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Author Topic: Unacceptable Time Wasting Tricks  (Read 11008 times)

Offline mattylondon

Well theres got to be a degree of give and take. VFM does'nt neccessarily mean 100% effort is required. How many of us put 100% effort into our work irrigardless of what we earn PH. I challenge anyone to admit they they work full on a solid 60mins of any hour.
If a WG spends 10mins of your time on the phone or having a fag thats taking the piss but it would be the exact same thing if anybody did that during working time.
However getting annoyed because she gets up to switch on some music, puts the money in another room or even takes a minute to go and get a drink is just being a tosser.
The more comfortable/relaxed she feels the better the service you'll get.
What one punter finds acceptable and is comfortable with can be completely different. Prostitution is a profession is it? Said who? Yes, prostitution involves providing a service, but I challenge you to compare prostitution with any profession?!!   :rolleyes:

Yes, prostitution is about providing a service but to say it's a profession and compare it with those examples is clearly palable nonsense and doesn't stand up to close scrutiny. For a start, professions always involve a degree of training, usually accompanied by a recognised qualification at the completion of that training and tend to be subject to either some kind of regulartory body or recourse of action, in the event of unprofessional behaviour by that individual. Prostitution falls well. short in any of those categories.

Prostitution. A profession? A prostitute requires...

1. Requires no formal training - any body can attempt to do it and earn money.
2. No recognised qualification - no standardised quality of service
3. Isn't subject to any regulatory body or official standards.
4. No legal recourse of action or money back for a punter who receives a poor service.

Shall I go on?....  :rolleyes:

I'm afraid that when I punt, I expect 100% attention the whole duration of the booking. I do not compare it to a profession, where the aim is to get the job done as quickly and cheaply as possible. 10 minutes here or there engaging in time wasting chit chat, a massage and the rest is completely unacceptable and I don't stand for it. And I can quite happily fuck for a solid 30 minutes or hour and do, mixed in with other sexual services. This is an expensive past time which I enjoy, but I ensure that I get every last drop out of my punt.  :hi:
« Last Edit: March 09, 2012, 09:39:58 PM by mattylondon »

Offline mattylondon

Simply put. There's absolutely no comparison with any profession that I know.  :hi:

Offline adindas

3) THE ONE THAT PISSES ME OFF THE MOST! When she just talks and talks and talks to kill time, you can't get a word in edgeways! All you're thinking is please STFU!

This is the easiest one to solve. Tell her you want to do business now and you prefer to talk later ....

Offline adindas

I seen a porn star a few weeks ago at £175ph and for the last 15mins I was sat watching her having a fag :( I'd already cum 3 times though so it's not that bad but I knew I could have got another one in if she'd been up for it.

You are very strong Chezzie John  ;)

Offline adindas

Wear a watch and when you take it off to punt if you do take it off like i do ensure the WG sees you looking at the time and then put it on the side and if like me you have breaks between rounds ensure she sees you pick it up and look at it. I always do this with newbies to me and very rarely get any problems with punts being cut short. All your doing is looking at the time, no good WG should object to that. ;)

Good tactic and etiquette. But there is still a drawback as some people might forget their watch. This could be quite significant if it is an expensive wristwatch ....

Certainly people could always come back but at there is a problem as she might not open the door as she is busy serving the client.

Cheap watch such as those available from the street vendors for £5 might do but some people do not want to look cheap when come to making love ...


Offline gari54

What one punter finds acceptable and is comfortable with can be completely different. Prostitution is a profession is it? Said who? Yes, prostitution involves providing a service, but I challenge you to compare prostitution with any profession?!!   :rolleyes:

Yes, prostitution is about providing a service but to say it's a profession and compare it with those examples is clearly palable nonsense and doesn't stand up to close scrutiny. For a start, professions always involve a degree of training, usually accompanied by a recognised qualification at the completion of that training and tend to be subject to either some kind of regulartory body or recourse of action, in the event of unprofessional behaviour by that individual. Prostitution falls well. short in any of those categories.

Prostitution. A profession? A prostitute requires...

1. Requires no formal training - any body can attempt to do it and earn money.
2. No recognised qualification - no standardised quality of service
3. Isn't subject to any regulatory body or official standards.
4. No legal recourse of action or money back for a punter who receives a poor service.

Shall I go on?....  :rolleyes:

I'm afraid that when I punt, I expect 100% attention the whole duration of the booking. I do not compare it to a profession, where the aim is to get the job done as quickly and cheaply as possible. 10 minutes here or there engaging in time wasting chit chat, a massage and the rest is completely unacceptable and I don't stand for it. And I can quite happily fuck for a solid 30 minutes or hour and do, mixed in with other sexual services. This is an expensive past time which I enjoy, but I ensure that I get every last drop out of my punt.  :hi:

Ok swap the word proffesion for 'Job' then.
You think a road sweeper, or a shelf stacker, painter, cleaner or a model or many other manual unskilled labour 'jobs' require any more degree of training? I dont see people getting a certificate in sweeping or shelf stacking and yet they are jobs.

So you walk through the door and without uttering a word (timewasting) the WG (who should already be naked, no timewasting undressing) has to immeadiatly drop to her knees and blow you, and for the next 60mins she has to focus solely on nothing but pleasuring you like some kind of sex terminator?
« Last Edit: March 10, 2012, 10:31:36 AM by gari54 »

Offline mattylondon

Ok swap the word proffesion for 'Job' then.
You think a road sweeper, or a shelf stacker, painter, cleaner or a model or many other manual unskilled labour 'jobs' require any more degree of training? I dont see people getting a certificate in sweeping or shelf stacking and yet they are jobs.

So you walk through the door and without uttering a word (timewasting) the WG (who should already be naked, no timewasting undressing) has to immeadiatly drop to her knees and blow you, and for the next 60mins she has to focus solely on nothing but pleasuring you like some kind of sex terminator?
Yes, I'll agree with you on the word 'job'. They are clearly not 'professionals', in any way, shape or form. Prossies provide a service, so job is a perfectly acceptable term, even if most of them don't pay any taxes, but that could be solved by regulating the business. Easier said than done, mind you and filled will all sorts of moral complications. If you'd described it as a job originally, my response would have been much more in agreement with you. :drinks:
« Last Edit: March 10, 2012, 10:46:15 AM by mattylondon »

Offline AnthG

For a start, professions always involve a degree of training, usually accompanied by a recognised qualification at the completion of that training and tend to be subject to either some kind of regulartory body or recourse of action, in the event of unprofessional behaviour by that individual. Prostitution falls well. short in any of those categories.

Prostitution. A profession? A prostitute requires...

1. Requires no formal training - any body can attempt to do it and earn money.
2. No recognised qualification - no standardised quality of service
3. Isn't subject to any regulatory body or official standards.
4. No legal recourse of action or money back for a punter who receives a poor service.

Shall I go on?....  :rolleyes:
The same can be said for school dinner ladies but they still get called a profession; I said school dinner ladies as I used to have a friend whose mother was one and it needed no training or anything else whatsoever - maybe nowdays it possibly does, and probably a CRB MI5 check on you but in the 80s and 90s nada.

Offline con-a-ser

1) You hand over the cash, she goes to stash it away and disappears for 5 or 10 minutes! That eats into your time!

2) Goes to get you a drink and disappears for several minutes! Another cheap trick!

3) THE ONE THAT PISSES ME OFF THE MOST! When she just talks and talks and talks to kill time, you can't get a word in edgeways! All you're thinking is please STFU!
4) You call 5 mins before your booking to get the address, she says something like "I'm just getting ready for you, I'll call you back in a few mins". Your booking is for 1pm, but she calls you a 1:05pm, it takes you another 5 mins to get to the address, but the clock is already ticking, you've lost 10 mins and the punt has not even begun!

I have a technic I use to great effect to avoid this time wasting tactic
I stick my cock in her gob

Offline mattylondon

The same can be said for school dinner ladies but they still get called a profession; I said school dinner ladies as I used to have a friend whose mother was one and it needed no training or anything else whatsoever - maybe nowdays it possibly does, and probably a CRB MI5 check on you but in the 80s and 90s nada.
Sorry, but that's complete and utter nonsense. Never in my whole life have I ever heard a school dinner lady being termed a professional?!  :D

And even so, the work they do is still subject to regulatory standards and there are sanctions, if they provide a poor service, such as getting the sack or legal action, in the event of negligence, such as food poisoning! If I catch an STD from a prossie, can I take her to court then?! If an indie prossie delivers a very poor service and rips me off, what legal recourse do I have? The only prostitutes that get booted are those who work in brothels and such like. Indies don't get sacked or struck off, mores the pity, as they're self employed and don't fall under any regulatory standards. There's no comparision between a prostitute and a professional. You'll have to do a lot better than that!
« Last Edit: March 10, 2012, 11:51:18 AM by mattylondon »

Offline AnthG

There's no comparision between a prostitute and a professional. You'll have to do a lot better than that!

Gardener?

Offline Miss A Squires

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Sorry, but that's complete and utter nonsense. Never in my whole life have I ever heard a school dinner lady being termed a professional?!  :D

And even so, the work they do is still subject to regulatory standards and there are sanctions, if they provide a poor service, such as getting the sack or legal action, in the event of negligence, such as food poisoning! If I catch an STD from a prossie, can I take her to court then?! If an indie prossie delivers a very poor service and rips me off, what legal recourse do I have? The only prostitutes that get booted are those who work in brothels and such like. Indies don't get sacked or struck off, mores the pity, as they're self employed and don't fall under any regulatory standards. There's no comparision between a prostitute and a professional. You'll have to do a lot better than that!

There was a situation where a girl took her boyfriend to court for giving her herpes. Can't remember if it was deemed some form of bodily harm so if you really wanted to and it was a serious non treatable STD you could.

Offline con-a-ser

There was a situation where a girl took her boyfriend to court for giving her herpes. Can't remember if it was deemed some form of bodily harm so if you really wanted to and it was a serious non treatable STD you could.

I thought if it was a serious STD ie Aids or hep C it comes under man slaughter
I seem to recall a man was given a life sentence as she had infected 5 women knowing she had HIV

well a quick google came up with this
http://current.com/groups/law/88889998_man-convicted-of-spreading-hiv-sentenced-to-18-years-in-prison.htm

Offline mattylondon

There was a situation where a girl took her boyfriend to court for giving her herpes. Can't remember if it was deemed some form of bodily harm so if you really wanted to and it was a serious non treatable STD you could.
This is hair splitting, isn't it? Yes, I'm aware of that particular case and I'm pretty certain that a criminal offence will exist, where intent is proven. Silverado would be much better placed to comment on the law than I and it's a very interesting topic to talk about on it's own merits. :unknown: I also seem to remember a German case recently, involving AIDS.

However, neither of these real life examples has anything to do with a complete lack of a regulatory framework for prostitution. Your example above involves intent, which will have legal ramifications. What if I was infected by a prossie, simply on the basis that she didn't take care of herself to carry out regular checks at the GUM clinic? How will I obtain legal satisfaction if she was unaware? If prostitution was truly professional, involved training, with a recognised qualification and was subject to a regulatory framework, she'd probably be duty bound, rather than morally bound, to conduct regular health checks or be struck off, so to speak!

So my point regarding 'professions' is that they tend to fall under some regulatory framework, a set of defined or expected stanards and sanctions apply where a member is found to be in breach of those standards. Prostitution isn't a profession for the very simply reason that it falls far short of the recognised tests as a profession. I've no doubt that you provide your services in a thoroughly professional manner, judging by all your positive feedback, but that doesn't make you a recognised professional in the wider sense of the word.   :hi:
« Last Edit: March 10, 2012, 12:25:00 PM by mattylondon »

Offline mattylondon

Definitions of a profession:  :hi:

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/profession
a paid occupation, especially one that involves prolonged training and a formal qualification: his chosen profession of teaching

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profession
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/profession

Offline mattylondon

Gardener?
A job, but not a profession, in my book. No formalised training or qualification is required, for a regular gardener, other than displaying aptitude and vocational experience? A landscape gardener may be a slightly different matter, requiring a great deal of vocational skill and perhaps recognised qualifications, but again I'm not talking about them, rather, I'm saying that prostitution, in my eyes, doesn't pass the litmus test of a recognised profession. It doesn't even come close. Any woman can attempt to do it. Some succeed in making money, many others fall by the wayside. If you honestly believe that prostitution is a recognised profession, then we shall have to agree to disagree.  :)
« Last Edit: March 10, 2012, 12:41:18 PM by mattylondon »

Offline AnthG

Definitions of a profession:  :hi:

a paid occupation, especially one that involves prolonged training and a formal qualification: his chosen profession of teaching

Ok, so its not a profession. Then I am curious what people would classify it is?

Is it a hobby? a trade? or something else.

When I say what people would classify I don't mean insultingly so. I mean what is the correct term it would come under? And I think a gardener would be similar to an escort as I remember when I was 14 I was doing the gardens for £5 a time of a few people in my neighbourhood. If I did a terrible job of one persons there was no comeback.

*Edit* Posted at same time

Offline mattylondon

Ok, so its not a profession. Then I am curious what people would classify it is?

Is it a hobby? a trade? or something else.
I think Gari and I said a job, even though I think that's still very questionable. My view would be this:

a person, typically a woman, who engages in sexual activity for payment.

Another interpretation, probably closer to Gari's, which I could still live with would be:

the practice or occupation of engaging in sexual activity with someone for payment

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/prostitution
http://www.wordreference.com/definition/prostitute
« Last Edit: March 10, 2012, 12:55:59 PM by mattylondon »

Offline Ali Katt

Good tactic and etiquette. But there is still a drawback as some people might forget their watch. This could be quite significant if it is an expensive wristwatch ....

Certainly people could always come back but at there is a problem as she might not open the door as she is busy serving the client.

Cheap watch such as those available from the street vendors for £5 might do but some people do not want to look cheap when come to making love ...
The other thing is it is more difficult to walk if you don't have your possessions on you.

Offline Miss A Squires

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This is hair splitting, isn't it? Yes, I'm aware of that particular case and I'm pretty certain that a criminal offence will exist, where intent is proven. Silverado would be much better placed to comment on the law than I and it's a very interesting topic to talk about on it's own merits. :unknown: I also seem to remember a German case recently, involving AIDS.

However, neither of these real life examples has anything to do with a complete lack of a regulatory framework for prostitution. Your example above involves intent, which will have legal ramifications. What if I was infected by a prossie, simply on the basis that she didn't take care of herself to carry out regular checks at the GUM clinic? How will I obtain legal satisfaction if she was unaware? If prostitution was truly professional, involved training, with a recognised qualification and was subject to a regulatory framework, she'd probably be duty bound, rather than morally bound, to conduct regular health checks or be struck off, so to speak!

So my point regarding 'professions' is that they tend to fall under some regulatory framework, a set of defined or expected stanards and sanctions apply where a member is found to be in breach of those standards. Prostitution isn't a profession for the very simply reason that it falls far short of the recognised tests as a profession. I've no doubt that you provide your services in a thoroughly professional manner, judging by all your positive feedback, but that doesn't make you a recognised professional in the wider sense of the word.   :hi:

Wasn't splitting hairs - more just trying to say if you wanted to, you probably could take her to court if a STD was caught. If she was unaware of her sexual health and passing STD willy nilly, could it not be something like gross negligence? Would interesting to see if there have been any cases anywhere.

And bless, i'd never dream of calling myself a professional with regards this - its certainly not a profession in my view, it's a job, for all the reasons already pointed out.

Offline mattylondon

And bless, i'd never dream of calling myself a professional with regards this - its certainly not a profession in my view, it's a job, for all the reasons already pointed out.
I'm quite touched to be on the receiving end of blessings from a prossie. :rolleyes: Especially somebody who has been on the end of Pascal's (of Ben Dover fame) cock, as I think the guy's a star! I've watched your vid and liked it, even if I think you still have much to learn about the gonzo scene! :D Mind you, there are things you could provide for me that would be a lot more useful than your blessings. Of course, we'd have to arrive at an accommodation on those expensive rates of yours first! PM me and we can talk about it. :crazy:

PS And what's with all the feet pics?!  :D
« Last Edit: March 10, 2012, 02:17:06 PM by mattylondon »

Offline smiths

Good tactic and etiquette. But there is still a drawback as some people might forget their watch. This could be quite significant if it is an expensive wristwatch ....

Certainly people could always come back but at there is a problem as she might not open the door as she is busy serving the client.

Cheap watch such as those available from the street vendors for £5 might do but some people do not want to look cheap when come to making love ...

Making love, thats for the deluded punters in my opinion, for me i punt for sex not to make love.

If a punter is that bothered just buy a £5 watch for punting only so at least he can monitor the time, if any think having such a cheap watch makes them look cheap thats up to them, simple solution, dont foget your watch before leaving the SPs premises, i never had that i can recall.

Offline smiths

I'm quite touched to be on the receiving end of blessings from a prossie. :rolleyes: Especially somebody who has been on the end of Pascal's (of Ben Dover fame) cock, as I think the guy's a star! I've watched your vid and liked it, even if I think you still have much to learn about the gonzo scene! :D Mind you, there are things you could provide for me that would be a lot more useful than your blessings. Of course, we'd have to arrive at an accommodation on those expensive rates of yours first! PM me and we can talk about it. :crazy:

PS And what's with all the feet pics?!  :D

I have met Pascal White aka the bonking Belgian a number of times, he was loved up with the lovely then Kelly Marina, a minor porn actress who was working at LMP at the time. He came across as a nice bloke then.

Online Jimmyredcab

Making love, thats for the deluded punters in my opinion, for me i punt for sex not to make love.


Quite right, you make love to a girlfriend or wife, you have sex with a prostitute, better not to blur the lines.

Offline mattylondon

I have met Pascal White aka the bonking Belgian a number of times, he was loved up with the lovely then Kelly Marina, a minor porn actress who was working at LMP at the time. He came across as a nice bloke then.
Pascal is an absolute legend in Gonzo and from what I've seen of him, he seems a pretty decent guy, so glad that you could back that up.  ;)


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