Paying WG upfornt or at the end?

[hornypnter]

How many WGs do you know who are happy to receive the cash at the end of the session?
If you know of any please post links?

I used to see few escorts like Chloe (changed her name to Karen Dee in Walsall but sadly has retired) who didn't even ask for the cash at the end of our session until I gave it to her. There were couple of others but they all seem to have retired or disappeared.

I find these WGs provider an enjoyable unrushed service and seem to enjoy the session. After a long hiatus I returned to punting and have seen couple of WGs - Romanian & Polish who demanded to be paid up front and the service was rushed and although paid for 1hr was out by 45mins.

So do you think it would be better to pay half up front and the rest at the end of the session so that punters don't get ripped off? I am seriously thinking of doing this with my next punt.

[Cuntminion]

I either wire the money to them a week before the punt or pay by the minute

Example £120 an hour I take 60 £2 coins and if I'm not happy stop at any point


No on a serious note it makes duck all difference , more to the point most insist money up front on a first meet which is fine by me

[cueball]

In all the years I've played this game I've always paid at the start, regulars have sometimes said "don't worry about that, we'll sort that eventually" but I've never intentionally waited to the end to pay

[vw]

In all the years I've played this game I've always paid at the start, regulars have sometimes said "don't worry about that, we'll sort that eventually" but I've never intentionally waited to the end to pay

Me to get it out of the way at beginning, she can stash and fix me a drink while if have a quick rinse in the shower.  Works every time for incalls.  For outcalls at beginning again but never let it leave house to driver or other excuse many incidences of runners on here !

[hornypnter]

I have not issue paying up front but the recent punts where I have been rushed and left with still 15 mins or more.
It seemed wanted the money for 1hr but wanted me to stay for least amount of time.

I will be ok if they were up front and said van only do 30 or 45 mins and pay the amount for that time.

[cueball]

I have not issue paying up front but the recent punts where I have been rushed and left with still 15 mins or more.
It seemed wanted the money for 1hr but wanted me to stay for least amount of time.

I will be ok if they were up front and said van only do 30 or 45 mins and pay the amount for that time.

I know what you're saying, trouble is when they try to rush me it has the opposite effect

[yorkshire123]

I know a few but that has more to do with familiarity than a standard way of operating.
I will also be fucked if I'm going to post such names in an open forum because there are to many weird scamming fuckers out there who would love such a list.

[hornypnter]

I know what you're saying, trouble is when they try to rush me it has the opposite effect

Can you expand on what you mean the opposite effect on you??

[cueball]

Can you expand on what you mean the opposite effect on you??

Ain't that obvious?

Try to rush me to popping and I last longer than even I planned.

[wristjob]

Me to get it out of the way at beginning, she can stash and fix me a drink while if have a quick rinse in the shower. 

That and also there are no sneaky surprises. A couple of times when I paid at the end it cost an extra £10/20 more than I expected. It's not the extra cash as much as the sinking feeling knowing somebody cynically ripped you off.

Regarding the OP, I'm really not sure that paying at the end is any kind of good criteria for selecting girls.

[hornypnter]

"Ain't that obvious?

Try to rush me to popping and I last longer than even I planned."

I wish I had the same effect!

[Shenshiro]

So do you think it would be better to pay half up front and the rest at the end of the session so that punters don't get ripped off? I am seriously thinking of doing this with my next punt.

I'd have thought all that's going to do is risk getting her back up and starting the meet on a bad footing. Agree the time and services up front, pay her and get on with enjoying the meet. If she ends up short changing you let her know, and if she doesn't put it right mention it in any AW feedback or in a review here.

[BrunetteBarbieBrooke]

From my knowledge (I don't claim to be a legal expert at this though I do like to keep up to date) it is illegal to take the cash at the end as that crosses over the line of 'paying for services' so cash up front at the beginning is preferred.

It also saves any embarrassment or whatnot.

That's my view, hope it helps

[Seaguller]

Saw a lady off scotswood rd newcastle this afternoon and paid after the event...even wondered if she would ask!

[yorkshire123]

From my knowledge (I don't claim to be a legal expert at this though I do like to keep up to date) it is illegal to take the cash at the end as that crosses over the line of 'paying for services' so cash up front at the beginning is preferred.

It also saves any embarrassment or whatnot.

That's my view, hope it helps

I would be totally shocked if that was the case as paying for or selling sex isn't illegal in the UK irrespective of when you pay or what you pay with, by the way I have some magic beans if any prossie is willing to give up their arse in exchange.

[Dani]

From my knowledge (I don't claim to be a legal expert at this though I do like to keep up to date) it is illegal to take the cash at the end as that crosses over the line of 'paying for services' so cash up front at the beginning is preferred.

It also saves any embarrassment or whatnot.

That's my view, hope it helps

That is completely wrong.  It is not illegal to pay or charge for sexual services in the UK.   I do find it odd that someone who charges for sex does not know the law surrounding it.  it is illegal to solicit in a public place but completely legal to charge for sex in private and take payment either at the start or end.
Prossies prefer to take the money upfront as it stops the odd arsehole who suddenly finds he 'forgot' his money or 'left it in the car' etc.  Or even staying the full time then saying he didn't enjoy it so refuses to pay.

[Jeff_withpetersen]

However you do it, stay consistent. I always make a point of handing cash over at the start of the punt to show that I'm going to be a fair, reasonable and decent punter and try to get things off to a good start.

 The one time I forgot to do this (with a regular) I though ah I'll just remember later. When it came to leave, I went to just walk out and she outrightly had to say 'can I have some money?' with her hand out in a real buzz-kill kind of way haha.

[claretandblue]

It's nice when it's not asked for at the start of a punt but I do normally try and give them it or put it on the side early on,that said today I was fully dressed and about to head out the door when the wg reminded me I hadn't paid!

[LoneWolf2020]

pay at the start, let her count it and stash it. Makes for a better punt as they are relaxed then because they know they're not going to have any money issues with you. If you pay at the end she will be uneasy during the whole booking regards the money and to be honest you cant blame her.

i had a girl a few years back stay 4 or 5 hours overtime just having a laugh ect i just left the money on her side of the bed then during her goodbyes i said 'aint you forgot something'? she laughed and said 'oops yeah'. she forgot her money.

as well as the scammers there are some genuine women in this game that are more interested in giving you a great service to keep your custom than ripping you off.

[claretandblue]

pay at the start, let her count it and stash it. Makes for a better punt as they are relaxed then because they know they're not going to have any money issues with you. If you pay at the end she will be uneasy during the whole booking regards the money and to be honest you cant blame her.

i had a girl a few years back stay 4 or 5 hours overtime just having a laugh ect i just left the money on her side of the bed then during her goodbyes i said 'aint you forgot something'? she laughed and said 'oops yeah'. she forgot her money.

as well as the scammers there are some genuine women in this game that are more interested in giving you a great service to keep your custom than ripping you off.

Some big generalisations there,the wg I saw I have seen numerous times over a couple of years,she definitely wasn't uneasy during the punt as she knows me,do agree however that it's advisable when seeing a wg for the first time

[LoneWolf2020]

yep if you're new to her pay first. i pay first anyway though

[johnbanebridge]

I always think it is best to pay upfront. Place the money in a blank envelope and leave on the table or something.

[threechilliman]

I know a few but that has more to do with familiarity than a standard way of operating.
I will also be fucked if I'm going to post such names in an open forum because there are to many weird scamming fuckers out there who would love such a list.

Yep, on the money those comments. Once a girl trusts you, they'll take the money at the end. But you earn the trust by repeat visits.

tcm

[Mr Br1ghts1de]

Yep, on the money those comments. Once a girl trusts you, they'll take the money at the end. But you earn the trust by repeat visits.

tcm

I always pay up front, but there is 1 girl I have seen 3 times where I have always paid at the end.

Just a case of circumstances dictating with a high degree of mutual trust.

[English Annabelle]

as a service provider, I dont like to ask upfront but after forgetting my money on 2 occasions I do try to ask politely for the money upfront if I havent met the client before, its nothing to do with rushing the client, its to do with making sure you dont forget at the end, unless of course your not bothered by bad feedback and dont want repeat clients, a perfect client will have the money ready and ask to get it out of the way first, it just creates a good sense of getting down to business without having to try and remember you havent been paid

[Spankybumtime]

I've had a few occasions where i paid at the end, All english girls and some of the best punts i have had.

[Neal69]

Upfront every time.

Gets the formalities out of the way then you can relax into the punt.

The only exception is with a semi regular with who I have discussed  certain kink for her dropping to her knees and blowing me as soon as I get in her flat.

Payment then is afterwards.

But then I am.one of those fluffy buggers that use an envelope for the cash.

N

[Swansea lad]

I never had a problem with paying upfront until I recently paid a Romanian for 1 hour and got 35 mins.  I dont mind 5 mins short but this episode took the pi**.If they don't give you the time they should refund the difference, wg's get away with to much false advertising.

[vw]

I never had a problem with paying upfront until I recently paid a Romanian for 1 hour and got 35 mins.  I dont mind 5 mins short but this episode took the pi**.If they don't give you the time they should refund the difference, wg's get away with to much false advertising.

You should maybe review these to identify the bad Romanians and stop others getting mugged off !

[ProtocolDroid]

I never had a problem with paying upfront until I recently paid a Romanian for 1 hour and got 35 mins.  I dont mind 5 mins short but this episode took the pi**.If they don't give you the time they should refund the difference, wg's get away with to much false advertising.

I agree with this, which is why I am now more in favour of 30 min bookings.

The payment up front "rule" is not universal by the way: in Hong Kong, for example, you pay at the end. It may of course be that there are fewer guys there who pretend they forgot their wallet or whatever (see Dani's post), but I think it's much more civilised. From a WG's perspective it has the advantage that tips are more common if the service is good (judging from reviews on HK forums).

Another thing to note is that I've found that in the UK massage/HE SPs are a bit more relaxed about payment; perhaps because they attract a slightly different clientele. (Just speculating here.)

[vw]

I agree with this, which is why I am now more in favour of 30 min bookings.

The payment up front "rule" is not universal by the way: in Hong Kong, for example, you pay at the end. It may of course be that there are fewer guys there who pretend they forgot their wallet or whatever (see Dani's post), but I think it's much more civilised. From a WG's perspective it has the advantage that tips are more common if the service is good (judging from reviews on HK forums).

Another thing to note is that I've found that in the UK massage/HE SPs are a bit more relaxed about payment; perhaps because they attract a slightly different clientele. (Just speculating here.)

Would that be something to do with fear of the Triads ?

[ProtocolDroid]

Would that be something to do with fear of the Triads ?

To some extent perhaps, but I doubt they're all pimped by triad members. In parlours ("saunas") I've been to it's the same thing. Obviously there is security there, but I imagine that parlour owners here are not to be messed with either. 

[hornypnter]

I never had a problem with paying upfront until I recently paid a Romanian for 1 hour and got 35 mins.  I dont mind 5 mins short but this episode took the pi**.If they don't give you the time they should refund the difference, wg's get away with to much false advertising.

The times I have been rushed and kicked out by 35 or 45 mins into 1hr booking has been Romanian & Polish WGs. Even booking 30 mins they try and get you out within 15 mins. I too don't mind 5 or even 10 mins but anything more is taking the pi** especially if not refunded for finishing the session much earlier than agreed.

I agree quite a few WGs get away from false advertising. Recently contacted 3 WGs after viewing their profile only to do be told they don't some of the enjoys in their profile. When asked why then mention it on their profile they say it was my "friend" who filled the profile. Very annoying.

The worst is they yes on the phone and when you turn up in person say they don't do it.

[vw]

When asked why then mention it on their profile they say it was my "friend" who filled the profile. Very annoying.

I had that with Jess one of my negative reviews she blamed it on the agency then went independent and guess what even though she controls the account now she still lies !

Its to get bodies through the door counting on punters being mugs and putting up with it, especially if they have a pretty face and hot body they thing that negates the lies.

[hornypnter]

From my knowledge (I don't claim to be a legal expert at this though I do like to keep up to date) it is illegal to take the cash at the end as that crosses over the line of 'paying for services' so cash up front at the beginning is preferred.

It also saves any embarrassment or whatnot.

That's my view, hope it helps

Would be interested to know where you got this this knowledge, it does not sound right!!!

[threechilliman]

I usually offer the money up front. A couple of regs I've always paid at the end form meet 1 and another I always pay at the start and she always says 'it's fine at the end'.

tcm

[Ben4454]

 
Of course in this game ALL risk (seems to be by default) has to be taken by the punter.

- Money upfront
- Waiting on her to leave to her mysterious bat cave to stash the cash (Hoping she won't do a runner)
- Taking her word on it that she will deliver what she promised.

I understand you get punters who mess people about but in this day working girls also mess people about.

I assume this is why the most experienced punter/prossie is often times on the jaded side.

[rh123]

I always usually just pay up front so its out the way.

[claretandblue]

You should maybe review these to identify the bad Romanians and stop others getting mugged off !

+1 no excuse for not sharing a negative experience in my opinion

[vw]

+1 no excuse for not sharing a negative experience in my opinion

More important than any in my opinion had 3 to write this week and the negative was written at first opportunity !

[Venezuelan]

I always thought you have to pay at the start no pay no play 

[Roth]

I will also be fucked if I'm going to post such names in an open forum because there are to many weird scamming fuckers out there who would love such a list.

+1.  Totally right .    Strange that the OP wants names posted.   

[LL]

In all the years I've played this game I've always paid at the start, regulars have sometimes said "don't worry about that, we'll sort that eventually" but I've never intentionally waited to the end to pay

English Rebecca said this when I met her.  Quite refreshing to see this kind of trust from a girl I'd only just met.  I left the money on the side anyway, before the punt started as I felt more comfortable doing that.  She didn't bother to check it there and then, just whisked it up off the kitchen worktop at the end, as I was leaving.

[Closet freak]

This has happened with two WG I've seen  the second one was a half hour booking the session lasted an hour then spent 45 mins drinking & smoking with her ,charged me for the half hour on my way out
Needless to say I've been back and received the same service more than once 

[Jimmyredcab]

I always thought you have to pay at the start no pay no play 

Not always but any pro$$ie who accepts payment AFTER the event is taking a big risk, unless the punter is a regular.

If someone wants me to take them on an £80 cab ride, especially late a night I need to be paid first, if they are not happy with that they can wave down another cab.     

[TheNewSeeker]

Of course in this game ALL risk (seems to be by default) has to be taken by the punter.

Just not true in my book. If you learn to understand that risk is something which both parties in this game entertain, then you will, IMO, become a better punter. As JRC says,

Not always but any pro$$ie who accepts payment AFTER the event is taking a big risk, unless the punter is a regular.

I've been done in a pre-pay scam. This was in Brighton, a call box advert, 20+ years ago. I was completely naive and in that situation again I'd spot it a mile off. But in many a post punt chat with SPs I have heard about the shits who try to avoid paying for their services. Settling up front is a sure way of making everything just a little more relaxed.

 

[raylondoner]

Usually pay up front for main course but at the end for any side dishes added during the event. 

[TheNewSeeker]

Usually pay up front for main course but at the end for any side dishes added during the event. 

When do you pay for the hors d'oeuvres?   

 

[claretandblue]

Not always but any pro$$ie who accepts payment AFTER the event is taking a big risk, unless the punter is a regular.

If someone wants me to take them on an £80 cab ride, especially late a night I need to be paid first, if they are not happy with that they can wave down another cab.     

Does anyone still take  £80 cab rides? Don't know why anyone would in this day and age?

[anyfucker]

Does anyone still take  £80 cab rides? Don't know why anyone would in this day and age?

that's probably about half a mile with a few extras thrown in for good measure