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Author Topic: Michelle Independent ~ Birmingham  (Read 8318 times)


115 review(s) for Michelle Independent (112 positive, 0 neutral, 3 negative) [Indexed by Admin]


Offline smiths

Decided to add my thoughts to the topic.
The thing is, this was always gonna be a negative review. If you have a quick look at his posts towards me in the last two years I know he had no interest to have a good time with me.
You gentleman ask him to provide more details of the meeting and what went wrong. Answer is he can't. Because there was nothing as such.
Was I freshly showered? I was.
Did I provide services advertised with enthusiasm? I did.
Was that me in the pictures? It was.
Thing is when Jimmy said I have no negative reviews he just decided to give it a go just for the sake of doing so. He makes meeting so awkward and horrible it was the worst in my life. It's no shock to me that Madlin Moon cut a meeting within first 5 min. To be honest I though about doing just that. But I put all my power to make sure he will have a good time and I continue. He just didn't want to have a good time from the beginning to start with.

Seeing as this IS a punters forum the OP has every right to post this review up as you do in this reply. I have zero interest in punting with you but this 1 negative wouldn't put me off you if I were interested as your other reviews are good if not better mainly.

....If it happens on here there are mutterings of Fluffy or White Knight. This seems more than a little unfair.

Not if they immediately beat a path to her door suffering from 'DiD'* syndrome - as happens when a popular girl gets criticised. MI may well find herself busier than usual over the next week or two. Something similar happened on the NW board a few weeks ago. Four +ve reviews over a few months for a girl, then I neg'd her, two more -ve's suddenly pop up saying she did the same thing to them and then within a week three more +ve's.

tcm

* DiD = Damsel in Distress

Offline smiths

https://www.adultwork.com/1583488

I've never visited a Soho walk-up, but if I did.....

Not much of a welcome on arrival - just the strong odour of stale smoke. No offer of a drink, no banter, no general pleasantries, more or less corralled straight up the stairs in true 'GFE' fashion. It's hard finding the words/energy/motivation to sum up this punt but; below average, awkward, perfunctory, uninspiring and tiresome, would make a good start...... and finishing point.

 :hi:

Sorry to read about this B&G and like with your Madlin Moon negative I find it a great pity some question you, I have no reason to doubt you as you have been a member for years and I take this as your opinion of the punt.

This white knighting of some forum darlings that some do on here is a VERY bad thing to see in my view when its been established the punt happened as MI has confirmed it did in her post which means it comes down to YOUR opinion which you are of course fully entitled to post as you see fit.


115 review(s) found for Michelle Independent linked to in above post (112 positive, 0 neutral, 3 negative)

Sorry to read about this B&G and like with your Madlin Moon negative I find it a great pity some question you, I have no reason to doubt you as you have been a member for years and I take this as your opinion of the punt.

This white knighting of some forum darlings that some do on here is a VERY bad thing to see in my view when its been established the punt happened as MI has confirmed it did in her post which means it comes down to YOUR opinion which you are of course fully entitled to post as you see fit.

+1000

Excelent post - as always.

Offline NIK

The problem is that the original review is very brief and contains many subjective statements without giving enough objective detail as to what went on to back up these statements. I'm not doubting that the OP feels how he did, but he knew he would be rattling the cages of Michelle's many fans, so the brevity of the review almost seems deliberately provocative.

Yes, that is exactly how I immediately interpreted it on a first reading. And I have no axe to grind. I have never seen Michelle and doubt I ever will.


Offline SirFrank

I've never met Michelle so I can't offer an opinion either way. Based on my experience of her on here she seems like a sweet girl and her general reviews on here and AW speak for themselves. I have had some recent comms via AW (my accounts aren't linked) but never managed to meet in Brum as she's nearly always on tour in London. However, her comms have always been polite and timely. Consequently, Would this review put me off seeing her? No, of course It wouldn't because anyone with an ounce of sense takes reviews in context.

However, to suggest a punter, especially one who has been a member for over 3 years and contributes consistently to UKP, would pay to have a deliberately shit punt just so they could leave a negative is ludicrous. The most surprising aspects here however are some of the responses to the review itself; some of which appear to imply that B&G is lying. I'm constantly staggered re the response to negative reviews of some girls on here. Its now become predictable and laughable. We are getting to the stage where many member will surely think twice about leaving what they feel is a justified negative. No one really asks for some kind of addional validation or clarification for a positive, yet certain negatives on here appear to be about as welcome as Don Cheadle in a KKK meeting.

On another note, what Michelle, her boyfriend and or do dog gets up to is of no interest to me - it's her private life after all
« Last Edit: August 25, 2015, 09:46:39 PM by SirFrank »
Banning reason: Shitstirring against admin on behalf of banned member

Offline smiths

I've never met Michelle so I can't offer an opinion either way. Based on my experience of her on here she seems like a sweet girl and her general reviews on here and AW speak for themselves. I have had some recent comms via AW (my accounts aren't linked) but never managed to meet in Brum as she's nearly always on tour in London. However, her comms have always been polite and timely. Consequently, Would this review put me off seeing her? No, of course It wouldn't because anyone with an ounce of sense takes reviews in context.

However, to suggest a punter, especially one who has been a member for over 3 years and contributes consistently to UKP, would pay to have a deliberately shit punt just so they could leave a negative is ludicrous. The most surprising aspects here however are some of the responses to the review itself; some of which appear to imply that B&G is lying. I'm constantly staggered re the response to negative reviews of some girls on here. Its now become predictable and laughable. We are getting to the stage where many member will surely think twice about leaving what they feel is a justified negative. No one really asks for some kind of addional validation or clarification for a positive, yet certain negatives on here appear to be about as welcome as Don Cheadle in a KKK meeting.

On another note, what Michelle, her boyfriend and or do dog gets up to is of no interest to me - it's her private life after all

I really hope what you say in your second paragraph doesn't happen as that would suit bad WGs, their pimps and some white knights. As to B&G lying Michelle has confirmed the punt DID occur so fuck knows why anyone would think he was lying, and that's not even taking into account his credibility of being a member on here for years.

I've never met Michelle so I can't offer an opinion either way. Based on my experience of her on here she seems like a sweet girl and her general reviews on here and AW speak for themselves. I have had some recent comms via AW (my accounts aren't linked) but never managed to meet in Brum as she's nearly always on tour in London. However, her comms have always been polite and timely. Consequently, Would this review put me off seeing her? No, of course It wouldn't because anyone with an ounce of sense takes reviews in context.

However, to suggest a punter, especially one who has been a member for over 3 years and contributes consistently to UKP, would pay to have a deliberately shit punt just so they could leave a negative is ludicrous. The most surprising aspects here however are some of the responses to the review itself; some of which appear to imply that B&G is lying. I'm constantly staggered re the response to negative reviews of some girls on here. Its now become predictable and laughable. We are getting to the stage where many member will surely think twice about leaving what they feel is a justified negative. No one really asks for some kind of addional validation or clarification for a positive, yet certain negatives on here appear to be about as welcome as Don Cheadle in a KKK meeting.

On another note, what Michelle, her boyfriend and or do dog gets up to is of no interest to me - it's her private life after all
Does this not go back to the previous debate about a group of punters who don't view punting as paid sex encounters but more a form of dating where they view wgs as there friends...
Punters like this will always behave in the way you describe

Offline LL

My first venture into a regional section outside London and the Home Counties. I do have to take this review with a pinch of salt, like many of you. I don't normally come to stand in defence of WGs nor get fluffy about a negative review for somebody I had a nice time with. Some people get too hung up on reviews here - punters and prossies. I'm actually suspicious of a WG who only has positive reviews and no negatives or neutrals! You can't please everybody and we all have different opinions and interpretations. Look at trip advisor as an example. Look up your favourite holiday resort or hotel and you'll find mixed reviews for it - I almost guarantee that. It's not about some holiday reviewer trying to be the first one to give Monaco or Venice a negative rating. People like different things.

All that said, if you look at the overwhelming number of positive reviews for Michelle, from many, many established members, it's blindingly obvious that she's extremely good at what she does. plus I've seen her myself and I can therefore confirm this statement from personal experience. So one, or two guys didn't have a nice time with her. That's fair comment and adds balance to get overall profile. It's not going to sway my own judgement since that's already made up. I'm also not even going to care about the background of the review/s. The reviewer has an axe to grind or he genuinely received shit service?  Whatever happened doesn't make any difference to me. I know that she is good at what she does 99% of the time if not 100% of the time.

That's all. I retreat back to my comfort-zone of the London sections :). Where is this "West Midlands" place that you speak of anyway?!*

* just joking of course my punting brothers from other areas ;)

Offline smiths

Does this not go back to the previous debate about a group of punters who don't view punting as paid sex encounters but more a form of dating where they view wgs as there friends...
Punters like this will always behave in the way you describe

Yes they aren't going to change as that's how they genuinely think.

Offline LL

Yes they aren't going to change as that's how they genuinely think.
We definitely have a few of those. Like the one who took Hot Amera to a concert and spent some hours with her on a "date". Buried in his review was an admission that cash had been exchanged, albeit less than she would have charged a normal punter with whom she didn't share such a special bond :D
These girls aren't stupid. They'll give the big spenders a discount from time to time in order to keep them as regulars. It's the prossies who are winning in the end, financially, not the punters!

Online shagbambi

B&G had a bad punt as he has told us.  Sorry to hear.
It happens, as a fellow punter reminded me today, there are no sure punts.

That B&G has a high number of negative punts, it happens too.  But he also has postive punts.  We recently had a thread where posters were vociferous regarding reviewers that only had positive punts and that they could not be trusted. Yet here we can't trust somebody that has a fairly balanced set of reviews in terms of both positive and negative.  Strange I think. 

Others bang on about punters reviewing, especially their negs, but we castigate those that report back what we don't expect or don't want to hear. 

A little bit of balance would not go amiss.  It's the OP's opinion and he is entitled to it.

We definitely have a few of those. Like the one who took Hot Amera to a concert and spent some hours with her on a "date". Buried in his review was an admission that cash had been exchanged, albeit less than she would have charged a normal punter with whom she didn't share such a special bond :D
These girls aren't stupid. They'll give the big spenders a discount from time to time in order to keep them as regulars. It's the prossies who are winning in the end, financially, not the punters!
Yeah I remember that,the geezer was married too,just too weird

never understood the whole taking them to concerts on 'dates'.....so false

never understood the whole taking them to concerts on 'dates'.....so false

It may be something to do with midlife crisis.

It may just be that after all her overwhelming positives, on this occasion
and for this punter she failed to live up to the hype.
When i was young my mates raved about "Star Wars".i saw it but
left the cinema underwhelmed.

Offline fredpunter

never understood the whole taking them to concerts on 'dates'.....so false

This is getting silly now. I don't think that was ever described as a date. Two folk both wanted to go to a show ... so they went together. There's no reason why you can't be chums with and socialise with your grocer, window cleaner, bank manager ..... so why not with your prossie? I've played golf many times with a chap who fixes my washing machine if it goes wrong ... I still pay him if he has to fix it but I don't pay him to play golf with me .... what's the difference?

does he charge you an hourly fee to play golf with him?

Offline AnthG

No offer of a drink, no banter, no general pleasantries, more or less corralled straight up the stairs in true 'GFE' fashion

This thread is already epic long. And I haven't read it all, so someone possibly has already said this.

But this part of the review. Many people if the girl actually did this could feel it was timewasting and leave a negative for that. So its kind of a no win situation.

For most girls for me, and depending on the length of time for the booking - i.e if it was a 30min or 45min booking. I do not want a drink, or banter, or pleasantries I want to get straight to it.

In Newcastle there is a girl called Keeva who is very well regarded because basically as soon as you get into her flat she is all over you in effect and there is no time for pleasantries. This may have been the type of booking Michelle was aiming for. As in a more PSE type booking.

Offline Quesadilla


...However, to suggest a punter, especially one who has been a member for over 3 years and contributes consistently to UKP, would pay to have a deliberately shit punt just so they could leave a negative is ludicrous. The most surprising aspects here however are some of the responses to the review itself; some of which appear to imply that B&G is lying. I'm constantly staggered re the response to negative reviews of some girls on here. Its now become predictable and laughable. We are getting to the stage where many member will surely think twice about leaving what they feel is a justified negative. No one really asks for some kind of addional validation or clarification for a positive, yet certain negatives on here appear to be about as welcome as Don Cheadle in a KKK meeting.


B&Gs review history and post history speak for themselves Frank. No doubt he is a reliable source for those with similar tastes in escorts. But for some his attitude towards wgs in general and the fluffy punters with whom MI is so especially popular does lend doubt to his review - particularly when it is so lacking in detail and so subjective.

Everyone would agree that a similarly brief  and subjectively gushing positive review by a "fluffy" would result in the same resistance by B&G himself and others here attempting to discredit them and/or their review.  Surely what's good for the fluffy cunts is just as good for those at the other end of the spectrum. As they never cease to remind us they are free to post whatever they want. As is everyone.

I also agree, the forum would be a sad place if all reviews were reduced to a pro-fluffy / anti-fluffy flame war.  :unknown:

Banning reason: Obnoxious and arrogant + Veiled threat of outing punter on UKE

Offline fredpunter

does he charge you an hourly fee to play golf with him?

Can you read?

Offline fredpunter

Can you read?

actually scratch that - just re-read the relevant review - I hadn't registered he paid her to go to the show ..... not the same as my golfing 

Online Jimmyredcab

B&G had a bad punt as he has told us.  Sorry to hear.
It happens, as a fellow punter reminded me today, there are no sure punts.

That B&G has a high number of negative punts, it happens too.  But he also has postive punts. 

It's the ratio that I query.      :unknown: :unknown:

Out of 21 punts I would expect 3 or 4 to be negative ---------------- for 13 to be negative suggests to me that the problem lies with the OP, maybe he is too fussy, maybe he simply has a dislike of hookers.

My first punt with Michelle was in Chingford, she had no idea who I was on arrival but treated me to a first class girlfriend experience, 52 other members on here have also received a fantastic service  --------- you should bear that in mind when making a judgement as to the value of this latest review.     :hi:

Offline Quesadilla

It's the ratio that I query.      :unknown: :unknown:

Out of 21 punts I would expect 3 or 4 to be negative ---------------- for 13 to be negative suggests to me that the problem lies with the OP, maybe he is too fussy, maybe he simply has a dislike of hookers.

My first punt with Michelle was in Chingford, she had no idea who I was on arrival but treated me to a first class girlfriend experience, 52 other members on here have also received a fantastic service  --------- you should bear that in mind when making a judgement as to the value of this latest review.     :hi:

Rare that I agree with you JRC but every now and then you really make sense.  :hi:
Banning reason: Obnoxious and arrogant + Veiled threat of outing punter on UKE




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