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I've always preferred the part timers and the discrete prossies out there (British) who often work from home and the last thing they'd want is constant traffic to their front door all hours of the day and night, they see less punters and yes they may charge a little more but better that than giving my hard earned to robots with pimps, a revolving door, bad service, bad attitude, fairytale profile, a conveyor belt working system and a "stack em high sell em cheap" mentality (EE types) who are in general perveyors of disapointment.

Offline johnnyboy61

Price does not depend on what country you were born in (unless Romanian as they try to undercut everyone up here) it depends on what the individual girl feels is a fair price to have sex with men she may well not be attracted to. I know myself and my prossie friends don't set prices on the country they were born in but on what feels right and works well for them
A few months back a WG was having a conversation with me about the fact that she was struggling due to the influx of cheaper EE girls in her area (she was charging a quite competitive £100 p/h). She dropped her prices temporarily but she felt very uncomfortable as she felt for her own self-esteem that she didn't want to give her body away for an hour for under £100. Assuming that many other WGs also think the same way, there is a point below which they feel the money doesn't offset the feelings that they have when selling their bodies to men who they find unattractive.

This "value" that a girl will set upon themselves will vary from individual to individual, but what we haven't really discussed is that for those EE girls over here for the short term and living here as cheaply as possible, they are judging their monetary worth within the very different economic environment of their home country. If a girl can sell her body for £50p/h at home and then come over here and get double that she is probably going to be more than satisfied with that rate and it does her self-esteem no harm at all. A British WG, perhaps having to support her family, pay a mortgage, run a car and with all the other costs of living in the UK is going to see that the real value of her £100p/h is far less and consequently feels that she is selling herself below her 'worth'.

This was a very long-winded way of saying that ultimately £100 in many EE countries goes a hell of a lot further than it does in the UK. The same applies to migrant workers in other industries. Many UK citizens will not work for the pittance that some employers want to pay e.g. fruit picking, but to an EE migrant worker the value of that money when spent at home is much greater. But that's the fault of the way that the EU was expanded giving freedom of movement and labour within an area that contains quite different economies. Idiots!
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A few months back a WG was having a conversation with me about the fact that she was struggling due to the influx of cheaper EE girls in her area (she was charging a quite competitive £100 p/h). She dropped her prices temporarily but she felt very uncomfortable as she felt for her own self-esteem that she didn't want to give her body away for an hour for under £100. Assuming that many other WGs also think the same way, there is a point below which they feel the money doesn't offset the feelings that they have when selling their bodies to men who they find unattractive.

This "value" that a girl will set upon themselves will vary from individual to individual, but what we haven't really discussed is that for those EE girls over here for the short term and living here as cheaply as possible, they are judging their monetary worth within the very different economic environment of their home country. If a girl can sell her body for £50p/h at home and then come over here and get double that she is probably going to be more than satisfied with that rate and it does her self-esteem no harm at all. A British WG, perhaps having to support her family, pay a mortgage, run a car and with all the other costs of living in the UK is going to see that the real value of her £100p/h is far less and consequently feels that she is selling herself below her 'worth'.

This was a very long-winded way of saying that ultimately £100 in many EE countries goes a hell of a lot further than it does in the UK. The same applies to migrant workers in other industries. Many UK citizens will not work for the pittance that some employers want to pay e.g. fruit picking, but to an EE migrant worker the value of that money when spent at home is much greater. But that's the fault of the way that the EU was expanded giving freedom of movement and labour within an area that contains quite different economies. Idiots!
Agree, was looking into the cost of living in Poland a few weeks back and is very cheap in comparison to here.

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Offline Jimmyredcab

I am starting this thread to try and gauge the strength of feeling amongst the Punters throughout Britain. Given that we have got many foriegn WGs who are working in the UK. My personal view is that British WGs, whatever their skin colour are generally, (Not All) but I feel the majority are asking above what they need/should be charging. I really do feel that British WGs really do need to be re-evaluating what they are charging.

Some of you geezers have never heard of "market forces".     :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

If a British pro$$ie has overpriced her services she will get a dusty phone.

I know of one English girl who has charged £180-£200 an hour for the last few years, she has never needed to reduce her rates.

As with everything else in life, if something is too expensive for you, look elsewhere.     :hi:

Offline Mr Br1ghts1de

A few months back a WG was having a conversation with me about the fact that she was struggling due to the influx of cheaper EE girls in her area (she was charging a quite competitive £100 p/h). She dropped her prices temporarily but she felt very uncomfortable as she felt for her own self-esteem that she didn't want to give her body away for an hour for under £100. Assuming that many other WGs also think the same way, there is a point below which they feel the money doesn't offset the feelings that they have when selling their bodies to men who they find unattractive.

This "value" that a girl will set upon themselves will vary from individual to individual, but what we haven't really discussed is that for those EE girls over here for the short term and living here as cheaply as possible, they are judging their monetary worth within the very different economic environment of their home country. If a girl can sell her body for £50p/h at home and then come over here and get double that she is probably going to be more than satisfied with that rate and it does her self-esteem no harm at all. A British WG, perhaps having to support her family, pay a mortgage, run a car and with all the other costs of living in the UK is going to see that the real value of her £100p/h is far less and consequently feels that she is selling herself below her 'worth'.

This was a very long-winded way of saying that ultimately £100 in many EE countries goes a hell of a lot further than it does in the UK. The same applies to migrant workers in other industries. Many UK citizens will not work for the pittance that some employers want to pay e.g. fruit picking, but to an EE migrant worker the value of that money when spent at home is much greater. But that's the fault of the way that the EU was expanded giving freedom of movement and labour within an area that contains quite different economies. Idiots!

Understand the points you make Johnnyboy.

If you choose to put yourself in a certain market though, then you have to fix your pricing accordingly just like any other provider of goods or services, irrespective of where the competition is coming from.

Offline Swansea lad

Wages at work have been kept lower at many work places due to ee migration, why should wg be any different?

Offline Jimmyredcab

Wages at work have been kept lower at many work places due to ee migration, why should wg be any different?

Because a prostitute offers a very personal service ------------- unlike the Polish worker who makes your coffee in Starbucks.  :hi:

Online sushi

Wages at work have been kept lower at many work places due to ee migration, why should wg be any different?
I think what will happen is the EE's will rise their prices, I noticed a list of Romanians in wales posted recently on UKP and they're now charging £70 and £120.

Offline ramrodronnie

A few months back a WG was having a conversation with me about the fact that she was struggling due to the influx of cheaper EE girls in her area (she was charging a quite competitive £100 p/h). She dropped her prices temporarily but she felt very uncomfortable as she felt for her own self-esteem that she didn't want to give her body away for an hour for under £100. Assuming that many other WGs also think the same way, there is a point below which they feel the money doesn't offset the feelings that they have when selling their bodies to men who they find unattractive.

This "value" that a girl will set upon themselves will vary from individual to individual, but what we haven't really discussed is that for those EE girls over here for the short term and living here as cheaply as possible, they are judging their monetary worth within the very different economic environment of their home country. If a girl can sell her body for £50p/h at home and then come over here and get double that she is probably going to be more than satisfied with that rate and it does her self-esteem no harm at all. A British WG, perhaps having to support her family, pay a mortgage, run a car and with all the other costs of living in the UK is going to see that the real value of her £100p/h is far less and consequently feels that she is selling herself below her 'worth'.

This was a very long-winded way of saying that ultimately £100 in many EE countries goes a hell of a lot further than it does in the UK. The same applies to migrant workers in other industries. Many UK citizens will not work for the pittance that some employers want to pay e.g. fruit picking, but to an EE migrant worker the value of that money when spent at home is much greater. But that's the fault of the way that the EU was expanded giving freedom of movement and labour within an area that contains quite different economies. Idiots!

Thanks johnnyboy61. You make some very interesting (and in my/our vew) valid points. I would add that the standard of service must also come into the equasion. Nobody wants to be ushered in, and out like a conveyour belt irrespective of where the WG is from.
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Wages at work have been kept lower at many work places due to ee migration, why should wg be any different?

I do believe the influx of EE girls has reduced prices, and services like OWO seem to have become the rule rather than the exception. It don't think punting costs me any more now than it did 20 years ago, even though I can almost always expect extra services like OWO to be included.

It's entirely up to a service provider what she charges. And if I was doing the same work as 20 years ago I believe I'd be earning about 50% more now than I did then. Personally I probably wouldn't pay an English SP a premium over what an EE provider charges for the same service, but it doesn't surprise me that some punters are happy to do so, and for the reasons I've given, it doesn't seem unreasonable to me.  :hi:

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Some of you geezers have never heard of "market forces".     :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

If a British pro$$ie has overpriced her services she will get a dusty phone.

I know of one English girl who has charged £180-£200 an hour for the last few years, she has never needed to reduce her rates.

As with everything else in life, if something is too expensive for you, look elsewhere.     :hi:

Some haven't but at least they haven't advised a WG to raise her prices like you did BUT keep you on her old rate which she didn't do anyway, your an absolute disgrace for doing that in my view redcab. :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

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I do believe the influx of EE girls has reduced prices, and services like OWO seem to have become the rule rather than the exception. It don't think punting costs me any more now than it did 20 years ago, even though I can almost always expect extra services like OWO to be included.

It's entirely up to a service provider what she charges. And if I was doing the same work as 20 years ago I believe I'd be earning about 50% more now than I did then. Personally I probably wouldn't pay an English SP a premium over what an EE provider charges for the same service, but it doesn't surprise me that some punters are happy to do so, and for the reasons I've given, it doesn't seem unreasonable to me.  :hi:

It certainly did when EE WGs first starting coming here enmasse in the 90s AND services like kissing and OWO were often on offer unlike with Brit WGs of the time where kissing was hardly ever on offer as that was for their partners only.

My punting costs have gone down on average from 10 years ago and there aren't many things I can think of that have also gone down in that time that I pay for, newbie punters wont know this though and rightly of course are concerned with what their punting costs them now. The great thing about punting, in London at least is there are WGs in many price bands from quickies and Soho Walk-Ups to hundreds or more an hour, so choose what suits you and punt accordingly. It would be great if what UKP could do is have enough clout to reduce prices but sadly it doesn't in reality, in fact often though not always well reviewed WGs put their prices up as I have seen happening for years which is why a punter has to make a decision, does he review good WGs on here, only by PM and with punters he knows or kept them to himself. What UKP CAN and has done is out many bad WGs and rate many good WGs to help punters  decide who to punt with.

I pay what I am prepared to pay and its based up to my absolute max of £200 an hour on the WG, if I rate them irrespective of nationality I may and have paid more to punt with Brit WGs than EE WGs in recent times, if the punt was good its usually been VFM as I see it, what others do is obviously up to them.

Offline ramrodronnie

It certainly did when EE WGs first starting coming here enmasse in the 90s AND services like kissing and OWO were often on offer unlike with Brit WGs of the time where kissing was hardly ever on offer as that was for their partners only.

My punting costs have gone down on average from 10 years ago and there aren't many things I can think of that have also gone down in that time that I pay for, newbie punters wont know this though and rightly of course are concerned with what their punting costs them now. The great thing about punting, in London at least is there are WGs in many price bands from quickies and Soho Walk-Ups to hundreds or more an hour, so choose what suits you and punt accordingly. It would be great if what UKP could do is have enough clout to reduce prices but sadly it doesn't in reality, in fact often though not always well reviewed WGs put their prices up as I have seen happening for years which is why a punter has to make a decision, does he review good WGs on here, only by PM and with punters he knows or kept them to himself. What UKP CAN and has done is out many bad WGs and rate many good WGs to help punters  decide who to punt with.

I pay what I am prepared to pay and its based up to my absolute max of £200 an hour on the WG, if I rate them irrespective of nationality I may and have paid more to punt with Brit WGs than EE WGs in recent times, if the punt was good its usually been VFM as I see it, what others do is obviously up to them.

Interesting, and in my opinion Very, Very Valid point you have raised regarding the more positive FBs that Any WG gets on AW, they (generally) increase their rates, as they obviously feel that they're popular enough to justify doing so.It would be difficult to understand anyone disagreeing with that point. So given that, it would be more beneficial to us if we didn't give positive FBs?????       :unknown:
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Interesting, and in my opinion Very, Very Valid point you have raised regarding the more positive FBs that Any WG gets on AW, they (generally) increase their rates, as they obviously feel that they're popular enough to justify doing so.It would be difficult to understand anyone disagreeing with that point. So given that, it would be more beneficial to us if we didn't give positive FBs?????       :unknown:

I was only talking about when getting positive reviews on here, A/W is a site owned by low lifes who I have ZERO faith in so I don't believe ANY FB on their unless I know, trust and/or respect the punter.

As I said its up to punters to decide if they wish to do reviews on here or not, if no one did any positive reviews a lot of punters who are members or just reading reviews would be finding it more difficult to locate good WGs.

Offline ramrodronnie

I was only talking about when getting positive reviews on here, A/W is a site owned by low lifes who I have ZERO faith in so I don't believe ANY FB on their unless I know, trust and/or respect the punter.

As I said its up to punters to decide if they wish to do reviews on here or not, if no one did any positive reviews a lot of punters who are members or just reading reviews would be finding it more difficult to locate good WGs.

I Totally agree with your point smiths regarding not believing All FBs on AW, although there are some genuine ones, as I know that I personally have given Positive FBs and FRs on AW. But suffuced to say I am "Very" Suspicious about many of the FBs & FRs, so I Totally agree with you on that point. But in my limited experience the WGs who I have spoken to have never heard of UKP, especially EE WGs. So personally I'm not convinced that by giving Positive Reviews (at the momen) on UKP would have much impact on how WGs decide what rates they charge? 
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I Totally agree with your point smiths regarding not believing All FBs on AW, although there are some genuine ones, as I know that I personally have given Positive FBs and FRs on AW. But suffuced to say I am "Very" Suspicious about many of the FBs & FRs, so I Totally agree with you on that point. But in my limited experience the WGs who I have spoken to have never heard of UKP, especially EE WGs. So personally I'm not convinced that by giving Positive Reviews (at the momen) on UKP would have much impact on how WGs decide what rates they charge?

Yes I agree but where it can and has led too an increase in rates is with some forum darlings, and this has always been the case in my observations on here and elsewhere.

Offline Jimmyredcab

But in my limited experience the WGs who I have spoken to have never heard of UKP, especially EE WGs.

It is strange that as soon as a pro$$ie get a negative review she gets to hear about it.

Currently there are 950 guests online and 438 members ------------------ no other UK forum comes close.    :hi:

Online smiths

It is strange that as soon as a pro$$ie get a negative review she gets to hear about it.

Currently there are 950 guests online and 438 members ------------------ no other UK forum comes close.    :hi:

I don't think its strange at all, either other WGs who read UKP avidly are informing such WGs they have a negative review on here, or someone else who doesn't like UKP.

Offline ramrodronnie

It could be a bit of a conundrum then smiths, as we as punters want to know through Positive Reviews on UKP as they can help other punters in choosing which WGs they want to see. But if we give Positive Reviews we are then to a degree encouraging "Some" WGs to increase their  rates?   :unknown:
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Online smiths

It could be a bit of a conundrum then smiths, as we as punters want to know through Positive Reviews on UKP as they can help other punters in choosing which WGs they want to see. But if we give Positive Reviews we are then to a degree encouraging "Some" WGs to increase their  rates?   :unknown:

No WE as punters aren't encouraging ANY WGs to increase their rates unless your redcab who HAS actually advised a WG to increase her rate but keep him on her old rate which she didn't do anyway, and posted he would do so again. :rolleyes: that's the WGs decision 100% in my opinion.

But in my view punters are wise to think carefully whether to review positively or not but if they do no point in moaning if the WG does increase her rates and/or becomes harder to book including to them, though I would say most WGs who were regulars of mine didn't ask me to pay their increased rate which is smart in my view, but a number of forum darlings who weren't regulars did increase their rates including to me.

No WE as punters aren't encouraging ANY WGs to increase their rates unless your redcab who HAS actually advised a WG to increase her rate but keep him on her old rate which she didn't do anyway, and posted he would do so again. :rolleyes: that's the WGs decision 100% in my opinion.

But in my view punters are wise to think carefully whether to review positively or not but if they do no point in moaning if the WG does increase her rates and/or becomes harder to book including to them, though I would say most WGs who were regulars of mine didn't ask me to pay their increased rate which is smart in my view, but a number of forum darlings who weren't regulars did increase their rates including to me.

When i visited Khloe she told me she almost everyday meets wankers who tell her to put her prices up. But she is very smart and tactical girl - she is in charge in her business not these pricks. They get on my nerves!

Offline ramrodronnie

Yeah whatever. I'm just going to carry on being honest. When I have a good punt, I'll Review it as such. And the same for Negatives. Simples. I don't give a shit, if the girl puts her rates up too high I'll simply move on to another who I feel is offering a better deal POF and all that!   :cool:
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