List of post-op trans who advert on AdultWork as female

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Think that one might just be an ugly woman, pumps  .
Unfortunate bone structure and what not.

you could say that about every entry to this thread.  Where would it end? 

[pumps]

Think that one might just be an ugly woman, pumps  .
Unfortunate bone structure and what not.

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What's the opinion on this one? unfortunate bone structure and what not here too?

Genuine Question.


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[DylanPerry]

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I'd be inclined to say that this one is mandem. Especially for mid 30s British...odd facial features.
But you're right, I could apply my previous comment to any on this thread 
Not sure how or where I draw the line...a bit of je ne sais quoi.

[pumps]

I'd be inclined to say that this one is mandem. Especially for mid 30s British...odd facial features.
But you're right, I could apply my previous comment to any on this thread 
Not sure how or where I draw the line...a bit of je ne sais quoi.

Here's exactly how everyone draws the line....

Q: Do I want to fuck it?

A: YES!  - then its not a man, just had an unfortunate hand dealt by mother nature, oh boy! I wanna get my hands on that bumbum.

A: NO! - Its clearly a man.


 

[DylanPerry]

LOL true most of the time.

But RE awID 4476347 I definitely don't wanna fuck that one 

Logan and awID 5054202 probably proves your hypothesis   

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See next post please

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Hey Logan, I guess this was Safira who You saw in Paddington?
There are a couple of neutral reviews too but it doesn’t seem to have been indexed?
Did you keep her number as she’s not reading her emails? Ta

[last_days_of_logan]

LOL true most of the time.

But RE awID 4476347 I definitely don't wanna fuck that one 

Logan and awID 5054202 probably proves your hypothesis   

axelrod please keep me out of pumps' cross hairs on this topic, i have hopefully reached a mutual understanding with him

The sofia girl for instance is one i saw in 2017 i think? She was beautiful IMO, very natural attractiveness ... i would be interested to know what you think of her as well?... in these pics and other profiles she had if i could fine them. From the women you have seen /mentioned / reviewed it doesnt seem that strong facial features would be enough to make you in particular think "oh thats a man right there for sure" or strong indication of it etc

but on the real, it would be interesting to know what other people think with regards to how they identify a TS etc. I actually feel its a cultural / environmental and racial exposure or lack thereof  alongside with life experiences in punting.
Then there is the whole "mud slinging" thing...if someone says its a man then others stop and look at it differently actually trying to find the man in there ... almost like a false positive or self fulfilling prophecy.

one thing is for sure...its a hard field to navigate at times

[last_days_of_logan]

Hey Logan, I guess this was Safira who You saw in Paddington?
There are a couple of neutral reviews too but it doesn’t seem to have been indexed?
Did you keep her number as she’s not reading her emails? Ta

yeah thats the name, safira.

unfortunately no....i had her whats app number but that phone and sim i used is toast.

her performance could have been much better but i put it down to the kind of punt i like having and also she claimed at the time she was sensitive cause she was nearing her period. probably just didnt want me going hard.

in retrospect if someone went there for vanilla GFE i think there is a good chance they would enjoy themselves.

I'll see if i have her number stored anywhere else

[last_days_of_logan]

yeah this is the review

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=183599.0

apologies to all readers for the derailment of the thread...hopefully its not spoiling the thread

[DylanPerry]

Logan, your mami chula looks decent in that photo...but at the same time I can see (as did pumps) why ts&w brough it here.
Would be interesting to see more pics of her. Body, etc.

From the women you have seen /mentioned / reviewed it doesnt seem that strong facial features would be enough to make you in particular think "oh thats a man right there for sure" or strong indication of it etc

Elaborate. What did you mean by that 👀👀👀. That I've seen a few munters? 

Regardless, dare I say that a TS can have an attractive (and feminine...naurally and/or cosmetically achieved) face...thus, facial beauty isn't always a tell.

There are many tells, some more bonafide than others (there are many false truths)...but I won't get into those now. In fact, after recent Emily Bird case I'm gonna stop commenting on such TS speculation (I think pumps 'retired' before as well...wonder what brough him back  ). Will start to keep my thoughts and observations to myself, and just take in others. Stay clear from those with question marks, etc.
I don't think I would take it that badly if I 'accidentally' saw a TS. Would probably be grossed out if I did RO, but I'd get over it.
I'm more worried about them in the civvy world lol. Have heard a few stories now, including about a geezer who married one and didn't know until down the line when they couldn't have kids 

[last_days_of_logan]

Logan, your mami chula looks decent in that photo...but at the same time I can see (as did pumps) why ts&w brough it here.
Would be interesting to see more pics of her. Body, etc.

the ones i have from my review are here :- https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=183599.0   , sylvester might have more

completely understand, I'm not denying that anyone can see a potential man in anything...end of the day both males and females are products of a male and female fucking so both should share traits to some degree of both genders...the thing is though i didnt actually grow up in this country and a significant amount of the people i roll with are non white and quite a few are not from 1st world countries. Their outlook as to what they find attractive i find is very different than a stereotyped white person for instance.

i have had first hand experience with quite a few white guys say that black women for instance are ugly, look like men and in more racially charged situations will liken us to animals or that we all look alike. but thats really just because of some combination of one or all of their culture, up bringing , enviroment and exposure.

i personally find it hard to be certain someone is a post op without obvious signs (big feet/ hands, distinctive facial tone changes, lack of hips and back arch, broad shoulders or shoulders that are as wide of wider than hips, adams apple, intense and strong jawline/chin etc etc) cause i dont want to assume anything based solely on nationality or racial features for instance. If i try hard enough i can be convinced that quite a bit of these women on AW could very well be guy but i would have to look with an incredibly biased view and upon direction / instructions from others. (having said that i have been to see someone that i thought .... "this could be a man but damn that ass is big..i'll risk it"  , funny story for another time)

i am really interested to know what makes people (aside from pumps as i have been over this with him a few times) go to the "i think this is a man" comment with decent conviction....as a lesson to me if nothing else so i can spot them better, brazilian martian for example taught me how to spot a photo shop ...and pics have never been the same since.

[last_days_of_logan]

Elaborate. What did you mean by that 👀👀👀. That I've seen a few munters? 

Regardless, dare I say that a TS can have an attractive (and feminine...naurally and/or cosmetically achieved) face...thus, facial beauty isn't always a tell.

LOL, nah...some of the women you comment on i personally think are striking.....but they have strong facial definition and sharp ones at that that makes them 'uniquely' beautiful....thus the more 'run of the mill' traits in a woman's face i dont think would shake you in particular..... its like having a worldly view as opposed to someone saying "straight jawline? = MAN 100%!!"

and i agree facial beauty alone isnt always the key..... you can have men that look like women and vice versa..... and i had a very humbling experience with someone from a particular race and i said something which apparently ( i didnt appreciate it at the time) was INCREDIBLY racist and said "you know i cant tell if he or she is a man or a woman" ..they had short-sh hair and wore casual clothing with a big blazer jacket and when talking about them i kept on saying "they". turns out that there was a racial undertone to what i said when said about their race in particular. i apologised but with my exposure, or lack thereof, facially i wasnt able to tell the difference...

There are many tells, some more bonafide than others (there are many false truths)...but I won't get into those now. In fact, after recent Emily Bird case I'm gonna stop commenting on such TS speculation (I think pumps 'retired' before as well...wonder what brough him back  ). Will start to keep my thoughts and observations to myself, and just take in others. Stay clear from those with question marks, etc.

maybe we can start a thread on it? educate less knowing punters on what we think they are and how to spot them? i might start one up

what happened with thie "Emily bird" anyway?

pumps did indeed retire, i think he still is kind of is ? 

I don't think I would take it that badly if I 'accidentally' saw a TS. Would probably be grossed out if I did RO, but I'd get over it.
I'm more worried about them in the civvy world lol. Have heard a few stories now, including about a geezer who married one and didn't know until down the line when they couldn't have kids 

very well said ..i am very glad for you to say that, it's a certain level of maturity and security that you have that worries me that some posters dont have. The way they react if they think that someone got the better of them but they genuinely thought it was a woman....its no big deal...you are still a man attracted to a woman fellas, you wont die...learn and move on

as for the guy marrying a dude he thought was a woman. thats hardcore...   complete sham marriage

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i have had first hand experience with quite a few white guys say that black women for instance are ugly, look like men and in more racially charged situations will liken us to animals or that we all look alike. but thats really just because of some combination of one or all of their culture, up bringing , enviroment and exposure.

You forgot crass fucking ignorance, if you don't mind me saying  .

[last_days_of_logan]

You forgot crass fucking ignorance, if you don't mind me saying  .

actually i had that in my thinking, if people hate me or pass judgement on me cause of my skin color or 'how i look' from a racial back ground then i cant help that except represent myself as best as i can. a lot of time their ignorance is a lack of exposure to other people and other culture while being exposed to generations of biased cultures against other races....they dont stand a chance in how they end up sometimes... or how they see other people

who was that celebrity that was blasted on twitter recently that said a black athlete looked like an ape?i cant remember her name...

i'm telling you man, its where you are from and what you are exposed to that makes you see things in other people a lot of the times

[pumps]

start a new thread logan....


lets not take this one off track. 

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lol FYI I just retired from circle-like debates on the matter. 


they go absolutely nowhere, we can't go definitive on the matter either way..... it just is what it is.

 

All I put out there is I worked in Asia for some years and punted extremely heavily (before that I was pretty ignorant to the fact there could be post-op trans in existence let alone prostituting as women).... So experience fucking them is all I have and learning to see, feel  the signs, its not a science I admit I will be wrong at times... but if a prossie is ugly and looks like a bloke, who cares... we aren't calling out innocent civvie women minding their own business. etc etc.


Even if we tried to get into the inner workings of somebody's mind .....ultimately it would boil down to this...

lol

Q: Do I want to fuck it?

A: YES!  - then its not a man, just had an unfortunate hand dealt by mother nature, oh boy! I wanna get my hands on that bumbum.

A: NO! - Its clearly a man.


 

[last_days_of_logan]

start a new thread logan....


lets not take this one off track. 

agreed..... title will hopefully encourage debate

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What's the opinion on this one? unfortunate bone structure and what not here too?

I noticed she has a lot of pictures blocking view of her vagina when she has her legs stretched. You can see it on her twitter and Southern-Charms page.

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yeah this is the review

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=183599.0

apologies to all readers for the derailment of the thread...hopefully its not spoiling the thread

Thanks for the review. I've bumped your review with her current AW profile.

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I noticed she has a lot of pictures blocking view of her vagina when she has her legs stretched. You can see it on her twitter and Southern-Charms page.

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yeah, if that was not a bloke originally, then butt fucking ugly springs to mind, either way, off to the blacklist

[Belgarion]

yeah, if that was not a bloke originally, then butt fucking ugly springs to mind, either way, off to the blacklist

That's a bloke

[pumps]

I noticed she has a lot of pictures blocking view of her vagina when she has her legs stretched. You can see it on her twitter and Southern-Charms page.

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yeah, of course it was a bloke.


Theres probably 20 punters who'd argue the toss over it though lol

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[testuser]

Here's exactly how everyone draws the line....

Q: Do I want to fuck it?

A: YES!  - then its not a man, just had an unfortunate hand dealt by mother nature, oh boy! I wanna get my hands on that bumbum.

A: NO! - Its clearly a man.


 

I can't fault people who are content with that but I think it's very problematic when that's imposed on other people.

If I wanted a man to piss in my mouth then I would book a male escort or dress up as a bush (got to feel sorry force special forces and their choice of camouflage). As far as I'm concerned fashioning oneself into the appearance of what you want to buy because they're not selling what you're buying, lady piss then that's just fraudulent. If I wanted the mere illusion of the real thing then I've just buy a sex doll and pump orange juice into its pseudo pussy cavity. It doesn't matter how convincing the fraud it, it's still fraud.

Honesty is the best policy but when that's not upheld of course we have the need for efforts and threads like this.

I'm stuck in the unfortunate situation of if it might at all possibly be a man or fake then it's a no go, can't risk it with quite rare exception and that's unfortunate. There are natural women with sometimes a little bit of a masculine face or bone features that normally would be a great prospect never the less but excitement is ruined by that it might just be a man.

Worse than that I wonder if it could steer people towards workers more likely to be trafficked or basically authentic women so to avoid traps.

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yeah, of course it was a bloke.


Theres probably 20 punters who'd argue the toss over it though lol

Women also get a bit more masculine as they get older though for a number of reasons. Like bone development is slowed or stunted in women compare to men but over time female bone development starts to catch up a little. Regardless first thing you see on that page is a man's face staring right at you and that's good enough for me to say yup it's a man/close enough, next.

Another theory is that she's been guzzling down so much cum that it's become an effective form of HRT.

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Another theory is that she's been guzzling down so much cum that it's become an effective form of HRT.

 

[Toddjones]

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[claretandblue]

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revolting looking but I dont think a TS, has done some porn too I believe if you really want to take a closer look!

[pumps]

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could be on the money there. ticks all the boxes.


and her vagina looks really strange.



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[Toddjones]

Looking through her pictures you can see op scar lines on the top of her thighs

[Bonker]

Looks like discected scrotum

[claretandblue]

could be on the money there. ticks all the boxes.


and her vagina looks really strange.



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she markets herself as having the biggest flaps in britain 

[Xtro]

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8 and a half year old veri pic - Masculine looking but apparently squirts in some of her porn films.


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[matoombaDan]

She's been around for a very long time and has been late 30s since I first encountered her website over a decade ago!  Always too far away from me to partake, I believe she's always been a woman but that the cosmetic surgery over the years has taken its toll.

Internet wayback machine has her original copy here back to 2007, I could have sworn she had another website before.

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[Bonker]

Looks like discected scrotum

Dissected... Oops

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She had a previous profile and someone mentioned her being a post-op . I can't find the post, but I recall her pictures.

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What do you guys think?

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She had a previous profile and someone mentioned her being a post-op . I can't find the post, but I recall her pictures.

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looks to be on the money.

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Dude? 

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Has several reviews here.


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Correction, has a review here

[MilleMiglia]

She's been around for a very long time and has been late 30s since I first encountered her website over a decade ago!  Always too far away from me to partake, I believe she's always been a woman but that the cosmetic surgery over the years has taken its toll.

Internet wayback machine has her original copy here back to 2007, I could have sworn she had another website before.

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Agree with this - she's been around some considerable time (although I've never got around to seeing her myself). If she's post op, then she's fooled a lot of guys over the years.

[jammyjay]

I highly doubt this is a woman but who knows

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What do you guys think? Female or Post Op?

[king tarzan]

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What do you guys think? Female or Post Op?

Difficult to say..
If in ounce of doubt JUST AVOID!!

simpletto!!!

[last_days_of_logan]

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What do you guys think? Female or Post Op?

its a strong jaw line thats for sure

but then again..there are 2 pics in her gallery that look very feminine

if she didnt pretend to be 23...he might ave gotten away with it

tough to say.... you like her/him?

[pumps]

I highly doubt this is a woman but who knows

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needs no confirmation

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What do you guys think? Female or Post Op?

post op.


I'm beginning to wonder how many prostitutes currently working in the UK were actually born female, these undisputable numbers are overwhelming.

[Avg_Joe]

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What do you guys think? Female or Post Op?

post op.

I'm beginning to wonder how many prostitutes currently working in the UK were actually born female, these undisputable numbers are overwhelming.

yeah, that looks dodgy as fuck,


the thighs look like they'd be capable of crushing your head if you were stupid enough to stick it between them....
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and this pic just looks all out of proportion, like a photoshop deluxe or dodgy surgery
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[GameofPunting]

Thanks guy. I had my suspicions.

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Got my eye on this one. Is this a safe bet?