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vw

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My 3 star rating for Katy is now showing on their website :thumbsup:
Bet the pimp takes it down when your not looking.

Online FLYING BLUE

Quote from Anth -

My last punt with Diamonds which caused me to quit using them I paid for 45 mins and only got barely 30mins. I complained like crazy to them about it and their attude was literally....and...so...

I also had a complaint with them over the past couple of weeks. The main difference would seem to be that I called them directly and asked the phone lady to speak with George about my complaint.
I had all my money back to me within 10 minutes and another booking sorted out with another one of their girls.

Just saying that there are ways and means in which to raise a complaint.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2015, 11:57:38 am by FLYING BLUE »

Online FLYING BLUE

Bet the pimp takes it down when your not looking.

I will be checking :D

Offline AnthG

I also had a complaint with them over the past couple of weeks. The main difference would seem to be that I called them directly and asked the phone lady to speak with George about my complaint.
I had all my money back to me within 10 minutes and another booking sorted out with another one of their girls.

In my case. The girl in question phoned them repeatedly, they ignored her (or at least this is what she was telling me).

I however emailed them, and I emailed them so much I felt like I could even be put on a restraining order for it as I was sending so many. And they ignored it each and every time.

Well all except I got this one response saying

Quote
Hi Anth
Really sorry for the late reply. George is still away and won't be back
till Sunday. He sends his apologies and will deal with as soon as he can.
He needs to speak to Zara first so depends when her next shift is. Didn't
want to reply till I spoke to George.

Regards
Diamonds

I waited, waited and waited. And got no response, ever.
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Offline Third Man

AnthG

For goodness sake - let this go - IMHO you are starting to sound like a broken record....whether it's Diamonds, Allure, Amour or anybody else for that matter - if you don't like it, either run the business yourself or don't go anymore. You seen determined to turn every post into an argument.

You are, of course, entitled to post whatever you like (within the rules) but I get the impression that no matter what happens, you are going to find some sort of negative response to throw back & the thread drags on and on ad infinitum. :unknown:

If I thought that it was possible, by any stretch of the imagination, to pocket £5K of profit every day by running an agency, £1.83M per year, I would quit my day job tomorrow :rolleyes:
FB
Anth i tend to agree with FB. You are a helpful guy and i know you mean well but everything ends up in a fight. On another forum too you had the girls raging over something simple. This forum has a big voice so its best to use it not simply as a place to moan on and on seemingly for the sake of it


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why don't Diamonds  just give Anth a free bunk up with one of their lasses to bring this saga to an end

TJ2015

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I'm fairly new around here so I don't know the characters involved but this subject seems to have dominated my time here

The gist seems to be that THREE MONTHS ago AnthG had a nightmare punt and isn't able to put it to rest

Sadly most of us who have punted long enough will have had a nightmare punt, while its annoying and frustrating it happens

Anth given that we can't turn back the clock to before your punt and you can't decide to give it a miss what actually do you want

What can anyone do to stop this thread rolling on for another three months?

greychap

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If you want to pm me for flat charges feel free, but I'd rather not post it on the board - I will say we pay the same for all of them.

I think 15 minutes is a perfectly reasonable amount of time to get showered and ready. If girls want longer, they have longer. I've sometimes requested an extra 15 mins if it's been needed and diamonds are fine with this. Apologies if I offend, but to say we should give free time because it's good customer service is in my opinion, ridiculous.

As I say, 4 is around average for me. But that may be for example, 3 one after the other then one at the end of my shift, but our jobs aren't staggered evenly and we often get very short notice bookings. Also as I say it's an average, some days I may have 10 jobs, some days none.

I hope this clears up some of your questions Anth. X

Yes this is what I expected from what I have been told, you have to see a lot of punters just to Clear £150, like I said not all girls in this industry make a fortune and some days you wont get any bookings and before anyone one says better money then working in a supermarket it cannot ever be compared.

Holly you have been very honest basically telling punters what you earn and have to pay out which you did not need to do but when you come on the forum your fair game with all the questions you will get asked.

greychap

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AnthG

For goodness sake - let this go - IMHO you are starting to sound like a broken record....whether it's Diamonds, Allure, Amour or anybody else for that matter - if you don't like it, either run the business yourself or don't go anymore. You seen determined to turn every post into an argument.

You are, of course, entitled to post whatever you like (within the rules) but I get the impression that no matter what happens, you are going to find some sort of negative response to throw back & the thread drags on and on ad infinitum. :unknown:

If I thought that it was possible, by any stretch of the imagination, to pocket £5K of profit every day by running an agency, £1.83M per year, I would quit my day job tomorrow :rolleyes:
FB

Anth is very passionate and has many ideas of how the agencies should be run but we all know perfection we will never get you don't even get that in the non adult industries.

Diamonds we know there not the best at organising things but they have come on here and started to improve some things but there never get it right in everybody's view and I think the only reason Diamonds get highlighted more then other agencies is they don't try and stop punters coming on here and posting negative things with a bribe like at least another agency does.

Everybody has a choice use them or don't use them, we all know how it is run so we like it or lump it, but saying that to do with incalls I can imagine not every situation is Diamonds direct fault they will also be dealing with unreliable girls, that start bookings late or don't show up, punters turning up early or late or not turning up at all.

greychap

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why don't Diamonds  just give Anth a free bunk up with one of their lasses to bring this saga to an end

I get the impression maybe they don't want Anth back using them because they know all the negatives points will be on here again.

But no doubt he was a good regular for a long time with them.

Offline AnthG

Diamonds get highlighted more then other agencies is they don't try and stop punters coming on here and posting negative things with a bribe like at least another agency does.

I have had two free punts with Diamonds when they have messed up. Just like I have had two free punts with Amour.

The difference is, Diamonds say "don't tell nobody we've gave you this". Whereas Amour say "tell whoever you like".

You can argue one is more dodgy than the other depending on how you think it. As Amour use the free punts clearly as kind of advertisement of assurance of 'don't worry if its bad, you will get a free punt'. Diamonds more so "hush-hush don't tell nobody we did this as everyone will want one".

I learned some time back with agencies to not be afraid to complain to them when I have a bad punt. On the flip-side I gave Diamonds a lot of good PR. My positive review of Vicky from Diamonds saying its the best punt of my life has got 25,000 views which is good PR for Diamonds. As I can bet quite safely a few people from that 25,000 reading the forum said "Diamonds gave him the best punt of his life. Better check them out for my first punt"

Like many of the forum say, agency owners (or as its put by people 'pimps') often cannot see the wood from the trees. In that they think putting right one issue will be too much hassle or a tiny bit of cost to them. So they think shove it, who cares if he never books with us again. But the thing is that person will give them a lot of good PR as a result of them putting it right which is worth a lot more in the long run.
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greychap

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I have had two free punts with Diamonds when they have messed up. Just like I have had two free punts with Amour.

The difference is, Diamonds say "don't tell nobody we've gave you this". Whereas Amour say "tell whoever you like".

You can argue one is more dodgy than the other depending on how you think it. As Amour use the free punts clearly as kind of advertisement of assurance of 'don't worry if its bad, you will get a free punt'. Diamonds more so "hush-hush don't tell nobody we did this as everyone will want one".

I learned some time back with agencies to not be afraid to complain to them when I have a bad punt. On the flip-side I gave Diamonds a lot of good PR. My positive review of Vicky from Diamonds saying its the best punt of my life has got 25,000 views which is good PR for Diamonds. As I can bet quite safely a few people from that 25,000 reading the forum said "Diamonds gave him the best punt of his life. Better check them out for my first punt"

Like many of the forum say, agency owners (or as its put by people 'pimps') often cannot see the wood from the trees. In that they think putting right one issue will be too much hassle or a tiny bit of cost to them. So they think shove it, who cares if he never books with us again. But the thing is that person will give them a lot of good PR as a result of them putting it right which is worth a lot more in the long run.

Yes I get that Diamonds have given you a couple of free punts but don't want it shouted from the roof tops as more people will ask for one especially as lots of cock ups lately.

But Amour want everybody to know especially on here so they go straight to her instead of writing a negative as most punters probably will feel bad doing a negative after getting a freebie so can see why she does this it benefits her more by giving the odd freebie.

TJ2015

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I have had two free punts with Diamonds when they have messed up. Just like I have had two free punts with Amour.

The difference is, Diamonds say "don't tell nobody we've gave you this". Whereas Amour say "tell whoever you like".

You can argue one is more dodgy than the other depending on how you think it. As Amour use the free punts clearly as kind of advertisement of assurance of 'don't worry if its bad, you will get a free punt'. Diamonds more so "hush-hush don't tell nobody we did this as everyone will want one".

I learned some time back with agencies to not be afraid to complain to them when I have a bad punt. On the flip-side I gave Diamonds a lot of good PR. My positive review of Vicky from Diamonds saying its the best punt of my life has got 25,000 views which is good PR for Diamonds. As I can bet quite safely a few people from that 25,000 reading the forum said "Diamonds gave him the best punt of his life. Better check them out for my first punt"

Like many of the forum say, agency owners (or as its put by people 'pimps') often cannot see the wood from the trees. In that they think putting right one issue will be too much hassle or a tiny bit of cost to them. So they think shove it, who cares if he never books with us again. But the thing is that person will give them a lot of good PR as a result of them putting it right which is worth a lot more in the long run.

Anth G - I'm still not sure what any one can do to resolve the problem, what DO YOU WANT, I'm assuming neither of your free punts from Diamonds was as compensation for the 'nightmare' punt at the heart of all this

Of course no one should be afraid of complaining when they get bad service, it doesn't matter whether it's a bad punt or a dodgy sandwich from M&S and everyone has the right to their complaint being taken seriously and investigated thoroughly

While your statement about Diamonds giving you the best punt ever will, no doubt, make people look at Diamonds I doubt whether many people will use that one review to make a choice. I might read THAT review I'd also read a lot more including the less enthusiastic ones before making my mind up

So while that one review is certainly good PR it has to be balanced against all negative comments made against Diamonds, your one glowing review isn't the road to the promised land nor should it be




Offline Xemit

Well, seems like my thanking Diamonds for adding monday and tuesday to the calendar was premature. Didn't even show those days until late in the week and as of mid-saturday afternoon there are no working hours up so it's useless :thumbsdown:

themademan2

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Hi guys

A few answers to a few question I hope.

The calendar now shows Monday and Tuesday. We promised we would try and do something and we have.

Thanks for the feedback on the flats. We are trying to improve things and work will start shortly on a couple of others.

Anthg made a point about Romanian girls, we appreciate the education but don't see how it is relevant as we only have 4 girls we represent that are not originally from the UK.(as far as we are aware) so I don't see how the point is relevant. So no other agentcies represent girls origianlly from other countries. Okay we will agree to disagree on that one.

We stated right from the start on here if you need to get hold of us please email or call the office as this site is checked sporadically. So sorry if it's seems we give a speech and fuck off!

Again I will say that we will look at suggestions you make and try and implement changes in accordance with what you guys want, not everything will be possible but we will try our best.

I get some people will never be happy with us, other agencies with hidden profiles, clients preferring other agencies etc etc. all we can do is do our best and try and give people a great service going forward. I know people have had bad experiences but please don't just get on our back for the sake of it.

I hope that answers e majority of your questions. Please let us know if there is anything else.

Happy punting.

X
I can smell a banning order coming for diamonds on the forum for taking a black listed escort on with eyes wide open about her history

greychap

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I can smell a banning order coming for diamonds on the forum for taking a black listed escort on with eyes wide open about her history

She down as outcalls too how bad is that having some unsuspecting pun :crazy:ter have her visit his home

Offline johnny34


I get some people will never be happy with us, all we can do is do our best and try and give people a great service going forward. I know people have had bad experiences but please don't just get on our back for the sake of it.

Please let us know if there is anything else.


If your best is to bring in Logan Montoya you have no idea what your doing  :scare:

Offline AnthG

If your best is to bring in Logan Montoya you have no idea what your doing  :scare:

Agree.

If they are going to up their prices to £130 per hour. They could have with this, went to any girl on Amour or Allure books and tried to tempt them over to them with that higher rate for those girls that didn't like Amour/Allure's enforced £100 per hour rates.

Why then scrape the bottom of the barrel and get Amelia Horn.
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themademan2

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Agree.

If they are going to up their prices to £130 per hour. They could have with this, went to any girl on Amour or Allure books and tried to tempt them over to them with that higher rate for those girls that didn't like Amour/Allure's enforced £100 per hour rates.

Why then scrape the bottom of the barrel and get Amelia Horn.
Message they are sending diamonds girls ...

Hi hope you're all well. We are looking to change the rates you charge. We are now open for you to pick your own rates. Please send in if you require your rates changing on the website.  The commission will stay the same £15 for half £30 hour. Please advise if this is something you would like to do. X

Offline AnthG

Message they are sending diamonds girls ...

Hi hope you're all well. We are looking to change the rates you charge. We are now open for you to pick your own rates. Please send in if you require your rates changing on the website.  The commission will stay the same £15 for half £30 hour. Please advise if this is something you would like to do. X

Do you mean that genuinely and one of the girls has forwarded this to you. or is that said just sarcastically?
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themademan2

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Do you mean that genuinely and one of the girls has forwarded this to you. or is that said just sarcastically?
Genuine text


themademan2

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Do you mean that genuinely and one of the girls has forwarded this to you. or is that said just sarcastically?

Diamonds of Newcastle allow the ladies represented to set their own rates, each lady has her own rates shown clearly on her profile page.
If you would like to book a duo appointment then simply add the prices together from their respective profiles.
For outcall appointments outside of a certain distance from the chosen escorts location, additional travel costs may be applicable.
If you would like to make a booking for a length of time that is not quoted on our site then please contact us on 07548 810 975.

Lifted straight of diamonds rate page

Offline PlasticGeordie

Unbelievable. Amour and Allure must be dancing in the streets.

Offline Highlander

Unbelievable...

Massive error in hiring a convicted blackmailer widely known to disdain her clients.

Error compounded by effectively increasing rates when they need to be competitive with Allure and Amour etc...

RIP Diamonds  :dash:

greychap

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Well least we know the price structure aint a kick in the teeth for the rest of the girls on the books with the blackmailer being above them. So there is choices for them too.

Punters will never be over the moon with any increase but saying that they have had a lot of unhappy girls working at Diamonds not happy with the money from each job after fees so it looks like they are doing something for the girls that benefit the girls especially if there keeping there cut the same.

That will keep some girls there and attract more to join if they can earn more then the rivals so maybe for once they are listening to the girls...possibly????

They do need to listen to the punters though with this Logan/Amelia thing as this is a step too far.

Offline portable

Diamonds truly are taking the piss now.

This is the second time they've posted something along the lines of "We'll answer questions", but then clammed up despite being online, reading this and the Logan thread.

 :bomb:






greychap

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Diamonds truly are taking the piss now.

This is the second time they've posted something along the lines of "We'll answer questions", but then clammed up despite being online, reading this and the Logan thread.

 :bomb:

How could they possibly answer on here to why the low life is working there, it would be like Armageddon on here with them answering everyones concerns and anger regarding it plus the price increase they would be  jumping to there own deaths :lol: :scare:

themademan2

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Diamonds truly are taking the piss now.

This is the second time they've posted something along the lines of "We'll answer questions", but then clammed up despite being online, reading this and the Logan thread.

 :bomb:
Well they logged into forum in last couple of hours but not comment  :unknown:

vw

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Well they logged into forum in last couple of hours but not comment  :unknown:
Maybe its not right to announce her going before telling her !  Just a thought !

greychap

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Maybe its not right to announce her going before telling her !  Just a thought !

If the bookings go down a lot because of her they will bin her, she is down as working tonight wonder if she has been round any punters houses yet :scare:

OldAdmin

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Think a warning notice against the agency on the whole of the UKP North East section is warranted. To be done later.

greychap

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Think a warning notice against the agency on the whole of the UKP North East section is warranted. To be done later.

That is fair enough others have confirmed that Diamonds know and are promoting her as being familiar with "punters" so no excuses for this one really.

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Hi guys

I think we better put our side across.

Since taking over this agency and researching the escorting scene a couple of things have stood out.

1. Girls are 'told' what to charge, or let's say it's a case of 'these are our rates so crack on'

2. Some agencies have taken the approach of not listening to their clients(some would say what we have done here but please let me explain)

Point one. Why should any girl in this industry not be allowed to chose her own rates? We encourage girls to have total flexibility with their work. Yes it's not ideal for the client as the prices may go up for certain girls, but I know what it's like to be working and having the feeling of not being paid enough.

Our intention is to bring together independents, others girls from other agencies and even girls on tour. Something that doesn't happen due to the fixed low prices of many agencies. Would you guys like to see more touring girls?

As for the text that was forward to a member on here, that is the actual text we sent out. So that should show we have not changed this for more money. It's for the girls benefit.

Point 2. Let me start by saying there's some great guys on this forum, many of which are loyal customer, many of whom don't post so much on here. However it would be refreshing to see some positive things about agencies in general. (Not just ourselves)

We came on here and said things will be changing, some flats need work, communication needed improving, a calendar that showed the early part of the following week would be good, etc.


None of the above has ever been mentioned as a positive change that we have made. One of the flats has been refurbished throughout. (More will follow in time). The website has had changes like individual rates on each girl, a calendar instead of clicking availability on each profile, a search function that allows clients to search by hair colour or nationality, pictures that can be enlarged(bigger pictures will be put up in time), the communication has been improved through better systems in the office. Plus many others things.

We will say again we intend to listen to clients when they ask us to do something. Not always will it be possible but we will always try.

Right the big one...Logan.

We have thought long and hard about Logan, We know she is banned on here, we know she has been convicted of some very unpleasant things. But should she carry this forever? She deeply regrets what she did and will admit it was an error of judgment.

From an agency point of view we felt that she deserved a chance. I know people's concerns are this being a discrete business and what happens if she does it again, but that's why we agreed to represent her. We take the calls, we book the appointments she doesn't have access to anyone's number or details. Surely that's safer for the client.

She simply wants to work and not be involved in any trouble. We have all made mistakes in the past, some small and in this case large, but should we be given a second chance?

There guys on here that have seen her and have been more than happy in fact I'm not sure who it was but recently someone had posted up to say the booking was fine.

I know this decision is one of the most controversial on the north east punting scene at the moment but we felt that what Logan has to offer clients is worth a shot.

I have gone on quite a bit there but I've tried to get across our feelings and the thought process behind them.

If anyone would like to discuss anything further please feel free to call the office or email.

We intend offering you guys a mouth watering selection of ladies, from the current ones we represent to new ones that are starting all the time.

One thing is for sure we will keep trying to do our best.

Thanks

X


vw

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Hi guys

I think we better put our side across.

Since taking over this agency and researching the escorting scene a couple of things have stood out.

1. Girls are 'told' what to charge, or let's say it's a case of 'these are our rates so crack on'

2. Some agencies have taken the approach of not listening to their clients(some would say what we have done here but please let me explain)

Point one. Why should any girl in this industry not be allowed to chose her own rates? We encourage girls to have total flexibility with their work. Yes it's not ideal for the client as the prices may go up for certain girls, but I know what it's like to be working and having the feeling of not being paid enough.

Our intention is to bring together independents, others girls from other agencies and even girls on tour. Something that doesn't happen due to the fixed low prices of many agencies. Would you guys like to see more touring girls?

As for the text that was forward to a member on here, that is the actual text we sent out. So that should show we have not changed this for more money. It's for the girls benefit.

Point 2. Let me start by saying there's some great guys on this forum, many of which are loyal customer, many of whom don't post so much on here. However it would be refreshing to see some positive things about agencies in general. (Not just ourselves)

We came on here and said things will be changing, some flats need work, communication needed improving, a calendar that showed the early part of the following week would be good, etc.


None of the above has ever been mentioned as a positive change that we have made. One of the flats has been refurbished throughout. (More will follow in time). The website has had changes like individual rates on each girl, a calendar instead of clicking availability on each profile, a search function that allows clients to search by hair colour or nationality, pictures that can be enlarged(bigger pictures will be put up in time), the communication has been improved through better systems in the office. Plus many others things.

We will say again we intend to listen to clients when they ask us to do something. Not always will it be possible but we will always try.

Right the big one...Logan.

We have thought long and hard about Logan, We know she is banned on here, we know she has been convicted of some very unpleasant things. But should she carry this forever? She deeply regrets what she did and will admit it was an error of judgment.

From an agency point of view we felt that she deserved a chance. I know people's concerns are this being a discrete business and what happens if she does it again, but that's why we agreed to represent her. We take the calls, we book the appointments she doesn't have access to anyone's number or details. Surely that's safer for the client.

She simply wants to work and not be involved in any trouble. We have all made mistakes in the past, some small and in this case large, but should we be given a second chance?

There guys on here that have seen her and have been more than happy in fact I'm not sure who it was but recently someone had posted up to say the booking was fine.

I know this decision is one of the most controversial on the north east punting scene at the moment but we felt that what Logan has to offer clients is worth a shot.

I have gone on quite a bit there but I've tried to get across our feelings and the thought process behind them.

If anyone would like to discuss anything further please feel free to call the office or email.

We intend offering you guys a mouth watering selection of ladies, from the current ones we represent to new ones that are starting all the time.

One thing is for sure we will keep trying to do our best.

Thanks

X
On that logic why not let a paedo look after your kids !  She has not completed her sentence, will the probation service be all over you, wise wise people.  Judgement seems lacking !

yorkshire123

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Right the big one...Logan.

We have thought long and hard about Logan, We know she is banned on here, we know she has been convicted of some very unpleasant things. But should she carry this forever? She deeply regrets what she did and will admit it was an error of judgment.


Spoken like a true money grabbing pimp.......

She deeply regrets getting caught don't you mean?

I will quote the paper again.....

Quote
At one point, 31-year-old Burton threatened one of the victims with a newspaper expose, claiming he had photographs of him and Horn having sex.

The pair - helped by Burton's ex-girlfriend Loretta Isaac - extracted £16,500 from the men because they were terrified their families would find out.

Police later recovered footage of the three celebrating after the first victim transferred £10,000 into Horn's account.

They were seen on film hugging each other before 24-year-old Isaac put her face up to the camera and yelled: "Blackmail, blackmail."

greychap

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Hi guys

I think we better put our side across.

Since taking over this agency and researching the escorting scene a couple of things have stood out.

1. Girls are 'told' what to charge, or let's say it's a case of 'these are our rates so crack on'

2. Some agencies have taken the approach of not listening to their clients(some would say what we have done here but please let me explain)

Point one. Why should any girl in this industry not be allowed to chose her own rates? We encourage girls to have total flexibility with their work. Yes it's not ideal for the client as the prices may go up for certain girls, but I know what it's like to be working and having the feeling of not being paid enough.

Our intention is to bring together independents, others girls from other agencies and even girls on tour. Something that doesn't happen due to the fixed low prices of many agencies. Would you guys like to see more touring girls?

As for the text that was forward to a member on here, that is the actual text we sent out. So that should show we have not changed this for more money. It's for the girls benefit.

Point 2. Let me start by saying there's some great guys on this forum, many of which are loyal customer, many of whom don't post so much on here. However it would be refreshing to see some positive things about agencies in general. (Not just ourselves)

We came on here and said things will be changing, some flats need work, communication needed improving, a calendar that showed the early part of the following week would be good, etc.


None of the above has ever been mentioned as a positive change that we have made. One of the flats has been refurbished throughout. (More will follow in time). The website has had changes like individual rates on each girl, a calendar instead of clicking availability on each profile, a search function that allows clients to search by hair colour or nationality, pictures that can be enlarged(bigger pictures will be put up in time), the communication has been improved through better systems in the office. Plus many others things.

We will say again we intend to listen to clients when they ask us to do something. Not always will it be possible but we will always try.

Right the big one...Logan.

We have thought long and hard about Logan, We know she is banned on here, we know she has been convicted of some very unpleasant things. But should she carry this forever? She deeply regrets what she did and will admit it was an error of judgment.

From an agency point of view we felt that she deserved a chance. I know people's concerns are this being a discrete business and what happens if she does it again, but that's why we agreed to represent her. We take the calls, we book the appointments she doesn't have access to anyone's number or details. Surely that's safer for the client.

She simply wants to work and not be involved in any trouble. We have all made mistakes in the past, some small and in this case large, but should we be given a second chance?

There guys on here that have seen her and have been more than happy in fact I'm not sure who it was but recently someone had posted up to say the booking was fine.

I know this decision is one of the most controversial on the north east punting scene at the moment but we felt that what Logan has to offer clients is worth a shot.

I have gone on quite a bit there but I've tried to get across our feelings and the thought process behind them.

If anyone would like to discuss anything further please feel free to call the office or email.

We intend offering you guys a mouth watering selection of ladies, from the current ones we represent to new ones that are starting all the time.

One thing is for sure we will keep trying to do our best.

Thanks

X

Actually glad you have been able to finally post.


I agree with your way of thinking that is girls are self employed why are they told what they have to charge and admire the fact that decision is for the girls and not for you to make more comms...so that is a brave move as you know some punters wont be happy with girls controlling there own price but as I have punted all over and used to all different prices that don't bother me.

On to logan I don't think you have made the right choice taking her on as the crime was too serious in my opinion and no offence but she would say she is sorry she wants work and no doubt she aint been getting enough money so needs to say she regrets it.

But I will say least your honest about why you have decided to do it rather then coming on here treating us like fools and pretending you did not know who she was like what naught northern did and at least you don't try to rubbish or set up rival agencies like your competitors do.

But I have to say it I still think its a bad decision to take her on and especially if she does any outcalls its just too much of a risk.

vw

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Actually glad you have been able to finally post.


I agree with your way of thinking that is girls are self employed why are they told what they have to charge and admire the fact that decision is for the girls and not for you to make more comms...so that is a brave move as you know some punters wont be happy with girls controlling there own price but as I have punted all over and used to all different prices that don't bother me.

On to logan I don't think you have made the right choice taking her on as the crime was too serious in my opinion and no offence but she would say she is sorry she wants work and no doubt she aint been getting enough money so needs to say she regrets it.

But I will say least your honest about why you have decided to do it rather then coming on here treating us like fools and pretending you did not know who she was like what naught northern did and at least you don't try to rubbish or set up rival agencies like your competitors do.

But I have to say it I still think its a bad decision to take her on and especially if she does any outcalls its just too much of a risk.
Your to nice greychap this is an example of a pimp disrespecting its customers past and future and putting them in harms way. and as for the other ladies their good name is now associated with the lowest of the low.

greychap

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Hi guys

I think we better put our side across.

Since taking over this agency and researching the escorting scene a couple of things have stood out.

1. Girls are 'told' what to charge, or let's say it's a case of 'these are our rates so crack on'

2. Some agencies have taken the approach of not listening to their clients(some would say what we have done here but please let me explain)

Point one. Why should any girl in this industry not be allowed to chose her own rates? We encourage girls to have total flexibility with their work. Yes it's not ideal for the client as the prices may go up for certain girls, but I know what it's like to be working and having the feeling of not being paid enough.

Our intention is to bring together independents, others girls from other agencies and even girls on tour. Something that doesn't happen due to the fixed low prices of many agencies. Would you guys like to see more touring girls?

As for the text that was forward to a member on here, that is the actual text we sent out. So that should show we have not changed this for more money. It's for the girls benefit.

Point 2. Let me start by saying there's some great guys on this forum, many of which are loyal customer, many of whom don't post so much on here. However it would be refreshing to see some positive things about agencies in general. (Not just ourselves)

We came on here and said things will be changing, some flats need work, communication needed improving, a calendar that showed the early part of the following week would be good, etc.


None of the above has ever been mentioned as a positive change that we have made. One of the flats has been refurbished throughout. (More will follow in time). The website has had changes like individual rates on each girl, a calendar instead of clicking availability on each profile, a search function that allows clients to search by hair colour or nationality, pictures that can be enlarged(bigger pictures will be put up in time), the communication has been improved through better systems in the office. Plus many others things.

We will say again we intend to listen to clients when they ask us to do something. Not always will it be possible but we will always try.

Right the big one...Logan.

We have thought long and hard about Logan, We know she is banned on here, we know she has been convicted of some very unpleasant things. But should she carry this forever? She deeply regrets what she did and will admit it was an error of judgment.

From an agency point of view we felt that she deserved a chance. I know people's concerns are this being a discrete business and what happens if she does it again, but that's why we agreed to represent her. We take the calls, we book the appointments she doesn't have access to anyone's number or details. Surely that's safer for the client.

She simply wants to work and not be involved in any trouble. We have all made mistakes in the past, some small and in this case large, but should we be given a second chance?

There guys on here that have seen her and have been more than happy in fact I'm not sure who it was but recently someone had posted up to say the booking was fine.

I know this decision is one of the most controversial on the north east punting scene at the moment but we felt that what Logan has to offer clients is worth a shot.

I have gone on quite a bit there but I've tried to get across our feelings and the thought process behind them.

If anyone would like to discuss anything further please feel free to call the office or email.

We intend offering you guys a mouth watering selection of ladies, from the current ones we represent to new ones that are starting all the time.

One thing is for sure we will keep trying to do our best.

Thanks

X


Also another girl that had worked at Diamonds previously discussed Kim Dominick who set up girls to be robbed at the flats would you too give her a second chance if she wanted to come back?

DiamondsNew

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Greychap thanks very much it's nice to have a straightforward opinion not one thats heavily weighted against us! :)

Time will tell with Logan she is under no illusion that if things don't work out, changes will be made. We all agreed to put her actual pictures up and original name, hiding nothing. Like you have said it is a huge gamble but something that can be rectified very quickly if need be.

The rates where another tricky decision, get it wrong and clients are left disappointed and let down get it right and we get a happy bunch of ladies that feel valued and move from agencies where they feel bullied and unhappy.

One thing we will do is try different things. Some things won't work but some will. At the end of the day we won't please everyone with everything, but as long as the experience keeps getting better we feel we would have done a good job.

Thanks

X

greychap

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Your to nice greychap this is an example of a pimp disrespecting its customers past and future and putting them in harms way. and as for the other ladies their good name is now associated with the lowest of the low.

I tried to talk to them in a manner that they might respond to rather then going in all guns blazing but wether there honest about it or not its still wrong in my opinion to take someone on like this that did something so bad, I would never trust that girl ever, she just gave them a load of dribble how she was in with the wrong crowd and regrets it so much...why take the risk even if they believe her they have enough girls on the books they don't need her :dash: :scare:

DiamondsNew

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Virtualwaster

I see the term 'pimp' used a lot on this forum and i question whether it's the right term?

As we have now proven we represent the girl, we don't force them into doing things they don't want to do. Personally I see a pimp as the latter.

Your entitled to your opinion I was just interested in your definition?

Thanks

X

vw

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I tried to talk to them in a manner that they might respond to rather then going in all guns blazing but wether there honest about it or not its still wrong in my opinion to take someone on like this that did something so bad, I would never trust that girl ever, she just gave them a load of dribble how she was in with the wrong crowd and regrets it so much...why take the risk even if they believe her they have enough girls on the books they don't need her :dash: :scare:
Its a shame people get off easy with probation, don't they usually put a tag and curfew on scum who are still serving their sentence.  With a bit of luck she will get a recall for breach of bail.

vw

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Virtualwaster

I see the term 'pimp' used a lot on this forum and i question whether it's the right term?

As we have now proven we represent the girl, we don't force them into doing things they don't want to do. Personally I see a pimp as the latter.

Your entitled to your opinion I was just interested in your definition?

Thanks

X
A pimp who profits from others selling their body, delusions are not pretty.  99% of people here would agree. there are independents and pimped prostitutes nothing else no sugar coated fairies.

greychap

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Greychap thanks very much it's nice to have a straightforward opinion not one thats heavily weighted against us! :)

Time will tell with Logan she is under no illusion that if things don't work out, changes will be made. We all agreed to put her actual pictures up and original name, hiding nothing. Like you have said it is a huge gamble but something that can be rectified very quickly if need be.

The rates where another tricky decision, get it wrong and clients are left disappointed and let down get it right and we get a happy bunch of ladies that feel valued and move from agencies where they feel bullied and unhappy.

One thing we will do is try different things. Some things won't work but some will. At the end of the day we won't please everyone with everything, but as long as the experience keeps getting better we feel we would have done a good job.

Thanks

X

We wont agree about you giving this Logan another chance and I have to say I wont use you unless she is gone but your agency your choice.

But the one thing you have done right is not lie and cover it up to save your own bacon like Amour and NNE have done so  your more upfront then them but  its your agency to do with what ever you like even if that means losing punters.

vw

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Personally I see a pimp as the latter.
the latter would be called a slave owner !

DiamondsNew

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Okay. I see your point. You're entitled to your opinion I think we'll agree to disagree on that one. We could be on all night about the specific details of what an agency does and doesn't.

In your eyes then is a recruitment agency classed as a pimp? Same thing really apart from companionship and sex?


greychap

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A pimp who profits from others selling their body, delusions are not pretty.  99% of people here would agree. there are independents and pimped prostitutes nothing else no sugar coated fairies.

The agencies/pimps say they don't sell the girls on sex and up to them wether they do sexual stuff or not but lets be honest if a girl joins and does not want to do sex or certain things or chooses which ones she might do it with, if the agency is getting no repeat business and complaints the girls arse would be fired straight away so yes that is a pimp because the girls have to do sex to work there.....