What to say in a second email to a provider

[Turnips]

Hi there,
I'm new to this forum and potentially the hobby itself.  Lots of really good questions and answers on here, I've been paying lots of attention. However, a quick question I pose to you all is;

I've messaged a girl on AW, she's replied with interest. Now, I am about to write a second message to her to arrange a meet and I want to make a request as what I would also like to occur in a session (all is well within her list of preferences, btw). Is it legally dodgy/poor form to mention this in a typed AW message to her or is it wiser to call her on my punting phone and casually work these little requests into the conversation, instead?

I am still concerned whether explicitly referencing my request in writing would be legally dodgy, &/or just poor form. I'm keen to not cause trouble for myself or make the girl feel uncomfortable. For reference, I am definitely looking for a sweet GFE. I do find baths and wet clothing to be especially fun and erotic, so this scenario plus a suggestion of an outfit is the request to her. Its not this actual fetish that I'm concerned about, its the actual making request of it and doing it right.

Any advice useful, thanks! 

 

[Rockhead]

I have no problem in saying such stuff in an AW message. Some guys do prefer to phone, but I'm more into messaging etc. Just keep it brief and polite. Don't expect her to reply in detail - she'll probably just confirm that all is ok. In your case, she may or may not wish to get wet, but she'll almost certainly be happy to accommodate any reasonable clothing requests. Don't worry about making her feel uncomfortable - she's an escort, she's heard it all before, and it's not as if you're asking for anything ridiculously OTT.

[Happyjose]

Hi there,
I'm new to this forum and potentially the hobby itself.  Lots of really good questions and answers on here, I've been paying lots of attention. However, a quick question I pose to you all is;

I've messaged a girl on AW, she's replied with interest. Now, I am about to write a second message to her to arrange a meet and I want to make a request as what I would also like to occur in a session (all is well within her list of preferences, btw). Is it legally dodgy/poor form to mention this in a typed AW message to her or is it wiser to call her on my punting phone and casually work these little requests into the conversation, instead?

I am still concerned whether explicitly referencing my request in writing would be legally dodgy, &/or just poor form. I'm keen to not cause trouble for myself or make the girl feel uncomfortable. For reference, I am definitely looking for a sweet GFE. I do find baths and wet clothing to be especially fun and erotic, so this scenario plus a suggestion of an outfit is the request to her. Its not this actual fetish that I'm concerned about, its the actual making request of it and doing it right.

Any advice useful, thanks! 

Why would it be legally dodgy?

[yorkshire123]

Be direct, be polite & stop being a fucking wet flannel, she can only say no

[Turnips]

Thanks for that Rockhead, and it's good to hear other people use the messaging service for that. Nope, its pretty vanilla really. I've been really polite and warm in the first message, so even if its not her bag, at least she shouldn't be offended or annoyed.

Your reply has also made me chuckle that I'm taking advice about punting off of Dougal McGuire, of all people.  So, cheers for that too. 

 "Well, who cares, anyway? They strip the wallpaper, fumigate the place and they're gone.
 What's so bad about that?"

Dougal's failure to correctly grasp the concept of Bishops always cracks me up.

[Rockhead]

Thanks for that Rockhead, and it's good to hear other people use the messaging service for that. Nope, its pretty vanilla really. I've been really polite and warm in the first message, so even if its not her bag, at least she shouldn't be offended or annoyed.

Your reply has also made me chuckle that I'm taking advice about punting off of Dougal McGuire, of all people.  So, cheers for that too. 

 "Well, who cares, anyway? They strip the wallpaper, fumigate the place and they're gone.
 What's so bad about that?"

Dougal's failure to correctly grasp the concept of Bishops always cracks me up.

That's it exactly. If Father Dougal can manage it, so can you.

"How's your bra?" etc

[Happyjose]

and without wanting to offend, think about your writing style when sending emails to prossies.

Consider what Yorks says. Here you sound a bit like a Victorian serial killer

[Turnips]

Happyjose:

Due to this idea that "you're paying for her time and companionship only" and not anything sexual. So a message with an obvious connection to a sexual fetish would be solid evidence of sexual intent. I understand that using that classic sentence (above) wouldn't actually clear you in court, and use of an escort website in itself is "damning" enough.

But... my reasoning is that - with punting - the less said overtly stated in writing and the less that is physically traceable of the deed and transaction, the better. Punting seems to be a "as long as you do it 99% discreetly, its acceptable", sort of thing.

Hence wondering whether a phone convo was the don't thing, as opposed to written messages. I'm assuming I am being too cautious though?

[Happyjose]

Happyjose:

Due to this idea that "you're paying for her time and companionship only" and not anything sexual. So a message with an obvious connection to a sexual fetish would be solid evidence of sexual intent. I understand that using that classic sentence (above) wouldn't actually clear you in court, and use of an escort website in itself is "damning" enough.

But... my reasoning is that - with punting - the less said overtly stated in writing and the less that is physically traceable of the deed and transaction, the better. Punting seems to be a "as long as you do it 99% discreetly, its acceptable", sort of thing.

Hence wondering whether a phone convo was the don't thing, as opposed to written messages. I'm assuming I am being too cautious though?

Think you're a bit confused about legal issues, amongst other things. Have a read of the punting wiki and come back enlightened

[Turnips]

"Consider what Yorks says. Here you sound a bit like a Victorian serial killer"

Haha, yes I do have a rather formal writing style, always been like that. I'm not actually a pretentious person (or a Victorian serial killer in fact). I also watch and read a lot of costume drama though, including Ripper Street. Actually, that's not helping is it. 

Yep, I was expecting that my question would come across as a bit too cautious and wussy. But I'd rather ask the question anyway and be sure. As a newbie with anything, I don't assume anything and I do my research, so that's what I'm doing atm. This forum answers most of the other questions really well, and the rest of the experience pretty much rests on using common sense and having a decent enough personality. 

Yes, I've read the punting wiki and many other sources on the web. Including an updated infographic on where in the world punting is legal/illegal, etc. All useful stuff, just wanted to be 100% sure by speaking you guys first. Firsthand knowledge is often the best. Cheers for clearing that up, guys. 

[GBush]

I do reverse bookings on AW and I've learned to Just say what I want. OWO, CIM, Deep throat, sex in multiple positions, anal sex.

It's an appointment with a service provider not a date. She would much rather know what you want. Especially if she is trying to build her business based on repeat business.

[vw]

I'm not actually a pretentious person (or a Victorian serial killer in fact).

Time will tell, if you are a Victorian serial killer the red reviews here would be better punting for you !   

[CatBBW]

Paying for sexual services is LEGAL here in UK.

As long as your request email isn't a long essay or script, then you should be fine. (Long-winded emails are usually a sign that the guy is a timewaster, weirdo, or wank-banking.)

[Turnips]

Well, I can imagine time-travelling Victorian serial killers have probably naffed-off back home to the dimly lit 1880s anyway (hopefully). Street lighting and CCTV and organised police would be too much of a pain. So I'm probably not going to surprise anyone on here, or bring confused historians, or the Old Bill and their enquiries down on this forum. S'all good.

Everything else seems pretty straight-forward regarding transaction and experience, and the rest of the replies to this post are as expected, so thanks for the clarification, chaps. Should be plain-sailing from now on then. She seems really cool, excellent ratings, and so far our brief messages have gone well. I'll keep them brief and see how it goes when we meet up. 

 
 

[vw]

Well, I can imagine time-travelling Victorian serial killers have probably naffed-off back home to the dimly lit 1880s anyway (hopefully). Street lighting and CCTV and organised police would be too much of a pain. So I'm probably not going to surprise anyone on here, or bring confused historians, or the Old Bill and their enquiries down on this forum. S'all good.

Everything else seems pretty straight-forward regarding transaction and experience, and the rest of the replies to this post are as expected, so thanks for the clarification, chaps. Should be plain-sailing from now on then. She seems really cool, excellent ratings, and so far our brief messages have gone well. I'll keep them brief and see how it goes when we meet up. 

Did you require DFK ?

[cueball]

I do reverse bookings on AW and I've learned to Just say what I want. OWO, CIM, Deep throat, sex in multiple positions, anal sex.

+1... mention all your likes

Tell her your dislikes too.... drugs/alcohol etc etc, I do, then she's not surprised when I walk because she's out of her head or pissed or not showered or whatever

[Happyjose]

Your next message should be to make booking, the one after that to thank her if she confirms

Anything more and you'll be down as a timewaster

[GBush]

+1... mention all your likes

Tell her your dislikes too.... drugs/alcohol etc etc, I do, then she's not surprised when I walk because she's out of her head or pissed or not showered or whatever

That's a great idea. I will add my dislikes in future

[threechilliman]

Be direct, be polite & stop being a fucking wet flannel, she can only say no

I'll second these comments. Being polite is paramount. I once wasn't and the lady in question refused to see me.

OP, just tell her what you're looking for - it makes it easier for her if she doesn't have to guess what you're after. Experienced girls prefer to know up front then they can deliver exactly what you want and structure the session for you.

tcm

[cockneybstrd]

I reckon you should just say 'I wish to drain my turnips all over your visage is that an extra luv?'

[GBush]

I'll second these comments. Being polite is paramount. I once wasn't and the lady in question refused to see me.

OP, just tell her what you're looking for - it makes it easier for her if she doesn't have to guess what you're after. Experienced girls prefer to know up front then they can deliver exactly what you want and structure the session for you.

tcm

The voice of an experienced punter who seems to get what he wants!!

[uutarn]

"Consider what Yorks says. Here you sound a bit like a Victorian serial killer"

Haha, yes I do have a rather formal writing style, always been like that. I'm not actually a pretentious person (or a Victorian serial killer in fact).

Ha i respect that and i try to do the same, especially in an unfamiliar environment.
I have learned many things during my short stay here and one of them is "say it like it is", including dealing with WG's.

Its like any business... you go to the hairdresser for example, you state what haircut you want, as long as its concise and polite. The worst you will get is a "i don't do that."

Its all a learning curve mate, embrace it; you won't go far wrong man trust me.

[Hank Moody]

Well, I can imagine time-travelling Victorian serial killers have probably naffed-off back home to the dimly lit 1880s anyway (hopefully). Street lighting and CCTV and organised police would be too much of a pain. So I'm probably not going to surprise anyone on here, or bring confused historians, or the Old Bill and their enquiries down on this forum. S'all good.

Everything else seems pretty straight-forward regarding transaction and experience, and the rest of the replies to this post are as expected, so thanks for the clarification, chaps. Should be plain-sailing from now on then. She seems really cool, excellent ratings, and so far our brief messages have gone well. I'll keep them brief and see how it goes when we meet up. 

I would echo the advice already given.Just keep it brief and polite. If you ask rather than demand (which I am sure you would) you have no problems. The worst she can say is 'no'. If you want to check that she does offer the things on her 'enjoys' list there may be a review of her on here that you can check. With regards to the bath/wet clothing request it may depend if she has other bookings later as she may not want to get her hair wet (as someone else said). They do always like to make sure you are clean though so maybe you could ask if it would be ok to shower together at the start of the booking.

[DoberManic]

I reckon you should just say 'I wish to drain my turnips all over your visage is that an extra luv?'

or you could go all street;  "I'd like to pressure wash my quiver bone in your gut locker!" 

[ChineseMassageNewbie]

Hi Turnips,

As you will have read in the wiki, it is legal for two consenting, over 18 year olds, to exchange money for sex. So no need to avoid any "evidence" on your message.

I'm quite new to this myself, but on two occasions I have send a long polite message requesting my wants (clothing and activities) for a first meeting, and received a fairly short "yes" or "no problem" reply.

But both times, when I got there, they weren't dressed as I had asked, and I had the impression that they had forgotten my other requests - asking me what I would like to do. But once we discussed, they were happy to oblige.

I put this down to the fact that they get loads of messages everyday and don't have time to respond fully, or remember all of them (and some enquirys might be time wasters, so not worth the effort of remembering them all).

What I did find was that on the second booking (only a week later with each) they were dressed as I requested when I arrived, and remembered my interests.

So my advice is, yes, put it all in a message (as short a message as possible) but this is only to check that they will be okay with your requests. You will probably have to discuss/remind them when you get there.

Also keep in mind that English may not be their first language, and they may find it hard work reading a long message. - Another good reason to keep it short.

Enjoy your first booking!

[ChineseMassageNewbie]

PS: I've just tried to PM you, but get the message:

User 'Turnips' can not receive personal messages.

Have you got PM's turned off, or does anyone know if there is now a restriction on PM's to new members?

[DoberManic]

PS: I've just tried to PM you, but get the message:

User 'Turnips' can not receive personal messages.

Have you got PM's turned off, or does anyone know if there is now a restriction on PM's to new members?

I think there must be a restriction, as I don't have the PM facility either?

[PLeisure]

there is now a restriction on PM's to new members?

Correct