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Author Topic: Stevenage policeman charged with running brothel  (Read 7074 times)

Offline Jacob

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.....He was allegedoing exactly the same as the oft lauded houses in MK do yet he got busted in Herts for what passes for acceptable in Bucks.
AFoAF

It's worse than that. Thames Valley Police who cover Buckinghamshire seemingly have a 'zero tolerence' policy in other areas, Oxfordshire is an example of this.

Offline Brian

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Good old "Brian", defender of the good name of Herts prossies.  What would they do without you?


Thanks. Kim of Stevenage is a lady who works alone therefore she does not run a brothel. So it is nice to be able to put the record straight and say that she is not the lady involved in the article about the PCSO.

The clampdown by the police in Stevenage started when Madam Becky's Kittens opened a branch in the town. A local WG took it upon herself to phone the police 40 times a day saying that there were dodgy punters hanging around in the car park behind the Kittens flat and so it wasn't safe for the local children. This was of course total bullshit. But the police had to act and they closed a number of flats around Stevenage a few days later.

Offline Mellow

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Thanks. Kim of Stevenage is a lady who works alone therefore she does not run a brothel. So it is nice to be able to put the record straight and say that she is not the lady involved in the article about the PCSO.

The clampdown by the police in Stevenage started when Madam Becky's Kittens opened a branch in the town. A local WG took it upon herself to phone the police 40 times a day saying that there were dodgy punters hanging around in the car park behind the Kittens flat and so it wasn't safe for the local children. This was of course total bullshit. But the police had to act and they closed a number of flats around Stevenage a few days later.

Forgive me if I sound stupid, Brian. How do you know all this? Especially of Police "Intelligence" (oxymoron aside)?

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Forgive me if I sound stupid, Brian. How do you know all this? Especially of Police "Intelligence" (oxymoron aside)?

I've always wondered,too, about the inside info proffered even when "Brian" was being a troll on PN.

I have been at Kim's when there was at least one other girl present - I was with that girl a few times at her place.

AFoAF

Offline Mellow

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I've always wondered,too, about the inside info proffered even when "Brian" was being a troll on PN.
I never believed him to be trolling there, still don't

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I have been at Kim's when there was at least one other girl present - I was with that girl a few times at her place.

So you, AFOAF are suggesting that Kim the brothel keeper just got lucky at the time of the clampdown. hmm

Hmm, memory defects abound and time for trawling through old posts limited but ISTR that Brian himself allowed that he was intentionally provocative over on the other site under a different moniker. 

I am not saying that Kim is/was a brothel keeper nor am I passing comment on her luck, local connections or the efficacy of Stevenage copper's enforcement programmes.

As Joe Friday said "Just the facts" (wiki Dragnet if you don't get my drift)

AFoAF

Offline Brian

Yes, as previously explained on here - the character of "Interested" on auto-censored was a spoof. I have not been trolling at all since I joined UKP.

Anyway, if you still think Kim is the lady featured in this news article, then what was the name of the road you visited her premises on? The article names Silam Road and Kim has not operated from there.

Discretion!  I used to park in the swimming pool car park and walk just a few minutes up the hill.

Do local papers ever get details wrong?  Do members of this board ever have sex with people that aren't their partners?  ;-)

AFoAF

Offline House Of Divine

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Good old "Brian", defender of the good name of Herts prossies.  What would they do without you?

I have some sympathy for the dude who was busted, CSO or wotnot.  He was allegedoing exactly the same as the oft lauded houses in MK do yet he got busted in Herts for what passes for acceptable in Bucks.

THAT stinks... no matter what the quality of the girls he provided "employment" for or how dumb he was to get caught.

AFoAF

He is not doing anything similar to the brothels in MK he is an acting Police officer of sorts. Have you actually looked at the internet there are thousands of brothels in EVERY town in the country and they have been around undisturbed for a lot longer than any of the MK establishments.

For the record my husband left the police force 9 years ago so why are people still so bloody bothered about it. This guy was an acting officer of sorts so it was inevitable he would get busted the rest of us just do what we can, while we can and it is strangely the same punters that slag us off that use us daily whilst in that very British fashion wring their hands and shake their heads when a brothel is busted.

Offline Mellow

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and it is strangely the same punters that slag us off that use us daily whilst in that very British fashion wring their hands and shake their heads when a brothel is busted.
Why is it so strange that punters are concerned about their welfare when visiting illegal brothels?

HoD has hit it on the head.  Don't try to play on both sides of the street - you get run over.  I've never slagged off HoD, thought they should be in line for some kind of award for "Services to former and current members of the Armed Services" or something a bit grand.  Royal Warrant?  Probably not ;-)

Mellow!  ALL brothels are illegal.  Sole practitioners are not doing anything illegal, ie. not running a brothel but the law has set a very low threshold for "organised" sex trade. If you are very risk adverse, only visit indies and make sure they aren't sharing accommodation.

I understand that two ladies alternating days in a flat are running a brothel even if they don't share income/clients/anybloodything.  So how far in time does it take for a given flat to become a non-brothel?  An interesting legal conundrum.

I once knew an escort that shared a flat with another prossie and it wasn't a brothel - the other "girl" was a transsexual.

I wonder about hotels... how likely is it that a given Holiday Inn etc might have more than one prossie in residence in a given day/week/month?  Does that mean that I am running a risk if I book a room to have an out call service there?  Am I then brothelkeeping??? Is the hotel?  ;-)

The law is an ass but it has a nasty bite.

AFoAF

Offline Jimmyredcab

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Why is it so strange that punters are concerned about their welfare when visiting illegal brothels?


It is not against the law to visit an "illegal" brothel -------- unless the girls are found to be trafficked against their will.

Offline Brian

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Discretion!  I used to park in the swimming pool car park and walk just a few minutes up the hill.

Do local papers ever get details wrong?  Do members of this board ever have sex with people that aren't their partners?  ;-)

AFoAF

Yes this place you visited for Kim was not in Silam Road. The place named in the paper is Silam Road and the paper would most certainly have got the details right as they are quoting details of a court case.


Offline Brian

And another update...

http://www.thecomet.net/news/pcso_on_brothel_charge_to_appear_at_crown_court_1_781851

It has never been established if this is actually Kim of Stevenage.

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Offline Brian

No, they get paid about 25k a year. The hobby bobbies work free of charge in the evening and at weekends.

Offline James999

And another update...

http://www.thecomet.net/news/pcso_on_brothel_charge_to_appear_at_crown_court_1_781851

It has never been established if this is actually Kim of Stevenage.

Then Stop mentioning her Fucking name, it seems YOU who keep linking the story to Kim (Whoever the fuck she is) oh and PLEASE don't spend ages telling us who she is.

Offline Marmalade

Well said, James. Brian is the pet gremlin on here. Not exactly a troll, more just an annoying little ****. He'll complain I'm ganging up on him in a minute. But actually the puzzle is why we put up with him. Someone who has time and energy will clobber him when he goes over the score.

:rolleyes: :cool:  :blush:

Brian: we're trying to be nice to you mate . . .  :kiss:

Offline Lucy chambers

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Are you mean men picking on poor Bri again? Dont you know the time and effort he and Interested put into to being Top Mole/Master of the Game?

Gosh.


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Offline Brian

Actually, a number of people on auto-censored said it was Kim when the story first broke in the papers. But I said I don't think it is her.

Unless there was another prossie in the Brent Court tower on Silam Road, Stevenage then take it from me...it was Kim.

Offline James999

Unless there was another prossie in the Brent Court tower on Silam Road, Stevenage then take it from me...it was Kim.

So are you telling us that Brian was lying to us all of the time?

Time is key here. She was raided in July (Brent Court flat). She then started working elsewhere in Stevenage, reportedly her home. It appears that she has given even this up as her ad is no longer in the Comet.

Just found this article after much searching to find out what happened to Kim. I was a regular of Kim's and was one of those 'special' clients allowed to ignore the 'no sex without' rule that was scrawlled on a little scrap of paper and stuck to the wardrobe door. I knew her as Debbie, knew she was married and knew she has a grown up daughter so put her age at mid-40s (mind you, in Stevenage there are plenty of 30-something grandmothers). She did work with a succession of other girls, but never more than one other at a time. Most seemed to last a few months before falling out with her and being replaced.


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