Author Topic: H24's newbie guide to punting in Bangkok  (Read 11360 times)

H24

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The purpose of this thread is to help and guide newbie punters in Bangkok. I think it is fair to say that Thailand is the punting capital of Asia. Unfortunately the best places also require the best planning and approach as everyone out there is after your money. No money no honey  :diablo:

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Which are the best areas to visit in Bangkok?

There are two main red light districts in Bangkok, Soi Cowboy and Soi Bangla  (Nana Plaza). The word Soi in Thai is a term used for a side street. Bangkok has one of the worst traffic that I have seen in Asia. Although you could get from one place to another in a taxi for no more than 150 baht, I still prefer to use the BTS Trains. BTS trains are everywhere and your ticket would probably cost you no more than 50 baht. Soi Cowboy is located at Asok Station and Soi Bangla is located at Nana Station, a few stops from each other.  :yahoo:

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What can I find in Soi Cowboy and Soi Bangla?

There are usually 3 different types of P4P (pay for pleasure):

1. Go-Go Bar
2. Blojob Bar
3. Soapy Massage

In this guide, I will discuss the Go-Go bar because it requires a lot of information and advice. Too many suckers get themselves into shit which you can easily avoid and at the same time, save yourselves a fair few amount of baht.

A Go-Go Bar is a place where the girls will dance on a stage (usually doing a wiggle waggle) for around 10 minutes. The line up would then change again for a new set of girls to dance on the stage. Each girl would have a number on their bikini and you would wave over the girl of your choice for a drink.  :dancegirl:

A girl would then expect a lady drink which shouldn't cost more than 200 baht.

Scam 1: Always, always and always say to the girl that " I will buy you one lady drink, so we can talk and get to know each other". If you do not do this, some girls would scam you for a double drink at 600 baht a pop. That'll put you down a quick £12 in 5 seconds. This is becoming very common now and can be easily avoided.

Now, once you've bought her a drink, now is the time where you can assess whether she speaks a word of English. All the girls will ask the same questions such as "Sawadeeka, what's your name? , where you from?, how old are you?, how long you stay, one lady drink for me?, you barfine me?". If you're looking for a girl with conversational English, it would be best to ask questions beyond the scripted answers. Such as "how has your week been?, is it always busy like this in the bar?" These type of questions will flush out the boring girls with very little English.

Now, if you're happy with the girl and you want to break your Bangkok virginity, you'll have to pay a barfine. A barfine is a fee paid to the bar to cover the lost revenue when the girl leaves. The going rate is between  600 - 1500 baht. Most establishments would have a 600 baht barfine but you do get the odd places robbing punters which leads me on to scam 2.

Scam 2: The bar can employ very hot girls who are known as cayotees. These girls are usually dressed in a skimpy tight outfit and can normally not be barfined. They are used to entice punters into the bar and scam them into lady drinks. Unfortunately, the poor bastard doesn't realise that's he's being scammed until he asks the barfine question and gets told that she's either on her period or does not go with customers. Always confirm with the girl whether she leaves with customers and can be barfined.

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So, what can I get for my baht?

Before you barfine the girl, you would agree to either a short time (ST) or a long time (LT) service. ST are usually 1-2 hours and a single pop unless stated otherwise. Most girls would allow 2 pops but if you do not confirm, don't complain later. Remember, everyone in Bangkok is after your baht. Some establishments have rooms upstairs to do the deed and it shouldn't cost you more than 500 baht. Most girls will know of local ST hotels which are very basic and again, shouldn't cost more than 500 baht.

LT is an overnight service where you would take the girl back to your place and she would leave around 12pm the following day. Most girls will stay and honor this but a few dont which leads me on to scam 3.

Scam 3: There are a few girls who will try various tricks in the book to leave before the agreed time. Common excuses are that she doesn't feel very well or that her friend is in trouble and needs her help. If this happens to you, do not give her the amount agreed for LT, give her 1000 baht and show her the way out.

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what's the common ST and LT price?

This question can literally start a new thread. But I will make it very brief. In Bangkok, you will have punters from all over the world but, Thai people see foreigners very differently to us. Americans, Europeans and Australians (white skinned) known as farangs. Arabs known as Arabs, South Asian's known as Indians (illiterate Thai mentality), any dark skin as Africans and any oriental as Japanese (333).

Depending on your nationality, you can be treated differently and although you may feel that these girls are prostitutes, they also do an undercover vetting process. Farangs and Japs shouldn't have a problem but the Indians may be asked to pay a little more. This isn't always the case but it can happen and that is why I'm including it in this guide.

Now comes the very interesting part. Our Japanese friends are making it very difficult for us and I'm seeing a change in the attitude of a "few" bar girls. The Japs are referred to as 333, three inches, three minutes and 3000 baht. They are throwing money away at these girls and screwing it up for us all. In Japan the P4P scene is very expensive so, for them it makes no sense to haggle on the price. I have heard from various girls that the Japs have paid 5000 baht for ST and some have even paid this amount just to sit with a girl back at the hotel. And for this reason folk, you will find that some girls will only go with the Japs. It's nothing personal, just business and as I've said before, "everyone in Bangkok is after your baht"

For everyone else, the going rate at the moment is 1500 baht for ST and 3000 baht for LT. Girls will usually start much higher than this but I would keep firm on these prices.


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Offline Jerboa

Yes a good intro guide for newbies, but you got your soi's mixed up Soi Bangla is in Patong beach Phuket, did you mean to say Soi 4 (Nana) where Nana Plaza is located?

Your correct about the Japs, I spent a night in the Rainbow bars in June, got chatting to several girls, one of who insisted her ST price was 3000b, she was surprised when I told her I can do a ST in UK for less than her rates.

H24

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Yes a good intro guide for newbies, but you got your soi's mixed up Soi Bangla is in Patong beach Phuket, did you mean to say Soi 4 (Nana) where Nana Plaza is located?

Your correct about the Japs, I spent a night in the Rainbow bars in June, got chatting to several girls, one of who insisted her ST price was 3000b, she was surprised when I told her I can do a ST in UK for less than her rates.

Yes, you're right. Any chance I could edit that post, can't seem to find the option?

I should have written Soi 4. I've had Soi Bangla in my head because that's where my last punt was. Down Soi Sea Dragon in Patong shagging this fucking sexy tattooed girl. I need to find her again Q1 2016, she deserves another pounding.

Offline Vivago

There are usually 3 different types of P4P (pay for pleasure):

1. Go-Go Bar
2. Blojob Bar
3. Soapy Massage


Good effort but there are more than 3 ways to find your evening's entertainment in Bangkok. Are you not forgetting:

4. Oil Massage.
5. Streetwalkers.
6. Freelance hangouts such as the Thermae and Biergarden.
7. The burgeoning online meat market on such as Craigs List and Badoo.
8. Escort agencies.

I'm sure that there are probably others that I haven't mentioned.
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I recently got back from Thailand and this thread was really useful. Thanks OP  :hi:

Offline Jerboa

I recently got back from Thailand and this thread was really useful. Thanks OP  :hi:

Good for you, you plan on sharing some details on here?

flava360

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thanks for the info im planning on going to thailand soon and have a few questions (apologies if they seem obvious)

when your talking to the girl do you agree the fee with her then and there and find out what services they provide? is it common for girls to agree on services in the bar but when they get back to the hotel they refuse?


 also iv made an account on thaicupid for the crack and have got a lot of messages very quickly but havent paid for a full subscription so i cant actually view the messages, is it worth paying for it have any punters had any success or is it a waste of time? cheers

Offline Jerboa

thanks for the info im planning on going to thailand soon and have a few questions (apologies if they seem obvious)

when your talking to the girl do you agree the fee with her then and there and find out what services they provide? is it common for girls to agree on services in the bar but when they get back to the hotel they refuse?


 also iv made an account on thaicupid for the crack and have got a lot of messages very quickly but havent paid for a full subscription so i cant actually view the messages, is it worth paying for it have any punters had any success or is it a waste of time? cheers

Welcome to the forum, punting in Thailand isn't like punting in the west, agreeing to a fee in the bar before barfining her doesn't always need to happen, some of the top gogo divas will probably ask you how much you pay before hand, but many bargirls and freelancers won't even mention money, you don't pay by the hour, only short time or long time.

As for thai dating sites, it can be a bit of a hassle, can you pull birds back in UK? Don't expect the girls all to be hookers masquerading as good girls.

flava360

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thanks mate, so i presume you still discuss services that they are willing to provide in the bar though before bar-fining her?

And yeah i dont have issues pulling in the Uk, i did put down my salary on the website which may have had to do with the high number of replies though lol, I made the account i suppose to get a free shag or 2 or at least find a freelancer who I at least know will be what im looking for before i even get there, are either likely to happen do you think?

Offline Jerboa

You can discuss services in the bar, most girls do the usual OWO, kissing, sex in various positions, if you want something like CIM, anal, rimming, best to ask first, as not all girls will just like anywhere.

Freebies are doable, done it quite a lot myself, but then I don't look like the typical sex tourist, and it takes a bit of work too, not all hot young Thai girls will jump into bed with you just because you're farang, if you stay in a hotel on lower sukhumvit, or go to Pattaya, most good girls will suss you're into bargirls, and either want payment same same bar lady, or fuck you off, it's a lot easier especially for a first time visitor, to just stick to P4P.
For freelancers try using Badoo.

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Offline momochan

Sorry to bump an old thread but why do they charge indians more ? I guess cos they like haggling and are a bit parsimonious ?


Scam 3: There are a few girls who will try various tricks in the book to leave before the agreed time. Common excuses are that she doesn't feel very well or that her friend is in trouble and needs her help. If this happens to you, do not give her the amount agreed for LT, give her 1000 baht and show her the way out.

This question can literally start a new thread. But I will make it very brief. In Bangkok, you will have punters from all over the world but, Thai people see foreigners very differently to us. Americans, Europeans and Australians (white skinned) known as farangs. Arabs known as Arabs, South Asian's known as Indians (illiterate Thai mentality), any dark skin as Africans and any oriental as Japanese (333).

Depending on your nationality, you can be treated differently and although you may feel that these girls are prostitutes, they also do an undercover vetting process. Farangs and Japs shouldn't have a problem but the Indians may be asked to pay a little more. This isn't always the case but it can happen and that is why I'm including it in this guide.

Now comes the very interesting part. Our Japanese friends are making it very difficult for us and I'm seeing a change in the attitude of a "few" bar girls. The Japs are referred to as 333, three inches, three minutes and 3000 baht. They are throwing money away at these girls and screwing it up for us all. In Japan the P4P scene is very expensive so, for them it makes no sense to haggle on the price. I have heard from various girls that the Japs have paid 5000 baht for ST and some have even paid this amount just to sit with a girl back at the hotel. And for this reason folk, you will find that some girls will only go with the Japs. It's nothing personal, just business and as I've said before, "everyone in Bangkok is after your baht"

For everyone else, the going rate at the moment is 1500 baht for ST and 3000 baht for LT. Girls will usually start much higher than this but I would keep firm on these prices.


More to follow....

Sorry to bump an old thread but why do they charge indians more ? I guess cos they like haggling and are a bit parsimonious ?

Very good thread I'm looking for somewhere to travel this summer and I have thailand and colombia listed I've been to colombia twice before. But never Thailand how are black men treated over there as I refuse to pay more to a prossie based on my skin colour

Offline Jerboa

Sorry to bump an old thread but why do they charge indians more ? I guess cos they like haggling and are a bit parsimonious ?

Ok yes Indians are not well liked In Thailand and the bargirls, mainly because the Indian men who go there are on a works outing from their job, they live 2 or 4 to a room, share one beer between three, and like to haggle the girls down in price, of course this is a generalisation, but Thai's are big on generalisations, bargirls by quoting a Indian a high rate has no intention of going with him, it's the thai way of saving face. On the other hand if you're Indian, and prove your not same same, by buying your own beer, and offering a ladydrink and clean and respectful, bargirls will have no problem.

Very good thread I'm looking for somewhere to travel this summer and I have thailand and colombia listed I've been to colombia twice before. But never Thailand how are black men treated over there as I refuse to pay more to a prossie based on my skin colour

You might get some girls who scared of chocolate man, but you will also find many who aren't, US hip hop culture is popular amongst the young Thai's, and I've met many black guys in Patts in clubs or bars.
Girls that are scared might be like this young lady. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36f-6my1LZs


Ok yes Indians are not well liked In Thailand and the bargirls, mainly because the Indian men who go there are on a works outing from their job, they live 2 or 4 to a room, share one beer between three, and like to haggle the girls down in price, of course this is a generalisation, but Thai's are big on generalisations, bargirls by quoting a Indian a high rate has no intention of going with him, it's the thai way of saving face. On the other hand if you're Indian, and prove your not same same, by buying your own beer, and offering a ladydrink and clean and respectful, bargirls will have no problem.

You might get some girls who scared of chocolate man, but you will also find many who aren't, US hip hop culture is popular amongst the young Thai's, and I've met many black guys in Patts in clubs or bars.
Girls that are scared might be like this young lady. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36f-6my1LZs
Loooooool  you just made my afternoon nice one  :thumbsup:)

Offline Vivago

Loooooool  you just made my afternoon nice one  :thumbsup:)

One of the top contributors to ISG's Pattaya thread is black and from the evidence of his posts, he certainly doesn't go short, including getting freebies from curious off duty bargirls in discos... :D
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Dont forget to mention the certain 'Arab' owned bars in Soi Cowboy where Check bin scams are terrible. Usually double what you pay and if you argue the bouncers will soon sort you out.

The interestingly named Analisa massage in Bangkok is worth a visit.
The one and a half hour prostate massage is very good.
After a shower and half an hour of back massage, you turn over and the girl keeps your cock just beneath the point of no return for the next 45 minutes.
This prolonged 'edging' and the prostate massage produces a very big ejaculation.
When you think you can't hang on any longer, the rubber glove goes on and the finger goes up your bum.
The orgasm is mind blowing.

I find this post a useful guide and a good read during this lock down.

I intend to make my first trip to Bangkok, Pataya and maybe Phuket.

Was a bit sad about the bad reputation of the Indian men and hope I don't get poor treatment.

Look forward to reading more from visitors with full details of places visited and accommodation used.

Offline METEOR

I find this post a useful guide and a good read during this lock down.

I intend to make my first trip to Bangkok, Pataya and maybe Phuket.

Was a bit sad about the bad reputation of the Indian men and hope I don't get poor treatment.

Look forward to reading more from visitors with full details of places visited and accommodation used.

I think once they know you're a UK Indian you'll be fine.

Offline ShyGuy.

I find this post a useful guide and a good read during this lock down.

I intend to make my first trip to Bangkok, Pataya and maybe Phuket.

Was a bit sad about the bad reputation of the Indian men and hope I don't get poor treatment.

Look forward to reading more from visitors with full details of places visited and accommodation used.

Don't worry, it's really not that bad - speaking as a Brit Indian here, had my fourth trip set for next month (obviously now cancelled). Trust me, I wouldn't have booked if I didn't thoroughly enjoy the previous three times!

On massage shops, the apparently regular ones in the streets around Sukhumvit and Skytrain offer possibilities. If you are a woman they offer you a foot massage visible from the street. If a man they take you inside or upstairs and charge for a regular massage during which extras are on offer. Need to haggle though as prices start at London levels.

Offline METEOR

On massage shops, the apparently regular ones in the streets around Sukhumvit and Skytrain offer possibilities. If you are a woman they offer you a foot massage visible from the street. If a man they take you inside or upstairs and charge for a regular massage during which extras are on offer. Need to haggle though as prices start at London levels.

Last year I walked around I think soi 11 or 13 looking for a normal massage. Found a place and an absolute unit of a women was given to me for the massage. Great I thought a nice relaxing hard massage. Still got offered extras despite it being obvious I wasn't turned on haha

I worked in Thailand for a while.
There's a sports bar down Sukhumvit Road, in Bangkok, near Asok skytrain station, I used to go in for a pint or two.
There are usually some very attractive waitresses that play pool in between serving customers.
One of them looked at me and asked me if I wanted a game, so I agreed.
She whispered in my ear, 'If you beat me you can fuck me'
I must have gone there another eight or ten times before I finally beat her.
I still had to pay though.  :D

Offline METEOR

I worked in Thailand for a while.
There's a sports bar down Sukhumvit Road, in Bangkok, near Asok skytrain station, I used to go in for a pint or two.
There are usually some very attractive waitresses that play pool in between serving customers.
One of them looked at me and asked me if I wanted a game, so I agreed.
She whispered in my ear, 'If you beat me you can fuck me'
I must have gone there another eight or ten times before I finally beat her.
I still had to pay though.  :D
That the one with pool tables out the back? I popped in there last year for a drink and it's alright. Do remember a hot women but wasn't sure if it was a ladyboy!

I think either options were a possibility, depending on which night you went in.  :D

Offline Marmalade

Perhaps someone could put the intro (with the station edited) onto the UKP Wiki. It will get lost otherwise.  :)


another great place if you dont want to go to a hooker hotspot for freelancers surprisingly was Koh San road.  I was there at the beginning of the year with friends not thinking about punting just looking for a few drinks and a kind of club style night out.  This is a more tourist heavy area and there are plenty of Thai wgs there to choose from but spread out.  if you dont get one they will usually go to the after hour clubs which a tuk tuk will take you to for free.

in my experience talking with white girls normally made the thai wgs seem a bit cheaper for the night. 
I preferred getting a wg after a night out from this sort of a vibe as opposed to soi cowboy etc