Escorts getting greedy

[AnthG]

If your punting decisions are based on the business model of WG'S rather than whether you think they'll be a good punt or not I'm wondering if you're punting for the right reasons.

I frankly couldn't give a shit how a WG arrives at a price or if she advertises elsewhere for more as long as I got a decent punt at a price I was willing to pay.

In my opinion it shows she possess an attitude that I do not like.

You get to know very little about WGs prior to booking them. You see a photo, some stats and if you are lucky a brief description on her AW profile. Its not enough to form a judgement on them to decide whether to book.

The fact that she is at worst conning punters due to her own shortfalls, or at best just very stupid at numbers management makes it a very good way to assess both her personality and possible attitude to this job. And both are ones that I would want to avoid her for.

[AnthG]

30 minutes is degrading. Industry should ban it. 1 hour minimum.

What do people do in 30 mins that they don't do in an hour booking?

[Quesadilla]

In my opinion it shows she possess an attitude that I do not like.

You get to know very little about WGs prior to booking them. You see a photo, some stats and if you are lucky a brief description on her AW profile. Its not enough to form a judgement on them to decide whether to book.

The fact that she is at worst conning punters due to her own shortfalls, or at best just very stupid at numbers management makes it a very good way to assess both her personality and possible attitude to this job. And both are ones that I would want to avoid her for.

Fair enough - for me it's enterprising.  She is not putting all her eggs in one basket ie AW or an agency - she recognises that punters may come from either source and have a different price expectation. That's neither conning punters nor dumb just good business sense in my view.

As has been covered in other threads here some punters prefer to use an agency while many prefer AW. That's the punters perogative and a wg would be dumb to exclude either audience. The agency sets their rate and she will set her rate on AW based on what she thinks punters will pay. Either she gets the aw price right or she gets a dusty phone. 

[greychap]

I think the main point behind the title of the post is mainly for those girls that charge higher independent then with an agency and in all fairness in other areas of the country especially London if you work for other agencies or are independent you must be the same price all over otherwise an agency would remove you from the site.

I know why a lot of the girls do this its because there not really happy with clearing £70 £60 for the hour with an agency so want to make it up on the money with there independent fee.

A lot of the girls use an agency to build up there punters for there independent work and then either fuck off the agency or reduce it to just 1 day a week or even less then that.

So in other words I can see why they do this but it does not look good that they have different prices for the same service and a lot of them know its more difficult to book through the cheaper price as they work more independent!!!

[greychap]

What do people do in 30 mins that they don't do in an hour booking?

Its just a more relaxed time together depending what you want to get out of your booking, for example if I was having an outcall I would hate 30 mins I usually prefer at least 90 mins.

[MagpieJohn]

Problem was greychap that the guy was being a complete ass and suggesting that 30 minute bookings were degrading and should be banned

[greychap]

Problem was greychap that the guy was being a complete ass and suggesting that 30 minute bookings were degrading and should be banned

I know I read the thread with what he/the troll said!

[pierrot]

What do people do in 30 mins that they don't do in an hour booking?

I'll irritate you then because I only ever book 2 hours, in which time I would hope to come twice.
But I live on my own and enjoy the more relaxed intimate atmosphere I get from this time.
 

[OldAdmin]

I'll irritate you then because I only ever book 2 hours, in which time I would hope to come twice.
But I live on my own and enjoy the more relaxed intimate atmosphere I get from this time.

I also used to book 2 hours, then over time it became 1 hour, and then reduced to 30min punts for new girls and 1hr or longer if I've seen them before.

Too much money to risk on 2 hour punt for a girl I've never seen before.

[greychap]

I also used to book 2 hours, then over time it became 1 hour, and then reduced to 30min punts for new girls and 1hr or longer if I've seen them before.

Too much money to risk on 2 hour punt for a girl I've never seen before.

Longer bookings can be really good with the right girl but its safer on an outcall to do 1hr with a chance of extending if you have never met the girl before just incase you don't get on or there is something wrong with her and then she wont want to hand back any money after she gets her claws on it

[smiths]

I think the main point behind the title of the post is mainly for those girls that charge higher independent then with an agency and in all fairness in other areas of the country especially London if you work for other agencies or are independent you must be the same price all over otherwise an agency would remove you from the site.

I know why a lot of the girls do this its because there not really happy with clearing £70 £60 for the hour with an agency so want to make it up on the money with there independent fee.

A lot of the girls use an agency to build up there punters for there independent work and then either fuck off the agency or reduce it to just 1 day a week or even less then that.

So in other words I can see why they do this but it does not look good that they have different prices for the same service and a lot of them know its more difficult to book through the cheaper price as they work more independent!!!

I agree with most of this except I have over the years punted with some WGs in London as Indies who were more through their Agency, and some were different prices at different agencies.

[Tiger63]

I prefer a 30 mins booking the 1st time I see a wg. However if she is charging £60 for 30 mins or £90 for an hour,I`ll probably pay the extra and take the hour.
£60 for 30 mins is the most I would pay though and if a wg was more expensive then I just move on.

[pierrot]

Too much money to risk on 2 hour punt for a girl I've never seen before.

I can appreciate that but I do tend to pick very well reviewed girls, although I havent really seen any one different for about a year, Iv been seeing the same girl pretty much once a month throughout that period.
Which is something Ive never done before.

[greychap]

I agree with most of this except I have over the years punted with some WGs in London as Indies who were more through their Agency, and some were different prices at different agencies.

Yes you can get different prices but I know a lot of agencies can be funny if they find out your else where cheaper as a lot of punters who know about it will go for the cheaper option. I have had this happen when I have used agencies in the past in London and seen the same girl cheaper else where and commented to agency regarding it and they have said they did not know and are not pleased so either get rid of girl for not being upfront or change there price to cheaper.

I have even seen a couple of websites in past have written on site that you wont see them cheaper else where but if you do come across it let the agency know as they have a policy when booking girls so depends where you go I suppose.

[smiths]

Yes you can get different prices but I know a lot of agencies can be funny if they find out your else where cheaper as a lot of punters who know about it will go for the cheaper option. I have had this happen when I have used agencies in the past in London and seen the same girl cheaper else where and commented to agency regarding it and they have said they did not know and are not pleased so either get rid of girl for not being upfront or change there price to cheaper.

I have even seen a couple of websites in past have written on site that you wont see them cheaper else where but if you do come across it let the agency know as they have a policy when booking girls so depends where you go I suppose.

Yes well that's some pimps for you. Its up to a WG where she works and what she does, an agency if taking a cut of her fees as they do of course is breaking the law by controlling prostitutes for gain so I would tell them to go fuck themselves. A WG isn't an employee of course, she is self employed and as such should be free to work as she pleases.

[greychap]

Yes well that's some pimps for you. Its up to a WG where she works and what she does, an agency if taking a cut of her fees as they do of course is breaking the law by controlling prostitutes for gain so I would tell them to go fuck themselves. A WG isn't an employee of course, she is self employed and as such should be free to work as she pleases.

Wether the girls are self employed or not these agency pimp owners like to control usually as much as they can get away with and weaker girls the better for them.

[smiths]

Wether the girls are self employed or not these agency pimp owners like to control usually as much as they can get away with and weaker girls the better for them.

Indeed they do which is why with all its many faults at least WGs now have A/W they can join and be making money virtually straight away without giving a leech a third or more of their fees, A/W charges a third of credits accrued but this wont be anywhere near as much as a pimp of course assuming the WG is offering sex.

[NIK]

Independents incur the own expenses (Advertising, Rents, Photo Shoots, time answering Phones (particularly time wasters) cost of a second phone for business, security, consultants and regular checkups etc. and most of all their Discretion.

My heart bleeds for them.

[AnthG]

Independents incur the own expenses (Advertising, Rents, Photo Shoots, time answering Phones (particularly time wasters) cost of a second phone for business, security, consultants and regular checkups etc. and most of all their Discretion. Agencies does all that and MORE for the girls.

Advertising - its free on AW. Yes you pay a small amount to display your phone number on the days you work, but this is greatly offset by private gallery income.

Rents - They have rent to pay if they work independent or for the agency. The agencies usually make the girl work from her own house.

Photo shoots - rarely do WGs get professional photo shoots. Its usually ones taken with a mobile phonecam that are put on AW. And from topics here on the forum, these types of photos are generally preferred anyway. So no cost there too.

Cost of a second phone - they still need this to work via an agency. They'd be mad to use their regular phone when getting agency bookings as the agency will phone them throughout the day too. And its not really the cost of a second phone anyway. All they need is a second sim and all you need is pay as you go as you will be taking calls from people never making them. So no costs from phone calls. Plus a girl does not need a £600 Iphone. A £10 Pay as you go phone from Asda will and does suffice for taking calls

Consultants and regular checkups - all free at the Gum on the NHS.

Not really any extra costs that I can see from any of that.

[Dimond dave]

Advertising - its free on AW. Yes you pay a small amount to display your phone number on the days you work, but this is greatly offset by private gallery income.

Rents - They have rent to pay if they work independent or for the agency. The agencies usually make the girl work from her own house.

Photo shoots - rarely do WGs get professional photo shoots. Its usually ones taken with a mobile phonecam that are put on AW. And from topics here on the forum, these types of photos are generally preferred anyway. So no cost there too.

Totally agree with you 

Cost of a second phone - they still need this to work via an agency. They'd be mad to use their regular phone when getting agency bookings as the agency will phone them throughout the day too. And its not really the cost of a second phone anyway. All they need is a second sim and all you need is pay as you go as you will be taking calls from people never making them. So no costs from phone calls. Plus a girl does not need a £600 Iphone. A £10 Pay as you go phone from Asda will and does suffice for taking calls

Consultants and regular checkups - all free at the Gum on the NHS.

Not really any extra costs that I can see from any of that.

[vw]

Its just a more relaxed time together depending what you want to get out of your booking, for example if I was having an outcall I would hate 30 mins I usually prefer at least 90 mins.

I usually prefer the longer ones but often do a 30 minute initial then extend for an hour or more if meeting my expectations and can evolve.

[Colston36]

This is the most insane thread.

Are girls "greedy" for wanting to make more money? Does anyone reading this NOT want to make more for what they do? Are punters cheap bastards if they don't want to pay more than a certain amount? Should the government step in and start yet another useless overpaid committee of pompous wankers to debate the matter for 5 years then set a tariff?

Girls charge what they want to charge for what they want to give for however long they choose. Punters pay what they want to pay for what they want for however long they want.

I often find half an hour is enough for my needs, but I'm happily going to pay four times that in a few days because there is a particular lady I want with particular qualities which as far as I can make out most punters don't like.

It's called a free market. Everyone is different. And everyone can choose.

[Rod trotter]

This is the most insane thread.

Are girls "greedy" for wanting to make more money? Does anyone reading this NOT want to make more for what they do? Are punters cheap bastards if they don't want to pay more than a certain amount? Should the government step in and start yet another useless overpaid committee of pompous wankers to debate the matter for 5 years then set a tariff?

Girls charge what they want to charge for what they want to give for however long they choose. Punters pay what they want to pay for what they want for however long they want.

I often find half an hour is enough for my needs, but I'm happily going to pay four times that in a few days because there is a particular lady I want with particular qualities which as far as I can make out most punters don't like.

It's called a free market. Everyone is different. And everyone can choose.

Nobody is really saying anything different tbh, but thanks for that

[daviemac]

This is the most insane thread.

Why revive it then, all the points you raise have been discussed over the 5 pages and left at that.

[AnthG]

This is the most insane thread.

Are girls "greedy" for wanting to make more money? Does anyone reading this NOT want to make more for what they do? Are punters cheap bastards if they don't want to pay more than a certain amount? Should the government step in and start yet another useless overpaid committee of pompous wankers to debate the matter for 5 years then set a tariff?

Think of it this way. If you went to Kwick Fit garage and got some work done on your car like the front right wheel brake shoes replaced. And you pay the Mechanic in the garage £50 for that to be done.

The next week you think I should get the front left brake shoe replaced too. And you see the same Mechanic who did your brakes for you at Kwik Fit walking by your house. So you run out and say, is there any chance you could sometime do the Front Left Brake shoe too. And he said, no problem. That will be £70.

And you ask, it was only £50 last week. And the mechanic says. Its £50 if I do it via the company, or £70 if I do it independently.

Would you go, that's not bad I will pay that. Or would you think. Greedy bastard.

[JIMI1234]

simple, and no need for arguments tbh, they can charge what they want......WE can choose to pay for what WE want.

[/color]

In complete agreement; A free-market economy is based on supply and demand where buyers and sellers are allowed to transact freely (i.e. buy/sell/trade) based on a mutual agreement on price.
The WG advertises her price, and the punter see's it as value for money (and purchases) or doesn't equate value in the offer with the price; and therefore goes elsewhere.

A significant decline in trade volume for the WG may force her to recalibrate her price (ie: drop the price as it becomes obvious she has overpriced her service vs perceived punter value).

You'd have to be an idiot to pass up more £ for the same service offering.

[themademan2]

Think of it this way. If you went to Kwick Fit garage and got some work done on your car like the front right wheel brake shoes replaced. And you pay the Mechanic in the garage £50 for that to be done.

The next week you think I should get the front left brake shoe replaced too. And you see the same Mechanic who did your brakes for you at Kwik Fit walking by your house. So you run out and say, is there any chance you could sometime do the Front Left Brake shoe too. And he said, no problem. That will be £70.

And you ask, it was only £50 last week. And the mechanic says. Its £50 if I do it via the company, or £70 if I do it independently.

Would you go, that's not bad I will pay that. Or would you think. Greedy bastard.

I'm in full agreement on here, people coming on this thread like guy before spouting economics and free market trade, missing the fact that certain lasses having dual pricing policies which describe what you mentioned ...

You can't get better than a kwikfit fitter 

[Mansell]

As has already been said the NE has some strong Agencies that set the price, currently £ 50 / 30 mins and £ 100 / hr so this is the going rate in the NE. But stupidly for that you can get an absolutely shite experience or a brilliant one ( in fact some of the very best girls charge this). Now that seems like it's great for us NE Punters.

BUT We have lost some really great girls this year, with others coming and going. So if we insist on banging on and giving any of the Great WG's a hard time for raising their prices, then don't be surprised if they pack up. At the end of the day this is just a business, but it's like division 1 Football for the WG's they have a limited time to make the big money !!!

I don't see anybody complaining about Brooke Knight's prices, just that they can't get a booking !!! and she's £ 150 / hr ( cheap for an overnight mind  )

So I'm with the " It's up to them to set the prices, if they get it wrong the phone won't ring group of replies" But also I don;t like the Dual Prices, but how they get round that with the Agencies I don't know.

[Looking4fun]

If you want to see them you'll pay what they ask or we can promote the agency's that charge less

[JIMI1234]

I'm in full agreement on here, people coming on this thread like guy before spouting economics and free market trade, missing the fact that certain lasses having dual pricing policies which describe what you mentioned ...

You can't get better than a kwikfit fitter 

And don't companies charge different prices based on where they are, etc?
Look at petrol prices on local forecourts v their motorway station...
Dual pricing is a fact of business life... And if a WG wants to have a varying price structure, then, again, that's totally up to her, surely.

[Jamessn]

Not just escorts, agencies get greedy too.

I only do out calls with agencies, unless desparate,  thought about diamonds to give the new bosses a chance. However they charge +£20 extra for an hr outcall that's ok, +£30 for 90 mins, then is +£40 until you get to 6 hrs then it's +£60 and overnight +£100.

Greed or can't do maths? I also see this on AW too

[daviemac]

And don't companies charge different prices based on where they are, etc?
Look at petrol prices on local forecourts v their motorway station...
Dual pricing is a fact of business life... And if a WG wants to have a varying price structure, then, again, that's totally up to her, surely.

The whole point that people are making is that there is no difference in location, service or prossies expenditure, just about 40 to 50% more as an independent than through the agency.

Would you be happy if I could get fuel cheaper than you at your local petrol station just because I knew of a site that told me I could.

It's been said many times the best ones charge the same as the agency's do and are happy to pocket the commission they save.

At the end of the day they can charge what they like just as I can call them greedy when they go over the top

[themademan2]

The whole point that people are making is that there is no difference in location, service or prossies expenditure, just about 40 to 50% more as an independent than through the agency.

Would you be happy if I could get fuel cheaper than you at your local petrol station just because I knew of a site that told me I could.

It's been said many times the best ones charge the same as the agency's do and are happy to pocket the commission they save.

At the end of the day they can charge what they like just as I can call them greedy when they go over the top

Perfect response

[JIMI1234]

The whole point that people are making is that there is no difference in location, service or prossies expenditure, just about 40 to 50% more as an independent than through the agency.

Would you be happy if I could get fuel cheaper than you at your local petrol station just because I knew of a site that told me I could.

It's been said many times the best ones charge the same as the agency's do and are happy to pocket the commission they save.

At the end of the day they can charge what they like just as I can call them greedy when they go over the top

No change of location yeah, but they might be skint and/or desperate so decide to boost their coffers.... a normal policy if they can get away with it... I'm sure we would all do the same - more money for the same job.

And you're correct; you CAN call them greedy... I just look at the price and that thought never enters my head. I either think, yep, she's worth it and book - or no, she's not, and don't.