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Offline pianodave

Hi All :)

I have a non hypothetical dilemma for you, was wondering what others would do in this situation:

You book an agency girl for 1 hour and she arrives on time - really pretty, nice girl. Says you are her third client ever.

Money handed over, some brief FK and OWO takes place and you start the rumpy pumpy. After a minute or so of this - no more than 10 minutes after arrival - so girl suddenly bursts into tears and sits on the side of the bed for a few minutes. Eventually she says, ok let's carry on. She is still crying so you ask what the matter is, and she says she doesn't know so you suggest scrapping the booking and she agrees, gets dressed and gives the money back. While waiting for her lift she explains she only just turned 18, you are her third client and she isn't sure if she is ready for escorting, but she is desperate for the money.

Then she says, despite bursting into tears and effectively ending the booking at 10 minutes - even though she said we could carry on with her crying (not really my thing) - since we did some stuff in the 10 minutes, can she have some of the £170 fee back.

Now, on one hand, we had done stuff, and I felt a bit sad for her - clearly in over her head and not cut out for what she is doing. Technically she would have continued, but in floods of tears and clearly not wanting to. I couldn't have continued in these circumstances.
On the other hand, she basically called time at 10 minutes in, and left me with the bluest balls I have ever had!

Woudl you have given her any of the fee, and if so how much??

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If this is for real - I'll post a real reply but, I'm not the most sympathetic person.

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Yes it is for real, happened to me earlier. Curious to know what others would have done as to be honest I was not sure what the correct response was.

Offline mattylondon

Hi All :)

I have a non hypothetical dilemma for you, was wondering what others would do in this situation:

You book an agency girl for 1 hour and she arrives on time - really pretty, nice girl. Says you are her third client ever.

Money handed over, some brief FK and OWO takes place and you start the rumpy pumpy. After a minute or so of this - no more than 10 minutes after arrival - so girl suddenly bursts into tears and sits on the side of the bed for a few minutes. Eventually she says, ok let's carry on. She is still crying so you ask what the matter is, and she says she doesn't know so you suggest scrapping the booking and she agrees, gets dressed and gives the money back. While waiting for her lift she explains she only just turned 18, you are her third client and she isn't sure if she is ready for escorting, but she is desperate for the money.

Then she says, despite bursting into tears and effectively ending the booking at 10 minutes - even though she said we could carry on with her crying (not really my thing) - since we did some stuff in the 10 minutes, can she have some of the £170 fee back.

Now, on one hand, we had done stuff, and I felt a bit sad for her - clearly in over her head and not cut out for what she is doing. Technically she would have continued, but in floods of tears and clearly not wanting to. I couldn't have continued in these circumstances.
On the other hand, she basically called time at 10 minutes in, and left me with the bluest balls I have ever had!

Woudl you have given her any of the fee, and if so how much??
And this is real? I have my doubts. Bit heavy for a first post, wouldn't you say? :rolleyes:
« Last Edit: March 29, 2012, 08:14:07 pm by mattylondon »

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Why is it a dilemma?

Either you gave her some of the fee back or you did'nt, which is the case?


Offline pianodave

Yes it's real, like I said. It happened today. It was a dilemma at the time, I wasnt sure whether to give her some cash or not.

I did give her some of the fee back, but I was just curious what others woudl have done, given the unusual situation.

The agency later admitted she did the same the night before, burst into tears and couldn't continue. Now she has gone off their site, so presumably been fired.

I just posted because I thought it was an interesting unusual situation and wondered what others thought.

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Keep the money/ask for a refund and show her the door.  My belief is no punter should feel bad after a punt when it is the girl's fault. Personally I do not see girls under 20 or pay £170 an hour (rip off). In 10 minutes what are you going to do - if you cum in her mouth after OWO fair enough, pay her for that - if she gives you a crap massage and few feel ups it's not worth anything - you can get the latter for free in any nightclub. How do you know she's not a scammer making up bullshit excuses to do as little work as possible? She chose it, she knew the drill - if it was her third day in another job and she cried her eyes out, she'd be out on her arse. The only tears I'm interested in seeing on a punt are from my jap's eye.

*Don't care if it's real or real fake - I'll give my 2 cents.
*OP needs to name names - agency and girl.

Offline pianodave

And this is real? I have my doubts. Bit heavy for a first post, wouldn't you say? :rolleyes:

I'm a lurker, I posted in the past on %%% but got fed up with it. This incident prompted me to sign up.

I know you are suspicious, but I am for real and this really happenend and I wondered what other punters would have done that is all.

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Offline pianodave

Thanks Ali, I gave her £15 as it happens for a cab but she got a lift in the end I think.

Weird experience.

I'm not keen to name the agency, I used the a few times and they are always very good, and have already removed the girl from their site, just a few hours later.

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Not off to a good start - no-one will believe it unless he name names:

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Offline pianodave

I dont see why I have to prove it happened. If you have a view, feel free to respond. If not, that's fine, I'll post it on prossienet and see what they think instead  :dash:

Offline mattylondon

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I'm not keen to name the agency, I used the a few times and they are always very good, and have already removed the girl from their site, just a few hours later.
Really? Solely as a consequence of your "bad" experience?  :rolleyes: Come on. Name the agency and girl then please, so we can check your story.  :hi:

And you already stated you were 'fed up' with prossienet earlier, so why would you go back there to post? It doesn't stack up, I'm afraid.
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I'm a lurker, I posted in the past on %%% but got fed up with it. This incident prompted me to sign up.

And what is your nic on there then please? If you don't want to post it on the board, send a PM to one of the mods so they can check.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2012, 08:47:41 pm by mattylondon »

Offline pianodave

I can PM Nik some supporting evidence if it is really so important. I got a full refund though and the girl has gone off the site so not sure name and shame is necessary in this case.

In the meantime, would anyone have given the girl anything back?

Offline mattylondon

I can PM Nik some supporting evidence if it is really so important. I got a full refund though and the girl has gone off the site so not sure name and shame is necessary in this case.

In the meantime, would anyone have given the girl anything back?
Sure, PM any of the mods personal evidence, but you can quite easily post the agency up here right now at no consequence to yourself Silvero. I'm not having a go at you on purpose, but you've just joined and that's quite a story! If you can prove it, that's great, but please understand why other punters may be sceptical. It's common policy to 'name and shame', as that serves the interests of punters, who may not wish to book an agency that would employ somebody who was vulnerable like that.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2012, 08:53:36 pm by mattylondon »

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On one hand I'm a big softy, so her bursting out crying would make me feel bad.  I'd be a bit taken aback with her asking for some cash back, but like the OP I would probably give her some to get home.  :blush:

However on the other hand I'm a tight Scotsman, so she'd have more chance getting blood out of a stone.  :scare:

But on the third and final hand, I am such a hunk there is no way she'd be cying about spending time with me  :dancegirl:

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Happened to me - scammer!

I had money back to then have the hotel door being banged by two 'large' bouncer type guys demanding it back

If she is in wrong game get out - dont see why the innocent party in this case the punter should be out of pocket!

If she is genuine she should agree to say its not her and leave without payment, the fact she played the game to me proves its a scam and someone that does it many times - almost like the wank and go girls

I am harder now and either have told her to leave or turn her over with head in pillow to muffle sound and doggy her long and hard! Live n learn

Offline pianodave

It could have been an attempt at a scam, but I doubt it.

I think she was just very young and thought it was easy money and was shocked by the emotional element of casual sex with older strangers.

Anyway thanks, good to know I wasn't in the wrong by not giving her what she asked for. I don't mind that I gave her 15 quid though, she had an amazing pert body and I did enjoy the 10 minutes, and it gave me something nice to think about when I took care of things for myself just after she left  :D

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It could have been an attempt at a scam, but I doubt it.
So where's your link to the agency site and have you PM'd any of the mods yet?  :hi:

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I think giving 15 mins fee back, say £25/£30 would have been fine, IF sexual services/nudity were performed at all.

If no intimate services were given, then I'd say it was a scam, but can't see why someone would actually do OWO and sex for ten mins then start crying and asking for a bit of the fee just as a scam - they had provided a part of the service already, why not continue and get the full fee? Scams like that are usually where the woman does not actually intend on providing any service in the first place, just getting the money and running.

   

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If no intimate services were given, then I'd say it was a scam, but can't see why someone would actually do OWO and sex for ten mins then start crying and asking for a bit of the fee just as a scam - they had provided a part of the service already, why not continue and get the full fee? Scams like that are usually where the woman does not actually intend on providing any service in the first place, just getting the money and running.

   

I thought that too.


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If no intimate services were given, then I'd say it was a scam, but can't see why someone would actually do OWO and sex for ten mins then start crying and asking for a bit of the fee just as a scam - they had provided a part of the service already, why not continue and get the full fee? Scams like that are usually where the woman does not actually intend on providing any service in the first place, just getting the money and running.
I'm cynical but the fact Silvero questioned it could mean some men have given her full fee as compensation. As a side note unless this girl showed Silvero her driving license she could be 25 not 18 - it's sounds like such a bullshit excuse from the girl. Also, if it happened twice before the first time she should have left the agency - I would class a girl like that as a timewaster.

Offline pianodave

I think giving 15 mins fee back, say £25/£30 would have been fine, IF sexual services/nudity were performed at all.

If no intimate services were given, then I'd say it was a scam, but can't see why someone would actually do OWO and sex for ten mins then start crying and asking for a bit of the fee just as a scam - they had provided a part of the service already, why not continue and get the full fee? Scams like that are usually where the woman does not actually intend on providing any service in the first place, just getting the money and running.

   

yes I dont think it was a scam, unless she thought I'd say, keep the cash. I think she really was young and naive, just turned 18 and though of the cash only, but ended up in above her head and suddenly looked down and thought, what the hell am I doing bouncing on this old man's cock.

When she asked for something back, she said "You have had my body" in a sad way, like she felt violated and didnt want to be violated totally for free. I was an unhappy situation, shame she couldn't handle it, she was stunning, super cute. Too cute for a WG really, if you know what I mean. Which may go some way to explaining things.

Anyway thanks to those who posted, good to know I reacted in an okay way to a strange scenario.

I will PM Nik the agency name and some corroborating details if he wishes, as long as they are not posted.

cheers

Offline fisherofsouls

Yet another reason I would only ever book an outcall far from home to a hotel room hired in a fake name on a pre-paid card...!!!

Next thing you know, her "brother" will be knocking on the door looking for satisfaction (or at least, a suitable monetary recompense)...

Offline Jimmyredcab

I dont see why I have to prove it happened. If you have a view, feel free to respond. If not, that's fine, I'll post it on prossienet and see what they think instead  :dash:

If you post this on %%% they will tell you that you should have paid far more than £15, the ladies on there will rip you to pieces for seeing someone so young.

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You book an agency girl for 1 hour and she arrives on time - really pretty, nice girl. Says you are her third client ever.
Money handed over, some brief FK and OWO takes place and you start the rumpy pumpy. After a minute or so of this - no more than 10 minutes after arrival - so girl suddenly bursts into tears and sits on the side of the bed for a few minutes. Eventually she says, ok let's carry on. She is still crying so you ask what the matter is,

The reality is probably you were her Third client for the night, and as she works for an agency she has shagged the Driver, the owner, his mate and the photographer, as such after 7 shags (and only been paid for 3 and the agency took half of that) she probably found your shagging her painful and thus caused the tears.

So her Dilema is she wants the money but not the pain, she hoped you would let her keep the money and you to leave, she's probably done it loads of times before and will continue to do so if she makes a profit from it.

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the ladies on there will rip you to pieces for seeing someone so young.

Nothing to do with them caring about the girl, they opbject because you are choosing someone young (and probably attractive) and that is a threat to theior livelyhood, as most of them are well past their sell by date and weight  :hi:

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To be honest if the same thing happened to me it would put off punting for a while maybe, not for life though. You can do better for £170 in London - you could do better for £100. Silvero didn't "use her body" as she said, she gave herself to him.

Offline Matium

I dont see why I have to prove it happened. If you have a view, feel free to respond. If not, that's fine, I'll post it on prossienet and see what they think instead  :dash:

You'll be pilloried if you do.

The Sisterhood are very unforgiving and their acolytes do their bidding.

Offline kundalini

In my experience, the thing that surprises me in the situation described, is that the escort gave the money back. I have yet to meet a WG with sufficient integrity that she returned part of the fee despite several clear cut instances of WGs failing to deliver her side of the bargain. No doubt there are some WGs with integrity but I'd say they are few and very far between.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2012, 01:56:00 pm by kundalini »

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In my experience, the thing that surprises me in the situation described, is that the escort gave the money back.

Interesting point, as if the story is true (and not another sisterhood troll) then surely she would have passed the fee to the driver so be unable to refund it  :scare:

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Sorry, I failed to answer the OP's question. I think offering a fee in the £10 - £30 range seems reasonable given the length of time involved. Any more than that would be extremely generous. There is also a decent case for not offering any payment.

In a parallel universe, in which agencies cared about their clients, I would have expected the agency to contact the client to apologise for events and offer a price reduction for their next booking.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2012, 02:15:35 pm by kundalini »

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What are you trying to achieve here?

If she stayed for 10 minutes and performed some sort of sexual service then you would give her 1/6th of the fee for a taxi.

If it was a scam this would certainly put a stop to future victims.

On another note it is pointless posting this on PN as the fluffies would tell you to give her the full fee, a further 50% as compensation for the stress you caused her and then call her a limo to take her home  :scare:

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wonder if nik has been messaged yet?

Offline pianodave

Good grief what an agressive, unfriendly, bitter and suspicious bunch you are. If this is what years of having to pay for it does to you maybe I should quit now  :D

The story is entirely true, but I couldn't really care less whether you believe it or not. After the riduculous childish response to my story, I shall not be posting on the forum again.

But just to respond to the last points for the point of compelteness:

Getting the fee back: she didn't have much choice as I made it clear I wanted it back, and wouldn't have let her out otherwise. Also she begged me not to grass her up to the agency for crying as she'd get fired, and I lied and said Ok as long as you return my cash now. I grassed her up anyway thoughso they didn't think I was a timewaster.

I'll leave you all to your very unwelcoming forum now. Farewell.

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I'll leave you all to your very unwelcoming forum now. Farewell.

You didn't get like %%%, you don't like it here, you reduced a poor girl to tears, have you ever thought the problem could be you   :hi:

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Good grief what an agressive, unfriendly, bitter and suspicious bunch you are. If this is what years of having to pay for it does to you maybe I should quit now  :D

The story is entirely true, but I couldn't really care less whether you believe it or not. After the riduculous childish response to my story, I shall not be posting on the forum again.

But just to respond to the last points for the point of compelteness:

Getting the fee back: she didn't have much choice as I made it clear I wanted it back, and wouldn't have let her out otherwise. Also she begged me not to grass her up to the agency for crying as she'd get fired, and I lied and said Ok as long as you return my cash now. I grassed her up anyway thoughso they didn't think I was a timewaster.

I'll leave you all to your very unwelcoming forum now. Farewell.

As our boy Matty would say...

"It's been emotional"  :sarcastic:

Offline mattylondon

Good grief what an agressive, unfriendly, bitter and suspicious bunch you are. If this is what years of having to pay for it does to you maybe I should quit now :D
A distinctly female tone to that particular sentence. Could you be a prossie per chance?  :rolleyes: Yes, quit whilst you still have some dignity left.

I'll leave you all to your very unwelcoming forum now. Farewell.
Anyway, haven't you cleared off yet then?!  :D I've just logged in and read your "farewell" message!! Funny how so many trolls before you start issuing threats to leave (like anybody gives a monkeys), then they never do until they're literally dragged kicking and screaming out of the door! I suspect you'll be lurking around for some time yet! If you're really leaving, as you promised, don't forget to turn off the lights on your way out!  :hi:
« Last Edit: March 30, 2012, 05:17:47 pm by mattylondon »

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Good grief what an agressive, unfriendly, bitter and suspicious bunch you are. If this is what years of having to pay for it does to you maybe I should quit

Punters dont talk to each other like this. 'Having to pay for it' is a term commonly used by smarmy pro$$ies. You`re a troll and tbh a very shit one.

If there was any truth to your story you would have given the agency name and girl but you didnt because you made them up in a `non hypothetical` situation to find out if punters from this site would screw a crying prossie who was under 18.

 
She had an amazing pert body and I did enjoy the 10 minutes, and it gave me something nice to think about when I took care of things for myself just after she left  :D


So despite just seeing off a crying prossie under 18 who was clearly distraught you had a wank straight after thinking about her 'pert' body?

I don't think we want your kind here. Kindly gtfo.

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Punters dont talk to each other like this. 'Having to pay for it' is a term commonly used by smarmy pro$$ies. You`re a troll and tbh a very shit one.
That was the dead giveaway and sealed their fate, as far as I'm concerned. An obvious troll and yes, a very shit one at that.  :hi:

Offline adindas

Thanks Ali, I gave her £15 as it happens for a cab but she got a lift in the end I think.

Weird experience.

I'm not keen to name the agency, I used the a few times and they are always very good, and have already removed the girl from their site, just a few hours later.

It will depend on what had happened and whether I believe she is not a scammer
If there was not anything serious happening, just talk, cares, etc. I would not give her more than the cost she need for the cab.

If for instance we have done quite a lot, say for instance I have come, etc I will give part of the fee.

Nowadays I will not pay £170 for an hour service anyway ....

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I'll leave you all to your very unwelcoming forum now. Farewell.

Goodbye, and don't come back, I am convinced you are a sisterhood troll, no idea which one as there are so many.
You gave yourself away when you said "having to pay for it" ------ that is typical pro$$ie talk.  :thumbsdown:

Offline Jimmyredcab

Interesting point, as if the story is true (and not another sisterhood troll) then surely she would have passed the fee to the driver so be unable to refund it  :scare:

Just for the record.
I would never allow a girl to leave the room with the fee to give to the driver, what guarantee would I have that she will return. ?????

Offline jackdaw

The original posting may have been a fable.

But I guess it may well be the case that a goodly proportion of young WG's starting work soon find out its not for them, or in some other way prove totally unsuitable for the job.

Certainly I operate on the basis of that guess, and am very reluctant to see any WG younger than mid-twenties. (Mind you... always likely to fall for the "beauty trap".)

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Good grief what an agressive, unfriendly, bitter and suspicious bunch you are.

Getting the fee back: she didn't have much choice as I made it clear I wanted it back, and wouldn't have let her out otherwise. Also she begged me not to grass her up to the agency for crying as she'd get fired, and I lied and said Ok as long as you return my cash now. I grassed her up anyway thoughso they didn't think I was a timewaster.


You sound like a dick


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as per the rest of the fellas thoughts, the "having to pay for it" comment is clearly a chick comment

but the double standards are always amazing, having to pay for its an issue but having to sell it is just fine

sheesh

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as per the rest of the fellas thoughts, the "having to pay for it" comment is clearly a chick comment

but the double standards are always amazing, having to pay for its an issue but having to sell it is just fine

sheesh

Brilliant post, welcome to the forum.   ;)