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Offline Marmalade

The medical trade, which is what he said, can mean a lot of things. It can mean the people who sell the stuff online, and by and large (there is no standard) it would often appear to be 100mg as that is probably the most sold dosage, partly as it is the most cost-effective.

What the medical establishment recommend is sometimes different. Anyone can check that under the BNF (British National Formulary) which is the reference book your doctor uses (though is not obliged to follow). The BNF states:
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ADULT over 18 years initially 50 mg approx. 1 hour before sexual activity, subsequent doses adjusted according to response to 25–100 mg as a single dose as needed; max. 1 dose in 24 hours (max. single dose 100 mg)

HOWEVER there is a reason for this. Good Medical Practice (which you can reference from the BMA or any good medical handbook) requires doctors always (as a general rule) to commence treatment with the least invasive treatment that may work. The lowest highly effective dose statistically for sildenafil (which you can confirm by looking up the various studies) is 50mg. So your GP is generally advised to begin treatment at that dose and wait for patient feedback and vary the dose as required. My opinion is that a lot of doctors may simply prescribe 100mg though, especially in an older patient. This is possibly an instinctive balance between costs and likely effectiveness. (You can look up sildenafil in the England prescribing statistics and while some statistics include differences in dose, a lot don't.) Although the NHS claim that prescribing is not based on cost, my own analysis shows that some medicines are miraculously considered better or worse depending on the sudden price changes!

willmo1

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It would be impossible to cut a 50mg pill into 8 parts ------------- you would end up with powder.   :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

No jimmy. The coating holds it together if you take it easy. I use the wire cutter part of some small pliers to split it. Line it dead centre and carefully break it into 4. Then do the same with the quarters. Been doing it for a while and only had a couple crumble on me. Just dont try to rush it.

Its tricky and takes some care but it does work. Honest.  ;)

Offline lostandfound

Starting with a smaller dose of any powerful drug seems common sense to me, particularly if older, as may have high blood pressure, which I've read means sildenafil may not be suitable. Not sure why as I also read it was originally developed to lower blood pressure, but maybe it would react with other hypertension drugs if also being taken.

Offline Marmalade

No jimmy. The coating holds it together if you take it easy. I use the wire cutter part of some small pliers to split it. Line it dead centre and carefully break it into 4. Then do the same with the quarters. Been doing it for a while and only had a couple crumble on me. Just dont try to rush it.

Its tricky and takes some care but it does work. Honest.  ;)

I find this highly improbable! Not only would one eighth of a 50mg tablet be little more than a fucking crumb itself, the idea that it (about 6mg) is "working a treat" is utter nonsense. It is far too small an amount to have any effect whatsoever. Even as a preventative for heart conditions, 25mg doses are required. About the only thing in that idiotic series of posts that rings true is getting no side effects. It makes me wonder if such a fantasist's 'extensive punting' and 'two trips to Thailand a year' are also utter wank, especially as he doesn't seem to have reviewed even one of his exploits.

Tiny doses of cialis might be more believable as they could become cumulative over a 36hr period; but a hard-on from 6mg of viagra? I don't think so. The bioavailability of viagra is only about 41% so the amount getting into your system from swallowing a 6mg dose, supposing anyone could arrange such a precisely small dose outside of the laboratory, is completely negligible.

willmo1

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I find this highly improbable! Not only would one eighth of a 50mg tablet be little more than a fucking crumb itself, the idea that it (about 6mg) is "working a treat" is utter nonsense. It is far too small an amount to have any effect whatsoever. Even as a preventative for heart conditions, 25mg doses are required. About the only thing in that idiotic series of posts that rings true is getting no side effects. It makes me wonder if such a fantasist's 'extensive punting' and 'two trips to Thailand a year' are also utter wank, especially as he doesn't seem to have reviewed even one of his exploits.

Tiny doses of cialis might be more believable as they could become cumulative over a 36hr period; but a hard-on from 6mg of viagra? I don't think so. The bioavailability of viagra is only about 41% so the amount getting into your system from swallowing a 6mg dose, supposing anyone could arrange such a precisely small dose outside of the laboratory, is completely negligible.

You're an unpleasant fellow arent you? Quite frankly I think you have an opinion ownership issue on this forum which might bother others but doesnt worry affect me in the least. Grow up and get over yourself.

Carry on spouting by all means, but try reading elsewhere that I suggest my need for the tablet is purely 'in my head' and it makes what you say pointless. I cut the pills into eight peices FACT. Please yourself if you dont like it :hi:

As for your reviews.? More about polishing your own ego than helping others perhaps?



Offline Jimmyredcab

I cut the pills into eight peices FACT. Please yourself if you dont like it :hi:



You saying it doesn't make it fact.    :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I have cut a 100mg pill into 4 with a brand new stanley blade ------------ even then there were lots of "crumbs".    :rolleyes:

Offline george r

Sandoz sildenafil are the best for splitting, they have a cross already half way through them

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Offline Marmalade

You're an unpleasant fellow arent you? Quite frankly I think you have an opinion ownership issue on this forum which might bother others but doesnt worry affect me in the least. Grow up and get over yourself.

Carry on spouting by all means, but try reading elsewhere that I suggest my need for the tablet is purely 'in my head' and it makes what you say pointless. I cut the pills into eight peices FACT. Please yourself if you dont like it :hi:

As for your reviews.? More about polishing your own ego than helping others perhaps?

My concern is putting the punter first. I have criticised your posts because they give misleading information, which I have demonstrated, because they seem factually hard to believe, which several people have demonstrated, and because you do not seem to contribute anything of value to punters. You talk the talk but don't walk the walk. My reviews, (as if it were any business of yours, as you don't seem to care about punters) frequently involve going out on the line and exposing myself to hate posts from prossies and their whiteknights so no, I don't think they are for my ego. Reviews are what UKP is about. In fact, I would be better off personally not making many of them. I do so to give something back to UKP.

You seem to talk rubbish, and get angry when I point it out. I am criticising your posts, not you, as your posts are not helpful to punters. Prove me wrong by posting something that can be backed up by facts and that helps punters. If you do so, you will eventually have my respect. If you don't I will possibly expose your nonsense. As to the crap that is "all in your head," I suggest keep it there. Or get a brain transplant.  :D

Offline Marmalade

Sandoz sildenafil are the best for splitting, they have a cross already half way through them

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Nice find. The others that are reasonably easy to split are the chewable ones for those that can get them. They are larger in size (physically). It would be helpful if more manufacturers made them the way those Sandoz ones are made though.

willmo1

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My concern is putting the punter first. I have criticised your posts because they give misleading information, which I have demonstrated, because they seem factually hard to believe, which several people have demonstrated, and because you do not seem to contribute anything of value to punters. You talk the talk but don't walk the walk. My reviews, (as if it were any business of yours, as you don't seem to care about punters) frequently involve going out on the line and exposing myself to hate posts from prossies and their whiteknights so no, I don't think they are for my ego. Reviews are what UKP is about. In fact, I would be better off personally not making many of them. I do so to give something back to UKP.

You seem to talk rubbish, and get angry when I point it out. I am criticising your posts, not you, as your posts are not helpful to punters. Prove me wrong by posting something that can be backed up by facts and that helps punters. If you do so, you will eventually have my respect. If you don't I will possibly expose your nonsense. As to the crap that is "all in your head," I suggest keep it there. Or get a brain transplant.  :D

Dear oh dear. You really do have issues with me dont you? Move on and save your bullying for someone who cares about what you think. Ive got nothing to prove to anyone and I will leave it to admin to say whether my input is welcome here or not. If they want me gone I will disappear.

On reviews. With your anger problem I truly wonder how many of your negs are more to do with your attitude to people rather than the girl? Worth thinking about? The reason I dont do or act on them. Im not you or anything like you.

Offline Jimmyredcab

My concern is putting the punter first. I have criticised your posts because they give misleading information, which I have demonstrated, because they seem factually hard to believe, which several people have demonstrated, and because you do not seem to contribute anything of value to punters.

He has handed in his resignation, good riddance in my very humble opinion.   :dance:

Offline Marmalade

Dear oh dear. You really do have issues with me dont you? Move on and save your bullying for someone who cares about what you think. Ive got nothing to prove to anyone and I will leave it to admin to say whether my input is welcome here or not. If they want me gone I will disappear.

On reviews. With your anger problem I truly wonder how many of your negs are more to do with your attitude to people rather than the girl? Worth thinking about? The reason I dont do or act on them. Im not you or anything like you.

Think what you like. I'm not admin and you haven't done anything bannable yet. You carry on talking crap and I'll carry on saying what I think about shit like this:

No jimmy. The coating holds it together if you take it easy. I use the wire cutter part of some small pliers to split it. Line it dead centre and carefully break it into 4. Then do the same with the quarters. Been doing it for a while and only had a couple crumble on me. Just dont try to rush it.

Its tricky and takes some care but it does work. Honest.

Even you know it's a pile of shit.  :sarcastic:

Offline Marmalade

He has handed in his resignation, good riddance in my very humble opinion.   :dance:
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"Please delete me account"
he wrote.

No way: banned members simply remain as banned (as far as I know anyway), so that way there is a permanent record of their twattishness.

Offline Jimmyredcab

Sandoz sildenafil are the best for splitting, they have a cross already half way through them

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Yes, but they are 100mg pills, fairly easy to split into four -------------- imagine splitting a 25mg pill into 8.    :rolleyes:

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Offline Marmalade

Yes, but they are 100mg pills, fairly easy to split into four -------------- imagine splitting a 25mg pill into 8.    :rolleyes:
:D :D :D :D :D :D

Offline budz

My experience as a first time user today....
Took 50 mg on an empty stomach with some water and couple of ibuprofen as been getting headaches all week and didn't want it to get worse.  No word of a lie but within 10 minutes I could feel face flushing up, not enough to be bright red but defo hotter than usual,  plenty of fresh air required to keep cool.
1st pop quite early as expected during OWO but he stayed up for nearly an hour before popping again. Chuffed to bits with my efforts today and well worth it for extended fun time 😆

oring123

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For me viagra (trade name ) gives less side effects.
 than sildenafil (drug name ) generic tablets DO.

only problem with a nhs script  the drug name (sildenafil )
is listed so it's pot luck what manufacture (ie company make )
of tablets the pharmacy prescribes to you  (lloyds  )

Offline george r

For me viagra (trade name ) gives less side effects.
 than sildenafil (drug name ) generic tablets DO.

only problem with a nhs script  the drug name (sildenafil )
is listed so it's pot luck what manufacture (ie company make )
of tablets the pharmacy prescribes to you  (lloyds  )


only tried sildenafil myself because of the high price of Viagra, and side effects almost nil now for me after regular use but the facial flushing was noticeable when I first started using them.

Offline lostandfound

For me viagra (trade name ) gives less side effects.
 than sildenafil (drug name ) generic tablets DO.

only problem with a nhs script  the drug name (sildenafil )
is listed so it's pot luck what manufacture (ie company make )
of tablets the pharmacy prescribes to you  (lloyds  )

This supplier allows you to specify a brand preference when you order -

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Based on what they have in stock of course and they do update re stock currently held.

They're NHS approved and there is an online consultation \ prescription process. I used them recently. The additional cost over eg kamagra, for consultation etc has fallen to the point where any difference in cost seems modest to me.

I've always thought talk of differences between products with the same active ingredient was BS, but I have observed I get fewer side effects with Kamagra than with Silagra. Still not convinced that the difference isn't down to other factors such as how tired I was on a particular day or some other random factor rather than down to the pill formulation!


Offline budz

I've recently moved from taking 50mg to 100mg, to guarantee a decent boner (I'm a more mature Punter!). Lasts all day for me and if I take it in the morning for an afternoon punt I've usually also lost the worst of the flushed face side effect which I get.
Apologies for resurrecting this thread but in my first 2 punts I took 50mg pills but found them starting to wear off after second pop. If I was to take a 100mg pill does that give a harder boner for longer periods of time or not make any difference?


Offline Marmalade

Apologies for resurrecting this thread but in my first 2 punts I took 50mg pills but found them starting to wear off after second pop. If I was to take a 100mg pill does that give a harder boner for longer periods of time or not make any difference?
Technically it's not meant to as the stuff is metabolised at the same rate for any normal quantity, but it seems to vary immensely from one individual to another. I'd just experiment if I were you.

Flunt

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I used to buy Kamagra online without any problems. After reading a few of the threads on here I found a local Asda for Sildenafil and more recently I have had a couple of prescriptions for Cialis. The first cost me around £32, while the second 'script I took to Boots which they charged me standard £8.40 for  :unknown:

Personally my usage is based more on mental issues as opposed to physical needs, in other words, I rise to the occasion when there is no pro$$ie around. In support of Willmo and his measuring of 6.25mg it may have had the desired placebo effect for him? As for the cost of the pills in perspective of the price of a punt, why bother splitting them?

On topic, I usually punt on a weekend afternoon. I try to eat around midday for a 4pm punt, start on the pineapple juice instead of tea and take the whole 50mg about 3pm. Most post punt Saturday nights I'm alone in bed wishing I had some company, one of the reasons I enjoy overnights (but that is a different topic).

oring123

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I tried taking siderfil 1 and3/4 hours before the punt seemed to work better .any comments from others about time period lenght before punt to take  it ?

Offline tesla

I take it about an hour before a punt with plenty of water

Offline two20

I normally take 50mg 45 minutes before a punt and that seems like the ideal dose for me. I do flush up a bit on the drive over there but I take a water bottle with me now. Twice i've tried 100mg which came as a freebie with my 50mg. Both times I failed to finish and suffered big headaches. Apparently you can have too much of a good thing.

Offline punterman99

I find no difference between Viagra and Sildenafil.  I split a 50mg pill in half so I am taking 25mg.  I take it about 20 mins before a punt.  I don't necessarily take it with loads of water but I do try to leave it at least a half hour after I have eaten.  I used to take it about 45 mins before but found that I faded too quickly and a second pop was difficult.  20 mins before and all is good.  I used to feel my face flush up when I first started taking 50mg so I tried half dose.  There was less face flushing and now that has reduced to none.  I get no other side affects, only the desired results!  Just goes to show that we are all different and what works for one does not work for another.
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Offline budz

I normally take 50mg 45 minutes before a punt and that seems like the ideal dose for me. I do flush up a bit on the drive over there but I take a water bottle with me now. Twice i've tried 100mg which came as a freebie with my 50mg. Both times I failed to finish and suffered big headaches. Apparently you can have too much of a good thing.

Got a punt booked for this week and will try a 100mg to see what difference it makes.  I will report back afterwards  :drinks:

Offline Titi

I had a dinner date last night for 4 hours and took 75g earlier on in the evening on a fairly empty stomach ( heavy lunch at 1pm ). Drank the following : 1 gin and tonic, half a bottle of proseco, 2 cocktails and 2 glasses of Baileys. The result was epic. The longest boner I have ever had. Think I wrecked the ass and pussy of the WG. We both had multiple orgasms and She offered me to stay the night at no extra cost as I was that good  :cool: :cool: :cool: Anyway think I've found my perfect dosage.

Offline budz

I had a dinner date last night for 4 hours and took 75g earlier on in the evening on a fairly empty stomach ( heavy lunch at 1pm ). Drank the following : 1 gin and tonic, half a bottle of proseco, 2 cocktails and 2 glasses of Baileys. The result was epic. The longest boner I have ever had. Think I wrecked the ass and pussy of the WG. We both had multiple orgasms and She offered me to stay the night at no extra cost as I was that good  :cool: :cool: :cool: Anyway think I've found my perfect dosage.
Do you think the alcohol numbed you down or the 75 mg kept him up? Had thought of doing 75 to find the effect before jumping up to 100

Offline Titi

No the alcohol had no effect and to be honest I was worried it would have an adverse effect. I took the pills with lost of water before drinking. The instructions said not to drink alcohol before taking the pills. Overall it worked out a lot better than expected. I will try the same dosage again without any alcohol and report back on the difference. Also I had mild headaches this morning but nothing a couple of pain killers couldn't solve.

Offline budz

I normally take paracetamol at the same time as the blue pills to stop the headaches. Going to try 75 instead of 100 this week, no point wasting them by over dosing but gotta get it right before I have to buy more

NotoriousNot

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I had a dinner date last night for 4 hours and took 75g earlier on in the evening on a fairly empty stomach ( heavy lunch at 1pm ). Drank the following : 1 gin and tonic, half a bottle of proseco, 2 cocktails and 2 glasses of Baileys. The result was epic. The longest boner I have ever had. Think I wrecked the ass and pussy of the WG. We both had multiple orgasms and She offered me to stay the night at no extra cost as I was that good  :cool: :cool: :cool: Anyway think I've found my perfect dosage.

No wonder it worked if you took 75 grammes mate!

Offline budz

Cmon guys, punt is booked for this afternoon at 1pm for 3 hours, do I take 75 or 100? Put it to the vote...

Offline george r

to take 75mg you will need to take three 25mg tablets of split  other strengths into pieces ..take 50mg its plenty ..

Offline budz

to take 75mg you will need to take three 25mg tablets of split  other strengths into pieces ..take 50mg its plenty ..
I have some 50 and 100s so no problem to make up a 75. Found before that a 50 don't keep him up much past the 90 minute period so was going to try a larger dose to see how much impact that has on it. Just interested in your thoughts and what you chaps would do

Offline tesla

with regard to dose it's what works for you, if 25 works why take more...when I started to use kamagra some 12/13 years ago I found 25mg works just fine, nowadays I have to use 50mg.

So what I am saying is don't use the larger dose until you really need to...

Offline budz

Reporting back from yesterday larger dose trial. I decided to try a 75mg dose to see what affect it would have and can say after taking on an empty stomach with a pint of water I did flush up a bit but it subsided within an hour, definitely knocked my sensitivity down as first pop usually happens in 10 mins but lasted more like 30, so glad I had plenty of time with WG. She wanted more so after he rose to attention with a fab bj we fucked doggie in front of a mirror for what seemed like ages till we both blew our tops. Fab time but will go back down to 50mg for next time as I was worn out! Had a headache all evening but that could be the after sex coffee she made was a bit strong lol So glad I didn't go with the 100 option :)

Offline lostandfound

Been using on and off for several years. I've learnt that 50 mg is enough. Never tried 25 mg as I slice 100 mg in two for 50 mg, and slicing a 100 mg tablet four ways is beyond my skill level. Maybe I'll order some 50 mg tabs and give 25 a go.

Once had to go for a plan B, and realising it would be 4 hours since I'd taken 50 mg, took another 50 mg an hour before the punt. A mistake, for me, as I felt nauseous in the hour leading up to punt, and briefly felt faint (for a few moments each time), several times in the first 4 hours or so, after the punt.

Offline george r

if you can buy sandoz brand of sildenafil they have a cross impressed into them nearly half way through and split into 4 pieces very easy by pressing against a plat surface without a knife.

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Offline lostandfound

if you can buy sandoz brand of sildenafil they have a cross impressed into them nearly half way through and split into 4 pieces very easy by pressing against a plat surface without a knife.

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Cheers.  :drinks:

Actually having posted as I did, I decided as an experiment to try cutting a Kamagra tablet into 4 pieces. The result was no work of art, but swallowing an approx quarter slice of a 100 mg Kamagra tablet has had the usual effect I get from 50 mg - but hopefully less side effect. Makes me wonder what would happen if I got a 25 mg and sliced that in two!

Offline GreyDave

 :hi: 

Buy a pill splitter from ASDA they a little box with a razor blade in the lid the base has a V shape and pill is put in place and sliced some times I am able to cut 4 quarters equally  some times they are a bit off BUT THE BEST BIT IS .. :drinks: The dust is kept in place and can be used to I have a chop up session then with the dust find it use able too I aim to do 6ths as this seems to work for me :D :D

Offline lostandfound

Cheers - it is in fact a pill splitter from Asda that I used to split a 100 mg tab into somewhat uneven "quarters".  :drinks:

I'm now thinking I should get some of those easy-to-cut-up Sandoz tabs in 50 mg size, just to see if even a 12.5 mg ie a quartered Sandoz would work. Even with 50 mg I find the side effect a bit of a pain. I sometimes wonder what folks think of my red face that I sometimes have for hours. Once a ticket collector laughed and good humouredly muttered something about me being pissed as a newt (I'd not had a drink - just bright red from sildenafil). One of the girls at LMP once asked me why the side of my neck had gone bright red. I told her it was sunburn.  :D

Offline ZXX

I find no difference between Viagra and Sildenafil.  I split a 50mg pill in half so I am taking 25mg.  I take it about 20 mins before a punt.  I don't necessarily take it with loads of water but I do try to leave it at least a half hour after I have eaten.  I used to take it about 45 mins before but found that I faded too quickly and a second pop was difficult.  20 mins before and all is good.  I used to feel my face flush up when I first started taking 50mg so I tried half dose.  There was less face flushing and now that has reduced to none.  I get no other side affects, only the desired results!  Just goes to show that we are all different and what works for one does not work for another.

Viagra and Sildenafil are the same thing, viagra is the brand name and only Pfizer is allowed to sell it under that name. Other companies can produce viagra but they aren't legally allowed to call it that. This is also why sildenafil can be bought for much cheaper.

oring123

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 Viagra which  is the brand of Pfizer and only they  can make
but has less side effects
less facial flushing and less indigestion
than  Sildenafil  which any company can now make
for me
« Last Edit: May 06, 2016, 08:37:51 pm by oring123 »

Offline Titi

Reporting back from yesterday larger dose trial. I decided to try a 75mg dose to see what affect it would have and can say after taking on an empty stomach with a pint of water I did flush up a bit but it subsided within an hour, definitely knocked my sensitivity down as first pop usually happens in 10 mins but lasted more like 30, so glad I had plenty of time with WG. She wanted more so after he rose to attention with a fab bj we fucked doggie in front of a mirror for what seemed like ages till we both blew our tops. Fab time but will go back down to 50mg for next time as I was worn out! Had a headache all evening but that could be the after sex coffee she made was a bit strong lol So glad I didn't go with the 100 option :)

Next time take a couple of paracetamol ( any painkiller ) at the same time or after the blue pills and it will probably minimise the side effects. Someone on here advised me to try it and it worked like a treat when I road tested 100g for a 1.5 hrs FFM.

Offline diddy

As someone said here earlier in the thread, why bother with Viagra or Sildenfil, when Cialis last up to 36 hours and has less indigestion side effects plus only takes 10-20 mins to work...Your GP can prescribe this also privately, I can get 8 x 20mg which is strong, cut in half is fine for starters and no pressure on time, you fuck, you rest, you fuck, you sleep, you wake up and fuck etc etc all on the same pill....the only downer for me is that I get heart palpitations on cialis, and really fucked up dreams..the weird dreams happen every time..

oring123

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Calis still £34 for 4 x 20mg from private script
Hop much do you take per punt ?

Offline lostandfound

Latest batch of generic Sildenafil cost me 80p per 100 mg tab. As I've just discovered 25 mg works for me, that's 20p a go, with moderate side effect.

Online btb62

As someone said here earlier in the thread, why bother with Viagra or Sildenfil, when Cialis last up to 36 hours and has less indigestion side effects plus only takes 10-20 mins to work...Your GP can prescribe this also privately, I can get 8 x 20mg which is strong, cut in half is fine for starters and no pressure on time, you fuck, you rest, you fuck, you sleep, you wake up and fuck etc etc all on the same pill....the only downer for me is that I get heart palpitations on cialis, and really fucked up dreams..the weird dreams happen every time..

I totally agree with this and its what I use. Half a tab, 10mg taken at night to minimise any side effects, though I generally have good dreams so can't comment about that aspect. I'd say that dose lasts more like 5 days for me, the effect gradually weakening, though when seeing someone I take another 10mg the night before. If not seeing anyone I still  take 10mg once a week or so as it feels good.

I buy online, not everyone's preferred method, but I've been getting them that way since they became available and never noticed any variation in quality or effect per dose. Last time I bought 30 x 20mg for £38.99, so about £1.30 each. For me its the perfect solution to getting the droop as I get older.

oring123

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Which on line place is that pls also have you tried. Spectra or similar the newest ed  drug ?