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Offline Dime

It has crossed my mind a few times but I'd probably  never seriously go through with it. I have seen agency websites recruitment page in whcih the WG has to fill in her details, attach photos and she will then be invited in for an interview and photoshoot. I stand to be corrected,but  I get the impression than any girl (as long as they are reasonably attractive and confident) can sign up/register with an agency, as they are not actually "employed" by the agency, as the girls generally choose to work as many or as little hours as they like- this does obviously not happen in a normal workplace. The interview is probably the pimp explaining to the girl exactly what escorting involves, about the incall location, types of clients etc. The agency just acts as a middleman between client and girl , though they provide an incall flat, and transport. Girls are generally expected to buy condoms, any sex toys, stockings, uniforms and bondage materials like cuffs etc themselves.

Offline smiths

It has crossed my mind a few times but I'd probably  never seriously go through with it. I have seen agency websites recruitment page in whcih the WG has to fill in her details, attach photos and she will then be invited in for an interview and photoshoot. I stand to be corrected,but  I get the impression than any girl (as long as they are reasonably attractive and confident) can sign up/register with an agency, as they are not actually "employed" by the agency, as the girls generally choose to work as many or as little hours as they like- this does obviously not happen in a normal workplace. The interview is probably the pimp explaining to the girl exactly what escorting involves, about the incall location, types of clients etc. The agency just acts as a middleman between client and girl , though they provide an incall flat, and transport. Girls are generally expected to buy condoms, any sex toys, stockings, uniforms and bondage materials like cuffs etc themselves.

Not all Agencies do the photos, that's up to the WG to pay for and as I have said many Agencies don't provide the WGs premises so as to avoid being done for running a brothel. You are right to say WGs aren't employed a such, they are self employed and so responsible for paying tax themselves BUT in reality often the pimp runs the show and dictates what hours they want the WG to work.

Any WG could work at an Agency if the pimp thinks she will bring in punters, if she doesn't it wouldn't be long before they are got rid of. If an interview face to face rather than the WG just emailing or posting her photos to the pimp and just speaking on the phone occurs dependent on the pimp it could be the casting couch that the pimp is interested in, Max Angel of Maxes Angels being one pimp who likes to fuck his WGs. The Agency of course gets the WGs punters so all they have to do is turn up in exchange for an agreed cut of at least a third of the WGs fees, money for old rope with small running costs, basically a website and a mobile phone, but by taking that cut the pimp is controlling prostitutes for gain and could get done.


Offline NIK

Not all Agencies do the photos, that's up to the WG to pay for and as I have said many Agencies don't provide the WGs premises so as to avoid being done for running a brothel. You are right to say WGs aren't employed a such, they are self employed and so responsible for paying tax themselves BUT in reality often the pimp runs the show and dictates what hours they want the WG to work.

Any WG could work at an Agency if the pimp thinks she will bring in punters, if she doesn't it wouldn't be long before they are got rid of. If an interview face to face rather than the WG just emailing or posting her photos to the pimp and just speaking on the phone occurs dependent on the pimp it could be the casting couch that the pimp is interested in, Max Angel of Maxes Angels being one pimp who likes to fuck his WGs. The Agency of course gets the WGs punters so all they have to do is turn up in exchange for an agreed cut of at least a third of the WGs fees, money for old rope with small running costs, basically a website and a mobile phone, but by taking that cut the pimp is controlling prostitutes for gain and could get done.

In my naivety I used to think agencies always interviewed girls, however that is certainly not the case.
I first met Nicoletta when she was working for Barracuda. Saw her a couple of times before she disappeared. Eventually she returned and I saw her again through Barracuda. This was still before she went indie. However she told me that to get more work she'd sent her photos to a number of agencies who had all put them up without even interviewing her. Now Nic is great, but for all they knew (or care!) she could easily have been crap!
This demonstrated to me that there is absolutely no quality control at all from most agencies and they will simply take on anyone.  :mad:  Also why so many girls are on many different agency sites.

Offline Dime

Not all Agencies do the photos, that's up to the WG to pay for and as I have said many Agencies don't provide the WGs premises so as to avoid being done for running a brothel. You are right to say WGs aren't employed a such, they are self employed and so responsible for paying tax themselves BUT in reality often the pimp runs the show and dictates what hours they want the WG to work.

Any WG could work at an Agency if the pimp thinks she will bring in punters, if she doesn't it wouldn't be long before they are got rid of. If an interview face to face rather than the WG just emailing or posting her photos to the pimp and just speaking on the phone occurs dependent on the pimp it could be the casting couch that the pimp is interested in, Max Angel of Maxes Angels being one pimp who likes to fuck his WGs. The Agency of course gets the WGs punters so all they have to do is turn up in exchange for an agreed cut of at least a third of the WGs fees, money for old rope with small running costs, basically a website and a mobile phone, but by taking that cut the pimp is controlling prostitutes for gain and could get done.
However, in reality do you think all WGs who work for an agency do pay tax themselves, even if they are legally supposed to?  I imagine if they declared their earnings to HMRC registered as self-employed, they'd be taxed rather heavily bearing in mind they are earning good money- on average £100 an hour once they pay their £50 cut or whatever to the agency. On the other hand, some agencies might take care of that side of things and pay the tax themselves for the girls- that could be where the cut the girls pay to the agency comes in, as well as for the the use of incall flats and drivers.

Offline NIK

However, in reality do you think all WGs who work for an agency do pay tax themselves, even if they are legally supposed to?  I imagine if they declared their earnings to HMRC registered as self-employed, they'd be taxed rather heavily bearing in mind they are earning good money- on average £100 an hour once they pay their £50 cut or whatever to the agency. On the other hand, some agencies might take care of that side of things and pay the tax themselves for the girls- that could be where the cut the girls pay to the agency comes in, as well as for the the use of incall flats and drivers.

Many agencies probably don't pay tax themselves never mind on behalf of the girls!
Indeed the first agency I came across who were closed down in the early 2000's - Crème de la Femme (which I used once in 2001)  - went I believe for tax irregularities rather than trafficking. And there have been a number of others.

Offline smiths

In my naivety I used to think agencies always interviewed girls, however that is certainly not the case.
I first met Nicoletta when she was working for Barracuda. Saw her a couple of times before she disappeared. Eventually she returned and I saw her again through Barracuda. This was still before she went indie. However she told me that to get more work she'd sent her photos to a number of agencies who had all put them up without even interviewing her. Now Nic is great, but for all they knew (or care!) she could easily have been crap!
This demonstrated to me that there is absolutely no quality control at all from most agencies and they will simply take on anyone.  :mad:  Also why so many girls are on many different agency sites.

Absolutely, the point here is we aren't talking about Asda etc, its a pimp who in many cases though not all wont give a shit about anything but making money by leeching off WGs. WGs go on various Agency sites for a number of reasons, one can be the Agencies are actually owned by the same pimp or the WG might not be as busy as she wants to be at one so goes to another, if she is providing the premises its just a case of ringing her with a booking and she could be on countless Agencies as long as she is smart enough not to double book herself, though some Agency pimps get the right arsehole with WGs who are on other Agency sites that are competitors. Another reason is a WG might be a so called Indie as well and move around the country so gets on Agency sites in the areas she knows she will be in. Another reason is to try to fool punters who have reported the WG as offering a bad service using her name with one Agency so she uses another or others with other Agencies, the pimp themselves often changes WGs names after bad publicity as well or moves her to another part of his or her operation.

Offline smiths

However, in reality do you think all WGs who work for an agency do pay tax themselves, even if they are legally supposed to?  I imagine if they declared their earnings to HMRC registered as self-employed, they'd be taxed rather heavily bearing in mind they are earning good money- on average £100 an hour once they pay their £50 cut or whatever to the agency. On the other hand, some agencies might take care of that side of things and pay the tax themselves for the girls- that could be where the cut the girls pay to the agency comes in, as well as for the the use of incall flats and drivers.

Certainly not all will that's for sure, I personally doubt many do but my view on that is I pay tax and that goes to employing tax collectors and leave it to them to collect owed tax.

I very much doubt many if any Agencies pay tax themselves despite what they might say on here and elsewhere let alone pay the WGs share. Once again we are talking about pimps who are breaking the law, many at least would want to have as little to do with government official bodies like the taxman in my view as possible as that could lead to them getting nicked. There could be a few that do pay tax though and the taxman would take the tax as the pimp would know that would be one less offence in the event of getting nicked to worry about, once the tax is paid even from a proven illegal set-up I imagine the taxman keeps it even if the police go after the pimp under POCA which is designed to seize pimps assets adjudged as having been bought with money accrued through their illegal business.

Offline bensonhedges20

@ nik

You were too smart. You only relied on the local paper.

I reckon if you or anyone wanted to start an escort agency you should move to glasgow and cover the two main cities.

Two reasons:

1- edinburgh is escort zombieland after 5-6pm
2- currently the two agencies are okay but not superb.

To be successful you need two things now.

1- advertising via adultwork as well as a website ( these are basic and dont cost much now)
2- low pricing. I believe if you set a price of £120 with pimp getting 20 and escort 100 you could have plenty girls.

To be successful you nees to find students from stirling, glasgow and edimburgh unis. Easily done now.

I think a good escort agency would thrive in glasgow/edinburgh
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Offline solway

Would it be fraudulent to book a hotel room invite girls up for "auditions" trial them out & then say na this agency lark will no work out    :D

Offline SophieScott

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It has crossed my mind a few times but I'd probably  never seriously go through with it. I have seen agency websites recruitment page in whcih the WG has to fill in her details, attach photos and she will then be invited in for an interview and photoshoot. I stand to be corrected,but  I get the impression than any girl (as long as they are reasonably attractive and confident) can sign up/register with an agency, as they are not actually "employed" by the agency, as the girls generally choose to work as many or as little hours as they like- this does obviously not happen in a normal workplace. The interview is probably the pimp explaining to the girl exactly what escorting involves, about the incall location, types of clients etc. The agency just acts as a middleman between client and girl , though they provide an incall flat, and transport. Girls are generally expected to buy condoms, any sex toys, stockings, uniforms and bondage materials like cuffs etc themselves.

Agencies get a really bad name amongst alot of independent girls, but I think good, reliable agencies have their place.  I worked for one very briefly before I went indie, although I would never do it again myself, I can see why some WGs do prefer that way of working.  Your advertising is taken care of so you don't spend ages every day responding to emails, you don't have to deal with timewasters and so on, and some girls feel it's safer, although I'd say that's very, very debatable.

What Dime describes is pretty much exactly how things were with the agency I worked for when I was there, although it was outcalls only and you could only choose your hours to an extent - you had to work at least 5 nights a week, and if you were on call you were expected to be up all night waiting on jobs and more or less ready, as you had to get to the clients in around half an hour.  I understand that's the case more or less everywhere.   Interview was the lady who ran the agency explaining hours, fees, set up, what she expected of you and so on (no 'casting couch', although I have heard of that going on).   We had to supply all condoms, outfits and so on ourselves.

I've often thought that if you set up an agency, treated the girls right, screened clients properly and gave them the right girl for them and took a fair cut, you could be really successful, although as others have said you have the police and POCA to worry about too.  It's not something I'd ever consider doing myself though.

Offline GalaxyMan

I used to frequent a brothel in Ilford and the female owner would often moan about how unreliable the girls were, one girl phoned to say she was on her way -------------- and never arrived.      :wackogirl: :wackogirl:

Indeed.  I bet that was a giggle, even on a Sunni day

(I wonder what she's up to these days.....)

GM

Offline bensonhedges20

Would it be fraudulent to book a hotel room invite girls up for "auditions" trial them out & then say na this agency lark will no work out    :D

Isnt that what model agencies do? Invite to a hotel room for pictures etc. Nothing illegal about it
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Offline tazz

I can never understand why some agencies get busted by the police whilst others have been around for over a decade. Im sure in order to exist they either have to pay protection money to gangsters and bribes to the police. So many coppers are notoriously corrupt, thats how so many illegal sex shops were getting away with it for years in Soho.


Offline Dime

@ nik

You were too smart. You only relied on the local paper.

I reckon if you or anyone wanted to start an escort agency you should move to glasgow and cover the two main cities.

Two reasons:

1- edinburgh is escort zombieland after 5-6pm
2- currently the two agencies are okay but not superb.

To be successful you need two things now.

1- advertising via adultwork as well as a website ( these are basic and dont cost much now)
2- low pricing. I believe if you set a price of £120 with pimp getting 20 and escort 100 you could have plenty girls.

To be successful you nees to find students from stirling, glasgow and edimburgh unis. Easily done now.


I think a good escort agency would thrive in glasgow/edinburgh

Totally agree. I went to Stirling uni, and for all I know some girls who I used to sit in classes with could have worked as escorts in secret. Layla and Katie from GAE are  uni students, so there are some students doing it, but as you say a really good, professionally run escort agency would thrive. I like GAE, but even one of their girls (Layla I think) said to me "they're not the best agency, as they can get a lot of things wrong". They lie about girls ages, photos are sometimes photo shopped, and girls don't always do what is on their profile- Mia and Lola classic examples.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2015, 11:06:54 PM by Dime »

Offline Dime

Agencies get a really bad name amongst alot of independent girls, but I think good, reliable agencies have their place.  I worked for one very briefly before I went indie, although I would never do it again myself, I can see why some WGs do prefer that way of working.  Your advertising is taken care of so you don't spend ages every day responding to emails, you don't have to deal with timewasters and so on, and some girls feel it's safer, although I'd say that's very, very debatable.

What Dime describes is pretty much exactly how things were with the agency I worked for when I was there, although it was outcalls only and you could only choose your hours to an extent - you had to work at least 5 nights a week, and if you were on call you were expected to be up all night waiting on jobs and more or less ready, as you had to get to the clients in around half an hour.  I understand that's the case more or less everywhere.   Interview was the lady who ran the agency explaining hours, fees, set up, what she expected of you and so on (no 'casting couch', although I have heard of that going on).   We had to supply all condoms, outfits and so on ourselves.

I've often thought that if you set up an agency, treated the girls right, screened clients properly and gave them the right girl for them and took a fair cut, you could be really successful, although as others have said you have the police and POCA to worry about too.  It's not something I'd ever consider doing myself though.
Another thing I've always wondered is do agencies assign girls their working/code name at the interview or do the girls choose an alias themselves? The reason I ask is the agency I use in Glasgow has girls who have the same working names as girls who left months ago, so it seems to me that the agency have a bank of names they assign to girls.

Offline SophieScott

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Another thing I've always wondered is do agencies assign girls their working/code name at the interview or do the girls choose an alias themselves? The reason I ask is the agency I use in Glasgow has girls who have the same working names as girls who left months ago, so it seems to me that the agency have a bank of names they assign to girls.

The one I worked for asked me what I wanted to be called, I was brand new to the industry so didn't have a clue so we kind of came up with one together.  I don't know if that's typical or not though.

Online webpunter

A real life mate of mine ran a stripper agency for about a year.  He's a bit of an Arfur Daley and admitted eventually that his logic behind doing this was to have a bit of fun, shag some of the strippers [which he did] and try and make some money [which he didn't].  Too much time & hassle and easier ways to make money although a laugh along the way.  I didn't find out until after he stopped.  Cunt  :lol:

Offline bensonhedges20

Totally agree. I went to Stirling uni, and for all I know some girls who I used to sit in classes with could have worked as escorts in secret. Layla and Katie from GAE are  uni students, so there are some students doing it, but as you say a really good, professionally run escort agency would thrive. I like GAE, but even one of their girls (Layla I think) said to me "they're not the best agency, as they can get a lot of things wrong". They lie about girls ages, photos are sometimes photo shopped, and girls don't always do what is on their profile- Mia and Lola classic examples.

I say stirling uni, glasgow, edinburgh and strathclyde as i have seen many girls that are escorting at the sife through sugardaddy websites. Their profiles dont last long (maybe second thoughts but i have met a few for not alot of cash).

Secondly, they are either okay with it or not. Many do consider it if yoir not a timewaster
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Offline solway

Spot on Dime - Mia & Lola lovely girls but do not do what they advertise.Add Robyn too.


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