Do Pro$$i£$ Deserve Respect ?

[AnthG]

Although Jimmy appears to have done a complete 180 on this, as James has rightly pointed out.

JRC did say one time that if she matured she could be allowed back. I was looking for the topic last night but cannot remember which topic he said it in as a lot veered onto TK discussions.

I'm beginning to wonder if shadylady has hacked his account!! Perhaps he's feeling loved up with Chelsea right now!

Why always negative reasons. It could be just the mods wanting to show this forum is better than Pnet.

I mean this thread is tantamount to that in itself. People were having quite vigorous disputes on a hotly controversial subject. Nobody was banned, no posts reported (I don't think), nobody talked down to by the mods condescendingly and the thread remains here still open and still open for debate.

Compare that to this thread when I went back and posted in on Pnet.

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The fan got covered with all different varieties All of my posts reported for stupid invented reasons, likely others who did not follow the trend got theirs reported too. I got warnings issued by the mods for cryptic daft reasons due to those reports. And I was invariably banned within a week of rejoining the forum. For simply posting in a discussion thread in a way to in part further the discussion on the subject.

Also mentioning the subject of ShadyLady and tricks. it would kind of be a bit funny if after all this dispute. Dreamgirl turned out to be someone like ShadyLady having a laugh to see if people fell for it being TK.  (that actually would be funny).

If it is TK. I am really pleased she is back. And am pleased she has calmed down. And am pleased the mods have let her back. So pleased all round is a good way to describe it. I was not joking when I was saying TK is certainly the most charismatic and interesting escort by a long way too.

[AnthG]

Absolutely, which is why I think you guys should've kept Penelope on here. I admired her fighting spirit and she left no stone unturned, including dragging her child into it. Sounds familiar, eh.    That was the best prossie post in the history of UKP, in my opinion and you guys banned her!!   

Agree Penelope's post earned the cake for being the best post in history.

And speaking of best posts in looking for the above post on Pnet. I came across this one which is my opinion of the best post on there. Seriously kudos to that guiy.

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[mattylondon]

Why always negative reasons.

Anth, lighten up please. I was joking, for Pete's sake! I totally understand Jimmy's reasoning, even if I don't share it! However, the mods make the decisions and rules. I respect their judgement.

And am pleased she has calmed down.

You take comfort in that, but not if the nasty texts I've received are anything to go by.

I was not joking when I was saying TK is certainly the most charismatic and interesting escort by a long way too.

Please tell me you're joking? The problem with you is that you always show far too much respect to the totally undeserving, including TK, the fat one, SL and all the other dead beats!   

[AnthG]

Anth, lighten up please. I was joking, for Pete's sake!

So was I on that part. I just wanted to turn a joke made which was a little bit on the side of the I cannot believe how she ever could be back stance to a positive slant of the issue as a whole.

Tell me you're joking?   

Nope. Serious. She puts 100% into every punt. Everyone says she has excellent phone manor. And if, and I am saying if Dreamgirl is TK she is obviously wanting to come back as she knows this is the largest punting forum so is wanting to improve her business sense/skills at offering good service to customers even more.

What is not to like in all of that? She is also very fun and energetic (in her posts on forums and blogs)

Again to say I am just guessing here as I have not spoken to TK since about early May time. So it seems the motto of treat em mean keep em keen really is true if she chats and text chats with you and James all the time.

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the fat one, SL and all the other dead beats! 

With regards to this. The fat one has been quite awful to me. So she showed her true colours to a tee. She also banned me from Pnet after a week and after she personally promised me I would never be banned. which just speaks volumes.

SL; I am still in two minds over. In my week back at Pnet. SL Pmed me after the second day or so of my return. And at first I thought here it is she is going to be threatening and intimidating to me. But actually she was so fun and nice to me. I was chatting with her every day till my ban there. Seriously the number one most annoying things with the ban was the ending of those chats with her. As she was fun.

Therefore like I said in the penolope thread I am forming the opinion the public persona is not really her. Or the PMs were just her wanting something from me. But for the life of me I cannot think what so am just guessing she really is just like that.

[mattylondon]

Nope. Serious. She puts 100% into every punt.

An interesting assumption. And based on what evidence exactly? Her word for it? Adultwork Feedback? You cannot say that about any girl, unless you've at least punted her yourself. I wasn't aware you had, so I stand corrected if you have? I cannot say one way or the other, even if I agree her feedback looks good.

Mind you, if stuffing £20s up every crack is going the extra mile, then I'm entitled to agree with you! 

[Matium]

Agree Penelope's post earned the cake for being the best post in history.

I must have missed it.

What did she say?

[AnthG]

I must have missed it.

What did she say?

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https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=7601.msg111288#msg111288

[AnthG]

You cannot say that about any girl, unless you've at least punted her yourself.

People have said this to me before. But I honestly feel there is no reason why not.

If I trust what I read. And like what I read. Then I can form opinions from that of what I have read.

I know before people say it. They do not agree with me on this above stance.

[Matium]

Post #5 in this thread

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=7601.msg111288#msg111288

Did she have a moustache in the Woodman video?

She needs to wax her upper lip!

 

[mattylondon]

People have said this to me before. But I honestly feel there is no reason why not.

Then you are going by what others have said, rather than personal experience. I may trust somebody's judgement, if I respect their point of view and have gone with that, but for me to categorically say what you have.. I'd have to have punted a girl myself. Then curious why you said you'd punt 'Dreamgirl' only if she wasn't TK?! Do you remember that?

[AnthG]

Then you are going by what others have said, rather than personal experience then?

Yes. Which is kind of what these forums are designed for (IMHO). To pool information about escorts to allow others to decide whether they are good ones or not.

I have read that pooled info and decided she is a good one.

As everyone knows I have not punted with TK. She did mention she was going to tour up to Newcastle back in February in her blogs but it never came to fruition. When she does. I will book her.

Then curious why you said you'd punt 'Dreamgirl' only if she wasn't TK?! Do you remember that?

As Dreamgirl seems fun and energetic too.

As does TK, and as does SL, Paige, ImpossiblePrinceess and Kyrsha (three girls I have saw).

I love energetic, hyper chatty girls as it complements my seriously shy personality well. They do most of the talking or are just fun.

[mattylondon]

Did she have a moustache in the Woodman video?

She needs to wax her upper lip!

 

Then give her a white tash, with some of your love lotion! Sounds like she could do with the cash, if that rant was anything to go by.

[Dani]

We can't see who voted but I would guess many of the yes votes are from prostitutes.   

I voted some do and some dont

Mainly because I have met a few who I could never deserve respect the same as I have people in other jobs. I have also met some who are lovely genuine people who I do respect

[Daffodil]

I don't think it is possible to respect a woman because she is a prostitute. She might do other things in her life that are worthy of respect, maybe even to balance out her prostitution, but selling her holes certainly isn't something to admire.

As the only thing I can know for certain about the prostitutes that I meet is that they are prostitutes I cannot respect them like I do other women.

That's not to say that I don't treat them with respect, which is a different thing altogether anyway.

[mattylondon]

I don't think it is possible to respect a woman because she is a prostitute. She might do other things in her life that are worthy of respect, maybe even to balance out her prostitution, but selling her holes certainly isn't something to admire.

Totally agree with all your points. I don't despise or dislike a girl because she's a prostitute, as another poster suggested at all. It just isn't something worthy of admiration, even if I respect the fact a girl performs the task very well and delivers an excellent service. Now if the same girl did other things outside of that, say, work for a reputable charity or such like, that would indeed be worthy of my respect.

[James999]

I don't think it is possible to respect a woman because she is a prostitute.

It is a difficult one, I mean do you "respect" your dustman? and a dustman's job is probably regarded as a higher status than a pro$$ie, after all parents at school will admit to being a dustman but not admit to being a pro$$ie 

[up_peri_scope]

I think respect is an often mis-placed word nowadays, a bit like bless.
I really hate it when people say "oh bless", which normally makes me think they are next in line to be Pope   

If a pro$$ie has worked out this is their best way of making a living then good luck to them. This is no different to someone working in an office, on a production line, or of course driving a taxi 

Other types of work like nurses, doctors, firemen and dare I say it (coughs) the rossers (plod) serve the community. These of course are still jobs but they are serving the community, despite what our beloved press would have us believe.

I respect people for how they behave and what they are like as a person, rather than because they do such and such a job.

Respect Man 

[smiths]

For me its very clear. If a WG offers me a good or better service i respect her for it.

The fact she is a WG doesnt make any difference to me in terms of respect. Also if a WG can immediately earn more than a nurse etc who have to do years of training then good luck to them, it seems a smart move to me, they have chosen to become WGs hopefully not being forced so why not cash in, punters will decide if they fancy the WG or not.

I dont view WGs as lesser people for selling sex, if they are honest and do it well i respect them more than bankers and politicians for example some of whom are lying scum that have cost us many hundreds of billions of pounds.

[mattylondon]

For me its very clear. If a WG offers me a good or better service i respect her for it.

The fact she is a WG doesnt make any difference to me in terms of respect.

I dont view WGs as lesser people for selling sex, if they are honest and do it well i respect them more than bankers and politicians for example some of whom are lying scum that have cost us many hundreds of billions of pounds.

And looking at the wider respective, I wouldn't respect a greedy banker either. The most important thing is that people do the job they're supposed to do. I probably like traffic wardens and parking attendants the least, but they have a job to do and if they do it fairly, I'd respect them for it. I don't particularly find sucking dick for cash an honorable past time, but as long as a girl does he job well, I'd respect her for that.

[smiths]

And looking at the wider respective, I wouldn't respect a greedy banker either. The most important thing is that people do the job they're supposed to do. I probably like traffic wardens and parking attendants the least, but they have a job to do and if they do it fairly, I'd respect them for it. I don't particularly find sucking dick for cash an honorable past time, but as long as a girl does he job well, I'd respect her for that.

Whereas it being or not being honorable is not relevant to me, thats a moral issue, i dont care about that, i just want a good service.

[Daffodil]

And looking at the wider respective, I wouldn't respect a greedy banker either. The most important thing is that people do the job they're supposed to do. I probably like traffic wardens and parking attendants the least, but they have a job to do and if they do it fairly, I'd respect them for it. I don't particularly find sucking dick for cash an honorable past time, but as long as a girl does he job well, I'd respect her for that.

These guys always get a hard time but imagine a world without them. Don't underestimate where arseholes will park their cars.

Some traffic wardens are devious and look mainly to make a quick buck but I prefer that to the alternative. At the end of the day they can only get you if you give them the chance.

[mattylondon]

Whereas it being or not being honorable is not relevant to me, thats a moral issue, i dont care about that, i just want a good service.

That's quite right. But the OPs original question touched on many different aspects of respect. In this sense, you're just touching on the singular aspect of respecting a decent service, as I have done. Of course, there's a wider moral question too, but then punting in itself could be considered immoral, even if I don't equate it anything close to prostitution itself!

Considering the length of the thread, the question is a complex one. 9 pages long. Softlad must be pleased 

[AnthG]

Some traffic wardens are devious and look mainly to make a quick buck but I prefer that to the alternative. At the end of the day they can only get you if you give them the chance.

Most are as I believe they are on commission so they are swines. Same thing with ticket inspectors on the metro and busses. They are definitely on commission and they couldn't care less.

[Daffodil]

Most are as I believe they are on commission so they are swines. Same thing with ticket inspectors on the metro and busses. They are definitely on commission and they couldn't care less.

But park correctly and you don't have a problem. If you don't, for whatever reason, then you only have yourself to blame.

I park illegally now and then and if they get me then I hold my hands up. It's all part of the game.

I have had many more problems from bad parking than I have had from traffic enforcers and some of the places people leave their cars (corners, near zebra crossings, near schools) that are downright dangerous and I'm sure accidents have occurred.

[whiterussian]

was getting a ticket the other day for nipping in and out of th buss lane.  Fair cop.

Only his silly device ran out of paper as he was printing off the ticket. so he let me off.   

[mistygrey]

All you have to do is lie back and think of England.

 

lol i can and do out f*ck 21yr old guys who think they can f*ck me wrong low, guys think coz my rates are low that i'll be a fake orgasm sh*gger, wrong, drive them crazy make them cum over n over again till they stagger out smiling,my fone never  stops, no shows get my roth, and the guys you think wont turn up turn out the best,
I RESECT THEM IF THEY RESECT ME,
IF THEY SAY SEND A FACE PIC I SAY BUY MY GALLERY,
£1 TO SHOW YOUR NUMBER PER DAY
£5 TO SHOW YOR AVAILBLE,
THEN 1/3 GOES I ADMIN TO THE SITE
TREAT OTHERS HOW THEY TREAT YOU,
I'M AN ESCORT NOT A PROZZIE A PROZZIE IS A STREETWALKER,,TOTING FOR TRADE.
XXX MG XXX

[Matium]

I'M AN ESCORT NOT A PROZZIE A PROZZIE IS A STREETWALKER

Erm, wrong.

A Courtesan trades sex for money so does a companion so does a lady of the night so does a whore so does a hooker so does a hussy so does an escort so does a streetwalker and by doing that all of them, every single one of them = Prostitutes.

[Jimmyredcab]

I'M AN ESCORT NOT A PROZZIE A PROZZIE IS A STREETWALKER,,TOTING FOR TRADE.
XXX MG XXX

If you accept cash for sexual services then you are a pro$$ie, pure and simple.

Not to worry, I doubt you will last very long on here anyway. 

[NIK]

lol i can and do out f*ck 21yr old guys who think they can f*ck me wrong low, guys think coz my rates are low that i'll be a fake orgasm sh*gger, wrong, drive them crazy make them cum over n over again till they stagger out smiling,my fone never  stops, no shows get my roth, and the guys you think wont turn up turn out the best,
I RESECT THEM IF THEY RESECT ME,
IF THEY SAY SEND A FACE PIC I SAY BUY MY GALLERY,
£1 TO SHOW YOUR NUMBER PER DAY
£5 TO SHOW YOR AVAILBLE,
THEN 1/3 GOES I ADMIN TO THE SITE
TREAT OTHERS HOW THEY TREAT YOU,
I'M AN ESCORT NOT A PROZZIE A PROZZIE IS A STREETWALKER,,TOTING FOR TRADE.
XXX MG XXX

As has been pointed out to you, anyone who accept payments for sex is a prossy no matter how you dress it up. Methinks you don't comprehend the ethos of UKP.

Furthermore there are probably 'streetwalkers' with better English skills. Our members don't want to read semi-literate ramblings half written in caps.
Save it for your teenage mates on Facebook.

Goodbye.

[James999]

I'M AN ESCORT NOT A PROZZIE A PROZZIE IS A STREETWALKER,,TOTING FOR TRADE.

The jobs the same, it's just the place of work that is different, some may consider working out of doors in the fresh air the more "sco friendly / upmarket" and many cars are cleaner & more luxurious than some of the properties girls work from 

[Gorgeousgabi]

I think it actually depends on the WG. I think standing on a street corner wearing nothing but a flimsy dress would initially take any respect away from that girl in today's society. She is not only exposing herself to anyone who drives by but is putting herself in danger for a small sum of money. Even as I working girl I can't respect that, I just think its stupidity.

However girls who work from a nice flat with security only one press away i feel have a little bit more dignity. Who else gets paid to go to functions/restaurants/holidays and gets pAid for it? The reason the girls get picked for this is because they carry themselves well. For example can hold a conversation, are well
educated and fit into every social scene (ok not every scene.....80 year old money maker with a 21 year old blonde stands out a mile!)

The point I'm trying to make is that WGs can only be respected shown in the level of respect they have for themselves.

[AnthG]

Who else gets paid to go to functions/restaurants/holidays and gets pAid for it? The reason the girls get picked for this is because they carry themselves well. For example can hold a conversation, are well educated and fit into every social scene

I don't think they do to be honest - get paid to go to social events as part of their job etc. The whole idea of this gets laughed off the forums as an old wives tale to be honest.

Furthermore when I suggested it as an option to do with an escort it was seen as sad and desperate.

[Gorgeousgabi]

Can actually confirm its not an old wives tale at all....I've been to London twice, Manchester and Marbella with clients all been paid for with a fee ontop and ive only been working for a few months.

People who see punting as "sad and desperate" need to step into the 21st Century (no offence but the majority will be in sexless relationships/marriages anyway)

xxx

[AnthG]

People who see punting as "sad and desperate" need to step into the 21st Century (no offence but the majority will be in sexless relationships/marriages anyway)

Its not the punting - i.e sex, that people on the forums see as sad and desperate. Its the paying the girl to go somewhere with you socially.

[Gorgeousgabi]

Oh.....why? You get sex afterwards haha. Fair enough point but it saves face of turning up alone or with someone youvejust met and don't really know if they will fit in xxx

[smiths]

Can actually confirm its not an old wives tale at all....I've been to London twice, Manchester and Marbella with clients all been paid for with a fee ontop and ive only been working for a few months.

People who see punting as "sad and desperate" need to step into the 21st Century (no offence but the majority will be in sexless relationships/marriages anyway)

xxx

Its definitely not an old wives tale, some punters do punt for more than sex, they want and like a meal, drink or take a WG out on the clock as well. I punt for sex only myself and wouldnt pay on the clock for anything else.

The point is some do and some WGs happily provide this to them.

[Jimmyredcab]

Its definitely not an old wives tale, some punters do punt for more than sex, they want and like a meal, drink or take a WG out on the clock as well.

You know as well as I do that genuine "escorting", in other words going to the theatre or restaurants is only a tiny part of this industry, the vast majority of punters are like us and just pay for sex.
In 30 years of punting I have only taken one pro$$ie to a restaurant, only because she assured me there would be no charge for her time.

[smiths]

You know as well as I do that genuine "escorting", in other words going to the theatre or restaurants is only a tiny part of this industry, the vast majority of punters are like us and just pay for sex.
In 30 years of punting I have only taken one pro$$ie to a restaurant, only because she assured me there would be no charge for her time.

Indeed, and many of those punters want sex before or after or before and after any social time anyway.

I have happily had a drink and/or a meal with WGs i have liked, always off the clock, i have family and friends i can chat to or go out with socially for no set fee.

[Jimmyredcab]

I have happily had a drink and/or a meal with WGs i have liked, always off the clock, i have family and friends i can chat to or go out with socially for no set fee.

I think that men who pay pro$$ies to have a meal with them are very sad individuals.   

[Dani]

I hate social time in escorting.  It is always quite uncomfortable as you are in a forced situation where you have to be happy and smiley even though he is about as interesting as watching moss grow and the men who want to book me for this all seem to be late 60s, 70s and want lots of public touching which just looks strange or they tend to over drink and get rather loud which I find very embarassing as I am far more restrained in public

It is a bit different with a long standing regular who I know I get on well with but otherwise I always turn them down.

I prefer the more honest sex bookings as even of you have nothing in common you can both still have a bloody good time and there is also no crossing of boundaries.

Plus to be honest I always find it a bit strange to be paid to sit in a restaurant as I feel I am conning them out of their money as I am not doing anything to earn it

[AnthG]

I've been to London twice, Manchester and Marbella with clients all been paid for with a fee ontop and ive only been working for a few months.

It is a bit different with a long standing regular who I know I get on well with but otherwise I always turn them down.

I have asked this a couple of times before from people and will ask again as I really am genuinely curious. But how much do you girls charge for just a restaurant booking like this?

And this one is mainly @ Gabi, but in Newcastle which are appropriate ones to go to? I am not really a restaurant type person, and my idea of a restaurant is literally taking someone to Pizza Hut. Which I am guessing is far from everyone else's idea of one. But I am interested in giving this a try with someone at least one time. So like I say which ones do people go to in Newcastle for this?

[James999]

I have asked this a couple of times before from people and will ask again as I really am genuinely curious. But how much do you girls charge for just a restaurant booking like this?

The answer is whatever the Mug will stand, I've been to dinner many times with pro$$ies and never paid for their "time" anyone who pays a girl to eat with him may as well just get MUG tattooed on his forehead

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[AnthG]

I've been to dinner many times with pro$$ies and never paid for their "time"

Then you could share how you managed it. How did it come about? Did you just ask straight, was it a regular or someone you've never seen before for example.

[James999]

With girls I've seen a few times, have then "done lunch" after bookings, and evening meals as well if I am working away, Pro$$ies need to eat to you know And if they have a choice of turning up at a hotel at 9 for a shag and leave at 10 / 11 or turn up at 7 and leave at 10 / 11 and get a free meal most will pick the meal 

One tip though, make sure you have a session before you eat as often it's not as energetic after a full meal & wine 

[Gorgeousgabi]

I have asked this a couple of times before from people and will ask again as I really am genuinely curious. But how much do you girls charge for just a restaurant booking like this?

And this one is mainly @ Gabi, but in Newcastle which are appropriate ones to go to? I am not really a restaurant type person, and my idea of a restaurant is literally taking someone to Pizza Hut. Which I am guessing is far from everyone else's idea of one. But I am interested in giving this a try with someone at least one time. So like I say which ones do people go to in Newcastle for this?

I love eating out in Newcastle because there are so many different places! Chinese food...china town, hands down! Japanese food: Fujiarmas in the city centre, a more relaxed atmosphere and not too pricey: The Gate, there are tons of food places in there! For Italians I always venture to Sunderland to Eataly....the best place around! Proper stonebaked pizzas, beautiful!

I personally think if someone wants to pay for other people's time then that's their prerogative. People shouldn't judge.

[Gorgeousgabi]

With girls I've seen a few times, have then "done lunch" after bookings, and evening meals as well if I am working away, Pro$$ies need to eat to you know And if they have a choice of turning up at a hotel at 9 for a shag and leave at 10 / 11 or turn up at 7 and leave at 10 / 11 and get a free meal most will pick the meal 

One tip though, make sure you have a session before you eat as often it's not as energetic after a full meal & wine 

"Pro$$ies need to eat you know" Is possibly one of the best phrases i've ever heard on here. 

[James999]

"Pro$$ies need to eat you know" Is possibly one of the best phrases i've ever heard on here. 

When I'm next in Newcastle if you buy me dinner I may share a few more phrases  Or should I pm them to Anth so he can "woo you" 

[Gorgeousgabi]

When I'm next in Newcastle if you buy me dinner I may share a few more phrases  Or should I pm them to Anth so he can "woo you" 

Haha deal on both matters! However I don't pay for dinners.....I just ditch the bill and start running! You a good sprinter?  xxx

[James999]

As long as you've finished the meal properly first of course 

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[Gorgeousgabi]

Always