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Offline azrael

I've tried to book 3 different english girls all booked through aw two cancelled on me with lame excuses (probably bumped for a regular) one didnt even bother to send me her postcode didnt even bother with a reason/excuse. Most of my regulars are now polish so all i do is fire a text away asking for a booking at a certain time they get back with either a yes or a replacement time, never been bumped/pushed aside for another regular, but there always is an exception to the rule as some english wg's will push the boat out to make you feel welcome

Offline Dani

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It could perhaps be that Some British women don't take this job very seriously as they believe there will always be another punter if they let one down.  It's that blase attitude that the money will be there when they want it. What they don't realise and will do eventually is that without gaining regulars you can't earn during the quiet months. You can't rely on new clients always being there so you have to look after the ones you do get so that they do hopefully keep coming back. 
I have met a few women with that attitude and after a year they tend to give up or go very part time as they just don't get enough clients in to pay the bills let alone have a decent standard of living on

Offline tonysoprano

The British girls I've seen have mostly been great. But I can see equally good EE girls who cost less.

That's the bottom line really. I don't really punt for the conversation so I can't see why I should pay more just because someone happens to be from the same country as me.
Banning reason: Troll

I can't see why I should pay more just because someone happens to be from the same country as me.
Sicily ?


Offline JIMI1234

Obviously there are some successful hard working intelligent women out there, but they are a tiny minority. Why is it in the boardroom, in politics, in law firms, in barrister chambers, the vast majority of the top posts are held by men?

Also I think there is a generational point to be made. I think women over the age of 50 have a far higher work ethic than younger women. There has been a cultural change the past 20 years or so and women are no longer willing to make sacrifices. They expect equal treatment despite doing less.

The glass ceiling. Women aren't given the chances men are... and it's gonna take a long time for some sort of balance to be achieved as men have been the dominant sex for 100s of years.

Agree with point 2 generally; Older women have a better work ethic
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Surely technically American Italian?
No they are very Old Country centric but if it was your way it would be the other way round Italian American.  The yanks always but race/historical nationality before American in speech and writing !

Offline Ipunter

I just saw a British WG and it was probably the best punt I've ever had. I have also not had much of an issue with any British WG.

Offline Tiger63

It could perhaps be that Some British women don't take this job very seriously as they believe there will always be another punter if they let one down.  It's that blase attitude that the money will be there when they want it. What they don't realise and will do eventually is that without gaining regulars you can't earn during the quiet months. You can't rely on new clients always being there so you have to look after the ones you do get so that they do hopefully keep coming back. 
I have met a few women with that attitude and after a year they tend to give up or go very part time as they just don't get enough clients in to pay the bills let alone have a decent standard of living on
Dani, do you think it varies on what part of the country you are in......My 2 regular girls are spot on with their comms as are most of the girls that I deal with in the North East.
When I`ve been in London or Edinburgh its been almost impossible to even get a reply let alone a booking.
Iam assuming that the North isnt as populated so girls have to make a bit more effort to get punters in.

Offline SamLP

It's an easy choice for me. English girls (in London) charge a premium rate so I choose to punt with those who charge a more decent rate which seem to be mostly EE girls.

Offline Dani

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Dani, do you think it varies on what part of the country you are in......My 2 regular girls are spot on with their comms as are most of the girls that I deal with in the North East.
When I`ve been in London or Edinburgh its been almost impossible to even get a reply let alone a booking.
Iam assuming that the North isnt as populated so girls have to make a bit more effort to get punters in.

Not at all. I'm in the midlands and some are like this and some aren't. I think it depends on the woman. For instance someone like me worked really hard for many years bringing up kids and working full time for not a great deal of money (NHS pay is crap but that another thread) so I know the value of not only hard work but money. I know how quick it can all suddenly disappear. I know what it's like to live on a budget. So women like me appreciate how much a client has to pay and how long it may have took him to earn that money.  Others may never have been in that situation so don't realise that all this spare cash they like to waste on shoes and bags that cost more than an average Joes wages can suddenly be gone. Unlike some of us they wont have savings either as they assume there will always be a queue of new men waiting to see them. They have never struggled or budgeted so don't really understand the value of money and think nothing of £100 as its not even an eighth of a pair of Louboutins.

I do believe that is the difference.  It's not realising that some men only bring home £250 a week and have to pay a mortgage and support their family on that so even £50 is a lot of money to them.  It's not understanding clients can disappear very quickly and also not understanding the value of money to others. I do believe it's basically that simple

We seem to have a generation or two of 'I deserve' attitude.  As in they deserve the very best of everything and don't want to have to work for it.  Look how many people want to be on reality TV. Just so they can become 'famous' and have tons of money for doing nothing at all. It's not only in this job though unfortunately. I saw it when nursing with other nurses who didn't want to do the work and would keep disappearing as soon as something needed doing but still expected the money

Offline Marmalade

Of course it is not a nationality thing but can seem as if it is. EEs are often short-term in this country. Like British WGs they may or may not have an incentive to give a good service out of self-respect in their work: BUT they don't have the added incentive of needing to build a good reputation and client base that British (longer-term) prossies do.

Not all prossies that succeed long term achieve it by giving vfm. Some are just very good at marketing.  :rolleyes:

I can think of one or two who came on UKP in the early days -- feminazis who were quickly outed as pure raging CUNTS. For the ones that manage to stay, it is usually their sincerity that convinces. I wouldn't book Dani, probably not my type, but I'd certainly buy her a drink if I bumped into her.

BUT they don't have the added incentive of needing to build a good reputation and client base that British (longer-term) prossies do.
I think a lot see themselves only doing it short term, but often lack the plan to make short term work for them.

It's an easy choice for me. English girls (in London) charge a premium rate so I choose to punt with those who charge a more decent rate which seem to be mostly EE girls.

Pretty much this. In this part of the world you see so many English girls charge more the Eastern Europeans for a poorer service, that it just makes more sense to go with the cheaper option. Poles in particular understand that the key to a successful business is good customer service, and they tend to provide it in spades.

Offline Marmalade

I think a lot see themselves only doing it short term, but often lack the plan to make short term work for them.
I think a lot don't think.

Some of the ones that truly decide to do it short term (many students in this category) also decide to do it well for that period. But the unthinking ones drift into it and keep telling themselves it's short term to make themselves feel better. They have fuck all control over their lives sadly.

Not at all. I'm in the midlands and some are like this and some aren't. I think it depends on the woman. For instance someone like me worked really hard for many years bringing up kids and working full time for not a great deal of money (NHS pay is crap but that another thread) so I know the value of not only hard work but money. I know how quick it can all suddenly disappear. I know what it's like to live on a budget. So women like me appreciate how much a client has to pay and how long it may have took him to earn that money.  Others may never have been in that situation so don't realise that all this spare cash they like to waste on shoes and bags that cost more than an average Joes wages can suddenly be gone. Unlike some of us they wont have savings either as they assume there will always be a queue of new men waiting to see them. They have never struggled or budgeted so don't really understand the value of money and think nothing of £100 as its not even an eighth of a pair of Louboutins.

I do believe that is the difference.  It's not realising that some men only bring home £250 a week and have to pay a mortgage and support their family on that so even £50 is a lot of money to them.  It's not understanding clients can disappear very quickly and also not understanding the value of money to others. I do believe it's basically that simple

We seem to have a generation or two of 'I deserve' attitude.  As in they deserve the very best of everything and don't want to have to work for it.  Look how many people want to be on reality TV. Just so they can become 'famous' and have tons of money for doing nothing at all. It's not only in this job though unfortunately. I saw it when nursing with other nurses who didn't want to do the work and would keep disappearing as soon as something needed doing but still expected the money

I have to say: I think Dani is awesome.  :thumbsup:

Offline GreyDave

average Joes wages can suddenly be gone. Unlike some of us they wont have savings either as they assume there will always be a queue of new men waiting to see them. They have never struggled or budgeted so don't really understand the value of money and think nothing of £100 as its not even an eighth of a pair of Louboutins.

I do believe that is the difference.  It's not realising that some men only bring home £250 a week and have to pay a mortgage and support their family on that so even £50 is a lot of money to them.  It's not understanding clients can disappear very quickly and also not understanding the value of money to others. I do believe it's basically that simple

We seem to have a generation or two of 'I deserve' attitude.  As in they deserve the very best of everything and don't want to have to work for it.   

( end of dani`s quote)

I and others completely agree :)  I usally do walk ups at 20 quid a pop or half hours at 40 quid all with non UK girls. The last time I shagged a very good english big titter was 1/2 hour for £80 :scare: it was really 20mins so there`s the rub VFM some weeks being selfemployed work is dead..nothing or jobs get put back for a lot of us 80 quid is a chunk of cash ..EE girls know this a lot better than uk girls :drinks:

Tony Montana

I think the Polish work ethic extends to more than WGs.  The "Polish Plumber" was a phrase coined for a guy who would come in and do decent work for a fair price whereas the British equivalent would shake his head, suck air through his teeth and then give you a silly quote if he got back to you at all.


I think the Polish work ethic extends to more than WGs.  The "Polish Plumber" was a phrase coined for a guy who would come in and do decent work for a fair price whereas the British equivalent would shake his head, suck air through his teeth and then give you a silly quote if he got back to you at all.

Ain't that the truth.

Hawkwind71

Sorry again guys but I'm a latecomer to this thread and just catching up with what is current thinking.
Since I joined, UKP has basically demolished three of my four pillars of punting.

1 THEN : Pay 200 to 300 for a booking                            NOW: 140 maximum
2 THEN : Pay for 2 or 3 hrs so you can chat, get to know   NOW: Pay for an hour and get down to business
3 THEN : Book a week or so ahead                                 NOW : Call only on the morning of the date

Now it seems my last sacred pillar must fall
4 THEN : Only see British girls cos they are safe and clean  NOW : See Polish and Czech cos they offer best rates/Service

My head is spinning.
My only concern is how you decide if the EE is pimped or not

Online smiths

Sorry again guys but I'm a latecomer to this thread and just catching up with what is current thinking.
Since I joined, UKP has basically demolished three of my four pillars of punting.

1 THEN : Pay 200 to 300 for a booking                            NOW: 140 maximum
2 THEN : Pay for 2 or 3 hrs so you can chat, get to know   NOW: Pay for an hour and get down to business
3 THEN : Book a week or so ahead                                 NOW : Call only on the morning of the date

Now it seems my last sacred pillar must fall
4 THEN : Only see British girls cos they are safe and clean  NOW : See Polish and Czech cos they offer best rates/Service

My head is spinning.
My only concern is how you decide if the EE is pimped or not

1 No idea why you thought of spending £200-300 for a booking as minimum amounts.
 2 Why you thought you had to get to know a WG, its punting not dating, a good WG will offer a complete stranger who she has just met a good service, by its nature that's her task if she isn't a low life.
 3 Depends how you punt, some punters for example have to plan ahead due to their availability, personally I don't know a fortnight next Tuesday whether I would fancy a punt or not.
4 No idea why you thought Brit WGs were safe and clean, that of course depends on the WG as ever, and what makes a good WG is her attitude NOT where she comes from, not just Czechs and Poles. IMO its not wise to just listen to the rants of some on here about WGs, read reviews as well and you will see WGs of countless nationalities offer good and bad service, its all about locating the good ones obviously which your local review board can hopefully help with.

As to WGs being pimped, literally any WG COULD have a pimp and you wouldn't know it unless they tell you, loads of WGs choose to work for a pimp, always have, that includes every WG who works at a parlour/brothel or agency. Being forced to be a WG against their will is of course an entirely different matter and up to the police too catch those evil people who force women.

Hawkwind71

1 No idea why you thought of spending £200-300 for a booking as minimum amounts.
 2 Why you thought you had to get to know a WG, its punting not dating, a good WG will offer a complete stranger who she has just met a good service, by its nature that's her task if she isn't a low life.
 3 Depends how you punt, some punters for example have to plan ahead due to their availability, personally I don't know a fortnight next Tuesday whether I would fancy a punt or not.
4 No idea why you thought Brit WGs were safe and clean, that of course depends on the WG as ever, and what makes a good WG is her attitude NOT where she comes from, not just Czechs and Poles. IMO its not wise to just listen to the rants of some on here about WGs, read reviews as well and you will see WGs of countless nationalities offer good and bad service, its all about locating the good ones obviously which your local review board can hopefully help with.

As to WGs being pimped, literally any WG COULD have a pimp and you wouldn't know it unless they tell you, loads of WGs choose to work for a pimp, always have, that includes every WG who works at a parlour/brothel or agency. Being forced to be a WG against their will is of course an entirely different matter and up to the police too catch those evil people who force women.

Smiths, I admire and respect all you say. I think I maybe wasn't quite as clear as I intended. I was explaining how I was, not how I am now. I completely agree with your synopsis. I was explaining how UKP has changed my perspective for the better and how wrong I was before. I was green, I wanted to do the right thing, I was fluffy, it was all nonsense. It takes a site like this to take the cotton wool out of your eyes and I think it proves its worth. Your explanation of how wrong I was about EE's was what I wanted and now I am done.    :hi:

Online smiths

Smiths, I admire and respect all you say. I think I maybe wasn't quite as clear as I intended. I was explaining how I was, not how I am now. I completely agree with your synopsis. I was explaining how UKP has changed my perspective for the better and how wrong I was before. I was green, I wanted to do the right thing, I was fluffy, it was all nonsense. It takes a site like this to take the cotton wool out of your eyes and I think it proves its worth. Your explanation of how wrong I was about EE's was what I wanted and now I am done.    :hi:

I thought you were VERY clear in your post, I understood you were posting about then and now, its good to hear UKP has helped. :thumbsup:

Hawkwind71

Sorry one last point. I do now read all reviews. Thats how I now create my hotlist. I no longer listen to rants. Again I was showing how a site like this changes your whole mindset. I had it all wrong, mea culpa. My HL was decimated but now its so cool and will be even better when I top it off with some good quality foreign ladies.   Thanks again

Offline vt

Sorry one last point. I do now read all reviews. Thats how I now create my hotlist. I no longer listen to rants. Again I was showing how a site like this changes your whole mindset. I had it all wrong, mea culpa. My HL was decimated but now its so cool and will be even better when I top it off with some good quality foreign ladies.   Thanks again

I'd second what smiths said about it doesn't matter where the girl is from, it's her individual attitude to the job and her clients that is crucial to the punter experience.

I've met girls of dozens of nationalities inc. many British and various EEs and had good & indifferent from all of them...no single nationality has a monopoly on either good or indifferent service...even Romanians!  :D


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