few sensible things about dating generally. Tinder stands out as a no-no for many as you have to have a facebook account, even a fake one, and that sucks in my opinion, both having to have one and the hassle of setting it up and getting rid of it. It's also very public and known as a pick-up site, so no real privacy and you can't pass it off as just looking for friends as you might try with pof. I tried swinging for a while, both with civvie partners, an establshed fem swinger and solo and although i had numerous fucks mostly they were such fucking hard work (swinging is a lifestyle and works best when you treat it as such i think). I've had reasonable success in the past on pof, using the sort of intelligent points mash has sugeested and a few of my own i could give or have given on other threads but i didn't find the quality of women high. I don't mean looks department, just not very interesting. Same for speeddating. Also quite timewasting. Using the basics of originality, spontaneity, presenting a desirable profile, if you do all that then it's worth doing it in real life in my opinion and find civvie women while following your aspiration and dream in life rather than thinking it will work the other way round. While you are doing that, the need to empty your balls occasionally may be overpowering: punting offers a time-efficient way to do that at nominal cost, without disrupting your life and without lying to yourself or others.