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Manners, Brian.  Not everyone has the same authorial skills.

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Offline 6upxxx

Manners, Brian.  Not everyone has the same authorial skills.

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Stop taking the Mick out of Brain, 2% a fountain of all knowledge the other 98% vacant unused space.....sorry Brain!

Offline Brian

"Brain"? Is this a thread for people who can't spell properly? LOL


Offline 6upxxx

Now I really must get the new set up in MK straight, as there are now some 4 different parlours.
Read this
http://www.auto-censored.com/frs/fr_view.php?recnum=100818

now there is no way I would of given them a good report, this whole time thing was the issue with me and Serena, where she left the room for a third of the punt! Serena was at Annabellas, this time its at Milton Keynes Escorts.
Now I have punted at MK, mostly under the old HOD set up, for over four years. I have been told that maybe my expectations are now too high. Recently after a while off MK I have gone back and now seen some half a dozen girls. This shower thing is poor practice. The only time it should be part of the punt time is when it is a shared shower. The girls should be told in all the parlours to be with the client for the full alloted time. Putting their clothes back on only when time is up.
The standards have slipped, no doubt about it in my mind. I have praised a couple of them recently on here for providing a good punt, but thats what they were good not Great punts. I am begining to believe that the fact that Miton Keynes is the punting Mecca, means the girls are earning good money too easily.
I dislike saying it because HOD in particular have been really good to me over the years, but you know this sort of thing confirms it for me, it is not my expectations that have changed. The girls, services, timekeeping and general willingness to give it their all, was much better two years ago.
I hope all the owners take it the right way, but it is a management problem, created in part by fluffy punters like the one above who excuse it.

Offline House Of Divine

Now I really must get the new set up in MK straight, as there are now some 4 different parlours.
Read this
http://www.auto-censored.com/frs/fr_view.php?recnum=100818

now there is no way I would of given them a good report, this whole time thing was the issue with me and Serena, where she left the room for a third of the punt! Serena was at Annabellas, this time its at Milton Keynes Escorts.
Now I have punted at MK, mostly under the old HOD set up, for over four years. I have been told that maybe my expectations are now too high. Recently after a while off MK I have gone back and now seen some half a dozen girls. This shower thing is poor practice. The only time it should be part of the punt time is when it is a shared shower. The girls should be told in all the parlours to be with the client for the full alloted time. Putting their clothes back on only when time is up.
The standards have slipped, no doubt about it in my mind. I have praised a couple of them recently on here for providing a good punt, but thats what they were good not Great punts. I am begining to believe that the fact that Miton Keynes is the punting Mecca, means the girls are earning good money too easily.
I dislike saying it because HOD in particular have been really good to me over the years, but you know this sort of thing confirms it for me, it is not my expectations that have changed. The girls, services, timekeeping and general willingness to give it their all, was much better two years ago.
I hope all the owners take it the right way, but it is a management problem, created in part by fluffy punters like the one above who excuse it.

Not going to defend anyone as no one is perfect. The managers of the new establishments do not take as much interest in the forums as myself and The Duchess do so perhaps there is lays the problem. My advice, if you have the time and the inclination is a constructive email direct to the management outlining your concerns, evidencing them with times, facts and offering your opinion on how they might improve things in the future.

Having managed girls (call it pimping if you like haters out there) it is very difficult to dictate services. The basic requirements are a full personal and reverse oral. Everything else is at the ladies discretion, they chop and change their services like the weather. They may offer CIM in the morning, see a client in the afternoon who doesn't get CIM then when you question it they say they've decided they're not doing it anymore.
We have sacked girls for 'poor service' but only 8-10 in 9 years. The busier girls also tend to be the biggest Divas too, with success comes a swelling of the Ego (I too suffer from this condition, I know it's hard to believe). With a big Ego comes contempt and a feeling of invincibility which is normally ill placed in most cases. This makes for a awkward situation for agency owners dealing with their stars.

The best girls normally burn out quickly. Tell me 6upxxx who do you return to as a guaranteed great punt after your years of punting? If you cannot answer this then I would imagine she has retired which proves what I am saying. Devon was and to date still is the best girl to have worked at HoD, she would be booked solid 48 hours in advance which was unheard of before or after she left. However she only worked for 12 months in total and will never return. Emotionally she was wrecked, the difference with Devon was that she never let it show and retired on a high.

Hypothetically how would you if you were a agency manager address the issues you have raised? You've pointed them out and the owners will if they actually read this speak to the girls in the 'shower gate' episode but how would you enforce it to prevent it happening again?

6upxxx we have spoken in person before so you know we take customer care very seriously hence this reply, my intention is not to put you on the spot, your feedback and the other clients is invaluable to us.

Karl

Offline 6upxxx


Not going to defend anyone as no one is perfect. The managers of the new establishments do not take as much interest in the forums as myself and The Duchess do so perhaps there is lays the problem. My advice, if you have the time and the inclination is a constructive email direct to the management outlining your concerns, evidencing them with times, facts and offering your opinion on how they might improve things in the future.

Having managed girls (call it pimping if you like haters out there) it is very difficult to dictate services. The basic requirements are a full personal and reverse oral. Everything else is at the ladies discretion, they chop and change their services like the weather. They may offer CIM in the morning, see a client in the afternoon who doesn't get CIM then when you question it they say they've decided they're not doing it anymore.
We have sacked girls for 'poor service' but only 8-10 in 9 years. The busier girls also tend to be the biggest Divas too, with success comes a swelling of the Ego (I too suffer from this condition, I know it's hard to believe). With a big Ego comes contempt and a feeling of invincibility which is normally ill placed in most cases. This makes for a awkward situation for agency owners dealing with their stars.

The best girls normally burn out quickly. Tell me 6upxxx who do you return to as a guaranteed great punt after your years of punting? If you cannot answer this then I would imagine she has retired which proves what I am saying. Devon was and to date still is the best girl to have worked at HoD, she would be booked solid 48 hours in advance which was unheard of before or after she left. However she only worked for 12 months in total and will never return. Emotionally she was wrecked, the difference with Devon was that she never let it show and retired on a high.

Hypothetically how would you if you were a agency manager address the issues you have raised? You've pointed them out and the owners will if they actually read this speak to the girls in the 'shower gate' episode but how would you enforce it to prevent it happening again?

6upxxx we have spoken in person before so you know we take customer care very seriously hence this reply, my intention is not to put you on the spot, your feedback and the other clients is invaluable to us.

Karl
I will try to give a more considered answer at length in due course. I know you take customer care seriously and that is a great strength. The point I will answer is that I do not have a "regular" at the moment. I suspect that there is "burn out" if you give a lot of yourself. you are aware of many of the girls I view as the girls who I enjoyed punting with the most. Within what I will call the HOD sphere this has been Natasha, Maria, Devon, Sally.
Recently both Kitty and Emma have been punts that I have enjoyed. Others that have been very good are Elise, Nina others that I forget...getting older!!
Yes te services vary but they all put in a convincing performance of equaly enjoying the time in the room, many also have the quality of making you believe you are remembered, that they enjoy your company as a human as well. Now I know that is not possible for all girls, putting up a barrier and doing it as another person, saving certain parts for personal relationships etc etc are all known defensive techniques.
How to improve it, maybe having more downtime between punts and also a maximum number of days working in a week. Possibly going back to new girls only doing MFF situations so that they can be under the eye of trusted regular girls. I think this was tried once. Just one final initial thought that maybe needs telling. It is not so much what they do during the sex as what they do at the other points that makes or breaks the punt. Initial greetings/kissings derobing. Mid event/after event interest in conversing and the cuddling/stroking/tactile behaviour etc.
A girl can be totaly vanilla and fairly inept at oral etc etc if she has the ability to treat the punter well/sexily during that lead up and the ability to handle that after event well, the punter will leave feeling like a king. This requires no additional effort from the girls apart from being nice and treating the guy well.

Offline House Of Divine

I notice all your favourite have retired or in Natasha's case are taking a break, the one exception being Sally who does have a poor attendance record as other clients will testify. There in lays the answer that great girl burn out quickly. Enforced breaks is an idea but the girl will not sit there kindly watching walk ins walk out if they're not available or listening to the maid telling clients they can't see her at 1:30 pm as she'll be on her break.

Interesting point about the bits in between and you're spot on. Most (not all) 20 somethings can fuck your brains out but they don't have much in the way of life skills, common sense or communication skills. The Hall of Fame members you mentioned, Devon and Maria were very good at this but as such they both managed to unfortunately acquire 'stalkers' who mistook their tactile skills for real emotions and fell in love with them. This puts added emotional strain on the girl causing burn out much more quickly.

Having a mentor again is a great idea. Mrs D (aka Robyn in her working days) has tried to help girls and give them advice in the past but all to no avail. The likes of Dita and Katie in MK at present are rising stars but it remains to be seen if they've listened to advice that's been given. We know what YOU the clients want but it's another thing convincing the girls that.

Offline what-a man

I totally agree with you HOD, its a bit difficult at times for you owners as the girls are adults and you cannot force them to adhere to your advise. They can do what they like as long as it does not impact on your business  and as the saying goes you can lead the horse to the stream but you cannot force it to drink. Good Post!!!

Offline softlad

I totally agree with you HOD, its a bit difficult at times for you owners as the girls are adults and you cannot force them to adhere to your advise. They can do what they like as long as it does not impact on your business  and as the saying goes you can lead the horse to the stream but you cannot force it to drink. Good Post!!!

They can potentially earn vast amounts for little or no commitment.

In the real world where people/punters are struggling to earn a living, these un professional ones wouldn't last two minutes.

Goes without saying, they aren't all like that.


Offline House Of Divine

They can potentially earn vast amounts for little or no commitment.

In the real world where people/punters are struggling to earn a living, these un professional ones wouldn't last two minutes.

Goes without saying, they aren't all like that.



Therein lies the problem. Girls are self employed, no agency worth it's salt can or will force a girl to work certain hours, see so many clients etc etc. It is all done with mutual consent. A 22 year old girl earns £500 on Tuesday, her mates are going shopping at the Westfield on Wednesday but she's due to be in MK working in a brothel. What do you think she'll do when she knows she can work on Thursday and earn £500 again ????

The same can be said in regards to customer care. Yes if she looks after client A then he may spend £2000 on her in the course of the next 12 months but with clients B C D E F etc etc all booked in then what does it matter if she pisses Client A off? Totally wrong and as you say in the real world of commerce and industry totally unacceptable but clients A-Z are thinking with their penis and have been since the dawn of time. Not wishing to offend anyone but they'll always be mercenary girls and mercenary agencies exploiting this basic human function to the max.



Offline softlad

Therein lies the problem. Girls are self employed, no agency worth it's salt can or will force a girl to work certain hours, see so many clients etc etc. It is all done with mutual consent. A 22 year old girl earns £500 on Tuesday, her mates are going shopping at the Westfield on Wednesday but she's due to be in MK working in a brothel. What do you think she'll do when she knows she can work on Thursday and earn £500 again ????

The same can be said in regards to customer care. Yes if she looks after client A then he may spend £2000 on her in the course of the next 12 months but with clients B C D E F etc etc all booked in then what does it matter if she pisses Client A off? Totally wrong and as you say in the real world of commerce and industry totally unacceptable but clients A-Z are thinking with their penis and have been since the dawn of time. Not wishing to offend anyone but they'll always be mercenary girls and mercenary agencies exploiting this basic human function to the max.



All absolutely true, it just leads to frustration all around, from employer to client.
Whats more, I couldn't even begin to suggest how to change things....... Toughie

All absolutely true, it just leads to frustration all around, from employer to client.
Whats more, I couldn't even begin to suggest how to change things....... Toughie

Stepford prossies? YUK 

No other way, I guess, so let's celebrate their individuality (assuming they answer the phone, turn up, actually deliver the services listed, etc)

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Offline House Of Divine

Perhaps an agency offering 'Real Dolls'. Be efficient, no lateness, no tatty copies of Heat and Chat laying around, no PMT, no crappy excuses, no chewing gum stuck everywhere and all I would need is a steam cleaner to clean up afterwards.


All you'd need would be an air compressor and baby wipes ;-)

And get some good mags in:  The Economist, The Spectator, New Scientist, Private Eye...

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Offline Lamorak

Perhaps an agency offering 'Real Dolls'. Be efficient, no lateness, no tatty copies of Heat and Chat laying around, no PMT, no crappy excuses, no chewing gum stuck everywhere and all I would need is a steam cleaner to clean up afterwards.

Here you go, a bit on the pricey side though

http://www.realdoll.com/



Offline Jacob

Maybe should get in on the ground floor.

Cute J-Girl Robot in Tokyo

Always remember the android 'Andrea' from Star Trek TOS, James T fell for her. It could well be the face of the future along with flying cars.



http://scifiblock.com/blog/robert-ring/learning-to-love-star-trek-part-13.htm

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Offline Jerboa

She looks like Mrs D !!! Scary

Has your Mrs got a sideline you don't know about? :)




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