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Jackofhearts

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Short time lurker, brand new member!

Real newbie question here, so please be patient...

Got a punting phone (£15 in Tesco, unregistered SIM, cash only top up)

Got a punting email with no true details on it except punting phone number

I'm nearly good to go!   :P

Want to book a WG from AW who only accepts bookings from AW members.

So I want to go ahead and register so I can email her. I'm NEVER going to put any real details on there, and NEVER, NEVER going to put my credit card on there.

Before I go ahead and sign up are there any other reasons NOT to register? From reading posts on here I can see there are problems with AW, but I'm guessing the majority of us do use it?

There was definitely a recent thread about this very topic, and a couple of members were posting something like "plenty of choices of WGs who don't make you join AW, therefore you don't need it" I've searched but now I can't find it :dash:

So apart from the principle involved, and I'm not disagreeing with that, are there any other ways that getting an AW account can backfire?

Thanks for reading

Jackofhearts

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Oops, just realised there's a punting Wiki!

What a noob...

But any input still very gratefully received

 :rolleyes:

Offline smiths

Short time lurker, brand new member!

Real newbie question here, so please be patient...

Got a punting phone (£15 in Tesco, unregistered SIM, cash only top up)

Got a punting email with no true details on it except punting phone number

I'm nearly good to go!   :P

Want to book a WG from AW who only accepts bookings from AW members.

So I want to go ahead and register so I can email her. I'm NEVER going to put any real details on there, and NEVER, NEVER going to put my credit card on there.

Before I go ahead and sign up are there any other reasons NOT to register? From reading posts on here I can see there are problems with AW, but I'm guessing the majority of us do use it?

There was definitely a recent thread about this very topic, and a couple of members were posting something like "plenty of choices of WGs who don't make you join AW, therefore you don't need it" I've searched but now I can't find it :dash:

So apart from the principle involved, and I'm not disagreeing with that, are there any other ways that getting an AW account can backfire?

Thanks for reading

I am only interested in WGs with displayed numbers so don't need to book through A/W. One possible disadvantage with having an A/W account is some punters wont give a bad WG negative feedback in case she does the same back in revenge which could put future WGs off. Now this no doubt has bad WGs and their pimps pissing themselves with laughter at such punters. If you do sign up to A/W my advice is use a different nick to the one on here and leave your honest feedback on here, and remember in reviews on here you don't have to give exact dates and times you saw the WG.

When I do business with someone and am paying them its not ME that needs feedback as I am the one paying, they just want my money of course, so the A/W FB system works against the interests of punters in my view, and it is obviously the case many punters don't agree with me and that's up to them.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2015, 08:58:20 pm by smiths »

slow and low

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I am only interested in WGs with displayed numbers so don't need to book through A/W. One possible disadvantage with having an A/W account is some punters wont give a bad WG negative feedback in case she does the same back in revenge which could put future WGs off. Now this no doubt has bad WGs and their pimps pissing themselves with laughter at such punters.

When I do business with someone and am paying them its not ME that needs feedback as I am the one paying, they just want my money of course, so the A/W FB system works against the interests of punters in my view, and it is obviously the case many punters don't agree with me and that's up to them.
the feedback system on aw is weighted against the punter as smiths is correct in saying as most don't leave negative feedback in case their profile then gets a negative thereby reducing chances of a booking being accepted.  I would rather rely on a call or text to arrange also good to speak to someone as you often pick up a hint of what they may be like in person.

Jackofhearts

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Thanks Smiths, that makes sense, especially the advice to have a different user name to keep UKP and AW separate.

Your post jogged my memory, I think one of the things that caused objections was WGs requiring a certain number of positive AW reviews before accepting a booking, and I can see how that would get people's backs up...

  :thumbsup:

Offline MancSean

As long as you are careful and don't leave yourself in a position that people you don't want to see it see it. Not really. All your details are fake do shouldn't be an issue. Just make sure your aw and ukp names can't be tied back to each other by following well documented threads on here. Also use a private browser if you are using home PC.  And even if you use a punting phone best not save login details. Just be wise at all times.

Also it is true apart from a select few girls normally high in demand or paranoid you don't need an aw account or feedback which is the issue with girls that want you to have an aw account as they normally require you to have feedback.  This hopefully weeds out the weirdos for them.
Different people will have different views but I have found good aw feedback does help get girls to reply to emails for instance on aw. But I could live without it now if I needed to. Also so girls don't have phone numbers and only aw email. Or if they do have a phone never answer it or never respond to texts. Gotta say would have missed out on quite a few of my best punts without my aw account.
You could always create the account see the girl and then delete the account.  That way you have best of both worlds. 

Offline johnbanebridge

If you are careful and sensible when using the site I can't think of any drawback. Just don't let your spouse catch you on it if you have one  ;)

Offline smiths

Thanks Smiths, that makes sense, especially the advice to have a different user name to keep UKP and AW separate.

Your post jogged my memory, I think one of the things that caused objections was WGs requiring a certain number of positive AW reviews before accepting a booking, and I can see how that would get people's backs up...

  :thumbsup:

The way I see it is when I punt I am the one paying so the way the WG operates must suit ME not HER or she wont get my business, my money, my rules.

Jackofhearts

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Thanks Slow and low, totally take your point regarding the AW feedback system.

Also, for me, I think I'm always going to want to call or text before I book, but if a WG doesn't display her number, how do I start comms without registering as an AW member and going through the email system?

Offline smiths

Thanks Slow and low, totally take your point regarding the AW feedback system.

Also, for me, I think I'm always going to want to call or text before I book, but if a WG doesn't display her number, how do I start comms without registering as an AW member and going through the email system?

Unless you get her number off another punter or she also has her own site you cant which is why some punters DO have an A/W account of course.

Jackofhearts

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If you are careful and sensible when using the site I can't think of any drawback. Just don't let your spouse catch you on it if you have one  ;)

Thanks JBB, I am currently, as they say, 'between spouses...'


 ;)

Offline johnbanebridge

No worries, not the most helpful advise I gave you but welcome to the forum and most importantly have fun  :D

slow and low

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Thanks Slow and low, totally take your point regarding the AW feedback system.

Also, for me, I think I'm always going to want to call or text before I book, but if a WG doesn't display her number, how do I start comms without registering as an AW member and going through the email system?
that's right I tried to arrange a booking with a very tidy sort on aw but she was insistent on using the booking service. I gave up in the end. A call or text should be more than sufficient to arrange a mutually suitable time, date and venue.

Jackofhearts

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You could always create the account see the girl and then delete the account.  That way you have best of both worlds.

Now why didn't I think of that?

 :)

Thanks MancSean, top advice.

Right I'm going to send some emails and make some phone calls. I'll let you know how I get on

Cheers all

Offline MancSean

I am only interested in WGs with displayed numbers so don't need to book through A/W. One possible disadvantage with having an A/W account is some punters wont give a bad WG negative feedback in case she does the same back in revenge which could put future WGs off. Now this no doubt has bad WGs and their pimps pissing themselves with laughter at such punters. If you do sign up to A/W my advice is use a different nick to the one on here and leave your honest feedback on here, and remember in reviews on here you don't have to give exact dates and times you saw the WG.

When I do business with someone and am paying them its not ME that needs feedback as I am the one paying, they just want my money of course, so the A/W FB system works against the interests of punters in my view, and it is obviously the case many punters don't agree with me and that's up to them.
I find it really bizarre how ridiculous the aw feedback works and wondered why for ages it is so fake and people especially nowadays never leave negative feedback. And you are 100% right about the fear of receiving negative feedback in return.
However it has to run deeper than that.  For instance on ebay when I had been ripped off or what I thought was a bad service I left negative feedback no problems and so do others.
For a while I thought the punter has to leave feedback first on aw but the other week I had a punt and for the first time the wg left feedback first and this was first time that happened so not sure if new feature or that most girls wait to see their feedback first. So it can't be that although even if you go second they can dispute.  Not sure if a punter can dispute though.
It could be just the fact it's sex we pay and leave feedback for and this makes the brain work differently. Or the wg could spread rumours and getting you a bad rep.
But with sex comes ego too so knowing if you post a negative review you are likely to get a negative one back which reduces your overall feedback score.  I know some dudes that are as thirsty for high feedback numbers as much and even more than a large number of wgs.
Strange thing is its very easy create an account get a few positive reviews from say 3 regs or good punts then if you do get a negative delete it and start again with the regs to get minimum required feedback number. I guess this is more for regular punters rather than occasional punters though.

Offline shagbambi

I like the AW system as I am not a spontaneous punter.  It gives me the opportunity to organise everything beforehand.  I do not have the luxury of being able to organise punts and call around for girls during working hours.  When I do have a limited opportunity, ie. when I do not have work colleagues or family around, I  tend to be punting as everything has been organised beforehand.

Spankybumtime

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Its hard to leave negative feedback as the WG won't confirm the booking if she thinks the punter is not happy.

When i 1st started it was'nt a problem booking through AW and WG confirmed booking, Punt was happy and feedback was left but then i booked with a WG who confirmed by text and after the punt which turned into a scam i was unable to leave negative feedback as she had not confirmed on AW.

My last 5 punts, All found on AW, I would email the girls including my number and they would either confirm by email or text, None were booked through the AW booking system although 3 of the 5 ended up being booked in retrospect so good feedback could be left for each other.

A lot of the girls i see say they don't want too much feedback which goes totally opposite what i look for.. Plenty of feedback to prove your reliable.

Offline smiths

I find it really bizarre how ridiculous the aw feedback works and wondered why for ages it is so fake and people especially nowadays never leave negative feedback. And you are 100% right about the fear of receiving negative feedback in return.
However it has to run deeper than that.  For instance on ebay when I had been ripped off or what I thought was a bad service I left negative feedback no problems and so do others.
For a while I thought the punter has to leave feedback first on aw but the other week I had a punt and for the first time the wg left feedback first and this was first time that happened so not sure if new feature or that most girls wait to see their feedback first. So it can't be that although even if you go second they can dispute.  Not sure if a punter can dispute though.
It could be just the fact it's sex we pay and leave feedback for and this makes the brain work differently. Or the wg could spread rumours and getting you a bad rep.
But with sex comes ego too so knowing if you post a negative review you are likely to get a negative one back which reduces your overall feedback score.  I know some dudes that are as thirsty for high feedback numbers as much and even more than a large number of wgs.
Strange thing is its very easy create an account get a few positive reviews from say 3 regs or good punts then if you do get a negative delete it and start again with the regs to get minimum required feedback number. I guess this is more for regular punters rather than occasional punters though.

Yes you bring another point in here, punters ego, some are actually proud as punch to get good feedback off WGs, i couldn't care less about such a concept, its utterly ridiculous to me. Also on here some punters boast away about their punting exploits and some say they are envious or jealous of such punters, again i find this quite amazing, its NOT pulling where it can be an achievement to get an attractive woman into bed, to me anyway. Anyone with the cash can punt a WG, fun yes, something to be envious or jealous about certainly not to me. As ever though it shows how differently punters think.

Offline AnthG

Banned reason: To much drama, account closed
Banned by: Iloveoral

Offline wristjob

You can setup a new email address or with Yahoo you can have temporary email addresses, which are great for signing up to dodgy sites and if you get a load of spam just delete that temp address.

When you want to access AW both Firefox and Chrome let you create incognito/private sessions. That way there is no cache data, no history, no passwords ever saved or recorded on your computer.

Both decent options if you really want to distance yourself from AW. As it is I find the hotlists & notes useful if nothing else.

Type_O_Negative

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You can see very good prossies when you have AW account.
You can see very good prossies when you don't have AW account too.

Personally i don't have a time for exchanging emails with prossies, i just call them when their phone numbers are displayed. If not - i move on. Thus i don't need AW profile.

Offline Sir Lance-a-lot

The Adultwork feedback system has its uses, provided that you don't treat it as an unbiased review system.

It's best to avoiid girls with no feedback, those  with hidden feedback, or those with limited feedback from punters whose own feedback is dubious.  Genuine-looking feedback is an indication that the girl herself is genuine and has actually met real clients.

Presumably the escorts make similar judgements about our feedback. They don't assume that the compliments mean much, but they show that the punter has a history of actually turning up, paying, and not robbing or harming the escort.

Offline Daffodil

In the main there are zero issues with having an AW account. Obviously don't put any real details into it. Avoid using your own credit/debit card to pay for private galleries and the such...use ukcash or whatever if you must or, better yet, try asking the prossie if they can send you a picture of x, y, or z. If they think you're genuine and you don't take the piss many will oblige.

Smiths' points about feedback are valid and I'd echo his advice...have separate AW and UKP usernames and don't link them and only leave feedback here. One caveat to that is that some girls like to see some positive feedback your end so might be worth picking a couple of positives up. Your money, your rules and all that, but if you're in a punting desert a little flexibility can help.

One final point, and more for those in relationships, another secret account is just one extra account that can be found. If the other half finds you browsing AW not too much harm is done, if she finds you have an account you're up to your neck, and if she actually managed to log in and see your email exchanges/bookings/feedback you're fucked  :hi:

Quesadilla

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Thanks JBB, I am currently, as they say, 'between spouses...'


 ;)
Obviously the attached/married punters here will have a completely different view but figured I'd share mine as you are, like me "between spouses".

If you're entirely single then you really have very little to worry about.  I only punt when single and have never really bothered with all this security, secrecy and paranoia and generally I find I enjoy life and punting much more as a result. I use AW for most of my contacts and bookings with escorts (except a few trusted regs), have put negative reviews on AW with no consequences, I have no punting phone, and I generally punt outcalls to my own home address.  So far no serious issues to report although there are still some sensible precautions you learn to take.

Obviously if you're planning to carry on punting even if you get attached again then I suppose it's good practice to start being paranoid now but otherwise it's just unnecessary hassle in my view.


Offline smiths

Obviously the attached/married punters here will have a completely different view but figured I'd share mine as you are, like me "between spouses".

If you're entirely single then you really have very little to worry about.  I only punt when single and have never really bothered with all this security, secrecy and paranoia and generally I find I enjoy life and punting much more as a result. I use AW for most of my contacts and bookings with escorts (except a few trusted regs), have put negative reviews on AW with no consequences, I have no punting phone, and I generally punt outcalls to my own home address.  So far no serious issues to report although there are still some sensible precautions you learn to take.

Obviously if you're planning to carry on punting even if you get attached again then I suppose it's good practice to start being paranoid now but otherwise it's just unnecessary hassle in my view.

Of course its a matter of opinion on whether its paranoia or not, I view it as being very careful and if a punter has something to lose I see it as smart to be very careful. I also see secrecy as important because if you tell say a mate your a punter and then meet a woman who you would like a relationship with that mate COULD damage that relationship by telling her about you being a punter.

Also where you say no serious issues to report, I am glad you don't view it as a serious issue but that Becky creature who ripped you off at an Outcall to your home to the tune of £300 would be a serious issue as I see it as apart from the money she knows where you live which COULD have serious consequences in the future, though hopefully wont. And I don't mean this as a criticism, just a possibility, I appreciate the fact you named and shamed that low life.

0082

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There is another point to consider - some WG wont see punters who dont have a few positive FB.

Offline lostandfound

As others have said, THE reason not to have one is the risk of your identity, or your punting alter ego being exposed.

However, as others have also said, it's easy to minimise that risk.

I like having an account for the saved searches and hot lists. Also, I have some +ve feedback, so in the event of booking someone through AW, that may help me.

Quesadilla

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Also where you say no serious issues to report, I am glad you don't view it as a serious issue but that Becky creature who ripped you off at an Outcall to your home to the tune of £300 would be a serious issue as I see it as apart from the money she knows where you live which COULD have serious consequences in the future, though hopefully wont. And I don't mean this as a criticism, just a possibility, I appreciate the fact you named and shamed that low life.

Point taken Smiths. What I meant by no issues is no negative consequences. Losing the cash I take on the chin as a learning experience but there was literally nothing she could do but bluster so to me there's no serious issue - one to have a laugh about in hindsight.

As I said there are some steps I take now as a result of the Becky debacle, which is mainly to not punt wgs that don't have great feedback here unless I meet them first elsewhere. Opening up your house to a wg is always going to be a calculated risk but I still think a single punter has little to lose so has a much different risk profile to an attached punter.

If you have something to lose then a bit of paranoia is absolutely essential - for me I guess I'd find it takes a lot of the fun out of punting so why stress if you don't have to?

SirFrank

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If you don't want one don't get one. However IMO the pros outweigh the cons providing you take sensible precautions. Use a punting email and don't divulge personal, identifiable information

Offline Daffodil

I can only presume single guys who don't take precautions with their identity know they're never getting into a serious relationship, for whatever reason. Their own choice or not. Else they're a bit daft. As has been pointed out, you let it out that you're a punter and it stays out. That will jeopardise future relationships. Whether you like it or not, a significant proportion of women will ditch you if they know you've been banging prostitutes.

The steps to maintain your anonymity are simple. Punting phone/number, punting email and associated accounts, and don't invite prostitutes to your own home. If that causes some too much stress I'd hate to need their assistance in a fire  :music:

Offline Jimmyredcab

I can only presume single guys who don't take precautions with their identity know they're never getting into a serious relationship, for whatever reason.

If I were in a serious relationship with someone I loved I would never punt ----------- end of.     :hi:

Offline Daffodil

If I were in a serious relationship with someone I loved I would never punt ----------- end of.     :hi:

Good for you Jimmy, let's hope you find one  :rolleyes:

And also that "the one" doesn't care that you've fucked countless prossies as you've let that information into the public domain.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2015, 01:42:10 pm by Daffodil »

Offline Tdydl

I don't use the feedback system anymore now I have UKP.

My main use of the account is to maintain my blacklist and a number of hotlists in readiness for the next punt. I prefer to contact WGs on the day by phone.

Offline Jimmyredcab

Good for you Jimmy, let's hope you find one 


Highly unlikely, I am not looking, not interested in old women.

I seem to have hit a raw nerve.     :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Myself and NIK know an ex punter who has settled down with someone and up until now he has not felt the need to waste his money on hookers, why on earth would he want to.    :unknown:

Quesadilla

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My ex wife knew about my punting history and I made it perfectly clear I'd never been unfaithful before her and never would be, and was good to my word.

Also told my last girlfriend before we got serious and she had no problem with it.

Nothing I'm ashamed of about punting nor anything I've said on this forum.

Anyone who can't accept me for who I am can jog on. Life is too short in my view.



Offline Daffodil

My ex wife knew about my punting history and I made it perfectly clear I'd never been unfaithful before her and never would be, and was good to my word.

Also told my last girlfriend before we got serious and she had no problem with it.

Nothing I'm ashamed of about punting nor anything I've said on this forum.

Anyone who can't accept me for who I am can jog on. Life is too short in my view.

Not sure I believe you, but regardless, by openly admitting you fuck prostitutes you alienate a very large proportion of women. There is zero benefit to telling people you're a punter.

Even if you are happy to only choose from women who are happy with your punting exploits, I imagine most men are not. Hence the advice remains the same...take the very simple precautions and maintain your anonymity  :hi:

Offline Daffodil

Highly unlikely, I am not looking, not interested in old women.

I seem to have hit a raw nerve.     :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Myself and NIK know an ex punter who has settled down with someone and up until now he has not felt the need to waste his money on hookers, why on earth would he want to.    :unknown:

You're the one taking the thread in this direction, why try to chastise such punters at all? It seems to me that you're jealous of punters who also have a serious relationship. I guess we'll never know what you would/would not do in that situation, but feel free to speculate  :drinks:

johnnyboy61

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Getting back to the thread......

I often use the AW booking system for a first meet after I have phoned so that a WG knows that I'm unlikely to be a time waster and won't double book me. I send them a text to confirm and tell them that I have made a booking through AW.

I have had more than one occasion when I have been asked By the WG to confirm in this way and I have no problem with that as some of them do get very pissed off with time wasters, however, I never use it again after the first booking. If I revisit I assume that this is not necessary, if it is I'll look elsewhere.

Offline Daveboygreen50


You could always create the account see the girl and then delete the account.  That way you have best of both worlds.

Don't do this they can see that you gave created multiple accounts and may get suspicious.

There is a way of creating multiple accounts without them being detected, there is a thread on here of how to do it.

Offline MancSean

Don't do this they can see that you gave created multiple accounts and may get suspicious.

There is a way of creating multiple accounts without them being detected, there is a thread on here of how to do it.
If you do it right they won't find out though so advising him not to do it without knowing what you are talking about is misleading advise imo

Offline Daveboygreen50

If you do it right they won't find out though so advising him not to do it without knowing what you are talking about is misleading advise imo

I did tell him that there is a way of doing it and that there is a thread detailing how to do it on here.

Before you jump down my throat read what I have written first.

If you knew there was a right way to do it why didn't you advise him how to do it properly?

Distraction

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My ex wife knew about my punting history and I made it perfectly clear I'd never been unfaithful before her and never would be, and was good to my word.

Also told my last girlfriend before we got serious and she had no problem with it.

Nothing I'm ashamed of about punting nor anything I've said on this forum.

Anyone who can't accept me for who I am can jog on. Life is too short in my view.

Admirable bravery, however, I can't see how being too open can ever be to your advantage. This game will always be, at best, taboo, in our lifetimes. I feel no personal shame either, but there are a lot of judgmental people about.

Back to the OP's question, Sir Frank has it right about the pros outweighing the cons. I can think of a few girls who are really worth meeting but will only see you once you have some positive feedback (fortunately plenty of decent ones will do so without to get you started). One word of advice, applies for everyone, but I would say so even more for newbies - put the AW ID into the search function here and go for a girl who is well reviewed by respected members. That will help you get off the line with genuine positive feedback no worries.

I cannot see a downside to being discreet though, whatever your personal circumstances.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2015, 09:26:22 pm by Distraction »

vw

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But there are a lot of judgmental people about.
And the rest will want to charge you for a civvie free shag !

Offline Malvolio

OP - I'd recommend getting an AW account because the hot list facility is the easiest way to keep track of the WGs that you might want to see.

The second reason for getting one is that if you're looking to punt some of the very popular (on UKP) WGs you may find communication via AW to be more effective than phone calls.