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Offline MagpieJohn

Personally when I look at an AW profile and think WOW she hot the first thing I do is scroll down to her nationality, if she's not Romanian then I look at the rates.

£100 to £120 I think fine. £150 I think, move on. Having said that if the girl was asking £70 or £80 an hour I'd probably think, why so cheap? move on there must be something wrong with her.

Offline rthunderbird

Personally when I look at an AW profile and think WOW she hot the first thing I do is scroll down to her nationality, if she's not Romanian then I look at the rates.

£100 to £120 I think fine. £150 I think, move on. Having said that if the girl was asking £70 or £80 an hour I'd probably think, why so cheap? move on there must be something wrong with her.

Yeah I think £100 for an hour is fair and doesn't necessarily speak for the quality. Any less and I think there must be something wrong, if it is £110-£120 I will look up reviews and try and gauge whether or not it will be worth it. £150+ and their reputation essentially has to be flawless, any discrepancies or anything that I like off the menu then its a no.

Offline The_Don

Recently, I've noticed a few girls starting to get greedy by upping prices. I'm not an advocate of this and would avoid, but some of you guys are willing to pay the extra. One lass has caught my attention in she thinks she's worth more cos clients say she worth it  :unknown:

I always tell the lasses I see not to let the money get to their heads, but some people don't know how to remain humble. I do like the finer things in life, but also like value for money.

What's your take on this fellow members? Surely a lass can't expect to charge more when she ain't providing any more than she use to :thumbsup:

I said before, it up to the W/G what price she set/charges. Some punters will pay, others will not and move on.

pierrot

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When I first started my average punt in the North west was £50 in todays money that would be £111.
By the year 2000 I was a lot more flush and would pay £250 for a 2 hour punt in todays money that would be £387
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Offline The_Don

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Off topic a bit.

The first time I started to save pocket money was back in 1982 (year of the first twenty pence coin). That what I was given a week back then. Now that would be £0.69p  :D

but some things are out of line with the rest:


Average salary
   
1999:  £18,396  / 2013:  £26,000  / 41%


Unleaded petrol per litre
   
1999: 63.6p / 2013:  132.4p  / 108%

Ford Focus (latest model)

1999: £15,500  / 2013  £13,995  / -10%
   


Offline TallPaul

Off topic a bit.

The first time I started to save pocket money was back in 1982 (year of the first twenty pence coin). That what I was given a week back then. Now that would be £0.69p  :D

but some things are out of line with the rest:


Average salary
   
1999:  £18,396  / 2013:  £26,000  / 41%


Unleaded petrol per litre
   
1999: 63.6p / 2013:  132.4p  / 108%

Ford Focus (latest model)

1999: £15,500  / 2013  £13,995  / -10%

Indeed. I once saved best part of 4 weeks pay to get a VCR
Now you could prob get one for a quid

Quesadilla

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In my experience wgs mostly find the price they are comfortable with which keeps them busy enough. Too busy usually means a drop in consistency / performance so at a certain point the smart ones decide to raise their prices and see if it still flies.

I don't call this greed. They are not performing a public service nor are they charities. This is just business. If they can work less hours for the same money then they'd be dumb not to.

Clearly there is a big difference in what some punters are willing / prepared to pay. For me I've generally had to pay £150ph for a great punt, and the very best I've had was no more than £175ph. So in my mind I have a target for what I expect to pay.

 I know some escorts charge much less but my experience with them is they are either not capable of delivering what I want,  or else are too difficult to book or don't deliver a consistent service.


shengfan

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"I don't call this greed. They are not performing a public service nor are they charities. This is just business. If they can work less hours for the same money then they'd be dumb not to"

There's a couple on here who seem obsessed with this topic, its pretty simple really. There's Mc Donalds and there is The Fat Duck with everything in between. If you don't like the price they charge for the same peice of steak you can get for less than half the price elsewhere then stop moaning about the "greed" and don't fucking go there.

themademan2

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"I don't call this greed. They are not performing a public service nor are they charities. This is just business. If they can work less hours for the same money then they'd be dumb not to"

There's a couple on here who seem obsessed with this topic, its pretty simple really. There's Mc Donalds and there is The Fat Duck with everything in between. If you don't like the price they charge for the same peice of steak you can get for less than half the price elsewhere then stop moaning about the "greed" and don't fucking go there.
And if that same steak is available at 2 different places for different amounts??!! Like missyD £60 for 30 min adultwork or £35 after comms for amour? Work that one out for me mate

Offline smiths

And if that same steak is available at 2 different places for different amounts??!! Like missyD £60 for 30 min adultwork or £35 after comms for amour? Work that one out for me mate

Its greed of course either based on previous experience or hope and punters will either pay or not. The fact is some punters will only punt with so called Indies and not through pimps and some WGs know this and price themselves accordingly.

Offline AnthG

There's a couple on here who seem obsessed with this topic, its pretty simple really. There's Mc Donalds and there is The Fat Duck with everything in between. If you don't like the price they charge for the same peice of steak you can get for less than half the price elsewhere then stop moaning about the "greed" and don't fucking go there.

But that's not the issue. Think of it this way, Mr Jones, walks in and orders a Stake meal from the Fat Duck and the girl behind the counter goes, right you can have this for £40.

Mr Cole walks into the same restaurant and orders the exact same Stake meal and the girl behind the counter goes, right you can have this meal for £20.

Should that first guy just accept this or should he maybe go back and challenge why she is charging him £20 more?

How would Mr Jones feel if he did go back to the counter and ask why is he charging £20 more for the same meal as the other guy, and the girl behind the counter goes, "Fuck off, our stake, our rates, you don't like it, eat elsewhere".

The problem is, the girls that do it, rarely have any justification for it. They also get abusive and aggressive when you comment on it - clearly because they are annoyed we have let the cat out of the bag on it.

I will say of all the times I have raised this, there is only one time has a girl attempted to come up with an attempt at a good justification for it (LilyD) the rest its flying off the handle with abuse.

If a girl can come up with a good justification for her doing it. I actually really want to hear it. But they never even try to come up with one (except for LilyD).
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Offline Sar-Major

I'm assuming on here that some of you guys never get a pay rise and your cost of living is immune from inflation ?

Punting in this region now is probably in real terms the lowest it has ever been, and in many respects the quality has probably suffered to an extent as well.


Yeh I get a meagre pay rise, being capped by the Tory bastards again at 1%. BUT I'm not on £100/140 per hourly rate. If a girl has worked one, 6-8 punter day. That probably equates to 1/3 to 1/2 of my monthly pay in about 12 hours work. I do know they all have "Expenses" to pay out, but we all want VFM. So if the likes of
S-J, Savanah, Keeva, etc. charge £100, why do others need to take our eyes out for more cash and in some instances a sub-standard service.  :angry: :angry: :angry:

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Offline Mansell

It is interesting that all the well respected and recommended WG's charge the same £ 100 / hr ie Tori, Sarah-Jane, Savannah, Keeva etc. you can also get LilyD & Eva for this if you book through the agency assuming they ever have any availability.

So what you guys doing paying more  :scare: I'm sticking with the best  :yahoo:

Offline AnthG

It is interesting that all the well respected and recommended WG's charge the same £ 100 / hr ie Tori, Sarah-Jane, Savannah, Keeva etc. you can also get LilyD & Eva for this if you book through the agency assuming they ever have any availability.

So what you guys doing paying more  :scare: I'm sticking with the best  :yahoo:

It does blow the whole argument that girls are doing it to try and reduce the amount of punters they get as they are so busy.

It makes it more likely that the girls are not getting the amount of punters they want/need at the £100. So up it to £120, and thus are stiffing those poor chaps who book them for £120 on a case of they are booking a girl that couldn't get guys to book her at £100 per hour.

Imagine that in any other business.

E.G Microsoft say, 'right so our XboxOne is not selling as much as the PS4 and not selling like we hoped it would......Right so what we will do is add £20 on the RRP....'.
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Offline foreverchanges

But that's not the issue. Think of it this way, Mr Jones, walks in and orders a Stake meal from the Fat Duck and the girl behind the counter goes, right you can have this for £40.

Mr Cole walks into the same restaurant and orders the exact same Stake meal and the girl behind the counter goes, right you can have this meal for £20.

Should that first guy just accept this or should he maybe go back and challenge why she is charging him £20 more?


Or another scenario Anth could be if Mr Bloggs turns up at the Fat Duck and says to the girl on the counter,
"I'd like your best steak and instead of you charging me £40 seeing as how I'm a journalist for the local rag you give me a free steak and I'll give you a glowing report in my next review!"

How would Messrs Jones and Cole  feel about that if the girl behind the counter agreed?

Offline AnthG

"I'd like your best steak and instead of you charging me £40 seeing as how I'm a journalist for the local rag you give me a free steak and I'll give you a glowing report in my next review!"

How would Messrs Jones and Cole  feel about that if the girl behind the counter agreed?

The problem is, the girl behind the counter would never agree. Its literally fantasy land stuff.

My experience with leaving girls glowing reviews is they usually give me a terrible subsequent booking to say 'thank you' for it. Hence why I keep moaning about third punt syndrome.
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squeezebox

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In general terms I dont think punting prices have increased for around 20 years, Im still paying the same now as I was then.
Rule 1. Never discuss prices with girls, we have just seen an example of what can happen in the North west section when somebody does.
I look at price I make a booking I dont barter or haggle,if I dont like what I get I go elsewhere in future.

I use this same approach when buying a car. I won't negotiate. If the price on the forecourt is £4000, I factor in service history, mileage, warranty, Parkers Guide pricing. If the price is within a reasonable band, and I like the car, I'll buy it.

In short, the analogy is, if she looks hot, within my price band, age and services, I'll pay the advertised price. (It would be nice to test drive her though.. ;))

pierrot

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The problem is, the girl behind the counter would never agree. Its literally fantasy land stuff.

My experience with leaving girls glowing reviews is they usually give me a terrible subsequent booking to say 'thank you' for it. Hence why I keep moaning about third punt syndrome.

I semi agree with you about 3rd punt syndrome, that was certainly my experience with hottyholly I thought she was going to be really good till the 3rd time I visited which was very very average, very dissapointing.

Offline AnthG

I use this same approach when buying a car. I won't negotiate. If the price on the forecourt is £4000, I factor in service history, mileage, warranty, Parkers Guide pricing. If the price is within a reasonable band, and I like the car, I'll buy it.

But you have just gave the worst supporting analogy in history (or were you meaning to do this for humour or something?).

As used car salesmen expect you to haggle and always over price the cars just as a marketing ploy to allow them to 'drop' their price 'just for you'. Its one of the hard sell tricks that causes used car salesmen to be regarded in the way that they are.
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squeezebox

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But you have just gave the worst supporting analogy in history (or were you meaning to do this for humour or something?).

As used car salesmen expect you to haggle and always over price the cars just as a marketing ploy to allow them to 'drop' their price 'just for you'. Its one of the hard sell tricks that causes used car salesmen to be regarded in the way that they are.

I know where you're coming from.

The inference was more about choice/decision making. If the car salesman/prossie don't price the product/service correctly, get greedy, I won't buy it and I'll choose to go elsewhere.

Quesadilla

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And if that same steak is available at 2 different places for different amounts??!! Like missyD £60 for 30 min adultwork or £35 after comms for amour? Work that one out for me mate

You can buy the same shit on Amazon at higher prices than elsewhere - you are paying for the convenience of having everything in one central, reliable place.  Same with Booking.com - go direct to the hotel and you will invariably get the cheapest rate. 

Some people prefer to go through an agency because they (rightly or wrongly) trust the agency, believe the agency has a reputation for quality and hope for a more reliable / consistent service and maybe some come back if there's a problem with their order. 

Or else they may simply not be smart enough to realise they can get exactly the same product cheaper elsewhere.  Either way they are prepared to pay an agency's premium fee - it's not rocket science.  :unknown:

Offline AnthG

Either way they are prepared to pay an agency's premium fee - it's not rocket science.  :unknown:

Its the agency cheaper than going direct.

This is why so many people are pissed off as it shouldn't be.

The agency also takes a third of that cheaper rate too.

Agency booking; £100 for an hour....Girl gets ~£60 of it...Agency gets ~£40

Direct booking with girl for an hour....£120....Girl gets £120.

Girl gets double the money from that exact same booking than what she would via the agency! This is why it pisses off so many punters.

All people want is for the girl to charge £100 per hour...So this still means she gets £40 more per hour than going with the agency...As no agency cut coming off. But the girls in the north east are greedy and are not happy with £40 more. They want to double their money.
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Quesadilla

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It sounds like the same model as with big retail chains acting as buyers then. They have enough clout that they can negotiate the supplier down on the price in exchange for (the hope of) higher volumes of sales.

The wg advertises elsewhere at the price they really want and hopes people don't realise they can be bought cheaper via the agency. 

Still sounds like fairly standard business practice.


Offline AnthG

It sounds like the same model as with big retail chains acting as buyers then. They have enough clout that they can negotiate the supplier down on the price in exchange for (the hope of) higher volumes of sales.

The wg advertises elsewhere at the price they really want and hopes people don't realise they can be bought cheaper via the agency. 

Still sounds like fairly standard business practice.

You are trying to put logic into this when it does not exist.

When a retailer gets a deal for a discount with a supplier. They achieve this buy buying in bulk. As they are a large enough supplier to both afford it and to also sell that much to end customers. And as such there is a bulk discount from that supplier.

Smaller chains cannot buy as much as the larger chains so they don't get a bulk discount and thus have to pass higher costs onto their end customers.

A working girl advertising on an agency at one rate and on adultowork for a higher rate does not compare.

And if there was a reason why for this, then all girls would be doing it and not just a good few.

The simple fact is, they are greedy, plain and simple.
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Quesadilla

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Sorry but it's exactly the same thing. Retailers get away with this all the time. Yes they buy at a bulk rate but often have clauses that protect them if the goods aren't selling. So they are not really buying in bulk but get a discount all the same because the supplier knows they have a better chance of selling if they are on the shelf of a large regional / national chain vs just their own shop window.

Either way the agency is just one sales channel and any supplier is wise not to put all their eggs in one basket.

Offline smiths

You can buy the same shit on Amazon at higher prices than elsewhere - you are paying for the convenience of having everything in one central, reliable place.  Same with Booking.com - go direct to the hotel and you will invariably get the cheapest rate. 

Some people prefer to go through an agency because they (rightly or wrongly) trust the agency, believe the agency has a reputation for quality and hope for a more reliable / consistent service and maybe some come back if there's a problem with their order. 

Or else they may simply not be smart enough to realise they can get exactly the same product cheaper elsewhere.  Either way they are prepared to pay an agency's premium fee - it's not rocket science.  :unknown:

With Amazon it depends on what your buying, i buy CDs off the Amazon site but not from Amazon but from a marketplace seller second hand and many hundreds have cost me 1p plus £1.26p postage, the only place some of those Cds might be cheaper is in Poundland or at car boot sales.

From a lot of experience of booking hotels through various third parties like Olotel, Late Rooms and others and a comparison site like Trivago its more often than not that I can get a better price through the third party than the hotel direct. These third parties block book hotel rooms of course and really want to sell as many rooms as they can to maximise their take of course, and excellent deals can be had when they have rooms they need to sell. One example of this is I got a very nice 4 star hotel in the London area for £35 per night, when I rang the hotel direct as I always do to check what they could offer it was £100 for the night for the same class room. I have also got central London rooms through a third party at 5 star hotels on occasion for £50-60 a night, the hotels own rate was £150-200 a night. Also with Late Rooms the offers on their site can sometimes be bettered by ringing them where they might have the very latest cancellations not yet put online but which they want to sell asap.

Travelodge which sells their own rooms only or mainly direct can be damn expensive if wanting a booking soon but can be the cheapest if booking ahead, I have often got a room off them for about a £10-15 a night. In my experience Booking.com aren't that cheap, I daresay they are for some rooms but not the ones I wanted.

I agree with your Agency summation and equally some punters don't want to punt through pimps so stick with so called Indies only.

Offline AnthG

Sorry but it's exactly the same thing.

???

You've said 5 posts up on this thread when you thought it was the agencies charging more than the independents that its standard practice for agencies to charge more than independents.

Now when you have found out its the other way around. You are now saying its standard practice for independents to charge more than agencies.

It just seems you want to be the different voice to this thread no matter what it is.

No matter what it screams of greediness. If a girl feels her time is worth £120 per hour. And that is staunchly how much she wants on Adultwork. To the extent of throwing a paddy fit for asking for a discount of that rate. Then no way on the face of this earth should this same girl be happy to take half that via an agency booking.

You can try and argue some business analogy for it occurring. But it makes absolutely no sense to me.
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Offline Tiger63

Mr Cole can buy as many steaks as he likes in his new car from whichever friggin shop he wants...the answer will be the same.....if it appears to be too expensive, dont buy....its your choice

Offline The_Don



When a retailer gets a deal for a discount with a supplier. They achieve this buy buying in bulk. As they are a large enough supplier to both afford it and to also sell that much to end customers. And as such there is a bulk discount from that supplier.

Smaller chains cannot buy as much as the larger chains so they don't get a bulk discount and thus have to pass higher costs onto their end customers.



Off topic (I've worked in Customer service, retail, sales, supply chain etc, for over 25+ years)

Not always the case (for smaller re sellers) below are a few examples that I've seen happen.

1) Smaller companies can create a cooperative that works for them.
2) Supplier promotion to shift stock, thus discounts are offered.
3) End of line, Ware house clearances, Liquidation.
4) Grey market imports (even seen a product with a re-label, due to language)
 

Offline smiths

???

You've said 5 posts up on this thread when you thought it was the agencies charging more than the independents that its standard practice for agencies to charge more than independents.

Now when you have found out its the other way around. You are now saying its standard practice for independents to charge more than agencies.

It just seems you want to be the different voice to this thread no matter what it is.

No matter what it screams of greediness. If a girl feels her time is worth £120 per hour. And that is staunchly how much she wants on Adultwork. To the extent of throwing a paddy fit for asking for a discount of that rate. Then no way on the face of this earth should this same girl be happy to take half that via an agency booking.

You can try and argue some business analogy for it occurring. But it makes absolutely no sense to me.

The WG might know she will be guaranteed to be busy all day with an Agency with her punters laid on for her by them so works for them on certain days but also wants to get 100% of her fee so works so called Indie as well.

When working Indie she might know from experience she can charge more than the Agency does and get enough punters or decides to do so and see if she does. If smart she will also know some punters and it could be many don't want to punt through pimps so she cashes in on that and decides to be greedy to make as much as she thinks she can. However, the point is punters will decide if she has a dusty phone or not so if you follow the WGs profile you can see if she cuts her prices which indicates a dusty phone, if she doesn't it indicates she is maybe getting enough punters. This scenario has ALWAYS been the case, its nothing new and happens in London as well with some WGs, in fact some like Michelle Independent charge extra when in London to elsewhere, £10 an hour more in her case.

shengfan

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It's simply not worth the energy stressing/obsessing about something you can do nothing about.

Offline stanleyjohn

It's simply not worth the energy stressing/obsessing about something you can do nothing about.

 :thumbsup:

themademan2

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It's simply not worth the energy stressing/obsessing about something you can do nothing about.
That's where I disagree. Naming the lasses and voting with feet will hit them where it hurts - their pockets.  :cool:

Offline MagpieJohn

Anth.

Just out of curiosity and since no one else seems to be asking, you said earlier in the thread that the only girl who attempted to justify this pricing strategy rather than spewing abuse was LilyD. What was her side of the argument?

Notorious BP

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Noticed a lot of Indys are trying to charge £70 for 30 minutes
30 minutes is degrading. Industry should ban it. 1 hour minimum.

Offline The_Don

30 minutes is degrading. Industry should ban it. 1 hour minimum.


Its down to freedom of choice, to suit all punters  :hi:

themademan2

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30 minutes is degrading. Industry should ban it. 1 hour minimum.
You a escort or something?? :crazy:

Quesadilla

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That's where I disagree. Naming the lasses and voting with feet will hit them where it hurts - their pockets.  :cool:

If your punting decisions are based on the business model of WG'S rather than whether you think they'll be a good punt or not I'm wondering if you're punting for the right reasons.

I frankly couldn't give a shit how a WG arrives at a price or if she advertises elsewhere for more as long as I got a decent punt at a price I was willing to pay.

If I later find her elsewhere cheaper I'd maybe kick myself for not finding the better price earlier but finding her advertising for more elsewhere just reinforces that I got a good deal.  :unknown:

themademan2

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Anth.

Just out of curiosity and since no one else seems to be asking, you said earlier in the thread that the only girl who attempted to justify this pricing strategy rather than spewing abuse was LilyD. What was her side of the argument?

Hi Anth,
Thanks for your message.
As you know, our main method of working is via adultwork. We work the occasional shift with Amour, and rather than seeing it as raising our prices for independent bookings, it is more of a case of we are willing to take less money from agency work because 1. it is less work for us in terms of organising bookings, 2. we do not have to take care of security precautions ourselves as the agency does this for us and 3. the agency manages the advertising on our behalf for these bookings. The time spent on all the above when we are working independly means that we choose to charge £120 / hour for this service, as we believe that is what the service is worth. It is not intended as an insult, and infact I have not recieved a single complaint or been challenged on the price of my adultwork bookings by any of my new or regular clients. If people do not believe that a booking is worth the money I charge I have no problem with this, it is up to clients what they are willing to pay, and by the same token it is up to us to decide what we believe our services are worth. To me, working for an agency and working independent are two very different experiences, and so I price accordingly.
Hope this clears it up a little, please feel free to contact me via pm if you have any further questions.
Thanks
Lily


That was her response. £25 extra for her pockets for a 30 min session  to answer some messages and book customers in, when the adultwork booking system is there for that?!! Wouldn't call that a bright response from a graduate.

Offline NIK

30 minutes is degrading. Industry should ban it. 1 hour minimum.

How can the 'industry' such as it is 'ban it' ?  :wackogirl:

Offline maxxblue

30 minutes is degrading. Industry should ban it. 1 hour minimum.

Please explain.

Notorious BP

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???

You've said 5 posts up on this thread when you thought it was the agencies charging more than the independents that its standard practice for agencies to charge more than independents.

Now when you have found out its the other way around. You are now saying its standard practice for independents to charge more than agencies.

It just seems you want to be the different voice to this thread no matter what it is.

No matter what it screams of greediness. If a girl feels her time is worth £120 per hour. And that is staunchly how much she wants on Adultwork. To the extent of throwing a paddy fit for asking for a discount of that rate. Then no way on the face of this earth should this same girl be happy to take half that via an agency booking.

You can try and argue some business analogy for it occurring. But it makes absolutely no sense to me.

Independents incur the own expenses (Advertising, Rents, Photo Shoots, time answering Phones (particularly time wasters) cost of a second phone for business, security, consultants and regular checkups etc. and most of all their Discretion. Agencies does all that and MORE for the girls.

What is IMPORTANT to the girls is that we (as punters) pay them their hourly rate, be that set by an Agency or the girl herself. What she does with the money we pay her IS NONE OF OUR GOD DAMM BUSINESS as it is out of our appointment time. And to ask for a discount.........how embarrassing, I wouldn't lower myself.

If you want quality YOU PAY FOR IT. If you don't want to pay for quality, then make sure you have regular SDI checks. You decide.

Offline MagpieJohn

Thanks for that MM2

Agreed, but it was very polite

yorkshire123

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30 minutes is degrading. Industry should ban it. 1 hour minimum.

Thanks for that, any opinion of the current increase in the wholesale price of cheese? Fucking liberty if you ask me  ;)

Offline dboy74

30 minutes is degrading. Industry should ban it. 1 hour minimum.

I suppose it is degrading fucking someone for half hour instead of an hour  :wacko:

Offline MagpieJohn

30 minutes is degrading. Industry should ban it. 1 hour minimum.

Personally I don't punt for less than an hour, but many punters prefer a shorter booking as this suits not only their pocket but it can fit in more easily with their non punting life. Almost all escorts offer 30 min appointments so it obviously suits them as well. Therefore any idea of "banning" 30 minute punts would be ludicrous.

Notorious BP

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You a escort or something?? :crazy:

No! But have thought about it. But the thought of old women put me off. Hats off to the girls for the old guys they see.

Frankly I have no idea why you are on here. There's nothing positive about you or your comments. Your av says much about you. Little man trying to be something he can't be.

Notorious BP

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Personally I don't punt for less than an hour, but many punters prefer a shorter booking as this suits not only their pocket but it can fit in more easily with their non punting life. Almost all escorts offer 30 min appointments so it obviously suits them as well. Therefore any idea of "banning" 30 minute punts would be ludicrous.

Being single I want an appointment, not a quickie, which I'm sure most of you can get for free at home.

OldAdmin

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No! But have thought about it. But the thought of old women put me off. Hats off to the girls for the old guys they see.

Frankly I have no idea why you are on here. There's nothing positive about you or your comments. Your av says much about you. Little man trying to be something he can't be.

I'm pretty certain you're previously banned member, I recognize that email address.
That attack on themademan2 adds more weight to the fact you've been here before.
So bye from you. No doubt you'll be back again.

James999

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30 minutes is degrading. Industry should ban it. 1 hour minimum.

What's your problem, cant get it up in 30 mins  :sarcastic: