Author Topic: Do we do it for the emotion or physical? With Sex Workers?  (Read 2493 times)

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d00fer

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Prompted by a humorously sarky post from Punk on another thread and johnnyboy61's assurance that this will provide some interesting and thought provoking discussion.

For me personally the answer is a politicians cop out, neither. I punt for my own reasons, there's some emotion and there's definitely plenty of physical, but neither is the prime motivator.

DG

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Definitely physical but it's nice to get a girl where there's a bit of a connection, whether that be emotional or intellectual.

Offline smiths

Prompted by a humorously sarky post from Punk on another thread and johnnyboy61's assurance that this will provide some interesting and thought provoking discussion.

For me personally the answer is a politicians cop out, neither. I punt for my own reasons, there's some emotion and there's definitely plenty of physical, but neither is the prime motivator.


Nowadays I punt solely for the sex and not for emotional reasons, I get that elsewhere. I do know from past experience though that it can be easy to get emotionally attached to a WG but that way is very likely to lead to disaster. And that's why Emotional Attachment Syndrome (EAS) is something to look out for in my opinion.

Offline berksboy

   Pump her money slot and go .Save the other stuff for someone you care about.

Offline Jimmyredcab

I punt because I like girls many years younger than myself --------------- if I tried to chat up a 19 year old civvy she would simply say "fuck off nonce", she would not be wrong.     :hi:

Offline Malvolio

Prompted by a humorously sarky post from Punk on another thread and johnnyboy61's assurance that this will provide some interesting and thought provoking discussion.

For me personally the answer is a politicians cop out, neither. I punt for my own reasons, there's some emotion and there's definitely plenty of physical, but neither is the prime motivator.

For me it's the physical relief - although I like a bit of a chat with whoever I'm seeing it's certainly not worth forking out the cash for on its own.  I'm intrigued as to your prime motivation if it's not one of the two above - do you love taking risks?

Offline nigel4498

I punt because I like girls many years younger than myself --------------- if I tried to chat up a 19 year old civvy she would simply say "fuck off nonce", she would not be wrong.     :hi:
+1 you and me both  :hi:

In my humble opinion, anyone in it for the 'emotion' is on a hiding to nothing.

Offline webpunter

In my humble opinion, anyone in it for the 'emotion' is on a hiding to nothing.
+1   Nice when they do add something to make it seem like its just not for cash.  At least for the odd split second when the punting-brain is experiencing a foggy moment.  The mist soon clears  :sarcastic:

Offline Cuntminion

I don't know why I do it, I went for 7 years without having a physical experience with a female prior to punting, or I could in theory stuck with xhamster forever

I all but given up on an emotional connection with anyone ever


I think my reason for starting was a mound of problems building up I stepped back from it and thought fuck I haven't done this, this or that

I have always had an end of times attitude towards life, but the time is feeling really fucking nigh of late so I'm just working through things I want to do but put off

MrBridger

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I agree with others who say if you're looking for an emotional connection you're saving up trouble for yourself.

I am looking for intimacy as well as the purely physical release. The experience is improved immeasurably for me if I genuinely get on with the girl, believe she's enjoying herself and can establish some form of connection/rapport before, during and after the act, but I would never say emotions are involved.

I've been punting for less than a year and to be honest I've surprised myself with how well I've managed to compartmentalise the different aspects of this game; I have discovered that it is quite possible to be respectful, friendly and even on occasion caring towards these women while recognising their professional boundaries and without ever becoming emotionally attached.


yorkshire123

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I get all of the emotional up's & downs I need at home so it would be pure physical for me.
Fortunately the tide has turned on the physical aspect at home also, thus I haven't punted for over 6 months with only the odd urge to do so that is easily suppressed with the help of the internets main purpose in life. 

Offline johnnyboy61

I agree with others who say if you're looking for an emotional connection you're saving up trouble for yourself.

I am looking for intimacy as well as the purely physical release. The experience is improved immeasurably for me if I genuinely get on with the girl, believe she's enjoying herself and can establish some form of connection/rapport before, during and after the act, but I would never say emotions are involved.

I've been punting for less than a year and to be honest I've surprised myself with how well I've managed to compartmentalise the different aspects of this game; I have discovered that it is quite possible to be respectful, friendly and even on occasion caring towards these women while recognising their professional boundaries and without ever becoming emotionally attached.
I totally agree with you Mr B.

I also can't see how sex with another person can be purely physical. Compare humping a sex-doll (like me you probably would have to imagine this one, I don't write from experience) with the sex in your last good punt, and then I don't think you can say that there are no emotions involved.  I also enjoy giving RO, but how can there be any physical pleasure for me involved in that? The pleasure must be all in the brain, I certainly wouldn't be getting any pleasure myself unless there was a real woman with real reactions on the end of my tongue.
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Offline Thepacifist

It was a female nurse that said to me it was natural for humans to want to seek emotional and physical connections. When I was younger I sought an emotional connection and gfe, mainly because of my problems connecting with civvies. I've probably developed EAS 2 times throughout my punting career and now can't get in contact with said girls. Coincidence I think not and lessons have been learned. Now, it's mainly physical. I enjoy facials and cim. UKP has helped me alleviate the emotion involved. I know they only pretend to like me because I'm paying and that helps me stay grounded in reality while enjoying the physical fantasy.

unclesweetheart

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Good sex makes you feel good. Feelings are emotions. The good feeling you have after/ during a great session isn't - for me anyway - just physical. I feel happier, more positive, lighter (in so many ways) energised. So I don't feel attached to the girl, as in EAS, but I do feel emotional. For a plain, middle-aged commitment-phobe who lusts after and adores sexy young women,  punting is the perfect solution. After one brilliant session I told the girl I loved her and - she'd had a great time too - she said that yes, I loved her for that night. That struck me as pretty much the truth. It is love for sale, after all.

Tetley

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just physical really, not every day you can have it with a pornstar

Pompoy123

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Good sex makes you feel good. Feelings are emotions. The good feeling you have after/ during a great session isn't - for me anyway - just physical. I feel happier, more positive, lighter (in so many ways) energised. So I don't feel attached to the girl, as in EAS, but I do feel emotional. For a plain, middle-aged commitment-phobe who lusts after and adores sexy young women,  punting is the perfect solution. After one brilliant session I told the girl I loved her and - she'd had a great time too - she said that yes, I loved her for that night. That struck me as pretty much the truth. It is love for sale, after all.

It's not love for sale it is sex. Those lines should not be crossed.

I think I'm about 90% intimacy/emotion and 10% physical. Fucking with a condom on is effing useless as I just won't come and none of them give as good hand job as I give myself.... OWO is okay though. But, I do like kissing, licking, sucking them and making eye contact a lot. In that moment I feel very emotionally connected and attached to them and I really like that feeling. Despite that intensity I quickly snap out of it as the punt ends and just feel happy but not all doe-eyed and delusionally " in love". My natural persona is stoic, unemotional and cold (Think Mr Spock!) so just letting go with feelings on a punt is what I do.

Offline LL

I punt for my own reasons, there's some emotion and there's definitely plenty of physical, but neither is the prime motivator.
For me emotion is the driving force behind motivation. Motivation for punting, motivation to do anything.

To anticipate a punt, to enjoy the risk, take pleasure from the intimacy, to be satisfied afterwards. These are all emotions. Punting with emotion is not necessarily about having an emotional-connection - e.g feelings of infatuation for the girl or misplaced feelings of perceived love.

Often I act on emotion when booking a punt. I'm not one of these guys who books a particular girl weeks in advance - I don't have the motivation for that (the emotion).  Instead the idea will enter my head one afternoon that I'd really like a punt and at that point I'll scour my hotlist and make some calls there and then - seeing whoever is free at short notice.

"Thinking with the little head", a term often used in punting is simply acting upon emotion. For instance: not walking away from a punt when bait n switched (I'm sure we've all done it); making an impromptu visit to a walkup/brothel/parlour when just out shopping or drinking; phoning someone for sex who we might not normally find attractive but just feel in the mood to try something different; going through with a punt which we know is risky (close to home / dodgy area / unreviewed Romanian!).  Reasoning and balanced thought-process goes out the window as emotion takes over.

firingblanks

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Physical for myself, but having a WG you click with is a bonus.
This also makes it a comfortable and friendly punt, even if it's paid for.

You can never forget you purchased their time and effort and being nice to you is part of their work.

I do it 100% for the physical reasons, the release and to hopefully have great sex with younger women.

I definitely enjoy it most though when there is that emotional connection before, during and for a short while after.

Then it's time to let go and respect professional boundaries once again, until hopefully the next time.

Offline GreyDave

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Its cheaper than the gym , you can not excise that muscle there and I just love to get hold of tits simple as that... :drinks:

password02

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I do it 100% for the physical reasons, the release and to hopefully have great sex with younger women.

I definitely enjoy it most though when there is that emotional connection before, during and for a short while after.
Then it's time to let go and respect professional boundaries once again, until hopefully the next time.

+1 - Also to fck lots of younger women to give me the lasting memories to look back on in 20-30 years time !!

Chuckman

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I enjoy the chat nearly as much as the sex but wouldn't go further than that as that path leads to madness aka fluffydom.

Quesadilla

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I enjoy spending time with gorgeous women and the more I get to know them and connect with them the better.

On the one hand the physical side of it is why I chose to punt rather than joining a yoga class.

But on the other if I didn't want any emotional involvement at all I'd get a fleshlight or have a wank.

Offline Bikerboy

I am going to give a D00fer style politician's answer and say a little of both.

For me, it's the 'high' from a physical (P) and emotional (E) punt. As USH alluded too, it's temporary ( for me, it's the time you are in 'that space')..so for me that's the punt duration and some 'afterglow' time. The bear trap is thinking it's longer lasting than that; notwithstanding rare exceptions noted elsewhere on this forum.

Of course, not all punts deliver on the P or E fronts, but this forum helps in the success rate. Put it like this, some E connection makes the P far more intense and memorable; that's where the real pro's and those who you successfully connect with come into their own. :drinks: :cool:

Offline itk

I punt because I like girls many years younger than myself --------------- if I tried to chat up a 19 year old civvy she would simply say "fuck off nonce", she would not be wrong.     :hi:

Same for me, purely physical. Wouldn't want the emotional bullshit

password02

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I am going to give a D00fer style politician's answer and say a little of both.
For me, it's the 'high' from a physical (P) and emotional (E) punt. As USH alluded too, it's temporary ( for me, it's the time you are in 'that space')..so for me that's the punt duration and some 'afterglow' time. The bear trap is thinking it's longer lasting than that; notwithstanding rare exceptions noted elsewhere on this forum.
Of course, not all punts deliver on the P or E fronts, but this forum helps in the success rate. Put it like this, some E connection makes the P far more intense and memorable; that's where the real pro's and those who you successfully connect with come into their own. :drinks: :cool:

+1 - Yes I like the reply BB - I can see some of this with me

For me punting was purely about physical lust!!!!!!

+1 - Yes I like the reply BB - I can see some of this with me

Yes, I can see some of this in me too.

I punt entirely because I don't want an emotional attachment with a woman, so 100% for physical reasons.

At the same time it would be not be human for me, not to form some form of emotional connection with those I have the very best sex with.

I know where to draw the boundaries though.

 

d00fer

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I'm intrigued as to your prime motivation if it's not one of the two above - do you love taking risks?

No, I'm pretty risk averse to be honest. For me it was/is/was more about pushing boundaries and fantasy fulfillment.

That said I'd add a hearty +1 to Bikerboy's comments and as Q said if it was just physical then I'd have a wank.

Offline Dime

For me personally it would be physical, however the emotion also plays a part. I can totally relate to other posters talking about the dangers of emotional attachment syndrome. The fact that I'm 23 and the WGs I see tend to be around the same age as me, and are students means that the GFE can start to seem very real due to the age similarity. I like the fact that she is essentially your girlfriend for the hour you spend with her though.

Offline LL

For me punting was purely about physical lust!!!!!!
Is lust not an emotion?

Offline johnnyboy61

Is lust not an emotion?
I think that those who are saying it is just physical are assuming that the only emotion involved is love. Sorry to bring us back to the same example, but humping a sex-doll and having sex with a woman (whether paid or not), I can't see how you can deny that the second has some emotional content as well, whereas the first is purely physical.
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Offline LL

I think that those who are saying it is just physical are assuming that the only emotion involved is love. Sorry to bring us back to the same example, but humping a sex-doll and having sex with a woman (whether paid or not), I can't see how you can deny that the second has some emotional content as well, whereas the first is purely physical.
Precisely. Although some don't want to have to admit that, through fear that they might be labelled a fluffy.

It's both for me... I like longer bookings so I can get to know the girl a bit more rather than a quickie. Plus it takes me a while to cum and usually ends in ahandjob by myself or the girl. So for me it's just about the sex because I'm sure at 26 years old I can walk into any student bar and pick up a drunk chick. But that's effort whereas a wg will, assuming you find the right one, make you feel special and wanted... Even if you suck at the whole "in and out"!

Offline sticko

I enjoy spending time with gorgeous women and the more I get to know them and connect with them the better.

On the one hand the physical side of it is why I chose to punt rather than joining a yoga class.

But on the other if I didn't want any emotional involvement at all I'd get a fleshlight or have a wank.

I do like a bit of yoga, and as a result I'm the trimmest and fittest I've been for ages :)

And to answer the question, plus 1 to Quesadilla's response.  The physical can be bloody brilliant, but for me it rarely is without some kind of connection, either short-term or longer term with regs.

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MrBridger

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Is lust not an emotion?

No, lust is an impulse like hunger or thirst; we have an inbuilt urge to procreate that surfaces (in straight men) when we meet an attractive woman. Emotions are things like love, hate, anger, jealousy - all of which are very undesirable in a punting environment.

 I would not call friendship an emotion either, and I think that what some people are referring to as an emotional connection is a form of temporary friendship - you get on with the girl, you share a laugh and a joke, you have a chat but then you move on, hopefully with a spring in your step and a nicely topped up wank bank.

That's all great but it's not emotion.
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No, lust is an impulse like hunger or thirst; we have an inbuilt urge to procreate that surfaces (in straight men) when we meet an attractive woman. Emotions are things like love, hate, anger, jealousy - all of which are very undesirable in a punting environment.

 I would not call friendship an emotion either, and I think that what some people are referring to as an emotional connection is a form of temporary friendship - you get on with the girl, you share a laugh and a joke, you have a chat but then you move on, hopefully with a spring in your step and a nicely topped up wank bank.

That's all great but it's not emotion.
Whether you call it impulse or emotion, we all punt with people for that connection with a person.  I was watching Humans (got mentioned on here a while back) and unsurprisingly some of the bots got used as sex dolls.  Not my cup of tea due to the lack of personal connection.
As others have quite rightly said, EAS is dangerous and should be avoided, but in the same way people on here control their physical performance you should also control your emotions so the personal connection does not become an obsession/imaginary love.

Quesadilla

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No, lust is an impulse like hunger or thirst; we have an inbuilt urge to procreate that surfaces (in straight men) when we meet an attractive woman. Emotions are things like love, hate, anger, jealousy - all of which are very undesirable in a punting environment.

 I would not call friendship an emotion either, and I think that what some people are referring to as an emotional connection is a form of temporary friendship - you get on with the girl, you share a laugh and a joke, you have a chat but then you move on, hopefully with a spring in your step and a nicely topped up wank bank.

That's all great but it's not emotion.
Technically they are all emotions - emotions by definition are the things that motivate us.  At least according to the latest research a la books like Emotional Intelligence by Daniel Goleman - emotions all stem from the primitive brain and correspond to our basic survival drives. 

The most basic drives we have are to acquire the resources we need to survive (food / shelter etc), avoid loss or pain and perpetuate ourselves through fucking.  But that's the most basic level - these drives have evolved in primates to include more complex drives - things like curiosity, independence, social drives / acceptance, power etc.  Love, hate, fear, jealousy, friendship all stem from these.
 
I'd say there's literally no such thing as a punt sans emotion. The only question is which emotions come into play. 
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Siadwel

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I punt because I like to fuck fit girls half my age and cum in their mouths, then snowball them.

I are a simple soul, really, of simple tastes.

Offline LL

Technically they are all emotions - emotions by definition are the things that motivate us.  At least according to the latest research a la books like Emotional Intelligence by Daniel Goleman - emotions all stem from the primitive brain and correspond to our basic survival drives

Yes. I wrote something about that earlier in the thread. I was interested in the topic so did my own research too. You quote one expert's opinion but this is an area in which the experts cannot agree upon a definition. Like everything else in the human brain - doctors and scientists / researchers still understand very little about it.

Offline RedKettle

it is partly the risk taking - as someone who has conformed to the usual standards all my life I like the thrill of doing something that if it became public would be condemned by most of the people i know.  So that is emotion I guess.

but mainly I like fucking all sorts of women....

Offline purple_t

I agree with others who say if you're looking for an emotional connection you're saving up trouble for yourself.

I am looking for intimacy as well as the purely physical release. The experience is improved immeasurably for me if I genuinely get on with the girl, believe she's enjoying herself and can establish some form of connection/rapport before, during and after the act, but I would never say emotions are involved.

I've been punting for less than a year and to be honest I've surprised myself with how well I've managed to compartmentalise the different aspects of this game; I have discovered that it is quite possible to be respectful, friendly and even on occasion caring towards these women while recognising their professional boundaries and without ever becoming emotionally attached.

This is exactly how I feel as well. There are WGs I'm fond of but wouldn't say there is any emotional attachment. It's just business of course but it's always nice if you can have a bit of a chat etc