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Author Topic: Questions it is OK to ask a prossie  (Read 4174 times)

We've heard how some punters get abraded when over-friendly WGs start asking about profession, earnings, mortgage, family, etc.

...and I know that there can be some irritation going the other way.

So what general (not session-centric) subjects ARE fitting and proper for those inter-coital interludes or the get-to-know-you glass of wine beforehand?  And what is probably going to be off limits?

Probably not a good idea to ask your "date":  How did you get started fucking for money?  How many men have you had today/this week/this month/in your life?  Where did you get your tits done? 

;-)

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Offline Jimmyredcab

There is no "fixed rule" ----------- I have even met girls who tell me their real name, too many paranoid people in this business.

Offline Lady Poppy

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Music?  Politics? Religion?  hmmm... maybe not lol.  Let's just stick with music.


Who prices by position?!?!?!?  Is cowgirl and extra fiver?

Amen, JRC.  Lots of paranoia.  Having a real name is a gesture of genuine trust.

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Amen, JRC.  Lots of paranoia.  Having a real name is a gesture of genuine trust.


This is something I have never quite understood ---------- unless the lady has a very unusual name like Fifi-tinkerbelle how is she going to be "exposed" by revealing her real name. ????????

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This is something I have never quite understood ---------- unless the lady has a very unusual name like Fifi-tinkerbelle how is she going to be "exposed" by revealing her real name. ????????

She probably won't. But for a lot of ladies, telling you their real name is a very personal thing. So in a manner of speaking, it is down to trust. One question I hate hate hate..

What can I do for you?

No. Please don't ever ask that.

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I had a guy today ask me how I was still able to orgasm after all this time?  I looked at him puzzled and asked him how long he thought I had been escorting for?  Even if I had been doing it for years, I don't think anyone ever gets numb to orgasm... do they?

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A couple of things I should ask, but don't...

"How often do you clean your ringpiece?" and "I worry about coerced or trafficked women, will you sign this disclaimer?"

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This is something I have never quite understood ---------- unless the lady has a very unusual name like Fifi-tinkerbelle how is she going to be "exposed" by revealing her real name. ????????

Leverage, James, leverage.  If things go sour anonymity is a strong defence.

Also lots of girls live in fear that loved ones/future employers/etc will discover their secret life.  Their nom d'amour gives them additional insulation.

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She probably won't. But for a lot of ladies, telling you their real name is a very personal thing.


No more personal that sucking dick surely ------------ sorry I still don't get it. ???????????

Offline Jimmyredcab

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Leverage, James, leverage.  If things go sour anonymity is a strong defence.

James is my real name ---------- a very common name that I probably share with a million other guys in the world, my point is that if the girl tells me her real name is Carly how does that "expose" her true identity. ???????

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One question I hate hate hate..

What can I do for you?

No. Please don't ever ask that.

So Lucy .. pray tell .. why do you hate that ?

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So Lucy .. pray tell .. why do you hate that ?


 Is there any other service that you pay for and ask the person providing it 'Is there anything I can do for you?' ?

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No more personal that sucking dick surely ------------ sorry I still don't get it. ???????????


The way that many escorts/WG's separate their working life and their private life is by adopting a different persona for work. Hence, in many cases the name change. So if they were willing to share that information, you are being allowed into a private area.

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 One question I hate hate hate..

What can I do for you?

No. Please don't ever ask that.

 This question can have it's advantages dependent upon what trade and skills they have. I've managed some legal advice, several massages, a balancing of the 'Chi' and some lovely fruit and veg over the years to name but a few things.

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James is my real name ---------- a very common name that I probably share with a million other guys in the world, my point is that if the girl tells me her real name is Carly how does that "expose" her true identity. ???????

First names? Not a big deal, obviously.  Prob no reason except that some prossies like to pretend that services are provided by an alter-ego (a split personality). And that makes it clear in conversations "which one" you are talking to.  When I am talking about services/bookings/etc with my regular, I use her AW name.  If we are talking about non-punting topics I use her real name.  If I overlap, I get a mild ticking off ;-)

Last names?  Wellllll, there you have the key to open the rest of their private lives if you are a vengeful punter or homicidal maniac or just somebody with few social graces.

Sucking dick is surely personal for the punter but I guess just another integral part of a prossies' job.  Revealing her full name surely isn't.

I'm not defending the grrlz, I've just spent a bit of time pondering how they think and value things... helps me get better VFM if I don't constantly trip of obscure bits of etiquette.

For the record, I always use my real name in a punt... too many other things to think about ;-)

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First names? Not a big deal, obviously.  Prob no reason except that some prossies like to pretend that services are provided by an alter-ego (a split personality). And that makes it clear in conversations "which one" you are talking to. 

 Just out of interest what do you base your assumptions on that you can state  'prossies pretend that services are provided by an alter-ego' ?

Some, I said. 

I have met a few schizo WGs that had entirely different personalities for punting vs real world.  Moderately unhinged in a nice sort of way.  Not the kind of girl I would see regularly... and indeed they seem to not last long in the trade.

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A girl I saw a a regular for a couple of years before she retired and went back to Poland dealt with what she saw as the "problem" of being an escort was to be two different people. When escorting she was "Sophie" a sexy fun-loving girl happy to do all types of sexual service and thrilled to make so much money so easily. When not escorting she was Elena (her real name) a serious student of languages and not open to any sexual or even friendly approach from any man. She told me she became "Sophie" as soon as she booked on with her Agency and Elena as soon as she booked off. As far as she was concerned, these were two separate individuals. As we got friendlier and I took her out socially it was amazing to be at a theatre and a restaurant with Elena, only to find her turning into a completely different person as soon as we got back to my hotel. I found that I preferred Elena to Sophie as the first was good company and a great conversationalist, but the latter was rather a bubble-brain. Towards the end of our relationship I was gratified to find I was sleeping with Elena more than Sophie, which was less adventurous, but so much more sincere.

Offline Jimmyredcab

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The way that many escorts/WG's separate their working life and their private life is by adopting a different persona for work. Hence, in many cases the name change.


As Cheryl Cole would say "You've nailed it".

Girls think that they are only a prostitute when using their working name --------- and when they use their real name they are not.
Women are strange creatures, I will never understand them if I live to be 110.

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As Cheryl Cole would say "You've nailed it".

Girls think that they are only a prostitute when using their working name --------- and when they use their real name they are not.
Women are strange creatures, I will never understand them if I live to be 110.

I am working on it with you. I think we will get there but I am an incurable optimist.

Optimists tend to do rather well in public-facing jobs... not to mention groin facing ;-)

I don't know, Lucy, but this may well be either a biological or aculturative overlay (undoubtedly both!) on the female psyche and us guys, lacking those carefully estrogen-nurtured pathways and/or meaningful experiences, will just never get it viscerally (which is all some of us have to work with).  While it is possible to intellectualise that duality that works for some WGs, I/we will always get caught short with a knitted brow and quizzical expression when it rears its lovely head.

;-)

Stay optimistic... it feels better than the alternative.

I just watched "Chloe" again and the character's explanation of "how she does it" rings true.  This isn't just a auto-censoreding, my fav girl validated it.  Get the DVD as opposed to downloading it... the cut scenes and alternative endings are fascinating.  It's based on an earlier French film called Natalie (I'm getting it soon) and a book (ordered). 

It strikes me that this portion of my posting might belong in Off Topic so I will copy it there... but is still germane to issue at hand IMHO.

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Offline Lucy chambers

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So Lucy .. pray tell .. why do you hate that ?


Sorry, Wolfy, I missed this.

Because in my mind I am there to fulfill a role- my pleasure is secondary, and very rarely relevant. In fact, it would distract me.

Another reason is that if someone has to ask- the generally can't do. I am aware that some clients merely want to make sure that you like what they wish to do, but if they want an A-Z of how to make me come it probably won't happen, and I have no intention of faking anything.

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Optimists tend to do rather well in public-facing jobs... not to mention groin facing ;-)

I don't know, Lucy, but this may well be either a biological or aculturative overlay (undoubtedly both!) on the female psyche and us guys, lacking those carefully estrogen-nurtured pathways and/or meaningful experiences, will just never get it viscerally (which is all some of us have to work with).  While it is possible to intellectualise that duality that works for some WGs, I/we will always get caught short with a knitted brow and quizzical expression when it rears its lovely head.

;-)

Stay optimistic... it feels better than the alternative.

I just watched "Chloe" again and the character's explanation of "how she does it" rings true.  This isn't just a auto-censoreding, my fav girl validated it.  Get the DVD as opposed to downloading it... the cut scenes and alternative endings are fascinating.  It's based on an earlier French film called Natalie (I'm getting it soon) and a book (ordered). 

It strikes me that this portion of my posting might belong in Off Topic so I will copy it there... but is still germane to issue at hand IMHO.

AFoAF


I am going to have a nosy and see if I can find the DVD. It sounds interesting.

I understand what you mean when you say you are puzzled by the duality of some WG's. I think it is common, but what I have noticed (shoot me if you wish) is that it is the ladies who can do this who tend to be the most successful at moving on, post prostitution.


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