English escorts make it easy for EE girls

[jsparky]

The main difference between UK and EE girls is that UK girls get into this work to fund a chosen lifestyle, whereas EE girls do it to make /save ££ as much as possible. That's why UK girls are often broke and unreliable whereas EE girls tend to treat the profession primaraly as a business. The smart EE girls make an effort with service and return custom but still won't get too close.

Obviously this is a generalization and there are exception but this is the cultural difference in a nutshell.

Isn't it true to all other profession as well? Most EE or foreign worker (I mean all professions not just whoring) are here to work and save money as much as possible to support their families back home or built their home here to have a 'comfortable life styles'.

[Diehard]

Yes, in the same way that many of the Romanian sisterhood of WGs are almost universally derided in the UK for their poor service, it would be educational for the Brit girls to understand the punters' perspective. The term, "attitude adjustment" seems relevant here.

Good thread, Diehard 

Thanks. I'm glad to see that I'm not alone in finding the British hookers in the main to be a bunch of thick uneducated lazy bitches unable to even manage a diary.

What fascinates me is that we all know this site is read by many British hookers, yet none has come here to defend themselves. They constantly whine about foreign women stealing their business but haven't even got the linguistic skills to come on here and explain themselves.

It is a wonderful insight into the wider problems this country faces. The PC brigade won't have it, but any employer will know that British women, especially english women, are the most useless employees to have. They are lazy, want to to the bare minimum but expect yearly pay rises, unreliable as seem to always take the maximum amount of sick days off, and believe pregnancy entitles them to a year off work and special treatment on the odd occasion they make it in.

Yet they expect to be paid well enough and also have a partner who gives them enough money, to afford all the luxuries in life.

Those bitches on loose women tv show should read this thread. When they whine about men cheating on them, perhaps they will realise why, and also realise why women still don't get equal pay or the top jobs if employers can get away with it.

Memo to British hookers. Lower your prices, learn how to use a diary, and start understanding the punter is king and you are there to serve our requirements. The polish women seem to understand this.

[yorkshire123]

Thanks. I'm glad to see that I'm not alone in finding the British hookers in the main to be a bunch of thick uneducated lazy bitches unable to even manage a diary.

What fascinates me is that we all know this site is read by many British hookers, yet none has come here to defend themselves. They constantly whine about foreign women stealing their business but haven't even got the linguistic skills to come on here and explain themselves.

It is a wonderful insight into the wider problems this country faces. The PC brigade won't have it, but any employer will know that British women, especially english women, are the most useless employees to have. They are lazy, want to to the bare minimum but expect yearly pay rises, unreliable as seem to always take the maximum amount of sick days off, and believe pregnancy entitles them to a year off work and special treatment on the odd occasion they make it in.

Yet they expect to be paid well enough and also have a partner who gives them enough money, to afford all the luxuries in life.

Those bitches on loose women tv show should read this thread. When they whine about men cheating on them, perhaps they will realise why, and also realise why women still don't get equal pay or the top jobs if employers can get away with it.

Memo to British hookers. Lower your prices, learn how to use a diary, and start understanding the punter is king and you are there to serve our requirements. The polish women seem to understand this.

I have to disagree, I have worked in industries that are heavily male biased, female biased & an equal mixture of both & what i have found is the laziest fucker on site is always a man.
Also I've been involved in quite a lot of absenteeism disciplinary hearings & I would estimate that at least 90% of these were males.

[JIMI1234]

Thanks. I'm glad to see that I'm not alone in finding the British hookers in the main to be a bunch of thick uneducated lazy bitches unable to even manage a diary.

What fascinates me is that we all know this site is read by many British hookers, yet none has come here to defend themselves. They constantly whine about foreign women stealing their business but haven't even got the linguistic skills to come on here and explain themselves.

It is a wonderful insight into the wider problems this country faces. The PC brigade won't have it, but any employer will know that British women, especially english women, are the most useless employees to have. They are lazy, want to to the bare minimum but expect yearly pay rises, unreliable as seem to always take the maximum amount of sick days off, and believe pregnancy entitles them to a year off work and special treatment on the odd occasion they make it in.

Yet they expect to be paid well enough and also have a partner who gives them enough money, to afford all the luxuries in life.

Those bitches on loose women tv show should read this thread. When they whine about men cheating on them, perhaps they will realise why, and also realise why women still don't get equal pay or the top jobs if employers can get away with it.

Memo to British hookers. Lower your prices, learn how to use a diary, and start understanding the punter is king and you are there to serve our requirements. The polish women seem to understand this.

Hey Diehard,
When your comments were made in relation to English WG's i tended to agree, not absolutely, but in general. But when you said this also encompassed the wider female workforce I have to disagree.
There are some damn intelligent, hard working career women out there (and closer to home too) who comfortably earn 6 figure salaries and don't trade on looks at all.
And as for English WG's not coming on here to defend themselves, while using correct grammar; well that's not true either. Some do; and can.

Not looking to argue with you, but felt that though your original post was generally accurate; it wasn't applicable in the wider sense.

[Dave2014]

 . . any employer will know that British women, especially english women, are the most useless employees to have. They are lazy, want to to the bare minimum but expect yearly pay rises, unreliable as seem to always take the maximum amount of sick days off, and believe pregnancy entitles them to a year off work and special treatment on the odd occasion they make it in.

With the greatest respect, that is complete and utter bullshit. It says a lot more about you and the women you know than it does about British/English women.

It is one thing to legitimately compare the service and prices of British/English WGs with their foreign peers - it is another thing entirely to spew out a baseless rant about a nation of women which substantiates only your misogyny and not the point you were trying, but failed, to make.

[vw]

With the greatest respect, that is complete and utter bullshit. It says a lot more about you and the women you know than it does about British/English women.

It is one thing to legitimately compare the service and prices of British/English WGs with their foreign peers - it is another thing entirely to spew out a baseless rant about a nation of women which substantiates only your misogyny and not the point you were trying, but failed, to make.

+1

Seems diehard doesn't like the female competition in the workplace.

[Loverat]

+1

Seems diehard doesn't like the female competition in the workplace.

Seems diehard doesn't like the female ......full stop.

[Ali Katt]

Seems diehard doesn't like the female ......full stop.

Rather obliquely some women that have kids do expect special treatment, like that woman that wanted that parking space in Sainsburys. Or women that expect to be given 3 days off a week and still earn the same wage as they have kids.

Have to agree some of the laziest employees I have met have been men; mainly checking their phone every two seconds. I have met a few women that love to chat their paid time away, much like prossies, but they are in the minority.

[smiths]

I have to disagree, I have worked in industries that are heavily male biased, female biased & an equal mixture of both & what i have found is the laziest fucker on site is always a man.
Also I've been involved in quite a lot of absenteeism disciplinary hearings & I would estimate that at least 90% of these were males.

Yes this has been my experiences generally as well, certainly had more trouble with Brit men than Brit women and have employed many over the years.

[Marmalade]

All this is based on nothing more than different people's thru the keyhole experiences. So what.

In Scotland, the British contingent has declined. Was a lot of students for a while. They could all be relied on to give a consistently better service that 90% of the EEs and charged about a tenner more. Most Brits have simply put their prices up to distinguish themselves from the bad rep of foreigners. In Scotland I'd say there's no longer a rule based on nationality. It's sometimes easier to book and arrange services with someone who speaks Englush and writes their own profile but not always.  Some people of course, like arguing for the sake of it, or having a vent after a couple of crap punts.

[Diehard]

With the greatest respect, that is complete and utter bullshit. It says a lot more about you and the women you know than it does about British/English women.

It is one thing to legitimately compare the service and prices of British/English WGs with their foreign peers - it is another thing entirely to spew out a baseless rant about a nation of women which substantiates only your misogyny and not the point you were trying, but failed, to make.

My experience in the workplace is British women are next to useless. Endless tea and coffee and smoke breaks and always use their sick entitlement to the maximum.

[Diehard]

Hey Diehard,
When your comments were made in relation to English WG's i tended to agree, not absolutely, but in general. But when you said this also encompassed the wider female workforce I have to disagree.
There are some damn intelligent, hard working career women out there (and closer to home too) who comfortably earn 6 figure salaries and don't trade on looks at all.
And as for English WG's not coming on here to defend themselves, while using correct grammar; well that's not true either. Some do; and can.

Not looking to argue with you, but felt that though your original post was generally accurate; it wasn't applicable in the wider sense.

Obviously there are some successful hard working intelligent women out there, but they are a tiny minority. Why is it in the boardroom, in politics, in law firms, in barrister chambers, the vast majority of the top posts are held by men?

Also I think there is a generational point to be made. I think women over the age of 50 have a far higher work ethic than younger women. There has been a cultural change the past 20 years or so and women are no longer willing to make sacrifices. They expect equal treatment despite doing less.

A good example would be female tennis players prize money.

[Tiger63]

In the North East the EE women are pretty much all not to be trusted...not many have good reports on here

[Diehard]

In the North East the EE women are pretty much all not to be trusted...not many have good reports on here

I have stated elsewhere that there is a difference in quality certainly in respect of English women between the North and Midlands and South. I think the North, possible because much poorer than the rest of the country, forces english girls to provide a better service to get repeat clients. I accept I'm speculating but the only decent English girls I've seen have been northern or a couple from East Midlands.

[Ali Katt]

In Yorkshire, most well reviewed attractive British women (under 35) seem to be £80 for 30 minutes, I can go to a parlour and see women, including attractive British ones for £45. Most EEs £60 for 30 minutes, a price I would be willing to risk. I can't quite justify £80. It's very rare that I do an hour with someone I haven't met before.

Somewhere along the the way, British prossies decided their rates should be the same as they were 10 years ago. And plenty of old slappers upping their prices. I doubt most are that busy especially over summer and last month when it was Ramadan.

[tantric talents]

My experience in the workplace is British women are next to useless. Endless tea and coffee and smoke breaks and always use their sick entitlement to the maximum.

Well I have employed a large number of British, WE and EE girls over the years and in generally have found the worst problem still to be to be that of smoking breaks in the younger generation regardless of country of origin.
However Diehard is not entirely wrong when it comes to female Local Authority workers. They can have a serious attitude problem and know how to milk the system like there is no tomorrow. I know this firsthand from a girl who worked for Islington Council back in the day.
Mind you even today if you drive past a local council office you can find any number of fat slags outside smoking their tits off!

[vw]

Diehard is not entirely wrong when it comes to female Local Authority workers. They can have a serious attitude problem and know how to milk the system like there is no tomorrow.

That's just Local Authority workers nothing to do with sex or race or shoe size.

[Tiger63]

I have stated elsewhere that there is a difference in quality certainly in respect of English women between the North and Midlands and South. I think the North, possible because much poorer than the rest of the country, forces english girls to provide a better service to get repeat clients. I accept I'm speculating but the only decent English girls I've seen have been northern or a couple from East Midlands.

We`re blessed with some tremedous UK girls up here and some of the prices are much better....two of my regulars charge £90 an hour

[Quesadilla]

Utter bollocks. 5 of my top regs are English and gave me the best and most professional of services every time. Two Polish girls can almost match their work ethic but equally I've met some lazy Brits,  Poles and other nationalities.

 I don't believe there is any link between quality and nationality. Except maybe Romanians being generally shite but I'm sure even here there are exceptions that disprove the rule.

[Sylvester]

I've seen 4 British girls so far:

English - MissKDD and Lindsey
Welsh - Tattoo Sophie
Northern Irish - Honey Amber

All of whom have been absolutely excellent.  The issue for me has not been the lack of quality but rather the lack of quantity.  There just aren't that many British girls on AW by comparison with their EE colleagues.

I don't select girls based on their nationality, but I would quite like to find a good Scottish girl so that I can complete the Home Nations.  I may then move on to British Overseas Territories and Crown Dependencies.  I understand that the Chelsea doctor is Gibraltarian....

[bensonhedges20]

I think the issue with british girls is that they work stupid hours. They treat this as a 9-5 job and have those working hours rather than extending their hours and catering to a wider clientele like say 2pm till 10pm.

EE girls in comparison to british girls can multitask better ( work a normal job, escort, handle family and friends) and dont judge as much. They dont roll theor eyes and think they are better than you whereas some british girls give the impression they should not be in this job but cant leave it due to the money amd their skillset.
They (EE) are laid back in their capacity and comfortable. They dont blame other girls or get insecure.

British girls do tend to gossip with other escorts and have escort holidays with other escorts etc. EE are laid back and probably wont know or disclose their escort friends


Im comparing like for like ( british girls only with polish/lithuanian), similar age group, similar experiances and services provided.

None have pimps, are independent nature only. Not taking sides of either but im more inclined to revisit a EE girl than a british one as you get treated better rather than worse on the second visit.

Thats my experiance but wont be the same for all

[denneboom]

I prefer to punt in parlours, but here they are stuffed with EE girls giving poor service.

You can turn up at a parlour at 3 in the morning and get a conveyor belt service from a tired detached,disinterested EE.

Or go in daylight hours and get full GFE from an English girl.

This can vary.

On the West Midlands thread punters are chasing after the 3 good English parlour girls that are known of.

[Dani]

What fascinates me is that we all know this site is read by many British hookers, yet none has come here to defend themselves. They constantly whine about foreign women stealing their business but haven't even got the linguistic skills to come on here and explain themselves.
Lower  your prices, learn how to use a diary, and start understanding the punter is king and you are there to serve our requirements. The polish women seem to understand this.

If any of us did come here and say we do organise our diaries, answer emails promptly, charge lower rates and put our clients first we would be shouted down for touting which is why no one has. It has nothing to do with no having the linguistic skills required to formulate a response at all. We would be speaking about ourselves and therefor touting which is not allowed.  Trying to call us out to do just that is not really helpful to punters or prossies as it will just ruin a thread with lots of abuse

[Ali Katt]

If any of us did come here and say we do organise our diaries, answer emails promptly, charge lower rates and put our clients first we would be shouted down for touting which is why no one has. It has nothing to do with no having the linguistic skills required to formulate a response at all. We would be speaking about ourselves and therefor touting which is not allowed.  Trying to call us out to do just that is not really helpful to punters or prossies as it will just ruin a thread with lots of abuse

Dani I wouldn't worry from what I can tell you are busy and a favourably reviewed escort as is other board member Sarah Jayne.

But, I tried to see two British women a few months back, one cancelled 3 times for no good reason(s). The other didn't pick up the phone. If I had phoned a Romanian, I doubt it would have been a problem.

[Diehard]

Dani I wouldn't worry from what I can tell you are busy and a favourably reviewed escort as is other board member Sarah Jayne.

But, I tried to see two British women a few months back, one cancelled 3 times for no good reason(s). The other didn't pick up the phone. If I had phoned a Romanian, I doubt it would have been a problem.

It's an interesting debate, who are worse Romanians or the British? I don't see Romanians after reading so many bad reviews on here but the British women are getting worse by the day. However the poles seem to get better and better.

After this thread im wondering if anyone has seen any improvement in the attitude of British girls?

[azrael]

I've tried to book 3 different english girls all booked through aw two cancelled on me with lame excuses (probably bumped for a regular) one didnt even bother to send me her postcode didnt even bother with a reason/excuse. Most of my regulars are now polish so all i do is fire a text away asking for a booking at a certain time they get back with either a yes or a replacement time, never been bumped/pushed aside for another regular, but there always is an exception to the rule as some english wg's will push the boat out to make you feel welcome

[Dani]

It could perhaps be that Some British women don't take this job very seriously as they believe there will always be another punter if they let one down.  It's that blase attitude that the money will be there when they want it. What they don't realise and will do eventually is that without gaining regulars you can't earn during the quiet months. You can't rely on new clients always being there so you have to look after the ones you do get so that they do hopefully keep coming back. 
I have met a few women with that attitude and after a year they tend to give up or go very part time as they just don't get enough clients in to pay the bills let alone have a decent standard of living on

[tonysoprano]

The British girls I've seen have mostly been great. But I can see equally good EE girls who cost less.

That's the bottom line really. I don't really punt for the conversation so I can't see why I should pay more just because someone happens to be from the same country as me.

[vw]

I can't see why I should pay more just because someone happens to be from the same country as me.

Sicily ?

[Blackpool Rock]

Sicily ?

Surely technically American Italian?

[JIMI1234]

Obviously there are some successful hard working intelligent women out there, but they are a tiny minority. Why is it in the boardroom, in politics, in law firms, in barrister chambers, the vast majority of the top posts are held by men?

Also I think there is a generational point to be made. I think women over the age of 50 have a far higher work ethic than younger women. There has been a cultural change the past 20 years or so and women are no longer willing to make sacrifices. They expect equal treatment despite doing less.

The glass ceiling. Women aren't given the chances men are... and it's gonna take a long time for some sort of balance to be achieved as men have been the dominant sex for 100s of years.

Agree with point 2 generally; Older women have a better work ethic

[vw]

Surely technically American Italian?

No they are very Old Country centric but if it was your way it would be the other way round Italian American.  The yanks always but race/historical nationality before American in speech and writing !

[Ipunter]

I just saw a British WG and it was probably the best punt I've ever had. I have also not had much of an issue with any British WG.

[Tiger63]

It could perhaps be that Some British women don't take this job very seriously as they believe there will always be another punter if they let one down.  It's that blase attitude that the money will be there when they want it. What they don't realise and will do eventually is that without gaining regulars you can't earn during the quiet months. You can't rely on new clients always being there so you have to look after the ones you do get so that they do hopefully keep coming back. 
I have met a few women with that attitude and after a year they tend to give up or go very part time as they just don't get enough clients in to pay the bills let alone have a decent standard of living on

Dani, do you think it varies on what part of the country you are in......My 2 regular girls are spot on with their comms as are most of the girls that I deal with in the North East.
When I`ve been in London or Edinburgh its been almost impossible to even get a reply let alone a booking.
Iam assuming that the North isnt as populated so girls have to make a bit more effort to get punters in.

[SamLP]

It's an easy choice for me. English girls (in London) charge a premium rate so I choose to punt with those who charge a more decent rate which seem to be mostly EE girls.

[Dani]

Dani, do you think it varies on what part of the country you are in......My 2 regular girls are spot on with their comms as are most of the girls that I deal with in the North East.
When I`ve been in London or Edinburgh its been almost impossible to even get a reply let alone a booking.
Iam assuming that the North isnt as populated so girls have to make a bit more effort to get punters in.

Not at all. I'm in the midlands and some are like this and some aren't. I think it depends on the woman. For instance someone like me worked really hard for many years bringing up kids and working full time for not a great deal of money (NHS pay is crap but that another thread) so I know the value of not only hard work but money. I know how quick it can all suddenly disappear. I know what it's like to live on a budget. So women like me appreciate how much a client has to pay and how long it may have took him to earn that money.  Others may never have been in that situation so don't realise that all this spare cash they like to waste on shoes and bags that cost more than an average Joes wages can suddenly be gone. Unlike some of us they wont have savings either as they assume there will always be a queue of new men waiting to see them. They have never struggled or budgeted so don't really understand the value of money and think nothing of £100 as its not even an eighth of a pair of Louboutins.

I do believe that is the difference.  It's not realising that some men only bring home £250 a week and have to pay a mortgage and support their family on that so even £50 is a lot of money to them.  It's not understanding clients can disappear very quickly and also not understanding the value of money to others. I do believe it's basically that simple

We seem to have a generation or two of 'I deserve' attitude.  As in they deserve the very best of everything and don't want to have to work for it.  Look how many people want to be on reality TV. Just so they can become 'famous' and have tons of money for doing nothing at all. It's not only in this job though unfortunately. I saw it when nursing with other nurses who didn't want to do the work and would keep disappearing as soon as something needed doing but still expected the money

[Marmalade]

Of course it is not a nationality thing but can seem as if it is. EEs are often short-term in this country. Like British WGs they may or may not have an incentive to give a good service out of self-respect in their work: BUT they don't have the added incentive of needing to build a good reputation and client base that British (longer-term) prossies do.

Not all prossies that succeed long term achieve it by giving vfm. Some are just very good at marketing. 

I can think of one or two who came on UKP in the early days -- feminazis who were quickly outed as pure raging CUNTS. For the ones that manage to stay, it is usually their sincerity that convinces. I wouldn't book Dani, probably not my type, but I'd certainly buy her a drink if I bumped into her.

[vw]

BUT they don't have the added incentive of needing to build a good reputation and client base that British (longer-term) prossies do.

I think a lot see themselves only doing it short term, but often lack the plan to make short term work for them.

[LanceVance]

It's an easy choice for me. English girls (in London) charge a premium rate so I choose to punt with those who charge a more decent rate which seem to be mostly EE girls.

Pretty much this. In this part of the world you see so many English girls charge more the Eastern Europeans for a poorer service, that it just makes more sense to go with the cheaper option. Poles in particular understand that the key to a successful business is good customer service, and they tend to provide it in spades.

[Marmalade]

I think a lot see themselves only doing it short term, but often lack the plan to make short term work for them.

I think a lot don't think.

Some of the ones that truly decide to do it short term (many students in this category) also decide to do it well for that period. But the unthinking ones drift into it and keep telling themselves it's short term to make themselves feel better. They have fuck all control over their lives sadly.

[Dave2014]

Not at all. I'm in the midlands and some are like this and some aren't. I think it depends on the woman. For instance someone like me worked really hard for many years bringing up kids and working full time for not a great deal of money (NHS pay is crap but that another thread) so I know the value of not only hard work but money. I know how quick it can all suddenly disappear. I know what it's like to live on a budget. So women like me appreciate how much a client has to pay and how long it may have took him to earn that money.  Others may never have been in that situation so don't realise that all this spare cash they like to waste on shoes and bags that cost more than an average Joes wages can suddenly be gone. Unlike some of us they wont have savings either as they assume there will always be a queue of new men waiting to see them. They have never struggled or budgeted so don't really understand the value of money and think nothing of £100 as its not even an eighth of a pair of Louboutins.

I do believe that is the difference.  It's not realising that some men only bring home £250 a week and have to pay a mortgage and support their family on that so even £50 is a lot of money to them.  It's not understanding clients can disappear very quickly and also not understanding the value of money to others. I do believe it's basically that simple

We seem to have a generation or two of 'I deserve' attitude.  As in they deserve the very best of everything and don't want to have to work for it.  Look how many people want to be on reality TV. Just so they can become 'famous' and have tons of money for doing nothing at all. It's not only in this job though unfortunately. I saw it when nursing with other nurses who didn't want to do the work and would keep disappearing as soon as something needed doing but still expected the money

I have to say: I think Dani is awesome. 

[GreyDave]

average Joes wages can suddenly be gone. Unlike some of us they wont have savings either as they assume there will always be a queue of new men waiting to see them. They have never struggled or budgeted so don't really understand the value of money and think nothing of £100 as its not even an eighth of a pair of Louboutins.

I do believe that is the difference.  It's not realising that some men only bring home £250 a week and have to pay a mortgage and support their family on that so even £50 is a lot of money to them.  It's not understanding clients can disappear very quickly and also not understanding the value of money to others. I do believe it's basically that simple

We seem to have a generation or two of 'I deserve' attitude.  As in they deserve the very best of everything and don't want to have to work for it.   

( end of dani`s quote)

I and others completely agree   I usally do walk ups at 20 quid a pop or half hours at 40 quid all with non UK girls. The last time I shagged a very good english big titter was 1/2 hour for £80 it was really 20mins so there`s the rub VFM some weeks being selfemployed work is dead..nothing or jobs get put back for a lot of us 80 quid is a chunk of cash ..EE girls know this a lot better than uk girls

[Tony Montana]

I think the Polish work ethic extends to more than WGs.  The "Polish Plumber" was a phrase coined for a guy who would come in and do decent work for a fair price whereas the British equivalent would shake his head, suck air through his teeth and then give you a silly quote if he got back to you at all.

[LanceVance]

I think the Polish work ethic extends to more than WGs.  The "Polish Plumber" was a phrase coined for a guy who would come in and do decent work for a fair price whereas the British equivalent would shake his head, suck air through his teeth and then give you a silly quote if he got back to you at all.

Ain't that the truth.

[Hawkwind71]

Sorry again guys but I'm a latecomer to this thread and just catching up with what is current thinking.
Since I joined, UKP has basically demolished three of my four pillars of punting.

1 THEN : Pay 200 to 300 for a booking                            NOW: 140 maximum
2 THEN : Pay for 2 or 3 hrs so you can chat, get to know   NOW: Pay for an hour and get down to business
3 THEN : Book a week or so ahead                                 NOW : Call only on the morning of the date

Now it seems my last sacred pillar must fall
4 THEN : Only see British girls cos they are safe and clean  NOW : See Polish and Czech cos they offer best rates/Service

My head is spinning.
My only concern is how you decide if the EE is pimped or not

[smiths]

Sorry again guys but I'm a latecomer to this thread and just catching up with what is current thinking.
Since I joined, UKP has basically demolished three of my four pillars of punting.

1 THEN : Pay 200 to 300 for a booking                            NOW: 140 maximum
2 THEN : Pay for 2 or 3 hrs so you can chat, get to know   NOW: Pay for an hour and get down to business
3 THEN : Book a week or so ahead                                 NOW : Call only on the morning of the date

Now it seems my last sacred pillar must fall
4 THEN : Only see British girls cos they are safe and clean  NOW : See Polish and Czech cos they offer best rates/Service

My head is spinning.
My only concern is how you decide if the EE is pimped or not

1 No idea why you thought of spending £200-300 for a booking as minimum amounts.
 2 Why you thought you had to get to know a WG, its punting not dating, a good WG will offer a complete stranger who she has just met a good service, by its nature that's her task if she isn't a low life.
 3 Depends how you punt, some punters for example have to plan ahead due to their availability, personally I don't know a fortnight next Tuesday whether I would fancy a punt or not.
4 No idea why you thought Brit WGs were safe and clean, that of course depends on the WG as ever, and what makes a good WG is her attitude NOT where she comes from, not just Czechs and Poles. IMO its not wise to just listen to the rants of some on here about WGs, read reviews as well and you will see WGs of countless nationalities offer good and bad service, its all about locating the good ones obviously which your local review board can hopefully help with.

As to WGs being pimped, literally any WG COULD have a pimp and you wouldn't know it unless they tell you, loads of WGs choose to work for a pimp, always have, that includes every WG who works at a parlour/brothel or agency. Being forced to be a WG against their will is of course an entirely different matter and up to the police too catch those evil people who force women.

[Hawkwind71]

1 No idea why you thought of spending £200-300 for a booking as minimum amounts.
 2 Why you thought you had to get to know a WG, its punting not dating, a good WG will offer a complete stranger who she has just met a good service, by its nature that's her task if she isn't a low life.
 3 Depends how you punt, some punters for example have to plan ahead due to their availability, personally I don't know a fortnight next Tuesday whether I would fancy a punt or not.
4 No idea why you thought Brit WGs were safe and clean, that of course depends on the WG as ever, and what makes a good WG is her attitude NOT where she comes from, not just Czechs and Poles. IMO its not wise to just listen to the rants of some on here about WGs, read reviews as well and you will see WGs of countless nationalities offer good and bad service, its all about locating the good ones obviously which your local review board can hopefully help with.

As to WGs being pimped, literally any WG COULD have a pimp and you wouldn't know it unless they tell you, loads of WGs choose to work for a pimp, always have, that includes every WG who works at a parlour/brothel or agency. Being forced to be a WG against their will is of course an entirely different matter and up to the police too catch those evil people who force women.

Smiths, I admire and respect all you say. I think I maybe wasn't quite as clear as I intended. I was explaining how I was, not how I am now. I completely agree with your synopsis. I was explaining how UKP has changed my perspective for the better and how wrong I was before. I was green, I wanted to do the right thing, I was fluffy, it was all nonsense. It takes a site like this to take the cotton wool out of your eyes and I think it proves its worth. Your explanation of how wrong I was about EE's was what I wanted and now I am done.   

[smiths]

Smiths, I admire and respect all you say. I think I maybe wasn't quite as clear as I intended. I was explaining how I was, not how I am now. I completely agree with your synopsis. I was explaining how UKP has changed my perspective for the better and how wrong I was before. I was green, I wanted to do the right thing, I was fluffy, it was all nonsense. It takes a site like this to take the cotton wool out of your eyes and I think it proves its worth. Your explanation of how wrong I was about EE's was what I wanted and now I am done.   

I thought you were VERY clear in your post, I understood you were posting about then and now, its good to hear UKP has helped.

[Hawkwind71]

Sorry one last point. I do now read all reviews. Thats how I now create my hotlist. I no longer listen to rants. Again I was showing how a site like this changes your whole mindset. I had it all wrong, mea culpa. My HL was decimated but now its so cool and will be even better when I top it off with some good quality foreign ladies.   Thanks again

[vt]

Sorry one last point. I do now read all reviews. Thats how I now create my hotlist. I no longer listen to rants. Again I was showing how a site like this changes your whole mindset. I had it all wrong, mea culpa. My HL was decimated but now its so cool and will be even better when I top it off with some good quality foreign ladies.   Thanks again

I'd second what smiths said about it doesn't matter where the girl is from, it's her individual attitude to the job and her clients that is crucial to the punter experience.

I've met girls of dozens of nationalities inc. many British and various EEs and had good & indifferent from all of them...no single nationality has a monopoly on either good or indifferent service...even Romanians!