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Offline sushi

Why the fuck would you want to jizz into some prossie ,who has fucked hundreds of men before you? So you spunk inside her and just 20 minutes before some cunts already jizzed in her pussy.  :crazy: :wacko:
They want a sloshing frothing jizz filled cum bucket of disease. Poking a prossie whos pussy is already sloshing with more semen than the Royal Navy from her previous 10 punters is sick.  :vomit: And any punter who wants to go down and taste it.   :vomit:

Offline broksonic

I suspect the real reason the Escort got a negative review from you was because she refused BB

 :thumbsdown:
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Offline riskytimes

pick up some local dog in a nightclub who has probably shagged a dozen men so far this year and shag her cos you drank too much ! its bareback but different cos she works in a normal job ?

or is it dirty because the WG is a prostitute ? send your answers on  a postcard to ......

I shagged a bird in a nightclub
boogie lane
London STI

Offline sushi

I for one wouldn't pick up a dog in a nightclub and shag her bareback so for me the question is null and void. Shag any bird bareback prossie or civvie and you could end up with a dose or a pregnancy. Condoms are your friend!!

Offline punk

pick up some local dog in a nightclub who has probably shagged a dozen men so far this year and shag her cos you drank too much ! its bareback but different cos she works in a normal job ?

or is it dirty because the WG is a prostitute ? send your answers on  a postcard to ......

I shagged a bird in a nightclub
boogie lane
London STI

Dont be cruel to animals.  :thumbsup:

Offline punk

I for one wouldn't pick up a dog in a nightclub and shag her bareback so for me the question is null and void. Shag any bird bareback prossie or civvie and you could end up with a dose or a pregnancy. Condoms are your friend!!

they are a life saver.

Offline Quesadilla

No doubt going to get shot down but just playing devil's advocate.

For the record personally I would not bb a WG and only ever have bareback sex with a regular girlfriend after we've explicitly agreed to see each other exclusively. That's a personal preference as much based on avoiding unwanted pregnancy as anything else - of course I assume all WG's are using other contraception but I would not want to be the unwitting father of someone else's kid whether they turn up claiming child support or not.  Also for a wg I think bb says something about their attitude to their own health which personally puts me off. :thumbsdown:

But when you look at the evidence and the chances of catching an STI there's really not much difference between vaginal sex and OWO between a punter and a wg.

The odds of catching any STI for a bloke are slim and as we've seen on this site they are NOT prevented by wearing a condom during intercourse.

The vast majority of STI's including Chlamydia, Hep B, herpes, gonorrhea and syphilis can all be caught through OWO.  Genital warts and some others can be caught through simple skin contact so even during OW or protected sex. It's true that the risk for some like gonorrhea and chlamydia are lower through OWO but by how much is not clear. 

HIV is probably the largest concern for most punters as it's life-threatening but the odds of a punter catching HIV from unprotected sex with an infected WG are still 1 in 2,500 (0.04% chance).  There is still some debate as to whether the risk for the guy in contracting HIV from OWO is actually any lower than for vaginal intercourse.  BB anal sex is the highest risk activity for HIV for both parties. 

So given the above I don't quite see why some are so vehemently against bb sex.  Yes it is certainly higher risk than OWO for some STI's but difficult to quantify by how much - so bb is by no means in an entirely different ball park to OWO.  For some STI's a condom and OW will still not help. 

So surely the risk is a spectrum with anal bb at one end, then bb, OWO, and OW towards the lower risk end of the scale. 

Even unprotected sex with a regular "trusted / exclusive" civvy partner is not risk free - many women may have chlamydia or gonorrhea without symptoms so you may still contract an STI at home.

As has been said repeatedly the only no risk sexual activity is no sex at all.  I think stigmatising bb'ers just encourages them to go underground.  It's just a higher risk activity and better that we're all up front about it in my view - forewarned is forearmed.

I think admins policy is spot on - but I think for sure any here who engage in OWO yet go off on one about bb'ers need to take a chill pill and get back in their corner.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2015, 05:43:22 PM by Quesadilla »
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Offline riskytimes

what a sensible and excellent response to such a post ! I was not advocating such an activity but clearly putting it in to perspective .  I started my normal youthful shagging career with picking up girls in discos , yes discos (1970's ) and thankfully  got my fair share of a good old fashioned knee trembler around the back and yes we didn't care in those days about the clap as it was a lads thing at the pub . im on orange juice ive got the clap ,  a scrape later and penicillin did the trick ! they would bragg .

Yes things have moved on and its a bit dodgy now to say the least but I would give money that if any bloke on here this weekend saw a fit bird in a pub and she gave him the green light he would be in her bareback quicker than  Hamilton got off the starting grid !! after all most of us have been shagging the same woman for years and putting up with the same old moans and groans !!!

Offline smiths

what a sensible and excellent response to such a post ! I was not advocating such an activity but clearly putting it in to perspective .  I started my normal youthful shagging career with picking up girls in discos , yes discos (1970's ) and thankfully  got my fair share of a good old fashioned knee trembler around the back and yes we didn't care in those days about the clap as it was a lads thing at the pub . im on orange juice ive got the clap ,  a scrape later and penicillin did the trick ! they would bragg .

Yes things have moved on and its a bit dodgy now to say the least but I would give money that if any bloke on here this weekend saw a fit bird in a pub and she gave him the green light he would be in her bareback quicker than  Hamilton got off the starting grid !! after all most of us have been shagging the same woman for years and putting up with the same old moans and groans !!!

No I wouldn't BB some fit bird who gave me the green light, firstly I would be thinking how many other guys has she offered this to and secondly I care about my health enough so always have condoms on me so would use one if she had none, if she said BB or nothing it would be nothing, I am not that desperate.

Offline johnnyboy61

No doubt going to get shot down but just playing devil's advocate...........

But when you look at the evidence and the chances of catching an STI there's really not much difference between vaginal sex and OWO between a punter and a wg.
I know that you are not talking about a specific STI and are playing devil's advocate, but the Terrance Higgins Trust have the following information on their website with regards to the big one (HIV):

"Oral sex is very low risk for HIV transmission but sometimes the virus is passed on this way. There are no exact figures on how risky it is but HIV doesn’t find it easy to enter the bloodstream through the relatively tough lining of the mouth or throat. Unprotected anal and vaginal sex lead to far more HIV infections than are caused by oral sex."
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Offline Quesadilla

Yes things have moved on and its a bit dodgy now to say the least but I would give money that if any bloke on here this weekend saw a fit bird in a pub and she gave him the green light he would be in her bareback quicker than  Hamilton got off the starting grid !! after all most of us have been shagging the same woman for years and putting up with the same old moans and groans !!!
No I wouldn't BB some fit bird who gave me the green light, firstly I would be thinking how many other guys has she offered this to and secondly I care about my health enough so always have condoms on me so would use one if she had none, if she said BB or nothing it would be nothing, I am not that desperate.
+1 - a civvy who meets you and volunteers BB is more risky than a WG for me.  A professional escort with a decent reputation is going to take her sexual health seriously and be regularly tested.  A random civvy who will BB any stranger is much more likely to be HIV + or have other infections. 
Frankly only a moron would bb some random civvy in that situation.
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Offline punk

No I wouldn't BB some fit bird who gave me the green light, firstly I would be thinking how many other guys has she offered this to and secondly I care about my health enough so always have condoms on me so would use one if she had none, if she said BB or nothing it would be nothing, I am not that desperate.

And that's if the bird will let you fuck her without a rubber.

Either way as i said to the czech bird at work, its a rubber or i'm not bothering, being a foreigner she thought i meant an eraser  :rolleyes:

Offline JV547845

I'd really rather not have an official BB board on UKP as it on the surface endorses BB.  I'm curious what kind of ear bashing barebackers get from the GUM clinic though.

Offline smiths

No doubt going to get shot down but just playing devil's advocate.

For the record personally I would not bb a WG and only ever have bareback sex with a regular girlfriend after we've explicitly agreed to see each other exclusively. That's a personal preference as much based on avoiding unwanted pregnancy as anything else - of course I assume all WG's are using other contraception but I would not want to be the unwitting father of someone else's kid whether they turn up claiming child support or not.  Also for a wg I think bb says something about their attitude to their own health which personally puts me off. :thumbsdown:

But when you look at the evidence and the chances of catching an STI there's really not much difference between vaginal sex and OWO between a punter and a wg.

The odds of catching any STI for a bloke are slim and as we've seen on this site they are NOT prevented by wearing a condom during intercourse.

The vast majority of STI's including Chlamydia, Hep B, herpes, gonorrhea and syphilis can all be caught through OWO.  Genital warts and some others can be caught through simple skin contact so even during OW or protected sex. It's true that the risk for some like gonorrhea and chlamydia are lower through OWO but by how much is not clear. 

HIV is probably the largest concern for most punters as it's life-threatening but the odds of a punter catching HIV from unprotected sex with an infected WG are still 1 in 2,500 (0.04% chance).  There is still some debate as to whether the risk for the guy in contracting HIV from OWO is actually any lower than for vaginal intercourse.  BB anal sex is the highest risk activity for HIV for both parties. 

So given the above I don't quite see why some are so vehemently against bb sex.  Yes it is certainly higher risk than OWO for some STI's but difficult to quantify by how much - so bb is by no means in an entirely different ball park to OWO.  For some STI's a condom and OW will still not help. 

So surely the risk is a spectrum with anal bb at one end, then bb, OWO, and OW towards the lower risk end of the scale. 

Even unprotected sex with a regular "trusted / exclusive" civvy partner is not risk free - many women may have chlamydia or gonorrhea without symptoms so you may still contract an STI at home.

As has been said repeatedly the only no risk sexual activity is no sex at all.  I think stigmatising bb'ers just encourages them to go underground.  It's just a higher risk activity and better that we're all up front about it in my view - forewarned is forearmed.

I think admins policy is spot on - but I think for sure any here who engage in OWO yet go off on one about bb'ers need to take a chill pill and get back in their corner.

ALL punting holds a risk but that doesn't exclude posters from giving an opinion on what they find a risk they aren't prepared to take. So no getting back in any corner in my case.

I personally listen though don't follow all the advice the GUM staff tell me rather than anyone else and at the GUM they tell me BB penetration is riskier than OWO to me but I shouldn't do either as quite rightly they advise safe sex so not to punt at all.

No doubt going to get shot down but just playing devil's advocate.

For the record personally I would not bb a WG and only ever have bareback sex with a regular girlfriend after we've explicitly agreed to see each other exclusively. That's a personal preference as much based on avoiding unwanted pregnancy as anything else - of course I assume all WG's are using other contraception but I would not want to be the unwitting father of someone else's kid whether they turn up claiming child support or not.  Also for a wg I think bb says something about their attitude to their own health which personally puts me off. :thumbsdown:

But when you look at the evidence and the chances of catching an STI there's really not much difference between vaginal sex and OWO between a punter and a wg.

The odds of catching any STI for a bloke are slim and as we've seen on this site they are NOT prevented by wearing a condom during intercourse.

The vast majority of STI's including Chlamydia, Hep B, herpes, gonorrhea and syphilis can all be caught through OWO.  Genital warts and some others can be caught through simple skin contact so even during OW or protected sex. It's true that the risk for some like gonorrhea and chlamydia are lower through OWO but by how much is not clear. 

HIV is probably the largest concern for most punters as it's life-threatening but the odds of a punter catching HIV from unprotected sex with an infected WG are still 1 in 2,500 (0.04% chance).  There is still some debate as to whether the risk for the guy in contracting HIV from OWO is actually any lower than for vaginal intercourse.  BB anal sex is the highest risk activity for HIV for both parties. 

So given the above I don't quite see why some are so vehemently against bb sex.  Yes it is certainly higher risk than OWO for some STI's but difficult to quantify by how much - so bb is by no means in an entirely different ball park to OWO.  For some STI's a condom and OW will still not help. 

So surely the risk is a spectrum with anal bb at one end, then bb, OWO, and OW towards the lower risk end of the scale. 

Even unprotected sex with a regular "trusted / exclusive" civvy partner is not risk free - many women may have chlamydia or gonorrhea without symptoms so you may still contract an STI at home.

As has been said repeatedly the only no risk sexual activity is no sex at all.  I think stigmatising bb'ers just encourages them to go underground.  It's just a higher risk activity and better that we're all up front about it in my view - forewarned is forearmed.

I think admins policy is spot on - but I think for sure any here who engage in OWO yet go off on one about bb'ers need to take a chill pill and get back in their corner.
The stats that you are quoting are they general or are they specific to sexual contact with prostitutes. Also they are not taking into consideration whether the wg has ever been an intreveinous drug user l.
I think just hoping that because stats show risk is not that large is being truly reckless.
If the stats are so correct how does that account for the epidemics of aids/hiv in South of the Sahara Africa where in some places 60% of wgs have hiv. And most of them have contracted it from sex not drugs or blood transfusion.?

Offline smiths

No I wouldn't BB some fit bird who gave me the green light, firstly I would be thinking how many other guys has she offered this to and secondly I care about my health enough so always have condoms on me so would use one if she had none, if she said BB or nothing it would be nothing, I am not that desperate.

+1 - a civvy who meets you and volunteers BB is more risky than a WG for me.  A professional escort with a decent reputation is going to take her sexual health seriously and be regularly tested.  A random civvy who will BB any stranger is much more likely to be HIV + or have other infections. 
Frankly only a moron would bb some random civvy in that situation.

I don't agree such WGs or many get tested irrespective of reputation unless they think they have caught something personally, and I don't think many civvies or punters do either, in fact I think the number of people that do get tested regularly is small.

Its clear to me from reading threads here and elsewhere on punting forums that a lot of punters don't get tested on a regular basis, WGs on forums say they do but they would otherwise it might affect their business so I certainly don't just blindly believe them. All unprovable of course, but I concentrate on what I do know, what I get up to and with whom.

Offline punk

I don't agree such WGs or many get tested irrespective of reputation unless they think they have caught something personally, and I don't think many civvies or punters do either, in fact I think the number of people that do get tested regularly is small.

Its clear to me from reading threads here and elsewhere on punting forums that a lot of punters don't get tested on a regular basis, WGs on forums say they do but they would otherwise it might affect their business so I certainly don't just blindly believe them. All unprovable of course, but I concentrate on what I do know, what I get up to and with whom.

i test every four months,cant trust the word of any one else,as i have no proof.I've heard from some WGS that they have been told to go every 6 months to a clinic by a clinic and as some have said to me that cannot be right?

Offline johnnyboy61

I received this response by email to a specific question that I asked a WG when making a booking, but I know that not all WGs are being regularly tested for STIs, and the ones that are being tested are possibly in the minority. There was a specific reason why I asked if she was being tested, and of course there is no independent verification that either fact is true.
   
"Yes I do. Because I am aware of "certain girls" getting std every month or 2. Unfortunately I have to see every punter as potential barebacker so yes I do get checked regularly."
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Offline smiths

i test every four months,cant trust the word of any one else,as i have no proof.I've heard from some WGS that they have been told to go every 6 months to a clinic by a clinic and as some have said to me that cannot be right?

There is a lot of WG propaganda on this issue with them posting they get tested on a regular basis, it is of course to re-assure potential punters, it doesn't mean its true though of course, although I daresay some do, problem is I don't know which for certain.

I go every 3 months but if I were a WG I would be going monthly due to the number of cocks I would be sucking and fucking. Every 6 months certainly isn't often enough in my opinion.

Offline Jimmyredcab

Pro$$ies who offer bareback are dirty lowlife skanks and the punters who see them are no better.

Online webpunter

I go every 3 months but if I were a WG I would be going monthly due to the number of cocks I would be sucking and fucking. Every 6 months certainly isn't often enough in my opinion.
I was having a quick scan of this thread & others - the usual early evening catch up.  Not paying full attention all i mistakenly 1st picked up on was Smiths / cocks / sucking & fucking.  I'm thinking Smiths - UKP Squadron Leader on the posts & review front.  WTF.  Never.  On 2nd read more slowly things all made sense.  TFFT  :lol:

Offline Quesadilla

The stats that you are quoting are they general or are they specific to sexual contact with prostitutes. Also they are not taking into consideration whether the wg has ever been an intreveinous drug user l.
I think just hoping that because stats show risk is not that large is being truly reckless.
If the stats are so correct how does that account for the epidemics of aids/hiv in South of the Sahara Africa where in some places 60% of wgs have hiv. And most of them have contracted it from sex not drugs or blood transfusion.?

Africa is not directly comparable with the UK for various reasons.  The main one being that due to higher availability of testing and medicine here in the UK those that do have HIV are discovered and treated - and HIV treatment reduces the viral load by over 95% - in short meaning that HIV patients being treated in this country are not actually continuing to spread the disease even if they are engaging in unprotected sex.  In Africa the lack of detection and treatment means the disease spreads unhindered.

So firstly to be clear if you fuck someone who is HIV positive but undergoing treatment the risks of infection is incredibly low. Certainly not negligible but very small much lower than the general stats I quoted.

The other statistics I quoted relating to transmission of HIV are indeed general and to be clear they are purely related to your chance of catching HIV from an infected person during any bareback sexual encounter.  So firstly it makes no difference whether they are a WG or an intravenous drug user.  Secondly there is no clear view as to whether there is any less risk with unprotected oral vs unprotected vaginal sex.  Unfortunately people who have sex tend to do both so there are no real stats that isolate oral sex.  If you assume oral is lower risk that's a dangerous assumption.

The factors that could increase the likelihood of infection include inflammation / open wounds / sores.  So for example if she is menstruating or also has another STI this will certainly increase the possibility. 

Likewise for you as a punter the likelihood of catching HIV is mainly down to the state of your undercarriage.  If you have an STI or other ailment that results in inflammation or sores then of course you are much more likely to be receptive to infection.  Also it should be obvious but avoiding shaving that area on the day you punt is a good starter.  Did you also know for example that circumcision decreases the likelihood of a man catching HIV by up to 60%?  I happen to be circumcised so that's always good to know but not something I get blasé about.

So your chance of catching HIV from an infected individual - WG or otherwise - are very low unless you are very careless or dumb (punting after shaving and cutting your dick, or with an existing STI or other infection).

Secondly you have to compound the likelihood of catching HIV during any one encounter with the likelihood of the person having HIV in the first place.

According to research in the British Medical Journal HIV is not widely prevalent in the population of London prostitutes - less than 1% of those not intravenously injecting drugs. 

Of course as you rightly say you have no way of knowing if a WG was formerly an IV drug user - or even that their regular civvy partner isn't an IV drug user.

But still the evidence strongly suggests that the risk of finding an infected WG is quite low - certainly I would suggest < 1 in 50 or 2%. If she happens to not be aware she is infected and therefore is not taking antiviral drugs then - unless you have open sores / wounds - the chances of you catching HIV from one sexual encounter with her are still pretty low - ie in the region of 1 in 2,500 or 0.04%.  If she knows she is infected and is being treated then the antivirals massively reduce the chance of her infecting you so the risk becomes almost astronomically small.

In my view if you want to engage in either OWO or bb sex the risk of contracting HIV is minimal as long as you take sensible precautions in terms of your choice of WG and ensuring your bits are in good nick as well. 

Otherwise we'd have a HIV epidemic here in the punting community like in Africa and we clearly do not.
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Online webpunter

In my view if you want to engage in either OWO or bb sex the risk of contracting HIV is minimal as long as you take sensible precautions in terms of your choice of WG and ensuring your bits are in good nick as well. 
Otherwise we'd have a HIV epidemic here in the punting community like in Africa and we clearly do not.
From what i've read the risks are minimal with BB sex - but still there.  And the odds rapidly reduce [so chances increase] with other causal factors like open cuts in your bell end or the woman having sores / infection
Its like how many times does it take with the same civvie bird before nodders go out of the window.  Or they say put one on if you want to come inside me etc
However at the other end of the scale then unless other causal factors then with OWO the odds are massively better.  Especially for the receiver rather than giver.  As you point out though difficult to differentiate with what caused what when both OWO & BB etc

Offline tazz

If HIV, herpes and all the other STD's didnt exist then fair enough. This this guy is on a death wish as he barebacked a romanian https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=60204.0

Anyone ever used these condoms for the bareback feeling http://www.condoms.co.uk/acatalog/Bareback_Condoms.html

Offline JV547845

In my view if you want to engage in either OWO or bb sex the risk of contracting HIV is minimal as long as you take sensible precautions in terms of your choice of WG and ensuring your bits are in good nick as well. 

You'd be booking the same WGs all the low life breeders book.  I wouldn't believe the risk is minimal in the slightest. 


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