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Offline AnthG

Given all the talk recently about price increases and changes of working and all sorts. I figured maybe a topic to discuss it all in one go may be beneficial so its not dotted around all different topics.

I will start with my thoughts and questions on this. Many Prostitutes claim to be business management experts. If you went onto another forum and ever said that any WG was not a business minded genius. It was literally a permanent pre-moddable offence (no joke on that too, it literally was). So with that in mind. There are some scenarios that I wouldn't mind discussing.

Business problem one. You have a scenario when you are finding yourselves not getting any bookings. Literally you are getting way less bookings you feel you should be getting and money is getting hard to come by as you need to pay the rent and utilities and so forth. You know that the reason why is due to competition in the area who are charging either the same amount or less than you do for the same thing. Possibly even offering a better service than you are for that same amount or they are even less money you are currently. Do you therefore

A. Raise your prices, or
B. Lower your prices to fix this?

Second business problem. You are still in the above scenario. Getting hardly any bookings, maybe 2 or 3 bookings per week. Do you thus in this dry spell just offer a normal service to those few people booking you as really in the grand scheme of things. Who cares if they choose to book again. As this is my service, so like it or lump it. And really if they are not happy they can find someone else to book.

Or do you go full on and give the extra mile and make them feel special and curl their toes. Give them some little bit of extra time as you have nobody booked afterwards and they are 'so fun to be around' and you are enjoying their company so much and thus 'lost track of time' in their company. And just go all out to make them feel special.

Third Business problem. You are in an agency, every girl is on the same rates as each other. Another girl in the agency is getting a whole load of bookings, the most in the agency by far, and you are not and thus are not getting enough and what you need. Do you therefore

A. Sit there in your bookings with punters who do book you miserable and moaning about how much of a bitch this other girl is, that you are just as pretty as her, and she is not all that and you know it. Or
B. Go all out,  knocking those guys you see for six at how good of a time you offer. And be happy, cheery and chirpy throughout the booking.

Fourth Business problem. You have got hardly any bookings. You have only had one booking that whole week. You need cash. You tell a regular customer this problem, and so they say, ok so you have no bookings. How about we just do a booking where we have no sex whatsoever. We just sit and chat, or literally just sit and watch TV together just for some company. But for this, because there is no sex involved. The customer says they cannot really justify this unless its done at a drastically reduced price on your normal rates that you charge for that time in sex. Do you

A.Tell him where to go as you have standards and my rates are set and even if there was no sex that's not my problem. So refuse it on principal.
B. Or think, well I have nobody else booking me right now. This will be a very easy booking as I know we get along, and we wont be having sex or anything. So this will be an easy way of getting some pretty decent money for relatively little work I will be doing, so yeah ok so its nowhere near my normal 'for sex' rate. But nobody has been booking recently anyway so its not like I am turning people away for this to accept this offer. Plus its a regular who its always good to keep them happy.

Fifth Business Problem.  You are on an agency who charge £100 for an hour to see you. But you have to pay them £30 commission. This means you come away with £70 per hour.

You have an adultwork account. You wish to tempt people to see you on Adultwork to thus not need to pay that £30 commission.

Do you therefore

A. Charge the same or even just less than the agency does to tempt people to book you independent. Thus meaning you get the full £100 and not the £70 you'd get if the person booking via the agency. Or
B. Charge more than the agency does. This means you get the whole amount and no commission to pay the agency and also some more on top because that guy was daft enough to not book me via the agency. Double score.

So like I say am just curious what gets said for answers to any of the above. Or if anyone has any more than the five above.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2015, 03:33:02 pm by AnthG »
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Welcome to the real world of supply and demand.

Thinks will level out.

Has anyone dropped there rates yet they were not allowed to do this before to.  Which ,may have restricted the overweight past it hookers

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Given all the talk recently about price increases and changes of working and all sorts. I figured maybe a topic to discuss it all in one go may be beneficial so its not dotted around all different topics.

I will start with my thoughts and questions on this. Many Prostitutes claim to be business management experts. If you went onto another forum and ever said that any WG was not a business minded genius. It was literally a permanent pre-moddable offence (no joke on that too, it literally was). So with that in mind. There are some scenarios that I wouldn't mind discussing.

Business problem one. You have a scenario when you are finding yourselves not getting any bookings. Literally you are getting way less bookings you feel you should be getting and money is getting hard to come by as you need to pay the rent and utilities and so forth. You know that the reason why is due to competition in the area who are charging either the same amount or less than you do for the same thing. Possibly even offering a better service than you are for that same amount or they are even less money you are currently. Do you therefore

A. Raise your prices, or
B. Lower your prices to fix this?

Second business problem. You are still in the above scenario. Getting hardly any bookings, maybe 2 or 3 bookings per week. Do you thus in this dry spell just offer a normal service to those few people booking you as really in the grand scheme of things. Who cares if they choose to book again. As this is my service, so like it or lump it. And really if they are not happy they can find someone else to book.

Or do you go full on and give the extra mile and make them feel special and curl their toes. Give them some little bit of extra time as you have nobody booked afterwards and they are 'so fun to be around' and you are enjoying their company so much and thus 'lost track of time' in their company. And just go all out to make them feel special.

Third Business problem. You are in an agency, every girl is on the same rates as each other. Another girl in the agency is getting a whole load of bookings, the most in the agency by far, and you are not and thus are not getting enough and what you need. Do you therefore

A. Sit there in your bookings with punters who do book you miserable and moaning about how much of a bitch this other girl is, that you are just as pretty as her, and she is not all that and you know it. Or
B. Go all out,  knocking those guys you see for six at how good of a time you offer. And be happy, cheery and chirpy throughout the booking.

Fourth Business problem. You have got hardly any bookings. You have only had one booking that whole week. You need cash. You tell a regular customer this problem, and so they say, ok so you have no bookings. How about we just do a booking where we have no sex whatsoever. We just sit and chat, or literally just sit and watch TV together just for some company. But for this, because there is no sex involved. The customer says they cannot really justify this unless its done at a drastically reduced price on your normal rates that you charge for that time in sex. Do you

A.Tell him where to go as you have standards and my rates are set and even if there was no sex that's not my problem. So refuse it on principal.
B. Or think, well I have nobody else booking me right now. This will be a very easy booking as I know we get along, and we wont be having sex or anything. So this will be an easy way of getting some pretty decent money for relatively little work I will be doing, so yeah ok so its nowhere near my normal 'for sex' rate. But nobody has been booking recently anyway so its not like I am turning people away for this to accept this offer. Plus its a regular who its always good to keep them happy.

Fifth Business Problem.  You are on an agency who charge £100 for an hour to see you. But you have to pay them £30 commission. This means you come away with £70 per hour.

You have an adultwork account. You wish to tempt people to see you on Adultwork to thus not need to pay that £30 commission.

Do you therefore

A. Charge the same or even just less than the agency does to tempt people to book you independent. Thus meaning you get the full £100 and not the £70 you'd get if the person booking via the agency. Or
B. Charge more than the agency does. This means you get the whole amount and no commission to pay the agency and also some more on top because that guy was daft enough to not book me via the agency. Double score.

So like I say am just curious what gets said for answers to any of the above. Or if anyone has any more than the five above.

Long post and well thought out Anth.

Its simple for me if a girl ups her prices and is still getting the bookings and repeat business and still making the effort in the booking then good choice for her.

If she has gone higher with prices and lost work and struggling to makes end meat over a period of time then reality is if she wants to stay in the industry needs to reduce it back and same goes with agencies all trial and error.

I think the main problem with the term used " greedy prostitutes" is when a punter has been used to getting a cheap price and then she has the choice to increase it or off her own back decides to as she feels worthless and wants more money for the risks she takes she will be judged as being greedy because some punters will think how dare she increase it if she has done it for cheap money she should always do it at that price she is up her own arse and big headed to think she is now worth more!!! Would people agree with this is how some feel??

Offline AnthG

I think the main problem with the term used " greedy prostitutes" is when a punter has been used to getting a cheap price and then she has the choice to increase it or off her own back decides to as she feels worthless and wants more money for the risks she takes she will be judged as being greedy because some punters will think how dare she increase

But this is the going rate for this line of work in the North East. I know it all sounds callous, but this is the rate in the North East and its not determined by risk.

As an example of what I mean (I always go to films to emphasize my point as I am a film fanatic). But for the first time on Friday I watched the movie Juggernaut.

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What this is basically is its a move about bomb disposal experts and the absolute huge risks they take every day of the week. Their life is to expect this is the day I will quite possibly hit a booby trap and blow up and it will come sooner or later. I could never in a million years do this job.

The villain of the pic was unhappy about how the low money he was getting for this job so felt to hold a ship ransom with 7 explosives unless he gets paid £500,000 which is the money he feels he was owed for that line of work and the risk he endured. The government said we wont pay. And so the rest of the bomb disposal team needed to go in and defuse them.

The point of the film was, this is the job they do. It is incredibly dangerous but they cannot turn around and say due to the risks I want more money per hour. They get the going rate.

Its the same here unfortunately. There is really a going rate for this line of work.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2015, 03:56:23 pm by AnthG »
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But this is the going rate for this line of work in the North East.
So to confirm you believe all prostitutes are worth the same regardless of services and attractiveness.

Some are not worth the £50 for your half hour and should acknowledge the differences by dropping their prices.

Offline AnthG

So to confirm you believe all prostitutes are worth the same regardless of services and attractiveness.

This is one of the problems I have when I start these types of topics. People raise a totally different conclusion to what I have said or is being said. Then go with their own conclusion and turn it all into drama and I look like a scumbag for something I haven't even said.

This is not what I am saying. What I am saying is two fold.

1. If you are finding you are not having any business and the reason why is clearly due to better competition who are at the same rate you currently are. The fix to this problem is not in a million years to increase your prices.

2. If someone is saying "well you know I think this job is risky, so as a result I will increase my prices". This is also not really a justified reason too.

For example, Punters in the same boat could argue that being a punter is very risky. And we often have more to loose from that risk. So why not say, 'we will pay less for an hour booking due to that risk? If I ever suggested that idea the response would be unanimous, "are you mad, you pay the going rate regardless of risk, you don't like that risk, don't punt".
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1. If you are finding you are not having any business and the reason why is clearly due to better competition who are at the same rate you currently are. The fix to this problem is not in a million years to increase your prices.
But I must have missed the bit where they were complaining about having no business ?  Is it on here ?  Or an assumption ?

Offline AnthG

But I must have missed the bit where they were complaining about having no business ?  Is it on here ?  Or an assumption ?

It often doesn't take a genius to conclude this is what is happening quite often.
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It often doesn't take a genius to conclude this is what is happening quite often.
An assumption then !

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This is one of the problems I have when I start these types of topics. People raise a totally different conclusion to what I have said or is being said. Then go with their own conclusion and turn it all into drama and I look like a scumbag for something I haven't even said.

This is not what I am saying. What I am saying is two fold.

1. If you are finding you are not having any business and the reason why is clearly due to better competition who are at the same rate you currently are. The fix to this problem is not in a million years to increase your prices.

2. If someone is saying "well you know I think this job is risky, so as a result I will increase my prices". This is also not really a justified reason too.

For example, Punters in the same boat could argue that being a punter is very risky. And we often have more to loose from that risk. So why she we not pay less due to that risk? If I ever suggested that idea the response would be unanimous, "are you mad, you pay the going rate regardless of risk, you don't like that risk, don't punt".

Anth your missing the point I aM well aware THE £50 PRICE HAS BEEN THE GOING RATE FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS OR EVEN 20 YEARS HA HA, but times change, gas goes up, rent goes up, shopping goes up, bills go up, this is a luxury hobbie not something that is the same as food or gas to keep us warm.

There will always be cheaper and more expensive hookers out there to find because one agency decides they need the price to go up after 20 years so what what is the big deal??

If someone cannot afford the price there is cheaper out there and if someone can afford it but just don't like the fact the price has gone up then there is cheaper out there.

Do you really think every single agency in the northeast will stay the same price for the next 10 years its not realistic.

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Do you really think every single agency in the northeast will stay the same price for the next 10 years its not realistic.
Your right we don't live in a socialist/communist utopia.

greychap

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Your right we don't live in a socialist/communist utopia.

The guys up here overall have had a good price for a very long time we all would love to pay less for more or keep the prices the same forever but its not a real world its a fantasy world :dash:

Offline AnthG

Do you really think every single agency in the northeast will stay the same price for the next 10 years its not realistic.

But with regards to the agencies. Its the one who has upped their prices above the norm that is raising all the discussions.

Everyone knows what is going on in the north east at the moment. Allure have come allong offering a great service and great girls and great everything. As a result the 'old timers'. Diamonds and Amour have been hit hard by that competition.

If it was a case of a price increase in the region was thought needed. The logical one to implement that at this moment in time would have been Allure. Its a new agency, they are getting all the girls and all the business. And all the positive word of mouth. But it wasn't them, they are still going happy on £50 and £100 rates.

It was the one who has been by a long way hit hardest by that new competition. So now they are both inferior to Allure in terms of service offered. So to compete with that they want more money for the same thing. That is not business 101.

My first post wasn't just about Diamonds though. It was also about that crazy girl Tori on their books who they have upped their prices for. It is painfully obvious she is getting no bookings at £150 per hour.

Put it this way, there is this Tori on the region for £150 per hour. Or there is the other Tori (Taylor) wanting £100 per hour.

If I went into the London section of the forum, or any section, and described both the regions Tori's to them and said which one do you think will be the £150 per hour and which one the £100 to book. I can bet everyone will get it wrong.
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The guys up here overall have had a good price for a very long time we all would love to pay less for more or keep the prices the same forever but its not a real world its a fantasy world :dash:
I believe that some are not worth the price some are worth more but putting them all the same sends the message all you have to do is the bare minimum.

Imagine going to work and getting promoted and more experienced and you never get a pay rise. And some useless cunt comes and gets the same as you because its policy !

greychap

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I believe that some are not worth the price some are worth more but putting them all the same sends the message all you have to do is the bare minimum.

Imagine going to work and getting promoted and more experienced and you never get a pay rise. And some useless cunt comes and gets the same as you because its policy !

If Diamonds were a bit smart with this move of prices going up they would keep note carefully of girls that are only signing up to get more but still give a crap time and boot the punter out before the time, if they can make it clear if your only here to abuse the risk the agency have taken you will be taken off the site or warned and then taken off if they repeat the piss take.

If they have this business model they could do good long term but time will tell!

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If Diamonds were a bit smart with this move of prices going up they would keep note carefully of girls that are only signing up to get more but still give a crap time and boot the punter out before the time, if they can make it clear if your only here to abuse the risk the agency have taken you will be taken off the site or warned and then taken off if they repeat the piss take.

If they have this business model they could do good long term but time will tell!
Yes rules and a framework are needed in any business, what ever pay grade they are on.

Offline AnthG

I believe that some are not worth the price some are worth more but putting them all the same sends the message all you have to do is the bare minimum.

The problem with this is two fold. And its both caused by the agencies.

1. Firstly the agencies don't want to be done by the law. So they make it clear "you are only paying for the girls time nothing else". If that is the case they cannot then charge different rates for different girls due to one is "better" than the other as you are only paying for her time nothing else.

2. And the second and more importantly. The agencies don't seem to get rid of the dross. All three of the big agencies have about 40 or so girls on their books at any one time. And everyone deep down knows maybe at most 15 of them are worth a booking. The other 25 are just there to fill out the numbers to make the agency appear the best in the region.

Those other 25 offer a mediocre time in comparison and sit there in resentment of the other popular girls as they are getting more bookings than them. (hence business plan above covering this for girls to see the likely reason why this is).

The agencies really should just get rid of these girls and truly just be 'elite' - the word gets thrown around enough but never is it justified. This is why review forums like this are so vital as punters don't know what they will be getting without reviews.
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And the second and more importantly. The agencies don't seem to get rid of the dross.
That is very much needed but prossies are good at a sob story look how Logan sob storied her way in !

greychap

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But with regards to the agencies. Its the one who has upped their prices above the norm that is raising all the discussions.

Everyone knows what is going on in the north east at the moment. Allure have come allong offering a great service and great girls and great everything. As a result the 'old timers'. Diamonds and Amour have been hit hard by that competition.

If it was a case of a price increase in the region was thought needed. The logical one to implement that at this moment in time would have been Allure. Its a new agency, they are getting all the girls and all the business. And all the positive word of mouth. But it wasn't them, they are still going happy on £50 and £100 rates.

It was the one who has been by a long way hit hardest by that new competition. So now they are both inferior to Allure in terms of service offered. So to compete with that they want more money for the same thing. That is not business 101.

My first post wasn't just about Diamonds though. It was also about that crazy girl Tori on their books who they have upped their prices for. It is painfully obvious she is getting no bookings at £150 per hour.

Put it this way, there is this Tori on the region for £150 per hour. Or there is the other Tori (Taylor) wanting £100 per hour.

If I went into the London section of the forum, or any section, and described both the regions Tori's to them and said which one do you think will be the £150 per hour and which one the £100 to book. I can bet everyone will get it wrong.

Right to do with Allure I know exactly why they did not go in hard with prices higher they wanted the same punters that amour and Diamonds get and to get those ones over to them so going in higher most puynters on here would not have tried them.

Allure has got some good girls and got them because girls have chose them over Diamonds and Amour for all different reasons some its the reputation with Diamonds, and Amour with all the shit that has happened so they have in a  way right place at the right time for Allure.

But saying it there a carbon copy of Amour but only better for now anyway, They have took a lot of the ideas from Amour, writing about why people have been sacked, giving away competition bookings, the prices all the same etc so they knew that model worked and cashed in on it just hopefully left out the all the bad bits with Stacey.

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The problem with this is two fold. And its both caused by the agencies.

1. Firstly the agencies don't want to be done by the law. So they make it clear "you are only paying for the girls time nothing else". If that is the case they cannot then charge different rates for different girls due to one is "better" than the other as you are only paying for her time nothing else.

2. And the second and more importantly. The agencies don't seem to get rid of the dross. All three of the big agencies have about 40 or so girls on their books at any one time. And everyone deep down knows maybe at most 15 of them are worth a booking. The other 25 are just there to fill out the numbers to make the agency appear the best in the region.

Having more girls on the books aint always a good thing in my opinion not only for the girls but punters too as too many girls taken on can be too many crap girls, concentrate on better girls even if that means not as many girls on books, girls will get more jobs and if they are good at the job they will earn the money.

Those other 25 offer a mediocre time in comparison and sit there in resentment of the other popular girls as they are getting more bookings than them. (hence business plan above covering this for girls to see the likely reason why this is).

The agencies really should just get rid of these girls and truly just be 'elite' - the word gets thrown around enough but never is it justified. This is why review forums like this are so vital as punters don't know what they will be getting without reviews.

greychap

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The problem with this is two fold. And its both caused by the agencies.

1. Firstly the agencies don't want to be done by the law. So they make it clear "you are only paying for the girls time nothing else". If that is the case they cannot then charge different rates for different girls due to one is "better" than the other as you are only paying for her time nothing else.

2. And the second and more importantly. The agencies don't seem to get rid of the dross. All three of the big agencies have about 40 or so girls on their books at any one time. And everyone deep down knows maybe at most 15 of them are worth a booking. The other 25 are just there to fill out the numbers to make the agency appear the best in the region.

Those other 25 offer a mediocre time in comparison and sit there in resentment of the other popular girls as they are getting more bookings than them. (hence business plan above covering this for girls to see the likely reason why this is).

The agencies really should just get rid of these girls and truly just be 'elite' - the word gets thrown around enough but never is it justified. This is why review forums like this are so vital as punters don't know what they will be getting without reviews.

Having more girls on the books aint always a good thing in my opinion not only for the girls but punters too as too many girls taken on can be too many crap girls, concentrate on better girls even if that means not as many girls on books, girls will get more jobs and if they are good at the job they will earn the money.

Offline Third Man

Good idea Anth to stick it in one thread. However, I've posted a fair few comments all over the place, and I can't be chewed saying it all again. A couple of things though...

I bet a lot of guys have a budget, I do and i could usually do the equivalent of 8 half hours a month. If it becomes 60 , then I and a girl lose a punt somewhere

My income hasn't and won't increase by 20 per cent

Inflation is next to nothing, so 50 should if anything become 51

Spending 50 in one go is a relatively large purchase and its addictive, buying a tv is more expensive, but i'm not addicted to tv's.

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Good idea Anth to stick it in one thread. However, I've posted a fair few comments all over the place, and I can't be chewed saying it all again. A couple of things though...

I bet a lot of guys have a budget, I do and i could usually do the equivalent of 8 half hours a month. If it becomes 60 , then I and a girl lose a punt somewhere

My income hasn't and won't increase by 20 per cent

Inflation is next to nothing, so 50 should if anything become 51

Spending 50 in one go is a relatively large purchase and its addictive, buying a tv is more expensive, but i'm not addicted to tv's.

+1 (but a different budget!!)

Offline Tiger63

Quite simple for me Re prices........dont pay over £60 for 30 mins....and dont pay  over £110 for an hour.
I`ve done alright so far :D :D

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Just cut out the Pimp

It's amazing how in the North East despite now having electricity and the internet (and Adultwork) they still rely on Pimps to link up with pro$$ies       :unknown:

greychap

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Just cut out the Pimp

It's amazing how in the North East despite now having electricity and the internet (and Adultwork) they still rely on Pimps to link up with pro$$ies       :unknown:

They don't all want to cut the pimp out James, because the pimps and there agencies are the cheapest around in the North East, this is why Armageddon has started when one agency had decided to change there prices rather then staying the same for the last 2000 years BC. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Offline AnthG

Just cut out the Pimp

It's amazing how in the North East despite now having electricity and the internet (and Adultwork) they still rely on Pimps to link up with pro$$ies       :unknown:

The pimps are what is keeping the prices down. WG's in the North East are frikkin greedy. Without the pimps every girl would be either £120 to £150 per hour.

This topic is about one agency that was having some difficulty managing the competition in the region so went and displayed classic pro$$ie logic. Put the prices up even though they weren't getting bookings at the lower rate.

this is why Armageddon has started when one agency had decided to change there prices

But they are not changing their prices. They are just saying WGs on our books can just choose whatever rates they like.

WGs have shown time and time again they cannot make those types of choices as they get greedy and make very stupid ones with no logic in them whatsoever. This is why the pimps are needed in the North East in the first place.

I am sorry if this sounds cruel. But this idea is literally like a couple of new age parant's saying to their 10 year old you can choose what you want for your meals from now on and we will get you it.

What would result is for breakfast, Lunch and Dinner the kid would have Snickers, Mars Bars and crisps every time. And get malnutrition within a fortnight until the parent says. Right that's it no more stop. We are choosing what you eat now.
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The pimps are what is keeping the prices down. WG's in the North East are frikkin greedy. Without the pimps every girl would be either £120 to £150 per hour.

This topic is about one agency that was having some difficulty managing the competition in the region so went and displayed classic pro$$ie logic. Put the prices up even though they weren't getting bookings at the lower rate.

Anth not long ago you said Diamonds was taking £5,000 a day and earning a fortune only a couple of weeks ago now your saying they wernt getting the bookings. :D :unknown: :unknown:

Offline AnthG

Like I say to make my position clear. I do not want them to put their prices up. The reason why is like you say. Amour and Allure will follow suite not long after too.

Plus the other thing to factor in that people have not considered. If say for example Diamonds, Allure and Amour all upped their prices to £130 per hour and this was the new "going rate".

Do people honestly think the independents on AW would be content with this. Nope they would all universally start wanting £150 or £160 per hour for their independent rates. Just like now they want £120 to £130 per hour when the agencies are £100.

So am sorry if I am sounding cruel or twattish while stamping this home as firmly as I possibly can. But you can see this all happening.
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Offline Tiger63

Like I say to make my position clear. I do not want them to put their prices up. The reason why is like you say. Amour and Allure will follow suite not long after too.

Plus the other thing to factor in that people have not considered. If say for example Diamonds, Allure and Amour all upped their prices to £130 per hour and this was the new "going rate".

Do people honestly think the independents on AW would be content with this. Nope they would all universally start wanting £150 or £160 per hour for their independent rates. Just like now they want £120 to £130 per hour when the agencies are £100.

So am sorry if I am sounding cruel or twattish while stamping this home as firmly as I possibly can. But you can see this all happening.
Well thats fair enough Anth...but if guys just turned round and said"that too expensive" and stopped booking then they would have to take notice.
If it get above a certain   
 price I move on....doesnt matter who she is

Online jarrovian

Sorry anth just got past the first paragraph of your first post and just thought "here he goes again" mate you need to chill out, lifes too short

greychap

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Like I say to make my position clear. I do not want them to put their prices up. The reason why is like you say. Amour and Allure will follow suite not long after too.

Plus the other thing to factor in that people have not considered. If say for example Diamonds, Allure and Amour all upped their prices to £130 per hour and this was the new "going rate".

Do people honestly think the independents on AW would be content with this. Nope they would all universally start wanting £150 or £160 per hour for their independent rates. Just like now they want £120 to £130 per hour when the agencies are £100.
So am sorry if I am sounding cruel or twattish while stamping this home as firmly as I possibly can. But you can see this all happening.

To do with Diamonds are not the ones putting price up but the girls, without diamonds suggesting it it would never happen so its diamonds that would like to see it go higher too.

But to put a fair view on it Anth I do see your point about it and I am after all a punter too and I do know most people do have budgets and its a big shock in Newcastle to have an agency like diamonds do this after years at the same price and I too do like to have good deals and value for money but I can also see why this has happened.

If it was not diamonds it would be either one of the other agencies or a bunch of new people would arrive in the area and change it, it was always going to happen eventually.

Think of it another way no matter what agencies put there prices up there will always be some independent that will offer cheaper prices for people on a restricted budget some will cash in on the agency market.

Offline baresi

too long did not read ffs stop over analysing, just bend them over fuck them then go home

greychap

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Sorry anth just got past the first paragraph of your first post and just thought "here he goes again" mate you need to chill out, lifes too short

Life is too short to put yourself in a early grave by having a stroke or heart attack over the shock at Diamonds Putting prices up.  :lol: :lol:

godhomer

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If i was the owner of an agency i would be quite happy to see the other agencies putting up prices. I would keep my prices at the lower rate and welcome all the punters that moved to my agency to get a bit more value for their money.
To use a poor analogy a businessman once said it is better to sell large volume at a lower profit than a few items at a slightly higher profit.

TJ2015

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Wow, thought I'd got the Dragons Den website by mistake   :rolleyes:

I'm sure, like me, some of you have other 'hobbies' and no doubt year on year the cost of those hobbies increase, no matter how much I dislike that, how much kicking and screaming I do my choices are limited

I go along with the increase and continue as usual

I reduce my activities

I give up that hobby and find something else

However much I might not like it that's life

I'm ooot!


JIMI1234

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To use a poor analogy a businessman once said it is better to sell large volume at a lower profit than a few items at a slightly higher profit.

Glad you recognised it as being a really poor analogy...
Is that selling 1 unit at £100 profit OR 100 units at £1 profit each... = same profit (all else being equal).

Girls, agencies, whoever... they can test the market out with price increases and a natural ceiling will occur/limit them; beyond which they will make less profit.

Personally, no way would i do what a WG does for £100ph




vw

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Glad you recognised it as being a really poor analogy...
Is that selling 1 unit at £100 profit OR 100 units at £1 profit each... = same profit (all else being equal).
Less work with the £100 profit one to.

greychap

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Glad you recognised it as being a really poor analogy...
Is that selling 1 unit at £100 profit OR 100 units at £1 profit each... = same profit (all else being equal).

Girls, agencies, whoever... they can test the market out with price increases and a natural ceiling will occur/limit them; beyond which they will make less profit.

Personally, no way would i do what a WG does for £100ph
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I could not sell myself out for even 4 times per hour that the thought of pumping some smelly unattractive fat bird or licking a smelly fish hole would not be for me.

Saying that don't think anyone would pay for me and I would not blame them one bit :lol:

Offline Jamessn

I am earning 20% less this year than 2010.

Then I was using escorts northeast £120 an hour incall or outcall, yes same price, some gorgeous girls, nice flats and good service, I was there every week, a few years later they went downhill, crap flats and crap service, where are they now... Gone.

Now I am earning less I go less often, and usually now never more than 30 mins first time. So I am spending less.

The few times with diamonds have been very poor, I was debating giving the new folks a try, not now. They are incompetent.

So I use AW, Emily Fox, Keeva plus a few others, occasionally Allure, seldom Amour.

Emily is more expensive and I enjoy being with her, most of the girls think that they are worth more, but in comparison they are not. So when they start to charge more for rubbish, I and others stay away.





Offline Third Man

Life is too short to put yourself in a early grave by having a stroke or heart attack over the shock at Diamonds Putting prices up.  :lol: :lol:

That about sums it up ! I have used, and will continue to use Diamonds mostly as they have generally younger girls, and have more incalls. Allure, for example, are basically all outcall, no use to me. I need incalls or I can't punt. Going forward if the new set up is to allow girls to set their own prices, allowing for commission etc,  then the top girls will get their pricing right and show why they are popular and continue to do well. And good luck to them!

godhomer

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Glad you recognised it as being a really poor analogy...
Is that selling 1 unit at £100 profit OR 100 units at £1 profit each... = same profit (all else being equal).

Girls, agencies, whoever... they can test the market out with price increases and a natural ceiling will occur/limit them; beyond which they will make less profit.

Personally, no way would i do what a WG does for £100ph





Where did i say one item at £100 profit or 100 items at £1 profit ?  :dash: :dash: :dash: :dash:
I said it is better to sell a larger volume at a lower profit than a few items at a SLIGHTLY higher profit. Note the word slightly.

Rod trotter

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Im finding it hard to understand how many punters on here seem prepared to pay a higher price.

Im with Anth, soon it will be the norm and it will force a few to quit.

When they see some of our comments on here lately its like giving them all the thumbs up to charge more.

No i say, the agency should have a flat fee

Offline Partyguy

Couldn't be arsed to read more than the first few lines.

There are many agencies out there that have different prices for different ladies and the system works, if your that price conscious then pop up to Middlesbrough and pick a prostitute off the street OWO CIM £20 (do they still have a street scene there?)

The ladies can charge what the hell they like and their workload will reflect if we think they are worth that price.

As an example I'd made a booking for my birthday later on this month with one of the stars of the North East when I noticed I could get the same services I was after from a younger and IMHO more attractive lady not only is the second lady £10 cheaper I also get 3 hours for what I was prepared to pay for 2 hours. So now I'm going to get my dick sucked for an hour longer and still be a £10 better off.

Offline Mansell

Has this topic not be done to death. If we could set prices then there would be sense in taking about it. But we don't Agencies and WG's do, if they get it wrong bookings drop,  not our problem.

TJ2015

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Has this topic not be done to death. If we could set prices then there would be sense in taking about it. But we don't Agencies and WG's do, if they get it wrong bookings drop,  not our problem.

+1

When I go to the supermarket I dont get to set the prices but I do get to choose which supermarket I use

vw

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+1

When I go to the supermarket I dont get to set the prices but I do get to choose which supermarket I use
Then they occasionally have a price war !   Could even get variable prices on the typically dead days now price is not set in stone or even the occasional BOGOF in the dead periods!

yorkshire123

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+1

When I go to the supermarket I dont get to set the prices but I do get to choose which supermarket I use

This is true but also you get the choice to choose a premium brand or an own brand for less.

Personally I do believe that there is nothing wrong with agency's having a pricing structure that reflects a girls experience, performance & reliability.
However rather than the premium girls charging more the less experienced, over the hill, unreliable girls should be put in a lower pricing bracket.
Sorry if that's confusing but it makes perfect sense to me. 

TJ2015

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Then they occasionally have a price war !   Could even get variable prices on the typically dead days now price is not set in stone or even the occasional BOGOF in the dead periods!

True but when it comes to escorts I prefer to stay away from the 'Reduced to Clear' rack I'm not looking for a Limited Shelf

I know, I know, I'm as fluffy as the towel in a 4 girl Romanian flat  :rolleyes: