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sam1

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Any of my fellow punters ever feel guilty of using a young ladies body for your pleasure? No way of really knowing if she is being forced into this business against her will. I worry that the girl is desperately unhappy having to suck and fuck us old guys for lets face it not alot of money. I could not fuck some old fat bird for £2 a minute. Before she pays her pimp or expenses for using the property etc.Perhaps we should all think again if we should punt?

Offline lewisjones23

Fuck off to saafe or somewhere

Hope to god admin bans you for this shite

Offline finn5555

Get a grip Sam  :dash: :dash: if you think they are being trafficked then report to the police  :hi:

downwiththesickness

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I know I don't have much experience in punting yet, but I would assume you can tell the difference between most girls who are doing it and enjoy it, girls who are doing it just for cash or girls who are being forced into it. For example, the first girl i was with I had a chat with, she was telling me how much she enjoys it, told me about her other job, how selective she is about clients. She was also very passionate and enthusiastic about the sex.

If they are doing it because they love it, you get a better service and I don't feel guilty.

DogFace36

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  Only after the few occasions I've shagged a munter. ;)

Sureshot

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Not a bit.  99% of these birds are fully willing and consenting, the other 1% are easy to spot and avoid even before making a booking.

Your interpretation of "not a lot of money" vastly differs from mine.

downwiththesickness

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Your interpretation of "not a lot of money" vastly differs from mine.

Yeah, I forgot to mention that. I do agency work and a lot of these girls make much more in an hour what I make in a whole day!

Offline johnny34

Any of my fellow punters ever feel guilty of using a young ladies body for your pleasure?

No.  Only guilt or regret is when its a shit punt.

downwiththesickness

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I do have a lot of regret if I forgot to do something I wanted to do with a girl because i got carried away with other stuff...

Offline con-a-ser

Any of my fellow punters ever feel guilty of using a young ladies body for your pleasure? No way of really knowing if she is being forced into this business against her will. I worry that the girl is desperately unhappy having to suck and fuck us old guys for lets face it not alot of money. I could not fuck some old fat bird for £2 a minute. Before she pays her pimp or expenses for using the property etc.Perhaps we should all think again if we should punt?

No one can be 100% sure of this But I know that the top parlours where I feel safe in using take precautions to ensure the girls are working of there own free will & not been made to do so
ie look at the money they are making & see if they benefit from it
ieBoth Girl A & GirlB have worked four days & lifted over a £1000 + Extra's & Tips

Girl A is taking Driven Lessons, Just paid for her Hair done, bought new Shoes (4 pairs) & looking at Holidays on internet
Girl B as came to work & struggled to pay for the Taxi & hasn't enough money left for a Bacon Butty you have to ask yourself where as the money gone

But remember with some of these girls only have there Arse to sell & no real qualifications to made a good career
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« Last Edit: October 07, 2015, 06:06:54 pm by con-a-ser »

Offline two20

If your conscience is getting the better of you just leave a huge tip.

Offline AnthG

When I book a girl who I find I have really liked. I feel bad that she has somehow resorted into this line of work and not took other options.

When I first started punting for the first year of it I would advise girls on how to start and sign up for open university courses or go to college and how to get the careers they say they wanted to me in the bookings. They'd be all eager and up for it and drag the conversation right out till my time was up.

I would go back and see them for a second booking sometime after and ask if they did anything I suggested and it would be always a "no I haven't".

I learned to accept they want to do this. Or its simply a case of they don't have the drive or motivation to do anything else hence how they resorted to this line of work in the first place.
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greychap

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Any of my fellow punters ever feel guilty of using a young ladies body for your pleasure? No way of really knowing if she is being forced into this business against her will. I worry that the girl is desperately unhappy having to suck and fuck us old guys for lets face it not alot of money. I could not fuck some old fat bird for £2 a minute. Before she pays her pimp or expenses for using the property etc.Perhaps we should all think again if we should punt?

If I suspect that she is being coerced then I would not want to continue with the booking, not many girls really want to do this job but there is a big difference with being forced or just getting pissed off with the job like a lot do.

Offline Jamboney

Any of my fellow punters ever feel guilty of using a young ladies body for your pleasure?

Nope.

I think if I ever started to feel that way I'd call it quits.

Offline NIK

No.

I actually do think again before I punt.
I think is it going to be crap?
« Last Edit: October 07, 2015, 07:58:03 pm by NIK »

Offline LoneWolf2020

i feel as guilty as they do when they give me crap service and do me out of 120 fucking quid.

Offline Tiger63

Any of my fellow punters ever feel guilty of using a young ladies body for your pleasure? No way of really knowing if she is being forced into this business against her will. I worry that the girl is desperately unhappy having to suck and fuck us old guys for lets face it not alot of money. I could not fuck some old fat bird for £2 a minute. Before she pays her pimp or expenses for using the property etc.Perhaps we should all think again if we should punt?
No....next!!!

Offline regular_guy

Never - must point out i don't touch EE's,  i do wonder about some of those being forced to do it

yorkshire123

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Any of my fellow punters ever feel guilty of using a young ladies body for your pleasure? No way of really knowing if she is being forced into this business against her will. I worry that the girl is desperately unhappy having to suck and fuck us old guys for lets face it not alot of money. I could not fuck some old fat bird for £2 a minute. Before she pays her pimp or expenses for using the property etc.Perhaps we should all think again if we should punt?

I'm going to guess that sam is short for Samantha?

Only a trollop can lose 2 years off their age in a matter of a few months  ;)

Offline nike

  Only after the few occasions I've shagged a munter. ;)

+1
The only other time is if it has been a shit punt. :thumbsdown:

Offline nike

Any of my fellow punters ever feel guilty of using a young ladies body for your pleasure? No way of really knowing if she is being forced into this business against her will. I worry that the girl is desperately unhappy having to suck and fuck us old guys for lets face it not alot of money. I could not fuck some old fat bird for £2 a minute. Before she pays her pimp or expenses for using the property etc.Perhaps we should all think again if we should punt?
As for u  buddy, get a grip.

Online threechilliman

Funny but I was thinking of starting a thread with much the same title, but more reference OH's. Guilty for WG's? You gotta be joking. Try feeling sorry for them at the moment you part with your cash, that should wake you up.

Right back to serious questions.

tcm

Offline Placebo88

Any of my fellow punters ever feel guilty of using a young ladies body for your pleasure? No way of really knowing if she is being forced into this business against her will. I worry that the girl is desperately unhappy having to suck and fuck us old guys for lets face it not alot of money. I could not fuck some old fat bird for £2 a minute. Before she pays her pimp or expenses for using the property etc.Perhaps we should all think again if we should punt?

Firstly don't make the mistake of thinking all escorts are the same or are in the same situation ; there will be immense variety between them in any aspect you consider.

Often I feel the opposite way ( to guilty ) ; either what I am paying is stupidly generous considering how easy the work is ( well in my bookings at least ! ) and when service is not great and they are not giving much effort, or worse trying to shortchange you time wise , that they should feel guilty.
   If I like the girl it makes it easier; giving the money to someone you actually like ; that way I don't see it as a waste and feel almost charitable !

You have to be realistic , the world is not a perfect place ; much worse things happen all the time that what you are describing.

I think that the majority of escorts , certainly English ones , go into the job of their own free will - exactly how they feel about it will vary from girl to girl ; read SAAFE for views from real life escorts ! Many are ecstatic to be able to earn £1000+ a week rather than slaving away at a minimum wages job and living hand to mouth.There are lots of escorts who have many other employment opportunities available to them, good ones as well, but prefer to escort , and those who escort for fun as a sideline to a good regular job.

The prevalence of pimps is a bit of a myth as well ; with the advent of internet escort sites , escort agencies and the decline in street prostitution they would be of no benefit to British escorts.Managers, maids or pimps ( often friends , family , legitimate associates and women , not the stereotype ) are going to be more involved with EE escorts and the like for various reasons ; some bad , many due to the girl's inability to advertise and organize herself ( due to language difficulties , lack of intelligence etc.)

If you feel as you do I would recommend sticking to British girls and checking UKP reviews before booking.
 
I would strongly advise steering clear of the majority of foreign escorts on sites like Vivastreet , particularly the ads with ' New Girl In Town ' . If trafficking and coercion are happening then these are most likely its victims.Impossible to give any clear verdict but still unsettling.
   I wrote a review of one such girl which may be of interest to the OP.There are further thoughts on the matter later in the thread.There is no resolution reached with it , but what can you do life is not going to be perfect and you have to be realistic ? Read it if you are at a lose end and are not too prone to boredom !

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=64799.0




tonysoprano

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Given the last WG I shagged admitted to having spent 7 grand on her last shopping spree, I don't feel any guilt whatsoever. Most WG's are willing providers who earn a shitload of money for shagging. Not the worst life in the world is it..


Offline Access

No, they choose to do what they do because they like easy money. That was an answer I got when I asked a girl how and why she does what she does.

Offline Malvolio

Are they miserable because they're being coerced, or are they just miserable because they resent sucking off strangers?

Not being a mind reader I can't tell, so I don't let it concern me.

Offline anyfucker

When I book a girl who I find I have really liked. I feel bad that she has somehow resorted into this line of work and not took other options.

When I first started punting for the first year of it I would advise girls on how to start and sign up for open university courses or go to college and how to get the careers they say they wanted to me in the bookings. They'd be all eager and up for it and drag the conversation right out till my time was up.

I would go back and see them for a second booking sometime after and ask if they did anything I suggested and it would be always a "no I haven't".

I learned to accept they want to do this. Or its simply a case of they don't have the drive or motivation to do anything else hence how they resorted to this line of work in the first place.
AnthG, there's a clue for you above  :)

For OP/sam/smantha,whatevers
The hot fittie a third of my age i shagged yesterday was telling me about how she is planning on opening another flat and getting more girls, non of them coerced.
Time was up but asked did i want to stay on and have a couple of drinks?
Doesn't sound too bad to me.
Oh yes, if there was the equivalent of lube for men (i.e. instant hard-on) i'd fuck fat old grannies for £2 a minute if it was way more than i could earn otherwise.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2015, 11:03:38 am by anyfucker »

Sureshot

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. They'd be all eager and up for it and drag the conversation right out till my time was up.

I would go back and see them for a second booking sometime after and ask if they did anything I suggested and it would be always a "no I haven't".



 :lol: :lol: Easiest booking of her day "some sad twat just paid me £120 to hear him talk about open university.  I pretended i was interested to avoid shagging him"

Offline Belgarion

Not guilty, but I feel sorry for some. There was one in particular, cannot remember the name I met after a booking at AW somewhere in E1. You could tell she was doing it out of desperation and it put me off. She broke down crying and begged me to not write a nasty review and I told her, you need to look at this as a business with a target in mind.

When you achieve your financial goal, you stop doing it. She thanked me, gave me a hug and then rode me very well and said I cared about her welfare.

Fast forward 1 year, she is still doing it and expanding her repertoire of services.

As a rule, I try my best to treat WGs nicely but I am not responsible for her life choices

Online akauya

You say...

I worry that the girl is desperately unhappy having to suck and fuck us old guys for lets face it not alot of money.

yet you posted earlier...

Today some first class prat has left adultwork feedback saying she undercharges for what she does.

confused much?

Next time you go to see a prossie just pay her double her rate - guaranteed to make your guilt feelings disappear ;)


jimbobwood

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Guilty or feel bad? No way!

Me on about 12ph and they are on 120ph.

I used to think, poor EE girl, single mum, scars or bruises on her blah blah blah...

Now I think, she's probably had loads of bad boys/alphas dump their loads inside her for free, now I'm paying £100 ph and she's trying to get rid of me 10 mins early.

If anything, I envy them! :lol:

Offline anyfucker

Guilty or feel bad? No way!

Me on about 12ph and they are on 120ph.

I used to think, poor EE girl, single mum, scars or bruises on her blah blah blah...

Now I think, she's probably had loads of bad boys/alphas dump their loads inside her for free, now I'm paying £100 ph and she's trying to get rid of me 10 mins early.

If anything, I envy them! :lol:
Well if her rate is 120ph and you paid £100 then you are due 50 minutes by my maths  :lol:

Hawkwind71

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Any of my fellow punters ever feel guilty of using a young ladies body for your pleasure? No way of really knowing if she is being forced into this business against her will. I worry that the girl is desperately unhappy having to suck and fuck us old guys for lets face it not alot of money. I could not fuck some old fat bird for £2 a minute. Before she pays her pimp or expenses for using the property etc.Perhaps we should all think again if we should punt?

Why oh why does it always end up with guys feeling their own guilt of shagging a girl half his age and then whining on here that they must be all pimped. For God sake, that's why they're independent, and if you punt one and smell a rat, report to the police, cos pimping is illegal.. It's not rocket science to figure out.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2015, 04:40:53 pm by Hawkwind71 »

Hooperman

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No, but I tend to stick to independents. If I thought one was being coerced, then I wouldn't go ahead - if it seems dodgy, then I don't bother.

As for the ones I do see - no, not really. If they've chosen to do it, then what's the problem? I don't feel guilty about the guy selling me a burger at McDonald's or the woman cleaning the toilets at work,   and I'd say they have a far worse deal than a woman who can earn a month's rent for a day's work on her back. Ultimately, it's just another job.

Hell, I've met a few escorts who deliberately chose it over more conventional work because, comparatively speaking, the pay is really good. There was one, now retired, who owned this gorgeous apartment in a pricey area of London and said basically, how else was she going to be able to afford a place like that in her 20s with no qualifications?

Offline Moresomes

Perhaps we should all think again if we should punt?

OK, I`ve had a good think, and I`m still gagging for my next punt.

Hawkwind71

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OK, I`ve had a good think, and I`m still gagging for my next punt.

Me too, thought for 2 minutes, that's enough. Onward.... :yahoo:

Offline Placebo88

No, but I tend to stick to independents. If I thought one was being coerced, then I wouldn't go ahead - if it seems dodgy, then I don't bother.

As for the ones I do see - no, not really. If they've chosen to do it, then what's the problem? I don't feel guilty about the guy selling me a burger at McDonald's or the woman cleaning the toilets at work,   and I'd say they have a far worse deal than a woman who can earn a month's rent for a day's work on her back. Ultimately, it's just another job.

Hell, I've met a few escorts who deliberately chose it over more conventional work because, comparatively speaking, the pay is really good. There was one, now retired, who owned this gorgeous apartment in a pricey area of London and said basically, how else was she going to be able to afford a place like that in her 20s with no qualifications?

Lots of excellent points in this post ; a realistic appraisal that seems fairly accurate for most of the WGs I have seen.

The original post does read as though it was written by someone with no actual experience of punting ( unless all your bookings are off Vivastreet ) ; it is similar to the view I had before I started but most of what I have experienced does not remotely match it.Maybe he has been listening to David Cameron too much !

Most WGs just see it as a job ; not an ordeal or degradation , and for 95% of the time it is fairly easy work for excellent pay.

They might initially be perturbed at the idea of shagging old guys but most get used to it pretty quickly and many prefer older clients as they are less likely to be rough and have developed better skills with experience.On SAAFE I have read a lot of girl's saying that their real life partners are rubbish in bed compared to some of the clients they see ! Try a few older escorts yourself ; you may be surprised !

If you are as worried as you claim stick to well review escorts and refer back to my previous post for what to avoid.

« Last Edit: October 08, 2015, 09:40:53 pm by Placebo88 »

Offline Boundless

When I book a girl who I find I have really liked. I feel bad that she has somehow resorted into this line of work and not took other options.

When I first started punting for the first year of it I would advise girls on how to start and sign up for open university courses or go to college and how to get the careers they say they wanted to me in the bookings. They'd be all eager and up for it and drag the conversation right out till my time was up.

I would go back and see them for a second booking sometime after and ask if they did anything I suggested and it would be always a "no I haven't".

I learned to accept they want to do this. Or its simply a case of they don't have the drive or motivation to do anything else hence how they resorted to this line of work in the first place.

They didn't do anything about it cos it's hard work and you don't get any payback for years.

Far easier to open your legs for £120 an hour.

Offline Boundless

Why oh why does it always end up with guys feeling their own guilt of shagging a girl half his age and then whining on here that they must be all pimped. For God sake, that's why they're independent, and if you punt one and smell a rat, report to the police, cos pimping is illegal.. It's not rocket science to figure out.

I never go that old!!
Gotta be low 20's for me.

Offline LoneWolf2020

i feel guilty every time i hand over the money.

Pussydoc

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The only time is I feel guilty is to my wife ,,,,the girls earn more than any of us will ever earn , and for the forced or trafficed ones the police should sort them out find the pimps and the low life's ,
I pay to fuck them ,,and there problems are not mine , the majority of girls I have met are having a great life , that's why it's a growing business , b

Hawkwind71

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I never go that old!!
Gotta be low 20's for me.

Me also, saw 24 year old this week, humma humma.

But 'half my age' is fit for purpose  he he  :hi:

Offline smiths

I long ago threw away feelings of guilt, it spoiled my fun, much better to be a guilt free selfish cheating lying arsehole, I have had my whole adult lifetime to perfect not getting caught, complacency being something to never become.

speedieman

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Its better then having an affair

Offline G.Raff

Frankly, I'm not sure who is exploiting whom. Guys are prepared to part considerable amounts of hard earned cash for a few minutes of pleasure with a girl.
99% of the WGs I have seen do it for the easy, quick cash it brings, and wouldn't want to do anything else.
That's the reason why so many WGs keep coming back to the profession despite repeatedly vowing to move on.

Offline anyfucker

Why oh why does it always end up with guys feeling their own guilt of shagging a girl half his age and then whining....
I carefully considered your post  :lol:  and in the interests of science saw a girl half my age to compare guilt with the one a third of my age earlier this week.
Reporting back to my Eskimo brothers i felt no difference in guilt between the two, which by the way was zero guilt.
So, now you have the scientific results, just get out there and do it.

Offline Boundless

Frankly, I'm not sure who is exploiting whom. Guys are prepared to part considerable amounts of hard earned cash for a few minutes of pleasure with a girl.
99% of the WGs I have seen do it for the easy, quick cash it brings, and wouldn't want to do anything else.
That's the reason why so many WGs keep coming back to the profession despite repeatedly vowing to move on.

Exactly.
If anything we are the exploited ones.
They charge more than a dentist, private doctor, solicitor or just about anyone you can think of and require no formal qualifications.
The only reason that a shag costs 60 quid or more is because that's the going rate and they can get enough business to sustain it, as it is in any business. I know that a lot of WG's use a dedicated apartment which they have to pay rent on, but apart from that the outgoings are pretty low, a bit of lube and a condom per booking. You can work if and when you like and even though we are constantly being told that they all pay tax, I know what I would do in those circumstances!

Once you've got over the initial reluctance to suck old blokes cocks and then lie on your back for 10 minutes, I'd imagine it's a doddle.
There's certainly no shortage of women willing to do it.

I hope this doesn't come across as misogynistic or anti WG, just a statement of the facts as i see them.

Online threechilliman

The only time is I feel guilty is to my wife...

That's me exactly. If she knew what I'd done she'd be heart-broken. Sometimes, in a quiet moment, I really do question if I should be doing this at all and risking what I have. We have regular sex, but my appetite for the more unusual gets the better of me.

 :kissgirl: <--- Me and the Mrs......

tcm

Offline Boundless

I console myself by thinking that if the shit hit the fan, she might understand my philandering due to the fact that sex is not on the menu at home.
I'm not totally convinced though, women don't tend to look at these things as logically as men.