Nostalgia for old school punting, anyone?

[KingAlpha]

When I first started punting about 15 years ago a lot of the business was still on street rather than online. Mostly the punts were average to rubbish, but there were occasional gems (sometimes amateurs), and even a duff punt wasn't too much of a let down if you'd enjoyed and hour or two of cruising round looking. Thrill of the chase and all that. A bit like being in your own private movie.

Of course you can spend hours patrolling AW etc online, but its not exactly the same buzz, besides which half the profiles seem to be scammers or bull. In my experience a duff web punt is usually a complete waste of time and money. At least on the street what you saw was what you got, more or less.

Obviously times have changed, and there's no end of valid social and safety reasons why street prostitution is no longer particularly acceptable. Plus I can't imagine why any half-decent WG would go on street rather than online. I'm not saying it was any kind of golden age, but does anyone else occasionally hanker after a bit of old school, quick and dirty punting?

[Lowie1973]

Yep - I can associate with this sentiment. It was filthy and wrong in many ways - but also great fun.
I remember driving around the stadium in Ipswich to pick up a girl (before some fucker started murdering them)
I have a found memory of a real stunner who took me to a car park and just stood over my car bonnet in the glare of my headlights and let me fuck her arse quick and dirty. I must have cum in less than a minute - but 20 years later I still get hard on the memory!!
These days I'd be caught on CCTV and nicked !

[jimbm55]

I started punting pre-internet!!  Walk ups in Mayfair (always a lottery) and ads in newspapers where you phoned a number and someone described the girls!! The internet is full of scams but having access to reviews, Tin Eye and places like this has improved the quality of my punts beyond measure.

[Bud$]

I do kind of miss the days when there were plenty of flats around. As the OP says, but was the thrill of the search. Maybe go to one, have a look at the girl and move on or stay. They were not too far from each other in those days (10 - 20 yrs ago) and they advertised in the papers. I found a few good ones (flats) and some favourite girls who might be there on some days and go back. Once the owner got to know me as a regular I'd often wait, have a cuppa and a chat, and a few times had nights out with them and a girl or two. It seems more clinical now, more regimented - a bit like shopping has become - quite a lot now on the internet and it just gets delivered. I don't experience the un-expected that much any more and could give examples but here's just one. I walked into a place where I'd been before and the girl was busy. I'd not seen the 'maid' before but I did fancy her. Anyway, I said I wanted her. She took some persuading but gave in eventually. Slim, large knockers, cigar butt nipples. It was so much more exciting having her in the living room, on a chair, the floor, the settee, than just in the bedroom and the 'chase' was good too.

[wombat]

Back in the late 80's as a teenager/early twenties I regularly used the Soho walk ups. Nowadays i'm freshly showered and teeth cleaned etc for a punt - back then i'd endure an hour's train and tube journey, not to mention spend ages walking round the area before picking one to go up to. In the summer I must have been sweaty and none too appealing - but the ladies saw me anyway - not sure the indies I see now would be so forgiving.
On the other of this though is that the girls in the walk ups only ever seemed to wipe themselves down with tissues etc, has that even changed??

Conclusion: better off in modern times for this hobby.

[vw]

I miss walking the streets and alleyway sex in a way, it was so out there.  How things have moved on !

[cueball]

Conclusion: better off in modern times for this hobby.

Definitely

The old days of bradford street girls and ad's in the paper are long gone for me and never to return..

No nostalgia here.

[claretandblue]

If any of you guys are ever in London pop into soho, ok it's a pump and dump experience but is probably the safest and most closely related punting opportunity left which is similar to what you have described.

[KingAlpha]

Bud$ is spot on. I miss that element of the unexpected.

[johnnyboy61]

Scanning the back pages of the local rag for the briefest of descriptions and phone numbers, phoning from a telephone box down the road, waiting for the door to open with no idea of what you were going to be greeted by, no proper kissing or OWO. No thanks, I wouldn't want to go back to those days.

[GreyDave]

  Noooooo!!

Its great now you can find what you fancey on line or as i did in the sport or local classified ads ..

When I started 35 years ago walk ups were ....£10- 15 now they are £20-30 house prices 25k now 500k
shagging has come down in price and up in variety I rekon I have shagged girls from most of the main parts of the world and not left Greater London

[Clarkson]

Parlours were all rules where alocated times and a menu of services so I never went. 

The girls you found on the streets or in mags were the real indies in them days and it was just a price for a session no time limits and you got what you wanted apart from things they didn't like to do. So if a girl didn't like anal ok but if owo was ok she would do it in the price not extra etc.   

I think the internet and adultwank has fucking spoild it now because all indies are on time limits and want extra for this and extra for that I'm sick of it honestly.   

Its worse than a fucking producer who can't microwave a steak on time.  Now I look on places like gumtree and backpage for indies like the old days and there is still some out in the open places if you know where to look.    

[rubric]

I think pre internet things were actually fairly grim, unless you got lucky with the particular parlours in your area.

I do think - personally - that the high point was the initial eastern european invasion - late 90s to mid 00s.  There were suddenly loads of pretty girls who - maybe due to the filtering experience of travel abroad being recent - were generally reasonably intelligent, and open minded.

Since then the quality has definitely gone downhill, as everything has got over commercialised and rising rents mean that more girls tend to work together in the same flat - which imply some kind of organiser/fixer figure, and the girls themselves tend not to be exceptional in the way they were back then.

Of course, I was also younger at the time, but I think it's an accurate perception, based on my memories how awful it was before then.

[Juankerr]

Scanning the back pages of the local rag for the briefest of descriptions and phone numbers, phoning from a telephone box down the road, waiting for the door to open with no idea of what you were going to be greeted by, no proper kissing or OWO. No thanks, I wouldn't want to go back to those days.

+1
The vast majority of my shit punting experiences came back in those days from having to do exactly what johnnyboy has described. Thank god for the internet!!

[vw]

+1
The vast majority of my shit punting experiences came back in those days from having to do exactly what johnnyboy has described. Thank god for the internet!!

Don't you have nostalgia about fucking a ho over a council dustbin, thinking of getting one from architectural salvage for the garden to recreate the good old days.

[macmate]

It's scary thinking about what I got up to back then - the full spectrum from skanks to genuine indies, there was no quality control back then. We're in a much better position these days, no looking back now.

[Diehard]

When I first started punting about 15 years ago a lot of the business was still on street rather than online. Mostly the punts were average to rubbish, but there were occasional gems (sometimes amateurs), and even a duff punt wasn't too much of a let down if you'd enjoyed and hour or two of cruising round looking. Thrill of the chase and all that. A bit like being in your own private movie.

Of course you can spend hours patrolling AW etc online, but its not exactly the same buzz, besides which half the profiles seem to be scammers or bull. In my experience a duff web punt is usually a complete waste of time and money. At least on the street what you saw was what you got, more or less.

Obviously times have changed, and there's no end of valid social and safety reasons why street prostitution is no longer particularly acceptable. Plus I can't imagine why any half-decent WG would go on street rather than online. I'm not saying it was any kind of golden age, but does anyone else occasionally hanker after a bit of old school, quick and dirty punting?

Totally relate to this. I started punting 11 years ago through adverts in the paper then I found AW.now though I don't find a buzz seeing a hooker, it's such a common acceptable thing to do that I don't even feel self conscious going to their place or a hotel. There is no buzz.

I crave that buzz, that butterfly in the stomach moment. I want to fuck some english street whore but sadly the only ones I see look like they are heroin addicts.

I just think like you say those days are long gone. I enjoyed reading some of the old timers stories on here about 80s and 90s punting, wish those guys would keep it up and tell us about the great street hookers they saw,

[Chuckman]

When I first started in the early '90s I was reliant on the small ads in the local papers and paying £30-40 for a half hour which involved no kissing and OWO was very much the exception rather than the rule. If you wanted that it was very much the domain of the street scene which was a lot more prevalent.

The woman were disinterested and the service lackluster. Once thing which hasn't changed is the parlor scene, it's still as crap now as it was then.

AW has definitely improved the quality of my punts by offering me more options than were previously available pictures of the WGs (usually accurate..) places where they are located and so on. While it is nice to take a trip down memory lane I certainly prefer it now to how it was.

[Ben4454]

I entered the punting scene just after most of the street walkers had gone. I wish I could of been there to punt in those days!

Anyone have a time machine ? Let me have a go.

[vw]

I entered the punting scene just after most of the street walkers had gone. I wish I could of been there to punt in those days!

Anyone have a time machine ? Let me have a go.

He got banned, the tombola aspect was similar to gambling buzz, had some bad and had some very good. 

[Hydrant]

I started punting as a kerb-crawler in 1983, first in Stoke then in Liverpool, then all over the place – Manchester, Birmingham, all the red-light zones of London – with lots of pedestrian encounters in and around Kings Cross too.

I seem to recall the ratio of sexy times to shit times was about 70/30, which is probably about the same as now with UK Punting, Adultwork and all the rest of the world wide wonders we have at our disposal. The OP is right in saying that the thrill of driving (or walking) around a seriously dodgy area with the risk of getting your collar felt (happened twice -- just warnings both times) or mugged (once – gave the big bad knife-wielding black guy £20 and sweet-talked him out of taking my bag) was incomparably greater than the engrossing, time-consuming but ultimately dry and solitary process of online research.

I fucked some incredibly horny girls, some incredibly skanky girls, one or two amazing beauties, risked bareback in both holes (pre-Aids panic) with several girls, and got involved in all kinds of mini-dramas with them. I smoked crack in Camden Town with one out-of-it black whore at 4am. Luckily, it did nothing for me. Two teenage junkie hookers even started fighting over me when I went back to one flat near Kings Cross.

I did try parlours and newspaper small ads a few times, but the hit rate was much lower. I much preferred the thrill of the street.

If all of this suddenly became possible again I don't think I'd have the appetite or stamina for it now at the age of 59. But I'm sure as hell glad I did it all way back when!

[DG]

Glad I'm a new age man and have only punted in the digital age. From a security point of view I'm even starting to get very nervous about booking girls who share an apartment, due to the risk of brothel raids. A nice independent girl working on her own, selected from the comfort of my armchair works for me every time. Once upon a time we only had 3 channels on the telly; who wants to go back to that?

[Bud$]

Glad I'm a new age man and have only punted in the digital age. From a security point of view I'm even starting to get very nervous about booking girls who share an apartment, due to the risk of brothel raids. A nice independent girl working on her own, selected from the comfort of my armchair works for me every time. Once upon a time we only had 3 channels on the telly; who wants to go back to that?

On the other hand that was part of the excitement - the risk. I agree with you about the only 3 channels comment, so why not not have more flats, brothels; that would increase choice, wouldn't it? Agencies, Indies, Flats, brothels = more choice; similar, but not the same, to what you can have in Thailand - freelancers picked up on the Beach Rd, in clubs or even restaurants, bar girls, go-go girls, massage girls and then there's the Devil's Den.

[Clarkson]

When I started 35 years ago walk ups were ....£10- 15 now they are £20-30 house prices 25k now 500k
shagging has come down in price

 

I get the pro rata with house prices but that's London not the same everywhere else.  Some years ago a good shagging session was £20 with a fit young 18 - 25 year old who didn't want extra for kissing extra for OWO or anything else and it took as long as it fucking took.   

Now it's £60 minimum for 30 minutes or £100 on an hour on a timed punt with extra for everything it's like buying a German car by the time it's loaded up it's twice the fucking price. Some guys pay extra for fuck all and leave tips so they'll get favoured treatment which is such a crock of shit it's fucking demented. Giving them tips and more just gives them Muff Over-Value Syndrome so they put the prices up or give a shit service to genuine non-tippers.  Shagging is definitely not cheaper outside London it's a lot dearer and to my mind the service is usually not as good as it was back then.   

[willbred]

I entered the punting scene just after most of the street walkers had gone. I wish I could of been there to punt in those days!

Anyone have a time machine ? Let me have a go.

I ain't got a time machine, but some punts feel like you've travelled to 'em in one. You book, the girl's 23...you get there she's aged 30 years in 20 minutes   

[rogercock00]

I didn't punt like the old days here (bit too young then) but it does sound pretty similar to my lesser experiences of that time in buying top shelf mags - I went from plucking up the courage as a teenager to casing the joint (newsagent) for a quiet period, walking past, in, out, in and then buying quickly only to see the dithery old seller hold it up aloft and say £2 please loudly so all customers could see and hear.

I then progressed, after a complete fluke encounter got me horny, to purposefully targeting newsagents with fit lasses behind the counter and handing them the raggy mag slowly while eyeballing them as they obviously thought "what a dirty wanker" whilst secretly getting moist themselves. I on the other hand would walk out with a boner and was always guaranteed a long glare from them as I looked back going through the door. I do miss the thrill of those days 

[itk]

When I first started punting about 15 years ago a lot of the business was still on street rather than online. Mostly the punts were average to rubbish, but there were occasional gems (sometimes amateurs), and even a duff punt wasn't too much of a let down if you'd enjoyed and hour or two of cruising round looking. Thrill of the chase and all that. A bit like being in your own private movie.

Of course you can spend hours patrolling AW etc online, but its not exactly the same buzz, besides which half the profiles seem to be scammers or bull. In my experience a duff web punt is usually a complete waste of time and money. At least on the street what you saw was what you got, more or less.

Obviously times have changed, and there's no end of valid social and safety reasons why street prostitution is no longer particularly acceptable. Plus I can't imagine why any half-decent WG would go on street rather than online. I'm not saying it was any kind of golden age, but does anyone else occasionally hanker after a bit of old school, quick and dirty punting?

Totally 100% agree. Would love to return to the old days, found it more of a thrill pre-punt. I did start a thread on here about my experiences in the 90's, not entirely sure how to link it to here though.

[JohnWaynesJism]

I had an old school experience in Soho recently, I was near the entrance to Walkers Court (by the old Raymond Revue Bar) and heading down Brewer St, when I saw a young pretty girl (20`s) and gave her a smile. She walked up to me and said "are you looking for business?" Blimey, it`s been years since I`ve been asked that in Soho!
 There always used to be a skanky looking skinny black woman, who hung around the same area years ago, she would approach any single looking men asking the same thing. I feel sorry for anyone who took her up on the offer.
 I must admit, I was tempted with this new one to at least find out what the scam was that she was offering, and then tell her "no thanks" after I`d heard her spiel. I saw her run after after a guy in his 50`s or more, as he`d obviously given her the eye, she was chatting with him for a good few mins. I was tempted to go up to him and say "don't do it mate, it`s a scam!" He walked though, so I assume she wasn`t successful. Almost makes me feel nostalgic!

[JohnWaynesJism]

In addition, pre internet the cards in the phone boxes in London were my lucky dip punts, met a few real crackers from those too. Always made me laugh when they have some pic of a model from a wank mag, and you ask "is it the girl in the pic?" and of course they would always say yes.
 Funnily enough, I did meet a very hot young Indian girl near Marble Arch, she was 20`s and stunning, and gave me a great time. I then realised I`d seen her in one of the Asian Babes porn mags, so they weren`t all fakes, just 99% of them! 

[leisuretime]

My first experiences was the street scene around Balsall Heath in the mid 80's. It was a bit rough and I did have one girl run off with my £15 but it was great fun. Not unusual to see 30 plus girls out on a single night, then there was the legendary windows in Cheddar Road where girls would sit in the windows in thier scanties trying to entice you inside.
The road running adjacent to it Court Road was slightly different as the girls would stand in open door ways bra, knickers and high heels.
I picked up some crackers off the street and many would take you back to a house or flat so no awkward shagging in the back of the car.
You got to know who would be out when and where they would be, no mobile phones.
I remember a blonde who would stand on Speedwell Road who would wear a T Shirt with 'Boy Toy' emblazoned across here breasts, she lived in the flats on that road and would happily take you in there.
There was another blode who would stand on the corner of George Street wearing a basque, knickers, stockings and heels with a long mac over the top and on the opposite corner Park Road a tall brunette who the first time I stopped asked for £20 I told her it was a bit steep and was about to drive off when she cheekily said "You don't know what your missing" admiring her cheek I took her up on the offer and parted with my £20 and went off to her house. That was the night I discovered what a proper shag was, an hour later I was like a rag doll she had drained the life out of me. Her name was Zoe and I saw her regulary after that.

I think it was that quite a few of the girls were just ordinary girls.

Then what happened I think it was the BBC and Panarama did a documentry on the area, the residents, police and council got together and cleared up the area spoiling it for everyone.

[Horizontal pleasures]

I loved the contact mags for mature amateurs, and the newspaper ads for the same, happy to walk if we did not click. Yes tried the streets and the walkups and the parlours, and best of all Cynthia Payne's parties.

[howrude]

I briefly tried out street girls many years ago but it wan't very enjoyable. I was worried about getting caught. And for a girl to be out on the street in the elements wasn't the best gaurentee for an enjoyable punt. I prefered somewhere warm and indoors where we could both strip off as opposed to being confined in a car. I didn't punt for many years and then in the late 90s I discovered the parlour scene. The internet helps in that you can see what type of girl you're getting but in the past, I got to see a few girls based on telephone descriptions who were sensational. The ones who if I saw a picture of them, I might not have picked as they're tits weren't big enough or something. But things are generally better nowadays.

[KingAlpha]

My first experiences was the street scene around Balsall Heath in the mid 80's. It was a bit rough and I did have one girl run off with my £15 but it was great fun. Not unusual to see 30 plus girls out on a single night, then there was the legendary windows in Cheddar Road where girls would sit in the windows in thier scanties trying to entice you inside.
The road running adjacent to it Court Road was slightly different as the girls would stand in open door ways bra, knickers and high heels.
I picked up some crackers off the street and many would take you back to a house or flat so no awkward shagging in the back of the car.
You got to know who would be out when and where they would be, no mobile phones.
I remember a blonde who would stand on Speedwell Road who would wear a T Shirt with 'Boy Toy' emblazoned across here breasts, she lived in the flats on that road and would happily take you in there.
There was another blode who would stand on the corner of George Street wearing a basque, knickers, stockings and heels with a long mac over the top and on the opposite corner Park Road a tall brunette who the first time I stopped asked for £20 I told her it was a bit steep and was about to drive off when she cheekily said "You don't know what your missing" admiring her cheek I took her up on the offer and parted with my £20 and went off to her house. That was the night I discovered what a proper shag was, an hour later I was like a rag doll she had drained the life out of me. Her name was Zoe and I saw her regulary after that.

I think it was that quite a few of the girls were just ordinary girls.

Then what happened I think it was the BBC and Panarama did a documentry on the area, the residents, police and council got together and cleared up the area spoiling it for everyone.

Oh for a time machine! 

[purple_t]

I am very glad AW has been around since before I was even an adult - I can't even imagine punting in the pre-digital age. I'm sure the increased risk was a good buzz but all in all I'm not a big fan of surprises. And no kissing + no OWO? Sounds pretty awful to me! I think had I been born 20 years earlier I would not have had the balls to punt with street girls... I may have tried out some of the parlours though

[Sparta Prada]

My very first contact with this hobby was at the gaming arcades in Wardour St in Central London, this would have been in the 80s. I used to go up there with some mates to play the machines, and occasionally you would get a girl start conversation with you. Sure enough the conversation would start veering towards if I wanted to have a session with the girl, and being a naive impressionable teenage schoolboy virgin I just asked what was involved! As me and my friends regularly took the tube up to play in the arcades she would always come by and chat with me. I still think she was a clipper rather than an actual provider. One time I did see her her face was bruised, I can only assume she either tried to trick the wrong person or her pimp/bf wasn't happy with her performance.

Of course I never followed through with this as it all felt a bit odd to me, but I still remember this particular girl's face like I saw her yesterday.