Escort admits (sort of) on AdultWork she has HIV

[Cunning Punt]

Odd one this.

An escort (currently based in Oxon) admits she has a "blood virus" and is up front about that, but doesn't actually specifically say what is, though says she caught it from a client who had HIV. One has to assume it is that, even it is now a milder version of it following treatment.

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While at least she admits it (up to a point) and the possibility of contracting it may be slim, my personal opinion is that she shouldn't be continuing this line of work, but not sure what others think?

[jackthelad]

That's fucked up! She shouldn't be working full stop!

[vw]

Poor woman.

She make it clear buyer beware, no judgement from here !

[solentgeezer]

at least she is totally honest about it cant fault her for that, dont really think she should be working as an escort though if she does have hiv, no doubt some sick fuckers out there that probably would get off to screwing a woman they knew had it though! 

[ramrodronnie]

Poor woman.

She make it clear buyer beware, no judgement from here !

+1 virtualwaster

[ampersand]

Check the guys who have left her feedback and beware of the girls who have seen them.

[mslstoy]

As she is up front about this, perhaps she is hoping to cater for HIV positive punters, you can't catch it twice

[HappyandLucky]

As long as she makes it clear not only on her profile but then verbally with each client, then it's their own lives they are playing with. She must be desperate for the cash to work in this condition.

[vw]

As long as she makes it clear not only on her profile but then verbally with each client, then it's their own lives they are playing with. She must be desperate for the cash to work in this condition.

well you don't get a windfall or prize for getting HIV, most people would be desperate for cash after 2 years off. 

[CatBBW]

As she is up front about this, perhaps she is hoping to cater for HIV positive punters, you can't catch it twice

I think this must be it....also there are guys who are happy to take the risk, and there are guys who actively seek to catch it.

Good for her to be so up front and honest about it.

[jackthelad]

Really? She's getting praise for being upfront about it?

If it was one of us punting whilst having something we'd get flogged on the WG forum...!

[CatBBW]

Really? She's getting praise for being upfront about it?

If it was one of us punting whilst having something we'd get flogged on the WG forum...!

Would you rather she hid the fact? She is the one advertising, perhaps she will get more business by catering for HIV+ men/guys willing to risk it/guys wanting to catch it. If a punter didn't disclose his HIV status it makes no difference as he's not the one advertising and taking money for a service - and as long as he didn't choose or force bareback/OWO and pass his HIV on, there's nothing to be flogged about. And condoms combined with low viral loads with the correct treatment means she's pretty much as low risk as any other WG who uses protection.

I just think that she's done the right thing to be honest about it. Cos I bet that many more WGs are HIV+ and keep it very much to themselves.

[AnthG]

I really feel sorry for her from her description of how she caught it.

As mentioned in my main profile I was very unlucky in contracting a blood virus from a client who never disclosed the fact that he had HIV and then proceeded to request CIM. I always use protection and chances of catching it from me are extremely slim (it's easier to catch from a guy than a girl).

But really for me, this and the Charlie Sheen issue, all in the same time is really freaking me and putting me off doing this hobby.

[Dick4snowqueens]

I feel for her...I hope and wish her the best .. I think she's being fair disclosing her status.
Good on her. 

[Sonny Crockett]

I feel for her...I hope and wish her the best .. I think she's being fair disclosing her status.
Good on her.

+1

[greychap]

This is awful and it shows what risks these woman take in order to make money.

So many girls offer cim mainly because the punters want it not all because the girls really want to do it but the pressure that comes with this job.

Years ago most girls would never offer that because they were so scared of the risks and this example shows us an example of a poor woman that got infected and her life has changed forever.

Things like this is making me punt less now and to be honest I would rather see a girl that don't offer CIM as OWO you could possibly catch something but the girls offering the cim there is more chance.

This woman has been honest and I respect that even though I would not book her in a million years, how many more punters or girls are out there working right now with this and don't know or do know and are still working??

[greychap]

I really feel sorry for her from her description of how she caught it.

But really for me, this and the Charlie Sheen issue, all in the same time is really freaking me and putting me off doing this hobby.

Im feeling the same Anth and the popular girls that see loads of punters per day that offer all services the risks become a bit higher. I know of girls that have caught stuff in the past from punters not declaring things or some don't know.

Another thing that might need pointing out is some blokes that leak stringy pre cum out there knob sometimes this could be a infection obviously probably not in most cases but can be. I think some workers that offer owo but no cim could avoid punters if there knob is stringy and leaky I been told this before this is one of the reasons a girl might just use a condom for oral if she spots this.....and after this it bloody makes sense.

[Dick4snowqueens]

This is an eye opener - I hope other WGs see her profile or this post - offering CIM swallow OWO amount to a lot of risk out there.

I hope she gets something else doing other then this.

[Lewis]

Saw her a few years ago when she was called BBW-Elle, (was back in 2007 IIRC). Really nice girl back then, probably still is. I thought she gave up the job back then because she met a fella and fell in love with him.

Shame she's caught HIV. She doesn't deserve it. Well, no one does really, but when it's someone you knew in a roundabout sort of way, it makes it that bit more saddening.

[greychap]

This is an eye opener - I hope other WGs see her profile or this post - offering CIM swallow OWO amount to a lot of risk out there.

I hope she gets something else doing other then this.

I agree with you its scary as hell, I have heard of 2 girls over 12 years ago getting hiv and hep then as time goes on you forget about it and then something like this happens and the worries comes back.

[greychap]

Saw her a few years ago when she was called BBW-Elle, (was back in 2007 IIRC). Really nice girl back then, probably still is. I thought she gave up the job back then because she met a fella and fell in love with him.

Shame she's caught HIV. She doesn't deserve it. Well, no one does really, but when it's someone you knew in a roundabout sort of way, it makes it that bit more saddening.

Yes poor woman indeed, one booking and you end up with something like this. In all fairness though she should really stop working I know she has highlighted it but even so she should call it a day and try and live the rest of her life outside of this.

[greychap]

Does anyone think this should be posted on all regions so punters are aware and can read it?

Might be useful as so many think you cant catch much from CIM???

[claretandblue]

I feel sorry for the women in question but hang on a minute, according to the nhs the chances of getting hiv from oral sex are extremely low, but everyone is believing this women's story that she contracted the virus from cim!

[greychap]

I feel sorry for the women in question but hang on a minute, according to the nhs the chances of getting hiv from oral sex are extremely low, but everyone is believing this women's story that she contracted the virus from cim!

Don't forget that a lot of people that catch it they don't always know if its been caught through cim or sex as a lot of people do both, yeh we don't know the woman your right but surely she must have good reason to know it was from that as it seems like she knows who has given it to her, but then nobody knows for sure.

Im certainly going to take note of this though as I cannot lie it has made me think again

[claretandblue]

Don't forget that a lot of people that catch it they don't always know if its been caught through cim or sex as a lot of people do both, yeh we don't know the woman your right but surely she must have good reason to know it was from that as it seems like she knows who has given it to her, but then nobody knows for sure.

Im certainly going to take note of this though as I cannot lie it has made me think again

I get where you are coming from but you could argue that her version of events makes her sound unlucky and attracts sympathy, if however she had contracted it through barebacking then the reaction would be very different

I rise there is some risk from owo and cim but I think you have to put more faith in the medical profession than this women

[greychap]

I get where you are coming from but you could argue that her version of events makes her sound unlucky and attracts sympathy, if however she had contracted it through barebacking then the reaction would be very different

I rise there is some risk from owo and cim but I think you have to put more faith in the medical profession than this women

Yes I get that but will keep an open mind on it regarding this woman. Still bloody sad but we all know it could happen.

[Dick4snowqueens]

What saddens me - is her feedback... Tht other guy must have backed out at the last min and left the feedback -"sorry "

Sad!

[greychap]

What saddens me - is her feedback... Tht other guy must have back out at the last min and left the feedback -"sorry "

Sad!

Or was it the culprit that gave her it saying sorry

[madeinwales56]

I feel very sorry for this girl and admire her honesty.
However, I believe she is totally irresponsible to continue to offer personal services with the knowledge she has been  infected by a punter. I can't believe anyone would be so selfish as she is obviously only thinking of the cash despite her HIV status. She has nothing to lose now. As another contributor said, she is infected now so can't catch it again but she can pass it on to other people by having sexual contact with them.

[SmokeEater]

I feel sorry for her if it is hiv and good on her for being open about it but I think she should stop.

Would many on here go and see her?  Probably none but what if a punter that's been to her then goes and see's LK,  Sexy Angelina, NSS, Cassandra, GK and many other popular girls then would we stop seeing them?

Sorry but think she is irresponsible to continue in this work.

[petersclose1]

Think we appear to be missing something on this thread.

Even if the chances are very low - lets say 1% - someone has to be that one in 100.

In this case - here we have that 1 in 100.

Its very sad, I feel for her, but goes to show - in reality - that someone has to be in that low %.

[claretandblue]

Still bloody sad but we all know it could happen.

Agree 100% ,also with the following posters who have made the point that she just shouldn't be working full stop

[Cunning Punt]

Agree 100% ,also with the following posters who have made the point that she just shouldn't be working full stop

Yes, that's my gut feeling. If one of us caught HIV, would we be punting?

Apart from the health risk, one would have to question her state of mind, continuing to do this line of work and she refers to herself having a "blood virus", so slightly in denial IMO.

She seems very sure that she caught it from a certain client who had HIV but didn't disclose it, but as has already been said:

We don't know for a fact that she caught it this way and I'm not sure she can be.

We also don't know how Charlie Sheen caught HIV - nor does he. He was also a drug taker as well as a prolific punter.

The chance of contracting HIV through oral is low and extremely low if you don't swallow or have bleeding gums.

There is a risk with everything, even punting with civvies - and civvies generally get tested less than "professionals".

[CatBBW]

I feel very sorry for this girl and admire her honesty.
However, I believe she is totally irresponsible to continue to offer personal services with the knowledge she has been  infected by a punter. I can't believe anyone would be so selfish as she is obviously only thinking of the cash despite her HIV status. She has nothing to lose now. As another contributor said, she is infected now so can't catch it again but she can pass it on to other people by having sexual contact with them.

And she has been totally honest by including her HIV status in her advertising, she isn't forcing anyone to book her for sexual services. She may have "nothing to lose", but she's not putting anyone at risk who isn't happy to take that risk. She's stating it up-front BEFORE you contact her. 1) that's brave, 2) that's honest, 3) there is a market for HIV+ escorts.

It would be irresponsible if she wasn't open about it and just carried on like she was negative - which I am sure lots of (other) ladies in this industry do anyway!

[CatBBW]

Would many on here go and see her?  Probably none but what if a punter that's been to her then goes and see's LK,  Sexy Angelina, NSS, Cassandra, GK and many other popular girls then would we stop seeing them?

OK, good point. But then again you don't know how many hidden/unknown infected WGs the punters have seen, or how many hidden/unknown punters the WGs have seen, or even if the WG you are seeing is infected. Treat each booking as a potential risk.

[JV547845]

As she is up front about this, perhaps she is hoping to cater for HIV positive punters, you can't catch it twice

+1.  Poor thing.  Commendable honesty.

[madeinwales56]

And she has been totally honest by including her HIV status in her advertising, she isn't forcing anyone to book her for sexual services. She may have "nothing to lose", but she's not putting anyone at risk who isn't happy to take that risk. She's stating it up-front BEFORE you contact her. 1) that's brave, 2) that's honest, 3) there is a market for HIV+ escorts.

It would be irresponsible if she wasn't open about it and just carried on like she was negative - which I am sure lots of (other) ladies in this industry do anyway!

You are giving her credit for her honesty as I did but there is no defence for a prossie to continue working while she has HIV. This woman could be responsible for infecting hundreds of punters and working girls. And do you know why? Because even if a punter is so irresponsible to go with her I doubt he would be stupid enough to admit it let alone post feedback or a review so no one would know. That means that every punter that fucks her and every subsequent prossie he fucks and all the punters who fuck them after that are at risk.
Do not confuse her honesty with her blatant irresponsibility.

[JV547845]

We are all jumping to the conclusion she has HIV.  Even though it's the prime suspect she could have Hep B or Hep C.

PSA:  This is not to be relied on for protection against STIs but if you do think you've been exposed to HIV, then if you can go to A&E within 24 hours for Post Exposure Prophylaxis (PEP) there's a good chance you won't develop a full HIV infection. 

Also it can take up to 3 months for HIV to show up in a blood test at the gum clinic following infection, but the tests are getting better and better.

[CatBBW]

You are giving her credit for her honesty as I did but there is no defence for a prossie to continue working while she has HIV. This woman could be responsible for infecting hundreds of punters and working girls. And do you know why? Because even if a punter is so irresponsible to go with her I doubt he would be stupid enough to admit it let alone post feedback or a review so no one would know. That means that every punter that fucks her and every subsequent prossie he fucks and all the punters who fuck them after that are at risk.
Do not confuse her honesty with her blatant irresponsibility.

Fair point(s). Although if her viral load is low/under control, she poses as little risk as having sex with a non-infected (made her sound like a zombie there, lol). If your viral load is low enough, you can have bareback sex, have a pregnancy, AND give birth without passing HIV to your partner or your baby.

But lets look at the lady. Apologies to BustyElle from a fellow "BBW" if you are reading this, but it's not like she's a "hot model-type" in demand across the board. She's size 20. BBW lovers will be attracted to her. It's unlikely that BBW lovers will see her and then go see any of the forum darlings as they are much much smaller than this lady. Of course there's a chance, but it's a smaller chance than if Busty Elle was a slender, young popular lady.

Her market is for the guys who are HIV+, or who like/want the risk, or who seek to be HIV+. I personally think that most HIV- guys who don't want to risk anything will avoid her.

[madeinwales56]

Fair point(s). Although if her viral load is low/under control, she poses as little risk as having sex with a non-infected (made her sound like a zombie there, lol). If your viral load is low enough, you can have bareback sex, have a pregnancy, AND give birth without passing HIV to your partner or your baby.

But lets look at the lady. Apologies to BustyElle from a fellow "BBW" if you are reading this, but it's not like she's a "hot model-type" in demand across the board. She's size 20. BBW lovers will be attracted to her. It's unlikely that BBW lovers will see her and then go see any of the forum darlings as they are much much smaller than this lady. Of course there's a chance, but it's a smaller chance than if Busty Elle was a slender, young popular lady.

Her market is for the guys who are HIV+, or who like/want the risk, or who seek to be HIV+. I personally think that most HIV- guys who don't want to risk anything will avoid her.

So, Cat, let me ask you this. Would you suck and/or fuck a punter who has fucked her?

[Cunning Punt]

We are all jumping to the conclusion she has HIV.  Even though it's the prime suspect she could have Hep B or Hep C.

She hasn't said exactly - that was the point I made. She should really have been specific.

In the absence of that, given she said she caught this virus from someone who had HIV, then that's the obvious conclusion.

[madeinwales56]

We are all jumping to the conclusion she has HIV.  Even though it's the prime suspect she could have Hep B or Hep C.

PSA:  This is not to be relied on for protection against STIs but if you do think you've been exposed to HIV, then if you can go to A&E within 24 hours for Post Exposure Prophylaxis (PEP) there's a good chance you won't develop a full HIV infection. 

Also it can take up to 3 months for HIV to show up in a blood test at the gum clinic following infection, but the tests are getting better and better.

I can't cut and paste her profile on my phone but she says (words to the effect) that she has contracted a blood virus from a punter with HIV. What do think she's got? Measles?

[CatBBW]

So, Cat, let me ask you this. Would you suck and/or fuck a punter who has fucked her?

And let me turn that on its head - how would I know that all the guys who SAY they only ever use protection with everyone else are telling the truth? I will never know your (for example) full/true sexual history, so you (for example) are as risky to me as she is.

[JV547845]

What do think she's got? Measles?

Hep B or Hep C, the other transmissable blood viruses.

[CatBBW]

Hep B or Hep C, the other transmissable blood viruses.

Or CJD (mad cow disease). But I don't think you can get that from CIM 

[madeinwales56]

And let me turn that on its head - how would I know that all the guys who SAY they only ever use protection with everyone else are telling the truth? I will never know your (for example) full/true sexual history, so you (for example) are as risky to me as she is.

Don't turn the question on its head. Would you suck or fuck a punter who has fucked her?

[MrMatrix]

Think its against the law to have sex, with the knowledge you have such an infection.
Of course she shouldn't be doing this- even if she has made such a declaration buyer beware.
Feel desperately sorry for this young lady. Hopefully she can get this resolved some how.

[vw]

Think its against the law to have sex, with the knowledge you have such an infection.

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Hopefully she can get this resolved some how.

Not sure what you mean by that, there is no cure !

[madeinwales56]

Think its against the law to have sex, with the knowledge you have such an infection.
Of course she shouldn't be doing this- even if she has made such a declaration buyer beware.
Feel desperately sorry for this young lady. Hopefully she can get this resolved some how.

I feel sorry for her too but she is selling sex when she knows she's contracted a blood virus from an HIV infected punter. It's not just a calculated risk it's complete stupidity.

[Belgarion]

Tragic story, I however do not believe she caught it from CIM. The chances are miniscule

In  any event, profile blacklisted