SAAFE: Punters who dare to expect sex for the whole time

[Daffodil]

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I've never really taken an interest in saafe and do so only now as I'm on a long boring train ride.

This was the first, and only, thread I've read and I got fed up of this one half way down the first page (so apologies if any prossies eventually came out in defence of the punter).

The gist is that they're slagging off punters who dare to want sex for the whole time they've paid for! Guys who do not cum on cue or pull back from climax are derided and even blacklisted.

The consensus seems to be that we're there, at least in part, to pleasure the prossie. Some even think we hold back because we think it's what the prossie wants...a long session. Some blatantly state the tricks they use to make guys cum sooner.

Are they forgetting they are the service providers? I'm not really that fussed if they thoroughly enjoy themselves. If it's important to them, however, I am happy to take payment and provide the service.

It would be like restauranteurs complaining that customers are coming in, paying for a meal and expecting a meal! 

I am sure they would love me to pay for an hour, wank myself off for 5 minutes whilst they tell me about their maff or siense degrees and then leave. Delusional.

[James999]

That's why pro$$ies prefer longer appointments as they get paid more money for nothing, I was speaking to a pro$$ie the other day (Cute little thing as it goes) and she said that in most appointments the amount of sex involved in a 60 / 45 / 30 min appointment is largely the same, the longer appointments just have more chat drinking coffee etc.

Often it seems punters come in 5 or 10 mins and a lot do not want a second pop, as such if they were sensible they would book a 15 min appt or perhaps 30 mins, and get a coffee at the Starbucks on the way, it probably tastes better and does not cost as much 

As for the pro$$ies whinging, you will notice that it's always the ones that are not busy that complain, as such it is their age / looks / weight / personality / service that means clients don't want to see them and by complaining it's their way of dealing with the rejection.

I've yet to see FIT / HOT / BUSY pro$$ies whinging on the internet, they are to busy either earning money or spending it 

[Jimmyredcab]

I've yet to see FIT / HOT / BUSY pro$$ies whinging on the internet, they are to busy either earning money or spending it 

I have tried many times to get fit, hot pro$$ies to join UKP, never had any success ----- as you quite rightly say, they are too busy earning money. 

[softlad]

It never ceases to amaze me that some deluded punters think Ho's actually enjoy meeting us...
There maybe the odd exception to this rule, but I'd say 85% would prefer you to simply walk in leave her donation in a sealed envelope,
then walk out...
That's what one said previously isn't it ?
Fluffies my delude themselves that they are different because they treat 'em with respect....
Wake up and smell the coffee chaps. 
Nothing the skanks could say on any pro$$ie site would surprise me.
Most are hard nosed money grabbing two faced bitches, and punters would do well to remember this.

[Matium]

Saafe is an antidote for those punters who think prostitutes actually care.

As Figa  98 says:

Its so god damn boring when they are banging away like they are in a porno,and they actually think we love it,if only they knew

As for Emily from the lengths of the posts she writes, it's obvious she's permanently unemployed.

This is how Wiley Coyote describes her customers:

Selfish. Mean spirited. Self absorbed. Mean. Deluded. Sell their granny for a quid 'types'.

[Fatpro$$ie]

I do not understand why these girls do not put it on thier profile or website if they do not like the full on banging for the whole session.  I have and now do not get punters that just want to fuck a hole for an hour or two.  Instead I get the ones who want the whole experience, ie kissing, ora and other sensual activitiesl rather than just banging.

Stating on your profile what you offer is simple.  Rather than saying you offer a PSE which is a lot of shagging put that you dont...Simples and no need to slag off your clients then either

[Matium]

Oh dear, our very own Kristina, who posts here, also weighed in:

If someone wants to 'bunny farm' as I call it for an hour then it just simply takes all the fun out of it and I turn into a robitic machine

Loathing of customers must be infectious on Saafe.

[Ali Katt]

The thing these prossies should ask themselves is if the guy is banging away for an hour incessantly maybe they don't fancy her or she is a crap shag. Given the evidence on Saafe I think the guys would be better off having a wank.

I think calling a guy a twat because he doesn't suffer from PE is a bit harsh. If I couldn't make a girl cum I wouldn't say "let me see those pissflaps twitch you whorebag" - that would be childish.

I think most punters know the tricks
- I refuse a crap massage unless it's a good body-to-body
- I refuse hand relief (the girl should use her mouth) - I can get HR for nowt
- If the girl leaves to make a coffee/stash the cash - I start getting undressed

Has anyone experienced what I call "clamping" - where the girl uses kegal/pelvic floor exercises to make the guy cum quicker?

Remember always switch positions and delay orgasm - you get your money's worth and if they complain your taking ages; write a bad feedback report

[pleasureplease]

sheesh, I dont want to book 30 mins and cum in 5 mins, the enjoyment is in the high I get from fucking,licking, etc, to cum real quick means a less intense orgasm , so its good to hold till you have to cum near the end of the time paid. I always try to book a 15 min quickie to start when seeing someone new and if she is fun, Ill then go for 30 mins and 60 min sessions regularly.
 I may now have to think twice since according to the saafe blog, Im a twat for wanting to fuck for the time I payed for, lol, sorry.   

[James999]

The thing these prossies should ask themselves is if the guy is banging away for an hour incessantly maybe they don't fancy her or she is a crap shag. Given the evidence on Saafe I think the guys would be better off having a wank.

I think calling a guy a twat because he doesn't suffer from PE is a bit harsh. If I couldn't make a girl cum I wouldn't say "let me see those pissflaps twitch you whorebag" - that would be childish.

I think most punters know the tricks
- I refuse a crap massage unless it's a good body-to-body
- I refuse hand relief (the girl should use her mouth) - I can get HR for nowt
- If the girl leaves to make a coffee/stash the cash - I start getting undressed

Has anyone experienced what I call "clamping" - where the girl uses kegal/pelvic floor exercises to make the guy cum quicker?

Remember always switch positions and delay orgasm - you get your money's worth and if they complain your taking ages; write a bad feedback report

  Post of the week 

[brooksey]

Although I think one or two of the saafe posters were being a bit tongue in cheek, there seems to be a huge amount of ignorance and resentment.
Why should someone not want to cum twice when offered the chance ? Well some just can't. It's a bloke thing! If I pay someone for an hour I don't expect to be made to ejaculate after 20 mins, because afterwards I'm in a completely different mood, and would struggle to fill the next 40 mins with idle banter and "frolics".
But of course that's not what they really want. They just want you to cum, get dressed and bugger off.

[kundalini]

I find that reading Saafe typically puts me of paying for sex for a couple of months. The contempt for clients is breath-taking. And the near total lack of interest in sex is another striking feature.

By the way, of course I expect to do sex for the full time. Given the prices charged, I'm hardly going to want to spend time chatting.

[AnthG]

I find that reading Saafe typically puts me of paying for sex for a couple of months. The contempt for clients is breath-taking. And the near total lack of interest in sex is another striking feature.

I remember my first reading of Saafe which was before I even saw my first escort and had found this forum it scared the absolute bejeesers out of me.

Its the warnings section that did it. They would say this guy phoned me up here is his name, address, email, telephone number and exactly what he did and said for the most trivial and minor of things. (usually booking and then not turning up after the booking was made).

The mods do remove all that saying 'please read the warning posting rules' but its so slow (usually days after they remove that sensitive info) and once it hits a google spider it takes 4 months for google to remove entries from its cache so someone google searching for those details will get hit with that topic on saafe long after the mod removed it from saafe.

[James999]

I find that reading Saafe typically puts me of paying for sex for a couple of months. The contempt for clients is breath-taking. And the near total lack of interest in sex is another striking feature.

It should put you off having sex with those posters for LIfe, as has been aid earlier, FIT YOUNG pro$$ies rarely post on the forums and certainly don't have the negative attitudes shown up by the bitter old hags on Saafe, obviously vaginal dryness makes them very bitter 

[Northernbloke]

The bit in the first post about blacklisting someone for banging away being "hard work" made me smile(grimace!). "Earning" probably £150 for lying on a bed for an hour, that's really hard work isn't it. Some of these tarts really don't know how good they have it, in all business dealings you have to take good and bad.

[Bangers and Gash]

This topic made me laugh as I too read thru the Saafe forum and came across that load of BS. I'm sure one pro$$ie chimed in about not liking RO!!! Fuck me rigid, that's like a bus driver saying he don't like doing left turns. I doubt the cow puts it on her profile? 

I also read another topic about a pro$$ie doing her first 'fuck & food' booking and got told by one hag called Ellie_e to always use a restaurant away from the hotel as this basically wastes the punters time commuting back and forth. WTF is that all about???
 
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Those backstabbing hags on Saafe give the small minority of decent pro$$ies, who are too busy to chat shit all day, a bad name.

Is there some kind of database here on UKPunting with all their AW profiles listed, as I'd seriously hate to hand over my hard earned cash to any of those washed-up, ball breaking gold diggers?   

[Daffodil]

This topic made me laugh as I too read thru the Saafe forum and came across that load of BS. I'm sure one pro$$ie chimed in about not liking RO!!! Fuck me rigid, that's like a bus driver saying he don't like doing left turns. I doubt the cow puts it on her profile? 

I also read another topic about a pro$$ie doing her first 'fuck & food' booking and got told by one hag called Ellie_e to always use a restaurant away from the hotel as this basically wastes the punters time commuting back and forth. WTF is that all about???
 
Croque of shit > External Link/Members Only

Those backstabbing hags on Saafe give the small minority of decent pro$$ies, who are too busy to chat shit all day, a bad name.

Is there some kind of database here on UKPunting with all their AW profiles listed, as I'd seriously hate to hand over my hard earned cash to any of those washed-up, ball breaking gold diggers?   

I like the final idea. Any washed up prossie posting bullshit advice on Saafe that adversely affects the punter gets her AW profile linked on here. Might discourage their blatant anti-punter shit.

I also enjoyed the bus driver analogy 

[James999]

Sounds like a plan, put them straight into the bad providers section with a cut and paste of their Post on Saafe 

[Melb]

Is there some kind of database here on UKPunting with all their AW profiles listed, as I'd seriously hate to hand over my hard earned cash to any of those washed-up, ball breaking gold diggers?   

Good idea, I support it 

[Daffodil]

Reading bangers_and_gash's thread link should we also gave a blacklist for punters so we know not to take their recommendations too seriously? 2 hours of reverse oral?! Wtf?

[James999]

He was probably licking her waiting for her to get wet  :angry:After Two hours and a cunt as dry as the gobi desert he must have realised she was past it and vaginal dryness had well and truely set in 

[Daffodil]

He was probably licking her waiting for her to get wet  :angry:After Two hours and a cunt as dry as the gobi desert he must have realised she was past it and vaginal dryness had well and truely set in 

 

[Melb]

maybe he found another punter up there and was having a chat?

[Bangers and Gash]

He was probably licking her waiting for her to get wet  :angry:After Two hours and a cunt as dry as the gobi desert he must have realised she was past it and vaginal dryness had well and truely set in 

That's my favourite comment of the day 

[hammer8]

I love this post.

''One word for these guys... Selfish. Mean spirited. Self absorbed. Mean. Deluded. Sell their granny for a quid 'types'.''

Followed by

''If they could only just pause for a second or two to listen to the lovely vibes we emanate for their benefit, they wouldn't be on the list of 'hard to do's''' 

[hammer8]

I love this post.

''One word for these guys... Selfish. Mean spirited. Self absorbed. Mean. Deluded. Sell their granny for a quid 'types'.''

Followed by

''If they could only just pause for a second or two to listen to the lovely vibes we emanate for their benefit, they wouldn't be on the list of 'hard to do's'''

[hollierose-x]

Hi,
I've been browsing this site for a few weeks, and You all have a reet sense of humour! 
And yes I go on saafe, And do notice it has alot of bitchiness, but it also is a place where girls can stress out to other people in situations like themselves, I think what was meant with that thread was 60 minutes of pure "banging" is to much to handle, Most of my clients we do 5 minute business talk (e.g handing over money,) 5 minutes chit chat.. then the rest foreplay and ect, you can imagine I did have one client which wanted 59 minutes of pure sex, which if you look on the web sex is average 7 minutes... but after 45 minutes it gets to the point where you're just like "Okay, right, ouch" 
You lot are so dam harsh

[Matium]

Is there some kind of database here on UKPunting with all their AW profiles listed, as I'd seriously hate to hand over my hard earned cash to any of those washed-up, ball breaking gold diggers?   

That's an excellent suggestion.

The Saafe girls will certainly start improving once they know that bad service costs them money and their names on a blacklist.

[AnthG]

You all have a reet sense of humour! 

Are you from Newcastle Hollie?

[hollierose-x]

Are you from Newcastle Hollie?

Yeah haha
But I don't live there now!

[Jimmyredcab]

Yeah haha
But I don't live there now!

So where do you advertise ????
Are you on Adultwork ?????

[Bangers and Gash]

I did have one client which wanted 59 minutes of pure sex, which if you look on the web sex is average 7 minutes... but after 45 minutes it gets to the point where you're just like "Okay, right, ouch" 
You lot are so dam harsh

7 minutes

So drop your rates down to £10 per hour then. If I went into work and spent most of my time fiddling on a Blackberry and waffling on about crap, my boss would tell me to 'get the fuck out.' If being a pro$$ie is so demanding, I suggest you get a job working in a factory or sweep the streets for five days a week.

Unbelievable! 

[Melb]

but after 45 minutes it gets to the point where you're just like "Okay, right, ouch" 

Personally, I think that's fair enough.
We've got a right to expect 60 minutes of service but it should not be non-stop banging and certainly not so hard that it makes them sore.

[Kristina]

Where is the fun in: walk in my room bend over the bed start banging away for 1 hour to the minute, get dressed see you out - definition bunny farming!  Oh sorry I didn't even get your name LOL!!!

Walk in the room be teased a little, get our clothes off oral both ways lots of teasing etc etc - I don't need to go into the details - you get the picture, some good sex which is enjoyed by both so much more fun and personal then the bend me over and fuck me. 

Don't get me wrong it is the guys hour so we can do what they like in that hour no problem only thinking of making it an enjoyable experieince with some interaction as there is more to sex than just the fucking.

[AnthG]

Where is the fun in: walk in my room bend over the bed start banging away for 1 hour to the minute, get dressed see you out.

But obviously there must be as guys would not be wanting to pay £100-£150 for that hour just to do it.

I personally agree however that would not be fun for me. But I also believe my definition of fun with an escort can be considered weird to others too.

[Kristina]

But obviously there must be as guys would not be wanting to pay £100-£150 for that hour just to do it.

I personally agree however that would not be fun for me. But I also believe my definition of fun with an escort can be considered weird to others too.

Yes fair point I have not come across too many that do do that I must say.   My definition of fun can also be considered weird we all have our own little quirks it is exactly what makes it fun.

[Matium]

To each, their own,

But WGs should be clear on their Website and Adultwork Page what they will and will not do and if they don't want to see the "Value for Money" guys then they should say so.

[Kristina]

To each, their own,

But WGs should be clear on their Website and Adultwork Page what they will and will not do and if they don't want to see the "Value for Money" guys then they should say so.

I could not agree more been open and honest about what you will and won't do in this game is essential.  Leading people on a wild goose chase is unacceptable not only in this line of work but in any other.   Also punters been open and honest about what they want really helps a WG deliver the product so to speak.  If I order a red car and a a blue one turns up this is no good to me!!!! 

[Melb]

Freudian slip?
Spotted this on SAAFE:

Hi ladies,

I was supposed to be working from an apartment in Manchester on Thursday but due to unforeseen circumstances, totally not her fault, she's had to cancel.

I've got bookings already and I really don't want to cancel.

Do you know of any reasonable Mancheater hotels I could work from? No key cards, not shabby etc. Wednesday and Thursday night about £160 budget.

Please help me girls, it would be massively appreciated xx

[Ali Katt]

Where is the fun in: walk in my room bend over the bed start banging away for 1 hour to the minute, get dressed see you out - definition bunny farming!

I don't think many guys would want this. I think the old boots on SAAFE have taken this out of context. I think what punters on here mean (or at least I do) is that punters don't like having the Michael taken out of them by having the girl talk constantly for 30mins in an hour booking before any touching goes on, spending 15 mins to stash the cash, double/back-to-back bookings to make an appointment shorter, spending ages making a coffee - or as I saw on one profile having photos taken for the girl's profile on the punter's time. The way I see it, the punter wants good value and if they get 30mins sex (whether it be oral, anal, vag, fingering, watersports, dom etc) in an hour booking they are being ripped off. The (old) prossies on saafe don't get repeat booking often - I'm guessing.

[sucky2dollar]

You should be able to have as much sex as you can manage in the time (imo)

The reality is most wont manage more than a couple of times

[Vulcan1]

As an older punter I am happy to crack one out in the hour never mind two!!! Though one of the advantages of this is that I get a chance to try all options available 

[workinallweek]

 I f the girl is good it wont take me an hour thats for sure

[adindas]

The norm is 60 minutes start from hand in the money, until get dressed ready to leave unless stated otherwise on the adv.

So in reality it will be 45 min effective, not 60 minutes. When taking foreplay into consideration it will be less than 45 minutes.

[SteveNova]

If a guy wants to and is able to shag non-stop for an hour then fine.  Personally I like variety in what I do during the time I've booked, including DFK, RO and fingering - although I see in SAAFE threads that all of those were complained about as well if they weren't done to the WG's expectations    I take all that with a pinch of salt and as either coming from embittered escorts, or as 'black humour' of the type you get in any occupation.  They can write what they want on SAAFE, but their dislike of some punters  doesn't bear any relation to my experiences. But then maybe that's because I don't bang away endlessly   

[AnthG]

Been reading some of topics and stlll cannot get over some of the things said there.

This topic seems a one of WTF

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I have read that topic about 3 times trying to find what the OPs issue is. The guy pays £500 per month on the understanding he sees her 1hr per week each month. I would class that as a bit of a score there having a guaranteed regular.

He turned up 30 mins early on the last booking so she is going crazy over it seems. Plus from her description of the booking

He was like a bloody piranha trying to bite my lips off and nearly bit my clit off! I told him nicely and he seemed to respect this. Did some oral and then he wanted to come on me, so I let him. I just wanted 10 or so minutes to get my breath back.... and no sooner had he come, he wanted to do it again. Sex was sore and I was drier than a prehistoric dinosaur bone because it was such a turn off.

This is why they invented lubricant. You are a sex worker. You cannot just have sex when you are turned on.

I need to keep him on as a client for the meantime until my client base picks up but he's a real nightmare. Says he's some well paid businessman on £500,000 a year, yet only able to give £500 a month and wants more and more of my time. He really makes me work for my money, he is hard work.

And her reaction to this dreadful thing of not letting her have 10 mins wait....Assault the guy.

Last time he was round, he pissed me off so much that when he was on top of me and stuck his tongue in my mouth, I was so angry that I nearly bit it off, and then deliberately dug and scratched my nails on him to piss him off.

Also to add the guy is married. So if he has scratch marks all down him this could ruin discretion as this is not easy to explain away.

[Matium]

I'm pretty sure some of the hags, harridans, hecates, harlot and harpies on Saafe haven't been humped in many moons.

They do get a lot of time to polish their broomsticks, feed their the black cats and dust the cobwebs off their phones though.

Saafe is a guide on how not to be a prostitute.

[James999]

FIt young pro$$ies don't bother with internet forums, they are to busy getting shagged, if not by punters then by boyfriends etc, and when not shagging they are out partying or shopping, why would they want to discuss the price of condoms on the internet, or moan that guys dare to ring after 7pm, they have a life and simply switch off the phone.

Where as the older wshed up pro$$iies leave their phone on just so they can moan about the fact it rang after 8 

[AnthG]

Saafe is a guide on how not to be a prostitute.

The thing that grates me well and truly is they have no appreciation on the value of money.

The guy says he makes £500,000 per year but can only afford £500 per month. Does she not think he is maybe saying that 500k to just impress and he really can only afford £500 per month.

And regardless £500 is a lot of money for what is only 4hrs work. I am not going to use the analogy of stacking shelves on their part but they need to appreciate that this guy could be stacking shelves to afford that £500 and he needs to stack a lot of shelves to afford that for her to act like its nothing and chicken feed.

Looking at her other posts it seems all she does is setup inappropriate relationships with punters and then complain about it afterwards.

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I am on holiday just now and my regulars know this. Some have texted to say they are looking forward to me returning.

However, I have one who I literally could just strangle for being a total prat (this is the same guy who I posted about who kept on wanting more and more and knackering me). He texted and asked if I had a tan. I replied with yep. Then the cheeky sod asked for free pics! I replied that a) my phone was not equipped to do this and b) he knows the score about this. Then the idiot replied with "email one then".

I have already had a so called SD cancel on me and waste my time, wanting free sex, so I told him where to go, now I have this guy.

Christ the guy is just being nice. If I had a regular who had said its ok to message her during a holiday, and then said she had got a tan. I would jokingly ask for a picture of it too.

She should have said;
 
Q: "do you have a tan"
A: "sorry not working now, see you when I get back".

Replying with "Yep" gives the clear impression she is flirting with him.

[Kitty]

I have tried many times to get fit, hot pro$$ies to join UKP, never had any success ----- as you quite rightly say, they are too busy earning money.

Some manage both

I don't mind sex for the whole time at all, but some people seem to forget that even the most flexible of girls can get uncomfortable after shagging with their ankles by their necks for quite a while. Plus, without clitoral stimulation, most girls can't orgasm through penetrative sex. Even if you're paying the girl to be with you isn't the experience far more fun if both you and the lady are having a good time, no?