Author Topic: Vivastreet ' New Girl In Town' Wolverhampton THE WORST SIDE OF THIS BUSINESS  (Read 5920 times)

Offline Placebo88

I DID NOT KNOW WHETHER TO POST THIS AS A REVIEW OR IN THE DISCUSSION FORUM AS IT IS A COMBINATION OF BOTH AS A LOT OF THE COMMENTS ARE GENERALIZATIONS ( HENCE THE SUBJECT TITLE NEW GIRL IN TOWN ) , THIS GIRL BEING AN EXAMPLE OF A TYPE.IT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE QUITE BORING SO IF YOU CHOOSE TO READ ON YOU HAVE BEEN FOREWARNED.
 

This review is of a booking from last December.This girl's profile disappeared from The West Midlands area prior to my joining UKP and has only recently reappeared allowing me to post with a link.

I do not know if it applies nationwide but in our area Vivastreet advertisements almost all begin with NEW GIRL IN TOWN and have the most nonsensical profile descriptions ; every girl possesses every possible virtue and will give you the best experience of your life!It reads like some moron has copied out a few thesaurus entries combined with erotica's most overused cliches.Nothing useful regarding actual services is usually given and the site has no review system.Clearly written by a pimp and very unlikely the girls even know what is written about them.

Also they are almost all foreign ; favourites being Spain and Italy ; quite probably actually Romanian.Vivastreet seems to be a sink hole for these types ; prostituted women in the worst sense of the term as differentiated from the modern ' escort ' who has control and say in her own business.Trafficked , pimped and shipped from town to town ; always new girl in town because the service is so bad no-one would pay a return visit.

Since finding Adultwork I have only browsed Vivastreet from time to time but never made a booking due to the risks.It does rile me how punters are being conned in this way and how I perceive the girls are being abused.

Now to the review which is of the worst one of the Vivastreet bookings I had.

ALESSIA

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CHOICE AND COMMUNICATIONS

The girl in the profile photos looked very pretty with a nice petite figure and the profile seemed fairly well written and commented on how important good hygiene was to her.I did not believe all of the nonsense about wanting to see ' educated gentleman ' and all that but it sounded promising.( the current written description is different and adds a thousand more claims , all also untrue ).
  Phoned up and got response first time ; the girl herself answered but it was clear she had very little understanding of English and , presumably after a prompt from someone , said ' text me ' and hung up.I then exchanged a few texts with her ( pimp ) to arrange a booking in an hours time.
  On the street , texted for the number ; am told don't park in front of the house, then knock very quietly on the door.Also very reluctant to give house number ; kept asking where am I.All very suspicious and I should just have left but I thought I should honour the booking.

LOCATION

I do not think she is in the same location now but it was not a great area of the town she was in when I visited.
  The room the appointment took place in was a ground floor front room with thick closed curtains.It was well heated and fit for purpose.
There is a massive but coming.From the backroom I could clearly hear two men, who sounded like locals, talking together.They were clearly making no attempt to lower their voices and I had no idea what their link was to what was happening in the front room or if they even knew.The girl putting her finger to her lips to be quiet whilst entering the house added to my confusion on this matter ; was her pimp hiring out just the front room or what ? Furthermore the room had no lock on the door!

APPEARANCE AND BODY

Surprisingly it actually is the girl from the photos and the photos are not at all tampered with.She looked young and had a very pretty face and tiny, slim figure.
  When her clothes came off there were a few clear signs that she has had at least one child.It is very clear why she wears a bra in all of the photos and she was a bit saggy around the lower abdomen.

THE MEET INCLUDING  ATTITUDE

Once inside the room the first thing Alessia did ( after reaching out and saying ' money ' and then briefly disappearing ) was to pick up a condom from the dresser and put it on the bed.Bearing in mind the profile description was all about being the perfect girlfriend and I had booked an hour this was a clear indicator that her expectations and mine were poles apart.
  I wanted to go slower and so asked ( by gesture ) for her to stand and then tried to gently hug her; she put both arms in front of her body between us in a protective gesture.I already knew this was going to be bad but thought that as I had paid I would see , almost as an experiment , what could be salvaged from it.
  Next the excuses began.When I touched her arm she recoiled due to my cold hand.It being December my hands were cold but her reaction was excessive.Like a mug I spent the next five minutes moving between the radiator and her arm with my gradually warming hands.She then stood there like a statue not even looking at me.As she was showing no signs of taking any action I managed to communicate to her to take off her lingerie and then lie on the bed.After about a minute's body stroking which she showed no response to I ventured further south to which she held my arm and said ' no ' whilst shaking her head.When I had briefly touched her she was bone dry so I suggested using the lube which was on the side but I don't think she understood.I had not tried to insert a finger or anything ; just gently touch.She then held her throat suggesting she was ill and unfit to do anything ; why take the booking then?
  We seemed to have reached an impasse.She was just lying there looking at the wall with me sitting next to her.I was quite confused by this bizarre situation ; being new to punting at the time ; it was almost surreal.I decided to start from the beginning with her and asked if she actually knew why I was there and what she thought I had handed her £80 for ? Again she could not understand ( or pretended not to ) and in the circumstances I had no desire to do much with her anyway.She showed no signs of affection at all and never made any move to touch me ; she did her best not to look at me even!
  I decided to settle for a little talk and maybe friendliness so that at least there could be something positive but her English was virtually no existent.her vocabulary could not have exceeded 20 words ; all related to giving a bad service!At the time the profile stated she was Italian but I got a blank response to both the words Italy and Italia.The comment about ' educated gentlemen ' seemed even more ludicrous ; it was clear that she was not exactly an intellectual herself , even if communication could have been in her native tongue , whatever that may be.
  I then had the idea that she could play with herself if I was not allowed to but all she did was move her hand very slowly and not even in the right place whilst looking at the wall and chewing gum ( which she had done the entire time).I would have preferred to watch paint dry ; she made absolutely no pretence to be interest in , let alone enjoying it.During this she reached for her phone and said ' time up '.I checked my watch and it was only 25 minutes.On principle I was not leaving this early even though I was not enjoying it at all.I explained I had paid for an hour and she went into another room ; not sure if it was to the men I had heard talking earlier or not.She shortly came back with £20 saying that £60 was her half hour fee and that she had an outcall she had to go to now.I was half hoping she would bring her pimp or whoever out as I wanted a few answers from them but in hindsight it is probably best that this did not happen as no good would have come of it and I did not want to get her into trouble with them.
  I philosophically decided to cut my loses and leave but felt very uneasy about Alessia's situation.I very quietly asked her if she was sad and when I pulled a sad face she smiled ; maybe thinking I was mocking her ; the first time she had and that was the only highlight for me.
  All in all a depressing experience although I couldn't help but chuckle at the complete contrast between the profile description and  actuality of her personality when I re-read it ; it reminded me of the classic line from ' The Undateables ' TV show ; ' you've got a very bubbly personality ' - anyone remember that one ?

FURTHER THOUGHTS

This experience , more so than other bad Vivastreet punts ( inaccurate photos ,poor service etc ) left me feeling troubled and somehow guilty.Alessia clearly disliked what she was doing and very probably dislikes sex in general , she was incredibly glum for all but the one moment at the end , and it was unclear if she was being forced to do it against her will.She did convey to me that she only receives a tiny fraction of the money.
  This was the only ever time I had to consider if I should take some form of action such as contacting the relevant authorities, but who is to say how much better if any the girl's situation would be for this and so I did nothing.
  Maybe Alessia and others in a similar position are used to following the 15 minutes ' pump and dump '  formula where there is no human interaction and they just grudgingly bear it ( it did seems as though my attempts at gentleness and interaction were something she was not used to ) but that has absolutely no appeal for me.Maybe i am too sensitive and she is an alright punt if you only want a quick 15 or 30 minutes and don't want any soppy stuff.I have no idea even if she gives oral or what the sex is like as her attitude combined with the lack of privacy removed any desire.I would be very interested to here of anyone-else's experiences with her and would genuinely hope that theirs were better than mine and that maybe I did catch her at the wrong time.
 
 
     
 

willbred

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You should have walked the moment you heard the voices. Let's face it things weren't looking great up 'til then, were they.

You didn't honour the punt so much as listen to dick brain. Whenever we do this...we are fucked ( over) 100% every time. I know, mate...been there!

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That's a weird one. You're right that girl sounds definitely pimped - someone posed the hypothesis before that the only way out for trafficked girls is to provide a godawful service so they make no money for the pimps who bin them.
You probably should have made an anonymous tip to crime stoppers or some such. That wasn't a good situation for anyone.

Thankfully I've never had your experience - even the terrible Romanian punts I've had at least the girl knew why I was there and made an effort.

Completely agree also that you can't trust vivastreet in anyway shape or form

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Sounds like a nightmare situation. Sounds like her pimp is just renting a room which is more than bizarre. unfortunate this is the dark side of this business that thank god i've not had much to do with.

As mentioned the right thing to do is contact the police or crime-stoppers at the end of the day its modern day slavery. 

Offline Placebo88

I chose not to report this to any authority because it was impossible for me to ascertain the exact circumstances and know what was the best thing to do.I could not be sure if she was being forced to work against her will , if she hated the work but had chosen to take the job or if she was just a naturally very miserable person and poor service provider.Also I could not possibly know if she would have wanted the matter reported and what would have happened to her had it been reported.

Her handlers clearly have little regard for her as the complete inaccuracy of the profile description could lead to some difficult situations for her ; especially if she is being sent on outcalls.It is potentially a very dangerous business.

As to the deliberated providing a bad service to get dropped I think the handlers get around this (and bad service in general) by regularly shipping the girls around the country to a new and unsuspecting market.Vivastreet has no feedback system.The number of ads containing NEW GIRL IN TOWN in the title is very worrying if it is an indication of the prevalence of this.There will also obviously be more interest in the NEW GIRL IN TOWN simply because of her being new and something different.

Again I have to state that I was not certain of the specifics of anything regarding the situation.If anyone else has seen Alessia it would be very interesting to hear their thoughts and experiences as they may differ from my interpretation.

For me punting should be a fun and exciting recreational activity , not something that leaves you with moral questions and worries that you have done the wrong thing or failed to do the right thing.I do not expect an escort to enjoy the experience with me but want to be confident it is a decision they have made of their own free after weighing up the pros and cons of the job.I want it to be a genuine interaction between two people with respect on both sides ( sorry, too fluffy I know ! ).After discovering Adultwork and UKP my bookings with escorts have met this criteria and I am very glad of the existence of both sites.

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Offline pianodave

You need see beyond the crap punt, waste of money, etc, and call crimestoppers. Seems pretty obvious what is happening to this girl.

Offline Demistify

This is worrying stuff...You read on here so often about Romanians offering perfunctory service, at best. Does this mean those who are, are all coerced? Or are some just doing as little as possible, not really bothering about a service, because they are happy just to pocket the £ and don't care about anything else? :unknown:

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That's a weird one. You're right that girl sounds definitely pimped - someone posed the hypothesis before that the only way out for trafficked girls is to provide a godawful service so they make no money for the pimps who bin them.
You probably should have made an anonymous tip to crime stoppers or some such. That wasn't a good situation for anyone.

Thankfully I've never had your experience - even the terrible Romanian punts I've had at least the girl knew why I was there and made an effort.

Completely agree also that you can't trust vivastreet in anyway shape or form


I agree, this review is uncomfortable, moreso the fact she smiled, when he pulled a sad face, a woman would usually smile at this if they are feeling down , we are a bit weird like that

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seen her myself over a yr ago in wolves, now i never got that impression myself that anything odd was going on, but who knows.but great ass as i followed her up the stairs but those boobs were  shocking when the bra came off,egg splat.
i just got the normal romanian hooker reaction, in cash out, asap.
not 100% sure but there,s two girls on viva st who work the same road now, think it might be the same house.
banged the 1 on a quickie basis chrissy, decent looking and body but as  nailed it doggie, fair stench from below
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and thats the other working from the same place. ( i think)
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Offline Placebo88

 I have noticed that this girl is now also on Adultwork ;

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The profile has had a lot of views in a short space of time but no feedback as yet.

The profile has been verified and nationality is now displayed as Romanian ; no wonder my attempts at Italian met with such failure !

Still using the Vivastreet ' New Girl In ' town line.Hopefully the rest of her service has improved from the Vivastreet standard.

On the plus side she is very pretty , even in her verification photo , and has a very nice petite body.Still looks miserable.

I think she is in a different location to where I saw her last year.

If going I would recommend a shorter booking based on my experience.Any feedback would be appreciated.

Amelie_English Rose

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This is so sad, what an awful read. That poor girl is clearly being forced into this against her will- as others have said this isn't about her lack of 'service skills' or the disparity between her profile and what happened. You met a girl who is being made to have sex for the profit of others. Of course she wasn't chatty, eager or keen to do anything sexual!
How would  you feel if someone kept you cooped up in a house under threat of harm to your family to be fucked by a procession of men ? Would you accept culpability for your lack of enthusiasm and ability?! It's kind of like describing a rape victim as being unwilling... well, duh. Crimestoppers is obviously the only course of action to be taken here, not to leave a negative review on a forum! God forbid her pimps read this, I hate to think of the consequences for her.
Yes, this industry should be about mutual fun and integrity but crime and abuse exists within it and if you want to see less of that, be more proactive in stopping it. Tragic .

Amelie_English Rose

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I have noticed that this girl is now also on Adultwork ;

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The profile has had a lot of views in a short space of time but no feedback as yet.

The profile has been verified and nationality is now displayed as Romanian ; no wonder my attempts at Italian met with such failure !

Still using the Vivastreet ' New Girl In ' town line.Hopefully the rest of her service has improved from the Vivastreet standard.

On the plus side she is very pretty , even in her verification photo , and has a very nice petite body.Still looks miserable.

I think she is in a different location to where I saw her last year.

If going I would recommend a shorter booking based on my experience.Any feedback would be appreciated.


Who cares if she's very pretty?! Of course she looks miserable, she's being forced!  :dash:

Offline Ramone78

If going I would recommend a shorter booking based on my experience.Any feedback would be appreciated.

WHY Would anyone go and compound her Misery ?  :dash:

Amelie_English Rose

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WHY Would anyone go and compound her Misery ?  :dash:

Seriously! Sickening.

Offline Placebo88

WHY Would anyone go and compound her Misery ?  :dash:

If you look you will see that I wrote the original view and so it should be clear that I am totally against anyone being forced to work against their will.

Also if you read the thread properly it should be clear that I was unsure about the situation and in a later post I suggested some other possible interpretations of events.Many escorts will dislike the work but have chosen to do it of their own free will , just as many people with regular jobs dislike what they do but need the money - she may have agreed to it because the alternative life options available to her were worse.Things are not black and white and you should think before acting.

If I had felt confident in the fact that she was there against her will I would have reported it.She had no bruises or any signs of harm.As I said I tried to ask her quietly about the situation but the language barrier made it impossible.

Clearly from the number of AW views she must be seeing a good number of clients at the moment and that is why I bumped the thread and asked for the feedback ; more in the hope that they would report very differently to me ; I do not necessarily regard myself as a great judge of these things.Also in this thread there is a post from someone else who saw her saying that he did not get the same impression as I did.

 As the title suggests , a lot of profiles on Vivastreet ( certainly in my area ) seem very similar to this example and as such I now avoid the site all together in case the worst case scenario is true.
  I do not know the answer to trafficking , but do think a greater acceptance and openness of legitimate independent prostitutes and the legalizing of brothels where girls can work together in safely would help.There could then be more regulation and it would be easier for authorities to identify those who are truly breaking laws and causing suffering.I said something similar in another thread less than a week ago;

'I can understand the desire and reasons for trying to eradicate street prostitution as it impacts the community in a range of ways , off street prostitution avoids all of these negative impacts.
  The only serious problems that exist within off street prostitution , and are most likely less prevalent than some believe , are trafficking and abuse by pimps .A greater acceptance of off street prostitution as a legitimate trade , and even the use of social services to make discrete checks on escorts' welfare , would better tackle these issues by opening up access rather than making everything even more secretive and underground - a positive intervention rather than a negative one.'

The world is a complicated place ; things are not always clear cut or easy to understand.The reaction of the poster I highlighted would be correct if it was established or highly likely that this girl was being forced against her will but it was far from clear.I would be glad of them to visit her for the purposes of making an assessment of the situation and then report to whatever authorities they think could best help if they believe they could make a definite judgement about it !

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Seriously! Sickening.

I would think that the review would deter people from visiting .

Most estimates are that only around 10% of those called punters are aware of UKP and so this thread will not be read by the vast majority of her customers , particularly those who use Vivastreet.

I was unsure of the situation but if others also had grave suspicions and then saw this thread a report would be more likely.Again though , when communication with the girl is impossible it is very difficult to assess and if you report wrongly would they be grateful for that ?

I mentioned that she is pretty as I was trying to be objective and balanced.She may want customers as she is saving her share of the money towards something, maybe a new life or career back home, and I would not want to significantly harm her trade if this were the case.

If you read through many reviews on here a lot of girls behave in a not dissimilar way , take the recent negative review of Sonya ; previously positively reviewed.You will see that people interpret things differently.

As I have said elsewhere I would have reported this to someone if I had any degree of certainty in the matter.Incidentally who would it be best to report to and what would the likely outcome be for the girl involved ; what would happen to her ?

I now stick to either established and well reviewed escorts or British girls who I can properly communicate with as I do not wish to have any part in the funding , even potentially , of trafficking.

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I would think that the review would deter people from visiting .

Most estimates are that only around 10% of those called punters are aware of UKP and so this thread will not be read by the vast majority of her customers , particularly those who use Vivastreet.

I was unsure of the situation but if others also had grave suspicions and then saw this thread a report would be more likely.Again though , when communication with the girl is impossible it is very difficult to assess and if you report wrongly would they be grateful for that ?

I mentioned that she is pretty as I was trying to be objective and balanced.She may want customers as she is saving her share of the money towards something, maybe a new life or career back home, and I would not want to significantly harm her trade if this were the case.

If you read through many reviews on here a lot of girls behave in a not dissimilar way , take the recent negative review of Sonya ; previously positively reviewed.You will see that people interpret things differently.

As I have said elsewhere I would have reported this to someone if I had any degree of certainty in the matter.Incidentally who would it be best to report to and what would the likely outcome be for the girl involved ; what would happen to her ?

I now stick to either established and well reviewed escorts or British girls who I can properly communicate with as I do not wish to have any part in the funding , even potentially , of trafficking.

Girls who are being trafficked don't get to 'save' for anything- they're essentially kept as chattel under threat.
I'm aware that there are Eastern European girls who are surly and want to do as little as possible but I think what everybody has read from this review is an overtone of coercion, misery .  The presence of pimps plus her passive, resigned approach to your moves on her also suggest she's there against her will. A quick google will direct you to your local anti-trafficking department; I really don't think leaving her there is the 'best option' in this instance. There are services that help trafficked women and can protect her, I'm sure she would much rather be supported and eventually able to return home than kept in these circumstances.
Why post the review if you don't want to effect her business if she is working of her own volition and on the other hand, if you suspected she was working against her will, why post the review?

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Girls who are being trafficked don't get to 'save' for anything- they're essentially kept as chattel under threat.
I'm aware that there are Eastern European girls who are surly and want to do as little as possible but I think what everybody has read from this review is an overtone of coercion, misery .  The presence of pimps plus her passive, resigned approach to your moves on her also suggest she's there against her will. A quick google will direct you to your local anti-trafficking department; I really don't think leaving her there is the 'best option' in this instance. There are services that help trafficked women and can protect her, I'm sure she would much rather be supported and eventually able to return home than kept in these circumstances.
Why post the review if you don't want to effect her business if she is working of her own volition and on the other hand, if you suspected she was working against her will, why post the review?

May I ask if you have reported her?

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May I ask if you have reported her?

I'm not sure how I would be able to report her, not having seen her myself and not knowing where she works from or the area! My report would be of little use as i've no first hand experience or useful information to pass on, hence this one lying with the OP.

Offline Placebo88

Girls who are being trafficked don't get to 'save' for anything- they're essentially kept as chattel under threat.
I'm aware that there are Eastern European girls who are surly and want to do as little as possible but I think what everybody has read from this review is an overtone of coercion, misery .  The presence of pimps plus her passive, resigned approach to your moves on her also suggest she's there against her will. A quick google will direct you to your local anti-trafficking department; I really don't think leaving her there is the 'best option' in this instance. There are services that help trafficked women and can protect her, I'm sure she would much rather be supported and eventually able to return home than kept in these circumstances.
Why post the review if you don't want to effect her business if she is working of her own volition and on the other hand, if you suspected she was working against her will, why post the review?

Firstly I want to make it perfectly clear that my view as to the unacceptability of forced sex work is exactly the same as yours and that of any decent person ; I thought that was obvious from my posts on this thread.I stated at the offset that the review was as much a discussion thread on the worst aspects of the sex trade and that was my reason for posting.Any money lost was an irrelevance to me ; with every punt I see it as a potential waste of money and accept that and have spent much more on poor service providers but I did not leave with concerns about their well being.

I know some ( most ) of my posts are long , rambling and boring and you may have lost your concentration, but at non point did I say that she was clearly trafficked ; it was uncertain suspicions.You are speaking from the stand point that she is definitely trafficked which is inaccurate if you are referring to this specific case.

I had no idea as to the link to the men I heard.Whilst she would almost certainly have a pimp / facilitator or whatever you wish to call them that would be essential for her due to her lack of English and ability to set up independently.Most foreign escort have someone in the 'pimp' role and these pimps can be friends , family etc - they can be an integral part of a prostitute's business rather than a controlling slaver.As an agency worker you yourself have people who for all intents and purposes act as your pimps.

 An effective means of tackling trafficking and providing proper aftercare for its victims would be a wonderful thing but the current realities do not match this.There is no ' anti trafficking unit ' and if you look at the recent thread in the main section you will see just how clueless the attitude of some Policemen / Forces are to prostitution in general.Should an illegal immigrant prostitute be 'rescued'  I would have thought there was a fair chance she would be deported back to the poverty stricken country that she had fled from - I doubt there is a Sanctuary for Rescued Escorts.

 As someone else said if you know what best to do and are sure of the situation then please do it.I was very new to punting when I saw her and still cannot assess it with any great clarity.The aim of the review was to get the views of those with more experience and generate some discussion of a very important issue.


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Firstly I want to make it perfectly clear that my view as to the unacceptability of forced sex work is exactly the same as yours and that of any decent person ; I thought that was obvious from my posts on this thread.I stated at the offset that the review was as much a discussion thread on the worst aspects of the sex trade and that was my reason for posting.Any money lost was an irrelevance to me ; with every punt I see it as a potential waste of money and accept that and have spent much more on poor service providers but I did not leave with concerns about their well being.

I know some ( most ) of my posts are long , rambling and boring and you may have lost your concentration, but at non point did I say that she was clearly trafficked ; it was uncertain suspicions.You are speaking from the stand point that she is definitely trafficked which is inaccurate if you are referring to this specific case.

I had no idea as to the link to the men I heard.Whilst she would almost certainly have a pimp / facilitator or whatever you wish to call them that would be essential for her due to her lack of English and ability to set up independently.Most foreign escort have someone in the 'pimp' role and these pimps can be friends , family etc - they can be an integral part of a prostitute's business rather than a controlling slaver.As an agency worker you yourself have people who for all intents and purposes act as your pimps.

 An effective means of tackling trafficking and providing proper aftercare for its victims would be a wonderful thing but the current realities do not match this.There is no ' anti trafficking unit ' and if you look at the recent thread in the main section you will see just how clueless the attitude of some Policemen / Forces are to prostitution in general.Should an illegal immigrant prostitute be 'rescued'  I would have thought there was a fair chance she would be deported back to the poverty stricken country that she had fled from - I doubt there is a Sanctuary for Rescued Escorts.

 As someone else said if you know what best to do and are sure of the situation then please do it.I was very new to punting when I saw her and still cannot assess it with any great clarity.The aim of the review was to get the views of those with more experience and generate some discussion of a very important issue.

No, you didn't say she was certainly trafficked. The indications were there in strength though.

While law enforcement is lacklustre round prostitution as a whole, there are specialist anti-trafficking teams and there are services that are aimed at helping these women.
As I mentioned, I am in no position to take any actions here- the only thing I have to go on is your internet post, I have no first hand information and I haven't been to see her so i'm not sure how anyone imagines I would be able to make a report.
I'm glad you recognise this is an important issue and perhaps if you enquired locally about  anti-trafficking measures (I don't know your area's provisions) you could do more to address what we all agree is 'the worst side of this business'.

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No, you didn't say she was certainly trafficked. The indications were there in strength though.

While law enforcement is lacklustre round prostitution as a whole, there are specialist anti-trafficking teams and there are services that are aimed at helping these women.
As I mentioned, I am in no position to take any actions here- the only thing I have to go on is your internet post, I have no first hand information and I haven't been to see her so i'm not sure how anyone imagines I would be able to make a report.
I'm glad you recognise this is an important issue and perhaps if you enquired locally about  anti-trafficking measures (I don't know your area's provisions) you could do more to address what we all agree is 'the worst side of this business'.

Thanks for your input.

I wrote the review a while back and the meeting took place some time before that so I do not know her exact location now.Her profiles could be reported , but I could not give an address.

I am close to Wolverhampton , West Midlands and if you do a Vivastreet search of that town the number of these kind of profiles is shocking ; almost all of them are New Girl In Town.Presumably they get a lot of custom otherwise there would not be so many but I read hardly anything in the papers about any police intervention so presumably a mixture of the following is the case ;

Most customers do not believe or even consider that the girls are trafficked, and some don't care either way ( a sad reality).
Those who suspect do not report as they have no factual evidence or degree of certainty about the matter
Many of the girls are willingly involved in the business
Police response to reports of suspected trafficking is inadequate or they prefer not to bother investigating

 Within the confines of a booking I would find it very difficult to know if a certain girl was trafficked or not ; would many punters be better able to judge?What I experienced would by many be considered as expected Romanian service and put down to the girl's attitude.The only reason this booking panned out as it did was because I was sensitive to the atmosphere and not prepared to have sex with a girl who was clearly not happy ( though not obviously doing it against her will ) in what some people refer to as a ' Pump and Dump ' style - this was her intention as she went for a condom immediately but to me it felt wrong so I could not proceed .

Since joining I have not encountered many threads on trafficking and how to identify a trafficked girl , maybe something should be started on the main site where it will be more visible to all members.
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