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Pdubz

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Went for a work do a few days ago...conversations were held then bam someone brings up sugar daddies which led to talks about prostitution and wg's...now where i work there are some beautiful ladies all happily in a relationship/married/kids.

I felt super uncomfortable about the whole thing as 99% of the talk was negative, everyone just kept laughing at the men who pay for sex, how they actually feel deluded that wg actually care for them and how they must be lonely and the fact that wg's laugh behind the punters backs.

Now im pretty young and i felt super embarrassed by the whole thing one of my colleagues phrases "paying for sex sucks out your soul" and another one "you must be a 1/10 to pay for sex", although i haven't punted for nearly two months now, this whole fiasco has questioned me of ever returning.

Has this ever happened to anyone else, i even thought one of the guys clocked i was feeling hot under the collar or maybe i was feeling paranoid.

Offline smartieshouse

Hi

Having been in many a busy parlour over the years experience has shown me they are full of ordinary / normal guys like me or you.

Offline cueball

The ones who make the most noise are the ones with most to hide.

We all pay one way or another

Offline leatherlover

The ones who make the most noise are the ones with most to hide.

We all pay one way or another

Exactly. Seeing a WG is just a more efficient use of time and capital. I wonder if you could even say that WGs save marriages, as a man not getting any is less likely to leave his wife if he is seeing a WG?

Offline smartieshouse

Or from another perspective its someone just recounting the media stereotype of the paid sex scene. All punters wear a dirty mac and all WGs are all drug addled "fallen women"

Jamesmadden

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Or from another perspective its someone just recounting the media stereotype of the paid sex scene. All punters wear a dirty mac and all WGs are all drug addled "fallen women"

This!

I'm in my mid twenties and I have good career, workout and take good care of myself. I punt due to the ease of meeting hot women with no strings attached. Real life dating is awful these days far too much effort and time wasted.

I've even turned down potential relationships as I enjoy punting for now...


Hyperchicken

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The vast majority of people who aren't involved in sex work will take pity on and look down upon WGs and punters. Fuck 'em. Like smartieshouse says they're going off an outdated and ill-informed judgement of the situation.

Offline daveev

when guys and girls get together like that, they are all the same, would love to be like you but make out its a sin, all the guys will be sneaking on porn sites thinking i want them, you're having them so you should be laughing.

Offline cueball

As all the replies so far are saying the same thing.....

We know better

Offline Cuntminion

Went for a work do a few days ago...conversations were held then bam someone brings up sugar daddies which led to talks about prostitution and wg's...now where i work there are some beautiful ladies all happily in a relationship/married/kids.

I felt super uncomfortable about the whole thing as 99% of the talk was negative, everyone just kept laughing at the men who pay for sex, how they actually feel deluded that wg actually care for them and how they must be lonely and the fact that wg's laugh behind the punters backs.

Now im pretty young and i felt super embarrassed by the whole thing one of my colleagues phrases "paying for sex sucks out your soul" and another one "you must be a 1/10 to pay for sex", although i haven't punted for nearly two months now, this whole fiasco has questioned me of ever returning.

Has this ever happened to anyone else, i even thought one of the guys clocked i was feeling hot under the collar or maybe i was feeling paranoid.

Thought you were holidaying


Not be honest I don't really feel ashamed of anything I do whatever it is, whether that's a good thing I don't know

If I was in the same boat I probably would of fronted them up on it and challenged them, fuck em

I wouldn't of tried to sell them the idea but I would of taking great pleasure in shooting down their views


HornyByNature

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It's why I am thinking of quiting, i don't feel good any more of paying for sex.

theGOAT

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This!

I'm in my mid twenties and I have good career, workout and take good care of myself. I punt due to the ease of meeting hot women with no strings attached. Real life dating is awful these days far too much effort and time wasted.

I've even turned down potential relationships as I enjoy punting for now...
If I'd realised how good it is to punt I'd have started sooner.  But not in my twenties - seriously chap, finding a good partner is much better at that age - falling in love, free sex, getting married, having a family, etc. 

Early forties is a good time to start punting - when the kids get older and the wife starts to go off the idea of sex. Reborn biker and reborn fucker - that's me! :yahoo:

Cheers!  :drinks:

Offline Dime

Many people are surprisingly quite ignorant about the topic and conform to stereotypes i.e WGs being drunk, poorly educated women who hang about street corners. However, many girls who escort are well-educated (e.g students looking to earn extra cash) who live a double life. I punt because I'm 23, don't have a girlfriend and have my sexual needs, which IMO there is nothing wrong with. A regular WG said her punters ranged from 18 to mid 60's.

Offline Cuntminion

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Ndubz

I'm gonna address this now from your position from what I know of your posting

Visiting wg's is never going to be socially accepted in day to day society people always find a group to look down on to make themselves feel better

If your completely at ease with what your doing someone else's opinion should not matter, so the question here is did the subject matter strike a nerve on a social or personal level

To do anything to the fullest you have got to be at ease with it

You seem to be punt crazy one week then verging quitting the next

Sit down have a good old think what you want and go from there, a swathe of forum opinions may cloud your judgement more

Offline daveev

If I'd realised how good it is to punt I'd have started sooner.  But not in my twenties - seriously chap, finding a good partner is much better at that age - falling in love, free sex, getting married, having a family, etc. 

Early forties is a good time to start punting - when the kids get older and the wife starts to go off the idea of sex. Reborn biker and reborn fucker - that's me! :yahoo:

Cheers!  :drinks:
yes find a girl friend get married and a mortgage, do it twice, lose two houses and then private rent, fuck that carry on punting, wish id done it as a young guy, be better off now

Pdubz

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thanks for all the comments

lets see how i feel after holiday  :hi:

Hyperchicken

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If a bunch of mugs at work questioning an alternative lifestyle choice in a manner that is fairly common amongst the general public is enough to make you consider changing your lifestyle then you probably aren't that committed to it anyway.

As an experienced punter that sort of shit shouldn't be enough to blow you off course.
« Last Edit: August 01, 2015, 11:27:06 pm by Hyperchicken »

Offline Gordon Bennett

Why do you assume all those people at your do are all in wonderful relationships having tons of sex? I reckon a lot of the antipathy directed at punters/prossies derives from fact that the detractors are in crap and sexless relationships. Stuff what they say and just go ahead and please yourself however you like and pay no need to tripe spouted by Ill informed idiots..... It's your life and you should just damn well please yourself. Any sensible, mature adult would have no problem with two people having discreet and consensual paid for sex - there's something wrong with folks who have a problem with it.

Pdubz

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I do enjoy punting, dont get me wrong its been fun.

I guess il always feel like this, given my age,  i should get back to civvy dating.

also the feeling when some wg's provide a better service to favourable punters also has annoyed me today


Offline leatherlover

Also, with punting, you get anal, facials, and CIM. These are not usually services provided at home, unless you're really lucky. But if you are not feeling it, don't do it.

Jamesmadden

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As an experienced punter that sort of shit shouldn't be enough to blow you off course.

Exactly. You need to have self confidence in yourself. That kind of talk from the general public is expected as prostitution has this bad image painted by the media.

The men saying that sort of stuff about punting probably fantasise about banging 10/10 women, big boobs etc like they see in porn movies but can't as they probably get rejected at the bars, clubs etc by these cock tease women. The punter on the other hand, fucks these type of women on tap only for a small financial remuneration  :cool: with no strings attached afterwards.

The women against punters are just worried that prostitution will take their power to tease and reject guys. Those same woman are probably hypocrites by expecting men to pay for drinks, dinner movies, gifts etc before putting down.

I'm now less concerned about hot women and their teasing nature as I can bang one within minutes of a making a phone call. The end result is that i've become less focused on chasing hot women and focused on my career which has improved my financial status.

Offline Jerboa

This is usual BS that's spouted by the un-informed public, them in their marriages, and we know marriage is the oldest form of legal prostitution, recently a mate of mines wife decided she wants out, he will sell the house, and be left with a couple of grand!  :angry:

password02

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Matey don't listen to the others at work - Do your own thing and let them all talk - As others have said being married is a paid form of prostitution one way or another -

At the end of the day we ALL pay for sex - some do it as a form of punting and others do it differently

Carry on until YOU decide to stop - But then it will be difficult

 :hi:

Rod trotter

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Paying for sex has many ups n downs, it can be a minefield.

If your single then its a no brainer, if you wanna do it then why not? However dont lose sight of the pitfalls as well as the kinky stuff they can provide if ya married/attached like an STD. Together with shit punts, horrible premises , smelly cunts, druggies it can be a wank thing to get involved in.

There's massive risk to all attached punters both health and personal life if getting found out so never lose sight of that, the ease at which you can fuck a young hotties throat can be very temting at the same time.so yes its a mirky world is punting and its not for the faint hearted ok.

Offline Marmalade

Went for a work do a few days ago...conversations were held then bam someone brings up sugar daddies which led to talks about prostitution and wg's...now where i work there are some beautiful ladies all happily in a relationship/married/kids.

I felt super uncomfortable about the whole thing as 99% of the talk was negative, everyone just kept laughing at the men who pay for sex, how they actually feel deluded that wg actually care for them and how they must be lonely and the fact that wg's laugh behind the punters backs.

Now im pretty young and i felt super embarrassed by the whole thing one of my colleagues phrases "paying for sex sucks out your soul" and another one "you must be a 1/10 to pay for sex", although i haven't punted for nearly two months now, this whole fiasco has questioned me of ever returning.

Has this ever happened to anyone else, i even thought one of the guys clocked i was feeling hot under the collar or maybe i was feeling paranoid.


Just join in and say, "Yeah, dirty bastards!!"

When you find out someone else at work visits prossies, you can both enjoy being "lucky dirty bastards" (since no-one else presumably knows).

 :D :D :D

What, exactly, is wrong with being a dirty bastard for half an hour once a week? Fuck all.

What's wrong with being a cunt, with denying your physical needs, having a life of frustration, cutting yourself off from the double-backed beast? Quite a lot actually. Lady Macbeth kept washing her hands to cleanse herself of the guilt of being a fucking cunt. She was a dirty cunting bastard in the moral sense. Not physically. Soap didn't wash her guilty away. Whereas a bit of lux soon sorts out any punting aroma.

 :P :P :P
« Last Edit: August 02, 2015, 04:57:44 am by Marmalade »

Offline Clanger

IMO, when you get a lot of people together who hold the same worldview there is always a herd or "groupthink" mentality; an individual will almost always bow to the wisdom of the group, especially if they aren't sure in the first place. However, this does cut both ways; on a forum like this, you've got lots of men together, anonymously, who would all like to believe that paying prostitutes for sexual services is perfectly reasonable, whether that is true or not.

I would say the truth is more nuanced; I would say sometimes it is, and sometimes it isn't, sometimes it depends on the circumstances. I think generally speaking prostitution is okay, but just as some of the WG's are awful people, so are some of the men who use them, it's never all good or all bad. And I think a dose of reality is important; frankly I think some posters on this forum delude themselves that their favourite prostitutes are their girlfriends and that they share a special friendship with them. The reality being that no, she's not your girlfriend and she's having sex with you because you are paying for it, not because she wants to have sex with you; if she happens to enjoy it then that's great, but she won't be calling you anytime soon to ask you over for a "freebie".

You are her customer, and the best relationship you can have with a prostitute is like the relationship you might have with your hairdresser; you can get on friendly terms with your hairdresser, you might even go for coffee together at that cafe round the corner, but it's still business. Even the best most enthusiastic WG is a service provider, not your friend.

On the other hand, I am an anti-feminist and I think the reality of "real relationships" is that all women want the man to be a provider and protector, which is fine and natural and I have no objection to that at all, but most women are guilty of taking that natural imperative to excess; most women are after your money, they want you to do all the work while they do nothing, they want you to take all the risks, and they want you to change your life around to suit theirs. In short, most women are whores, and sometimes it's better to give your money to an honest prostitute than a dishonest whore.

BTW you might find Sargon Of Akkad's YouTube videos interesting, they're pretty funny too: External Link/Members Only
I disagree with him (And other so-called "MGTOW's") vehemently on a lot of things, in fact I think sometimes he's an arrogant bigot, but he's still well worth listening to for the good stuff. Sometimes he's wrong, but his videos are quite thought-provoking.


So yes, it's important to be able to have a normal romantic and sexual relationship with women, and if you can't mange that then there IS something wrong with you - deal with it. But the flip side is that the world of dating is full of female predators so sometimes it's nice to have sex with no strings attached.

Offline Marmalade

I liked the bit where you tell us that you only punt once a year. I was even wondering if you are maybe a prossie. How many years has the perversion of yours been going on and have you considered having it more frequently like a normal punter??

Offline claretandblue

Pdubz you post this type of thread quite often, as stated above snagging prostitutes is never going to be socially acceptable, you seem to care and worry too much what other people do or think

What did you honestly think your colleagues would say when the conversation turned to this topic ??

Offline Donnie69

I've listened to many people so called happy couple type relationships.

I know one woman who says she never gives her boyfriend a blow-job, and they don't shower before sex!
Doesn't sound so great.

Also another female friend says she would never let her boyfriend tie her up.  Sounds boring.

Also why bother wasting money trying to pick up women in pubs and clubs?  Very expensive waste of time in most cases.  Just stick with punting, which is good as long as you find good WGs.

creweboy23

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I've listened to many people so called happy couple type relationships.

I know one woman who says she never gives her boyfriend a blow-job, and they don't shower before sex!
Doesn't sound so great.

Also another female friend says she would never let her boyfriend tie her up.  Sounds boring.

Also why bother wasting money trying to pick up women in pubs and clubs?  Very expensive waste of time in most cases.  Just stick with punting, which is good as long as you find good WGs.
well said Donnie69.....you can spend far more in a pub/club at week ends trying to "get fixed up" with a girl...and..actually not getting past first base!!!..yes its about finding the right working girls...hence the reason we are all members of this site...to hopefully give us that information!!

Offline shagbambi

Hi P.  At the end of the day only you can make your decision on whether or not you wish to continue punting.  I come from a family that punts, all males across all generations do.  As I have this skewed background I think punting is very normal.  I think that men that do not punt are repressed or have no libido or are pussy whipped.  We live in a society that panders to women's sensitivities which is why all your colleagues think that only losers punt.  Or this what they say in public, after all at least 8% of men will admit to having seen a prostitute in the UK.  In the southern Europe this figure is closer to 50%.  See below,

External Link/Members Only

PS.  I am "normal".  I have an other-half of numerous years, always had numerous pretty girlfriends, and can pick up women if I choose to.  However punting gives me a true no strings attached release.  Which is what I want.  You need to ask yourself what do you want?

vw

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People laugh at and ridicule what they don't understand or fear has come to take something of theirs.

Much like racism is the fear of the unknown, someone stealing your job ect.

Punterism is the same, a true misunderstanding as well as fear the escorts have come to take their husbands.

Punterism the last minority not protected by any laws.

Homosexual, heterosexual, transsexual all ok but paidsexual gets ridiculed.

I'am a proud paidsexual.

Type_O_Negative

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I do enjoy punting, dont get me wrong its been fun.

I guess il always feel like this, given my age,  i should get back to civvy dating.

also the feeling when some wg's provide a better service to favourable punters also has annoyed me today

What do you mean?

Offline Cuntminion

I do enjoy punting, dont get me wrong its been fun.

I guess il always feel like this, given my age,  i should get back to civvy dating.

also the feeling when some wg's provide a better service to favourable punters also has annoyed me today

The whole favourable thing you should bear in mind that's your perception and someone else telling their story cut through the bluster and its prob similar


Offline leatherlover

The whole favourable thing you should bear in mind that's your perception and someone else telling their story cut through the bluster and its prob similar

Couldn't agree with you more. Maybe I'm just cynical, but I go to get sucked and fucked by a reasonably hot and clean woman, and as long as that happens and the technique is good, fuck small talk, smiles etc.

Offline Cuntminion

Couldn't agree with you more. Maybe I'm just cynical, but I go to get sucked and fucked by a reasonably hot and clean woman, and as long as that happens and the technique is good, fuck small talk, smiles etc.


That's why in a review I never review outside the service advertised compared to received

Nothing is more problematic than a review that's mentions stuff like staying over time (happens a lot) the reviewer may be overjoyed but should keep that private and similar stuff

Next customer may not happen them they feel all hard done by


Stuff like that is not a given, review logically

fredpunter

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Went for a work do a few days ago...conversations were held then bam someone brings up sugar daddies which led to talks about prostitution and wg's...now where i work there are some beautiful ladies all happily in a relationship/married/kids.

I felt super uncomfortable about the whole thing as 99% of the talk was negative, everyone just kept laughing at the men who pay for sex, how they actually feel deluded that wg actually care for them and how they must be lonely and the fact that wg's laugh behind the punters backs.

Now im pretty young and i felt super embarrassed by the whole thing one of my colleagues phrases "paying for sex sucks out your soul" and another one "you must be a 1/10 to pay for sex", although i haven't punted for nearly two months now, this whole fiasco has questioned me of ever returning.

Has this ever happened to anyone else, i even thought one of the guys clocked i was feeling hot under the collar or maybe i was feeling paranoid.

you know what they say may be true of some punters but by no means all - we know it too - so why do you care?

I have occasionally thought I must be a mug to pay for it - but then every now and again some civvy woman makes it clear she's interested in "getting to know me better" (and also the odd stripper has too) and I run a mile at the thought of the complications, the commitment and the expense!!! (potential divorce from missus, which I don't want to do anyway, never mind entertaining the new one).

As someone said, those who criticise most loudly are probably already doing it themselves or wish they were.       

Offline Jeff_withpetersen

I'm not sure why their opinion should influence your assessment of yourself as a punter - I assume you must've known most people think this before you started punting?

 There are segments of the population that would go much further than what your colleagues said and state that 'all prostitutes are trafficked', 'all punters are essentially rapists' etc. Would that have you made you feel worse? Your self-reflection on this shouldn't really be influenced by what others thing.

 FYI, I strongly suspect they are right that most WGs don't care about punters and do laugh at them - a cursory glance of SAAFE confirms the fact that at least some do! Doesn't stop me punting as I'm there for a transaction, what they think of me or what random people think of punters in general is of only secondary consideration.

willmo1

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With all the fanny out there young guys shouldnt be paying for sex. Neither proud nor ashamed myself but if i was getting it for free im fucked if Id pay for it as well. get ou t there and do the chase thing which was half the fun for me.

bristolqwerty

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I'm 27 a pretty successful/busy professional/happy/contented.  What are the chances of me finding hot Asian girls? Keeping a hot Asian girl as a long term GF?  Finding the variety of hot Asian girls, skinny, tall, short, giggly, stroppy, cold, sensual and super good at sex, elegant, kind.  This way I can try many different girls, respectfully of course.
To think of the other shite things I can waste my money on.  I think if you are happy and content in doing this then what's the issue.  I don't see escorts when I'm seeing someone, just not ready to settle down yet, happy to keep trying the taste of the orient, not every punter is a seedy guy in a long mack, I tend to find the escorts I see as charming and interesting people,that's why I usually book 1, 1.5 or 2 hrs depending on the initial chemistry.  Good luck in your search buddy  :hi:  as long as I can afford it and it doesn't eat into my finances negatively or causes me emotional harm I'm happy, in fact I think I mentioned on another thread I am happy and contented due to this hobby.  How many guys have met some of the beautiful Asian girls I have met, albeit as a client of theirs.

Offline Jerboa

I'm 27 a pretty successful/busy professional/happy/contented.  What are the chances of me finding hot Asian girls? Keeping a hot Asian girl as a long term GF?  Finding the variety of hot Asian girls, skinny, tall, short, giggly, stroppy, cold, sensual and super good at sex, elegant, kind.  This way I can try many different girls, respectfully of course.
To think of the other shite things I can waste my money on.  I think if you are happy and content in doing this then what's the issue.  I don't see escorts when I'm seeing someone, just not ready to settle down yet, happy to keep trying the taste of the orient, not every punter is a seedy guy in a long mack, I tend to find the escorts I see as charming and interesting people,that's why I usually book 1, 1.5 or 2 hrs depending on the initial chemistry.  Good luck in your search buddy  :hi:  as long as I can afford it and it doesn't eat into my finances negatively or causes me emotional harm I'm happy, in fact I think I mentioned on another thread I am happy and contented due to this hobby.  How many guys have met some of the beautiful Asian girls I have met, albeit as a client of theirs.

Where do you find these hot Asian girls?

bristolqwerty

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On AW. I scrutinise their AW reviews and believe everything I read.... :sarcastic:  ok I use my active imagination and sometimes close my eyes....  Have seen quite a few attractive Asian girls before I knew about this site. 

Pdubz

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comaminion your 100% right mate, i read into reviews too much and shall refrain visiting here for a while

Offline Cuntminion

With all the fanny out there young guys shouldnt be paying for sex. Neither proud nor ashamed myself but if i was getting it for free im fucked if Id pay for it as well. get ou t there and do the chase thing which was half the fun for me.

My online death clock said i will be dead by 30 so I'm not wasting my twighlight years chasing over expecting, under appreciating girls round chain pubs only to go home with a kebab when I really wanted a kfc but the queue was too long


Those nights are behind me when I can see an awesome beautiful reg at a mutually agreeable time
« Last Edit: August 02, 2015, 09:36:49 pm by comaminion »

Offline Cuntminion

comaminion your 100% right mate, i read into reviews too much and shall refrain visiting here for a while

That's not the answer you will only end up like martymcfly standing on the edge of a skyscraper , ten k in the hole on badger baiting bets and comparing your lack o f a foursome to Ghandi underachieving

  forum, read reviews without comparing it to what you didn't get, act less emotionally and more logically


You can avoid a problem but it only manifests itself and you take it with you

Pdubz

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What do you mean?

Its just i feel that some certain punters think they manage wgs, im not talking about pimps, but some punters like us think they can control wgs just because they see them a awful lot more.

Anyways enough of that, this website has given me a massive headache and some unnecessary stress today, going to enjoy the rest of my holidays and come back when the time is right.

Ciao for now.

Neal69

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Bugger me,,

Don't you guys over think things?

N

Pdubz

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yup^ and thats the problem

gona go with the flow and go with the "i dont give a shit anymore"

Offline nike

I'm 27 a pretty successful/busy professional/happy/contented.  What are the chances of me finding hot Asian girls? Keeping a hot Asian girl as a long term GF?  Finding the variety of hot Asian girls, skinny, tall, short, giggly, stroppy, cold, sensual and super good at sex, elegant, kind.  This way I can try many different girls, respectfully of course.
To think of the other shite things I can waste my money on.  I think if you are happy and content in doing this then what's the issue.  I don't see escorts when I'm seeing someone, just not ready to settle down yet, happy to keep trying the taste of the orient, not every punter is a seedy guy in a long mack, I tend to find the escorts I see as charming and interesting people,that's why I usually book 1, 1.5 or 2 hrs depending on the initial chemistry.  Good luck in your search buddy  :hi:  as long as I can afford it and it doesn't eat into my finances negatively or causes me emotional harm I'm happy, in fact I think I mentioned on another thread I am happy and contented due to this hobby.  How many guys have met some of the beautiful Asian girls I have met, albeit as a client of theirs.

Good post. I can spend my money how I like.  All these people who are looking down on punters are just hypocrites

Offline nike

People who are married or in relationships pay for it as well and not just in money.  This way you pay ur money and take the pleasure,  exactly how you like it, without having to worry about whether ur other half is enjoying it. 
« Last Edit: August 02, 2015, 11:56:28 pm by nike »