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themademan2

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Recently, I've noticed a few girls starting to get greedy by upping prices. I'm not an advocate of this and would avoid, but some of you guys are willing to pay the extra. One lass has caught my attention in she thinks she's worth more cos clients say she worth it  :unknown:

I always tell the lasses I see not to let the money get to their heads, but some people don't know how to remain humble. I do like the finer things in life, but also like value for money.

What's your take on this fellow members? Surely a lass can't expect to charge more when she ain't providing any more than she use to :thumbsup:
« Last Edit: July 07, 2015, 10:20:16 am by themademan2 »

shengfan

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"I always tell the lasses I see not to let the money get to their The heads" I honestly do not see what business it is of any punter how the girls view their earnings. Its their business, their body, if you don't like what they charge don't book them and patronising them...well :dash:

themademan2

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"I always tell the lasses I see not to let the money get to their The heads" I honestly do not see what business it is of any punter how the girls view their earnings. Its their business, their body, if you don't like what they charge don't book them and patronising them...well :dash:
Defo there business, but punters shouldn't be egging them on into charging more  :wacko:

I admire Tori Taylor, good pricing strategy, agency and independent and hasn't bunked up fees after all them reviews. That's what I call a good example of staying humble  :hi:

shengfan

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I get that and if they do they lose out they probably end up reducing their prices accordingly, it is a buyers market I agree.

BlackFlag

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It's about self importance and entitlement. Nothing a call to the HMRC wouldn't sort out. Amazes me how many of these girls are one call away from a major tax and ni investigation.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2015, 10:34:03 am by BlackFlag »

Offline AnthG

I honestly do not see what business it is of any punter how the girls view their earnings.

Because we are the ones paying the actual money.

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Offline AnthG

I get that and if they do they lose out they probably end up reducing their prices accordingly, it is a buyers market I agree.

I do not think they do as it becomes a saving face type thing.

If a WG ups her prices, if she suddenly puts them back down again it looks like she is desperate and nobody was booking her at her new rate. A pretty humiliating thing as its effectively downmarking herself. So what they do is they end up quitting the whole business as they couldn't get any business at the new rate. When if they just stopped at the original rate things would have been fine.

Have you ever seen a WG drop her prices back after raising them?
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Looking4fun

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Noticed a lot of Indys are trying to charge £70 for 30 minutes

greychap

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I think this site is mainly for getting the best experience you can at a very affordable price, so it would make more punters careful with how much they spend on an escort as you can see well reviewed girls at a very good price so I would expect a lot of punters that use this site to expect the price of what escorts charge to be very good value and very affordable.

So in a nutshell the punters point of view would always want it cheaper.

But as I have been punting a long time many years ago I think the price has come down and more services being offered now then ever..

If we was all working for an employer and the price stayed the same for twenty years or got cheaper we would all hate it so I don't have a problem with girls putting there prices up as everything goes up with inflation. BUT THIS SITE SPOILS THE PUNTER SO YOU WILL ALWAYS WANT THE BEST EXPERIENCE FOR THE BEST PRICE YOU CAN GET, its human nature.

Lets be honest girls who offer everything for £50 I doubt very much they pay any tax that is why the price is kept low if they were paying tax on there earnings you can bet they would probably be charging £90 for the half hr.

shengfan

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I do not think they do as it becomes a saving face type thing.

If a WG ups her prices, if she suddenly puts them back down again it looks like she is desperate and nobody was booking her at her new rate. A pretty humiliating thing as its effectively downmarking herself. So what they do is they end up quitting the whole business as they couldn't get any business at the new rate. When if they just stopped at the original rate things would have been fine.

Have you ever seen a WG drop her prices back after raising them?


Yes...Billie Piper

shengfan

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It's about self importance and entitlement. Nothing a call to the HMRC wouldn't sort out. Amazes me how many of these girls are one call away from a major tax and ni investigation.


When you give your decorator £150 cash for the job he did, do you then considor or care if he is paying tax or NI and would you shop him too?

greychap

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Must say though the northeast is one of the cheapest agency prices I have seen before I stayed up here I used to punt in London, Southeast, Manchester etc and agencies escort agencies should I say there was no 30 min incall most prices were £150 to £170 for 1hr.

The £50 price companies were the brothel type/massage places and I think whats happened in the north east most of the original companies up here now just disguise themselves as an escort company where there more a incall massage type place but hide under the escort title has the law has toughened up on brothels.

greychap

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Noticed a lot of Indys are trying to charge £70 for 30 minutes

To me that is still a good price but obviously in the northeast and members on here are used to £50 so anyone that charges more would be a lot.

greychap

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I think a lot of punters do have certain views on what girls charge in this industry because a lot of punters don't look at the girls as business people paying tax etc, we know a lot don't pay tax and a lot claim benefits so it pisses some punters off if they up prices if there not contributing to the country.

godhomer

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Recently, I've noticed a few girls starting to get greedy by upping prices. I'm not an advocate of this and would avoid, but some of you guys are willing to pay the extra. One lass has caught my attention in she thinks she's worth more cos clients say she worth it  :unknown:

I don't really understand why guys would tell a WG that she is worth more than she is charging  :crazy: :wacko: do they also go into a garage and say they should charge more for the fuel that they sell ?  :dash: :dash: :dash:

Offline chinatoon

I'm of the view that a girl can charge whatever she wants. It doesn't matter if someone down the street charges half for a better service. It's up to the girl what she charges. I won't go telling girls to up their prices, but I wouldn't tell them they are too expensive either.
Like any business, you charge what you can get away with. When you start charging too much for the service you provide, then people will simply stop coming to you.


shengfan

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I'm of the view that a girl can charge whatever she wants. It doesn't matter if someone down the street charges half for a better service. It's up to the girl what she charges. I won't go telling girls to up their prices, but I wouldn't tell them they are too expensive either.
Like any business, you charge what you can get away with. When you start charging too much for the service you provide, then people will simply stop coming to you.


+1

Offline AnthG

I'm of the view that a girl can charge whatever she wants. It doesn't matter if someone down the street charges half for a better service. It's up to the girl what she charges. I won't go telling girls to up their prices, but I wouldn't tell them they are too expensive either.

This is not the issue that many people are raising though. It is one issue. But the one that annoys so many people in the region. Its not a case of comparing her to girl x down the street who charges less. Its a case of that exact same girl is charging less when working via the agency.

Her work wont dry up as she will always get the business via the agency. But she is conning those booking direct for charging them more - and she often changes name, has different photos and all sorts just to hide the fact that she is doing this.

In my view a girl can charge what she wants. But I should be entitled to say, you are charging too much. But these same girls who want to have the right to up their prices. Flip their lids when you possibly say something like this about them.
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Offline Tiger63

But why would you see a wg if you think she is charging too much?

Offline AnthG

But why would you see a wg if you think she is charging too much?

You may not know she is charging cheaper elsewhere when you do?

I think the goal of the this topic from themademan2 is to stop girls getting greedy in advance of them actually doing it.
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Offline Addicted65

I'm assuming on here that some of you guys never get a pay rise and your cost of living is immune from inflation ?

Punting in this region now is probably in real terms the lowest it has ever been, and in many respects the quality has probably suffered to an extent as well.

In the early days of Internet punting in the late 90's agencies like choice and the girls on Northern Angels were charging around £120 an hour. Probably about the equivalent of £200 an hour today.My first on line punts were with Sassy of Darlington, classy Charlie, Sexy Blond Jade, and the three Rachael's of Choice as well as a couple of the Choice Independants, all of them charged £120 an hour all of them were gorgeous all of them great punts that are remembered as outstanding some 15-18 years later.

Whilst the emergence of new agencies and sites like adultwork introduce competition and drive prices down
a quick search for North East Escorts today on a/w reveals around 50% are Romanians, picture sellers or both. Probably 20-30% are , without sounding disrespectful, not exactly stunners , get poor reviews or operate from premises that I wouldn't park my car near or walk to.

Why then shouldn't the top 20% who take the time to prepare themselves, look after themselves, pay the extra for comfortable, safe and often luxurious premises and most importantly provide a first rate experience have the right to charge a premium. They are the girls who get the good reviews and attract both repeat visits and new punters. Why shouldn't they benefit financially ?

It does often surprise me that the likes of Sarah Jane, Keeva, Tori, Savannah and co charge as little as £100 per hour especially when you compare their looks, services and locations to some of the others?

How many of you guys would turn down the opportunity of a 20% pay rise over your peers on the basis of your efforts at work

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Offline smiths

Recently, I've noticed a few girls starting to get greedy by upping prices. I'm not an advocate of this and would avoid, but some of you guys are willing to pay the extra. One lass has caught my attention in she thinks she's worth more cos clients say she worth it  :unknown:

I always tell the lasses I see not to let the money get to their heads, but some people don't know how to remain humble. I do like the finer things in life, but also like value for money.

What's your take on this fellow members? Surely a lass can't expect to charge more when she ain't providing any more than she use to :thumbsup:

Its up to a WG what she charges but it sure doesn't help when a punter or punters "advise" her to raise her rates which sadly has happened as proved on this forum. These twats are really selfish arseholes in my view. Why not just give a WG what they think she is worth BUT keep it between him and her.

Offline smiths

I don't really understand why guys would tell a WG that she is worth more than she is charging  :crazy: :wacko: do they also go into a garage and say they should charge more for the fuel that they sell ?  :dash: :dash: :dash:

Exactly, of course they don't, its ONLY because its pussy and these twats are cunt struck, some being loved up fluffies who really believe the WG gives a shit about them. :thumbsdown:

Offline smiths

I do not think they do as it becomes a saving face type thing.

If a WG ups her prices, if she suddenly puts them back down again it looks like she is desperate and nobody was booking her at her new rate. A pretty humiliating thing as its effectively downmarking herself. So what they do is they end up quitting the whole business as they couldn't get any business at the new rate. When if they just stopped at the original rate things would have been fine.

Have you ever seen a WG drop her prices back after raising them?

Yes I have, a well known at the time London WG called Seductive Scarlet, she got an avalance of great reviews including mine on another forum and cashed in by putting her rates ups from £100 to a peak of £150 an hour. When I next wanted too punt with her the cheeky bitch said I would have to pay her new rate, no way was I going to do that and seems enough other punters didn't either as her rates went back down a while later to £100 an hour. Over the next few years they were up and down more often than her knickers and she started the bullshit of giving a date she was retiring so come and see me while you can in the hope punters would believe it to be true. It wasn't for about 5 years as she was always retiring before she finally did as far as I know.

I also know of another few London WGs who tried the same but dusty phone syndrome set in and their rates came tumbling down. IF a WG cant make as much money any other way some will put their rates down when they aren't getting enough punters irrespective of losing face in my experiences.

Toshiba

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Recently, I've noticed a few girls starting to get greedy by upping prices. I'm not an advocate of this and would avoid, but some of you guys are willing to pay the extra. One lass has caught my attention in she thinks she's worth more cos clients say she worth it  :unknown:

I always tell the lasses I see not to let the money get to their heads, but some people don't know how to remain humble. I do like the finer things in life, but also like value for money.

What's your take on this fellow members? Surely a lass can't expect to charge more when she ain't providing any more than she use to :thumbsup:



simple, and no need for arguments tbh, they can charge what they want......WE can choose to pay for what WE want.

end of thread?

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Offline MagpieJohn

I agree with everyone who says that girls shouldn't raise their prices on the advice of misguided punters, however, if a girl raises her price by £10 because her rent has gone up for instance then I don't have a problem with that.

Offline AnthG

simple, and no need for arguments tbh, they can charge what they want......WE can choose to pay for what WE want.

We should also have the right and ability to say to the girls that they are charging too much. But this is one of those topics that causes so much offence to people for some reason. And I honestly still don't know why.

There is an epic long thread on Saafe, its one of the longest on there, called "slow at the minute or just me".

Looking at it now there are 4,316 posts on there all WGs non stop moaning about how they aren't getting business and trying to fathom why. Each time not once getting the answer to the problem in all those posts. Reading the thread is almost humorous if it wasn't punters getting the brunt end of their naivety

I can safely say for all 4,316 WGs who have posted in that thread the answer to that is, yes it is you. But the problem is men are not allowed to post on that forum so its just them all sitting there posting saying 'what could be causing this lack of bookings', 'I don't know, maybe in the hot weather men are just going off sex'.

Its one of two things. Your AW profile is terrible, or you are charging too much. Its may not be rocket science. But its still a type of science that WGs honestly don't seem to get.

The other problem is with regards to the WG who have a brilliant reputation, and a brilliant AW profile, and its attractive and all sorts so she ups her prices. And people say she should be entitled to do so. That is fine.

Other girls in the region however don't think to themselves. "Well she does all this extra stuff so this is the reason she charges this extra rate". Nope they just go to themselves "she is charging it, so why can't I?". And come out with a terrible shoddy AW profile. Don't ever answer their phones and all sorts but want the same rate as the other girl.
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OldAdmin

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We should also have the right and ability to say to the girls that they are charging too much. But this is one of those topics that causes so much offence to people for some reason. And I honestly still don't know why.

6 years ago before this site was created on Pro$$ieNet a topic like this also came up, the fluffies and prossies ganged up and lynched any punter who dared to question a price rise. The moderators eventually censored them with pre-mod.

The opposite is going to happen on UKPunting, anyone who tries to kill off this topic will be made history.

Toshiba

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Before this site was created 6 years ago on Pro$$ieNet a topic like this also came up, the fluffies and prossies ganged up and lynched any punter who dared to question a price rise. The moderators eventually censored them with pre-mod.

The opposite is going to happen on UKPunting, anyone who tries to kill off this topic will be made history.

its not a case of censoring them , i just don't see what you can do other than not booking them ?

the price will soon come back down

Offline AnthG

its not a case of censoring them , i just don't see what you can do other than not booking them ?

In my opinion the best thing to do, really the only thing to do, is to post on topics like these on the forum.

As its one of those delicate subjects. As if you message an individual girl on AW to say this to her direct, you risk very likely blowing any chance of a booking.

But general topics like these on the forum where punters can all raise it together, in my opinion is the perfect chance and opportunity to raise it for WGs to take notice.

WGs may still ignore it, they may not. But the fact that its been highlighted, it at least means its there for consideration by them. And a WG will hopefully think hard to herself if she can justify a price hike for little to no reason. As in my opinion without these topics I honestly think WGs will just say to themselves "Punters love me, and its only £20 more per hour, so why not".

I would rather they thought "There is all those topics on the forum about how annoyed it makes punters, so really can I really justify this £20 hike as it will annoy many of my customers".
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Offline Dimond dave

 :rolleyes:

Well personally. If the prices do jump up there are plenty more fish in the sea. Why be ripped off for but greed. 

Offline durhambull

You must realise these ladies are business women. If they work 20 hours a week for 100 an hour and then have a massive waiting list its just good sense to put prices up. In the business I am in we crank up the prices all the time untill we have spaces in our diary. This is the 'Goldilocks zone. '
It makes sense to charge as much as ya can and still keep ya books full.
Personally I'd rather see a lady at standard rate cause I know I might not be her 10th client that day.
  If you can't afford your current favourite move on.

themademan2

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You must realise these ladies are business women. If they work 20 hours a week for 100 an hour and then have a massive waiting list its just good sense to put prices up. In the business I am in we crank up the prices all the time untill we have spaces in our diary. This is the 'Goldilocks zone. '
It makes sense to charge as much as ya can and still keep ya books full.
Personally I'd rather see a lady at standard rate cause I know I might not be her 10th client that day.
  If you can't afford your current favourite move on.
Seems to be double Dutch what you have written  :unknown:

Offline Tiger63

In my opinion the best thing to do, really the only thing to do, is to post on topics like these on the forum.

As its one of those delicate subjects. As if you message an individual girl on AW to say this to her direct, you risk very likely blowing any chance of a booking.

But general topics like these on the forum where punters can all raise it together, in my opinion is the perfect chance and opportunity to raise it for WGs to take notice.

WGs may still ignore it, they may not. But the fact that its been highlighted, it at least means its there for consideration by them. And a WG will hopefully think hard to herself if she can justify a price hike for little to no reason. As in my opinion without these topics I honestly think WGs will just say to themselves "Punters love me, and its only £20 more per hour, so why not".

I would rather they thought "There is all those topics on the forum about how annoyed it makes punters, so really can I really justify this £20 hike as it will annoy many of my customers".
I think what Anth is saying is ....name and shame

infoseeker

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6 years ago before this site was created on Pro$$ieNet a topic like this also came up, the fluffies and prossies ganged up and lynched any punter who dared to question a price rise. The moderators eventually censored them with pre-mod.

Totally true, the first time a fuss kicked up with me on a similar forum was when I dared to advise a new pro$$ie not to increase prices... knives came out!
Pro$$ies in general detest punters giving an opinion on prices.

My opinion is one of the key outputs of the UK Punting forum and in particular the reviewing is to keep competition high which like in any market forces prices down, in this particular market for me that means static prices in nominal terms but which are decreasing in real terms.  That is what has happened in this market for the last decade.


In plainer English prices remaining at the average round figures they are £100 or £120/hour into 2025, every year we are getting more Bang for our Buck.


A problem is if the prices for street drugs like Heroin and Cocaine go up.... then for sure that'll have an upward impact on prices.... with British pro$$ies in particular.  :sarcastic:
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pierrot

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In general terms I dont think punting prices have increased for around 20 years, Im still paying the same now as I was then.
Rule 1. Never discuss prices with girls, we have just seen an example of what can happen in the North west section when somebody does.
I look at price I make a booking I dont barter or haggle,if I dont like what I get I go elsewhere in future.

Offline stanleyjohn

In general terms I dont think punting prices have increased for around 20 years, Im still paying the same now as I was then.
Rule 1. Never discuss prices with girls, we have just seen an example of what can happen in the North west section when somebody does.
I look at price I make a booking I dont barter or haggle,if I dont like what I get I go elsewhere in future.

+1
I first paid £25 and that was well over 30 years ago so I think the prices are very reasonable and it still represents good value but if a WG wants to charge more then so be it. It is a very competitive market and there are plenty of others to pick from.

Offline MasterChief

My way of work is similar to that of an escort, in that I sell my time be it hourly, daily, weekly or monthly. My rates are way more than most others in my field, yes you can go and hire someone cheaper and I could not care less as I will be fully booked regardless. Should I lower my rates to match the lower rates of someone else? Like fuck I will! I am one of the best in my field and I charge accordingly.

Offline portable

I've seen one or two profiles have raised their prices in the past few months, and in one case it's put me off paying them another visit.

To be fair, it could be a sign they are winding down from escorting, and so are doing less hours, charging a little more and are aware that it might put some guys off, but they're winding down so it's not a big deal. However, even if their reasons aren't vanity/greed (i.e. they're just putting their price up for the sake of their ego) it's still off-putting.


Offline Mansell

Dusty phone should sort out the ones who are charging too much.

I just don;t understand the WG's who are on AW cheaper than they are at an Agency that's just crazy to me. But hey name and shame then if their phone stays quiet they will change.

The other bunch are the EE girls and £ 120 an hour, been there once and never ever ever again.

Offline Highlander

My way of work is similar to that of an escort, in that I sell my time be it hourly, daily, weekly or monthly. My rates are way more than most others in my field, yes you can go and hire someone cheaper and I could not care less as I will be fully booked regardless. Should I lower my rates to match the lower rates of someone else? Like fuck I will! I am one of the best in my field and I charge accordingly.

Ooh, get you. I gave you a good review on UKP and it's gone to your head. Well, I for one won't be booking you again until your phone goes dusty and you lower your prices. Regardless of how good you were last time... :P


Offline MasterChief

Ooh, get you. I gave you a good review on UKP and it's gone to your head. Well, I for one won't be booking you again until your phone goes dusty and you lower your prices. Regardless of how good you were last time... :P

LOL No danger of my phone ever going dusty. However I freely admit to being a two faced tight fisted twat, when I was a regular punter I would not pay more than sixty quid for a fuck and if I went to a girl regular no more than fifty. A fuck is just not worth even that never mind any more

Offline Bangers and Gash

I agree with everyone who says that girls shouldn't raise their prices on the advice of misguided punters, however, if a girl raises her price by £10 because her rent has gone up for instance then I don't have a problem with that.

Exactly how much would her weekly rent be going up by to charge every punter an extra tenner? £500?

Considering most pro$$ies are clogging up social housing and claiming a myriad of benefits means any rent increase would be mere pennies.

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Offline MDB72

If a person is selling they are entitled to charge what the market will pay. If people don't like the price they charge then they will buy elsewhere.
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Offline AnthG

If a person is selling they are entitled to charge what the market will pay. If people don't like the price they charge then they will buy elsewhere.

You make it sound like WGs do full advanced market analysis to determine their rates.

When its either a figure picked out of thin air and usually formed from, this other girl charges this, therefore so will I.

Or, I have got a couple of good reviews on UKP, therefore I am worth more for my time now (so much for the whole 'you only pay for my time' argument as if this is the case, there is no reason her time be suddenly worth more just because she has a good couple of reviews here).
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Offline Highlander

I think there are those such as Tori and Sav etc that realise that they will get more bookings and regular return clients at 50 half hour rate = more income overall.

I can think of a couple of girls on 80 half hour rate that don't really want to see loads of guys so a higher rate and less bookings suits them.

Offline Highlander

You make it sound like WGs do full advanced market analysis to determine their rates.

When its either a figure picked out of thin air and usually formed from, this other girl charges this, therefore so will I.

Or, I have got a couple of good reviews on UKP, therefore I am worth more for my time now (so much for the whole 'you only pay for my time' argument as if this is the case, there is no reason her time be suddenly worth more just because she has a good couple of reviews here).

Hmm, just had a thought. I'll look out my old economics text books. When I've finished my market analysis I can present it to the escorts via PowerPoint presentation for a reduction on my next booking.

Just had an amusing mental image of explaining the Gaussian distribution of different pricepoints to a bubblegum chewing Lace Diamonds

Offline MagpieJohn

Exactly how much would her weekly rent be going up by to charge every punter an extra tenner? £500?


I was actually thinking of a particular girl who had to vacate her long time flat due to reasons beyond her control and where she charged £100ph. She then  rented a quayside apartment for a short while and charged £130ph.

Offline rthunderbird

I think the issue of WG's getting so offended is because I think they generally do think that they are providing us with an in-valuable service, that we are just desperate loners who are granted benevolently by them the opportunity to shag them at a price. Whereas to be honest I think most of us are realists, we have our reasons why we do it, but we could live without it.

Thusly we are pragmatic in understanding that first and foremost this is a business and we as the consumer want the best price possible for the best possible service. I think a lot of WG's could do with visting ukpunting and having a look around to understand that we are as understanding of the situation as them and because of that we are going to try and use the services to our advantage. Don't get me wrong there are a lot of WG's who know this (normally the best ones) but I am willing to bet that a lot of WG's (the 20 year old with a false tan who thinks she is God's gift to sex) think we are deluded fools who will pay whatever they ask to get inside them.

I have no problem with price rises as long as their service justifies the price. Most of the time the increase in price for we as consumers is not justifiable hence why we question it. I mean hell look at Tori. Taylor, she is one of the best in the north east (subjectively of course) and yet she charges £100 an hour. Because she knows exactly what her service is worth, she's pragmatic and gets the business.
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