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Author Topic: What Could Adultwork do to stop the Fake Private Gallery Profiles?  (Read 11811 times)

Offline AnthG

It is true - you have to send a copy of photo ID which they specify as driving licence, passport etc and it has to show DOB BUT they say the DOB doesn't have to match that on your profile for discretion reasons.
So if that is the case how on earth do these fake profiles come about which have the verification done?

Is there a lesser and full verification procedure where they will accept just a photo with the paper written AW 30/1/12 or what?


Offline Jacob

https://www.adultwork.com/MemberVerification.asp

Upload ID    Confidential
The ID you supply will remain confidential
Scan your ID or take a good picture of it and upload the file here.

Any of the following ID is accepted:

    * Passport
    * Driving Licence
    * ID Card

Your name, photograph and date of birth must be clearly legible.  Only computer printed documents will be accepted, no handwritten ID please.

Upload Verification Photo    Public

Your verification photo will be accessible via your Profile
Take your picture ensuring it meets these guidelines:


    * You must be fully clothed, no nudity.
    * Your face must be clearly visible although you may obscure your eyes if desired.
    * You must be holding a piece of paper with the phrase "AdultWork.com User ID: xxxxxxx" and the date written on it.
    * You must upload your photo within 24 hours of the date that you've written.
    * There must be no text or contact information on the picture, except your nickname, if desired.


The member can choose to hide the 'Verification Picture' and a 'Verification Picture' can also be uploaded on its own.

As far as profiles being deleted scammers can get around all this stuff with fake documents and altered pictures and you don't seriously think Adultwork actually monitor the DOB. There are plently of Fake Verified Bollocks profiles in the main scam thread.


« Last Edit: February 09, 2012, 09:31:27 AM by Jacob »

Offline Joe Blob

It is true Anth, look it up on AW.

Look at the various ways you can draw money out of AW, they ALL involve some sort of ID verification somewhere along the line. for example, direct payment into a bank a/c needs you to verify your ID with the bank, but if there's no verification at the other end, AW require it at theirs. I suspect this is to comply with international anti-moneylaundering regulations, transfers of cash all need to be traceable nowadays.

People will still try and use a false ID, but if AW find out, they'll close the a/c and keep the money, win win.


Bugger! Jacob beat me to it.

Offline AnthG

People will still try and use a false ID, but if AW find out, they'll close the a/c and keep the money, win win.

What they should do is report the buggers for fraud!

They have the bank details the police could find them easy.

And when I say report them for fraud. Before people jump on me I am talking about people like that guy who had thousands worth from credits from fake profiles that was linked to from that scam thread on that scamming forum.

All they have to do it to is one person, the most serious, and it will get in the press and send the stern message of don't try it on with AW.

Offline SarahHarris

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All a verified profile means is that AW knows who set up the account, and their bank details. (like Joe says, it's for money laundering and underage stuff to cover their backs, not for the punter)

Mine's verified, and I've cashed out credits. But I could go and upload a picture of Pamela Anderson into my private gallery right now, or nick a load of pics off a porn site. They know what I look like, but they don't care if the pictures I put on are me or not. Given that someone physically checks every picture, blog, and story that goes on there (think they use software to check the profile text though), they're clearly not arsed about what pictures go in the PG, cos that's where they make the bulk of their money.

Point in case - you're not supposed to refer to any of your services or AW in your blog. I've wrote all sorts of things about AW, camming, pictures, that kind of thing (all AW revenue generating) and they've not bothered one bit. I wrote one thing saying I was excited about escorting and they took it off for 'referring to my services'. Hmmm, they don't make any money out of my escorting....

AW is an excellent tool for punters and escorts, providing on both sides that they know what to look for and what to avoid. But it's not for escorting, it's a site to primarily sell photos and webcam sessions.

Offline Strawberry

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What they should do is report the buggers for fraud!

They have the bank details the police could find them easy.

And when I say report them for fraud. Before people jump on me I am talking about people like that guy who had thousands worth from credits from fake profiles that was linked to from that scam thread on that scamming forum.

All they have to do it to is one person, the most serious, and it will get in the press and send the stern message of don't try it on with AW.

AW aren't interested, and why should they be? They make money out of the scams, it's not difficult and the police probably wouldn't be that interested anyway either.

Offline Jimmyredcab

AW aren't interested, and why should they be? They make money out of the scams, it's not difficult and the police probably wouldn't be that interested anyway either.

I can't really see the police switching on the blue lights because some dirty old men (like me) have paid £2 to view a bogus private gallery.   :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Offline AnthG

I can't really see the police switching on the blue lights because some dirty old men (like me) have paid £2 to view a bogus private gallery.   :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

But it adds up. And AW have clout.

I noticed in the Chronicle recently a story of a women convicted of Fraud because she did not declaire her conviction on a job application form asking do you have any past convictions.

If they will prosecute someone for that, they will prosecute anyone for Fraud. And if some guy has made £1000+ from creating non stop fake profiles using a dodgy Passport or Driving licence for each. Then that is an open and shut case.

The guy will plead guilty unless he is mad and AW get some very good positive PR and advertising out of it.

Remember everyone says the best thing for auto-censored was HH complaing. This is AW reporting someone for defrauding its punters and escorts on there and thus showing they care about both (everyone knows they don't but they can pretend for a short period).

Offline SarahHarris

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I don't know if it would count as fraud from a legal POV.
The PG scammers are providing pictures of naked ladies, which is what you pay your two quid for. The deception is 1) pretending that it's an escort profile, to boost PG sales for potential punters 2) lifting the pics off another website without the owners knowledge or consent. The first point - I'm not sure if this would count as fraud, false advertising or what. The second is a copyright issue, not a fraud issue, and the complaint would need to be lodged by the picture owner. Stuff on the internet is generally considered to be in the public domain anyway.

The further issue would be - where do you stop? In theory, Anth is fraudulently representing himself as a cartoon dog. JRC presents the X Factor between punts. Although it's totally different intentions, and there's no cash involved in forum avatars, the legal theory would be the same, i.e. you are not allowed to post a picture of another person, without their knowledge, in a way that people could think it's a picture of you.

I'm not defending PG scams at all, my point is just that I think external regulation would be impossible, and AW won't do it cos of the dollar involved.

I appreciate Anth's point about publicity/auto-censored/the HH factor, but I think they'd lose more clamping down on the scams than they would gain from the publicity. There's nearly 60,000 active female profiles on there - if they get £2 a week off each one, that's £1.5 million a year for doing fook all.


Offline AnthG

The further issue would be - where do you stop? In theory, Anth is fraudulently representing himself as a cartoon dog.

But I am not offering sex with the dog.

Offline SarahHarris

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But I am not offering sex with the dog.

I'm glad you clarified that  :P

I don't agree with PG scams at all, they're morally reprehensible, and I thought the guy off that site who was doing it on a huge scale should have done time, but I don't think it would be covered under the law. (Just my opinion, though)

Offline Joe Blob


The further issue would be - where do you stop? In theory, Anth is fraudulently representing himself as a cartoon dog.

Not true, Anth really is a cartoon dog    :coolgirl: :coolgirl: :coolgirl:

Offline smiths

I see the pure fantasy thinking continues. Nothing wrong with being an idealist but i have found being a realist comes with less disappointments.

Anyone that really thinks they are going to change A/Ws present modus is in for a big disappointment.

Online James999

if they get £2 a week off each one, that's £1.5 million a year for doing fook all.

Fuck all aprt from create run and maintain the largest and most comprehensive Prostitution resource in the country (probably the world)  :hi:

Oh and giving it to pro$$ies for FREE  :cool:

Offline mattylondon

Oh and giving it to pro$$ies for FREE  :cool:
Why do you think it has so much appeal for them?!!  :D

Offline Jimmyredcab

Fuck all aprt from create run and maintain the largest and most comprehensive Prostitution resource in the country (probably the world)  :hi:

Oh and giving it to pro$$ies for FREE  :cool:

Hmmmm ----- not exactly free, Adultwork earn a lot of money from both punters and prossies ----- yes it can be free if they don't have a private gallery and never display a phone number or available today.

Offline Jacob

Hmmmm ----- not exactly free, Adultwork earn a lot of money from both punters and prossies ----- yes it can be free if they don't have a private gallery and never display a phone number or available today.

It's effectively free if they never actually buy credits, all that is paid for by those who pay to view.

Offline Jimmyredcab

It's effectively free if they never actually buy credits, all that is paid for by those who pay to view.

True ------- but she loses a big chunk of her private gallery revenue ----- especially if she wants to withdraw the money.   :hi:

Yes but to earn 70 % off private galleries is a good screw imo.  especially as theres not much work involved. :thumbsup:

Offline Jimmyredcab

Yes but to earn 70 % off private galleries is a good screw imo.  especially as theres not much work involved. :thumbsup:

I thought they lost more than 30% if they wanted to pull the cash from the system ------------- maybe one of the ladies could tell us.

Offline Jacob

No need for a lady. Adultwork take 30%.   :hi:

Offline mattylondon

No need for a lady. Adultwork take 30%.   :hi:
Yes, I've been told by girls it's 30% too. Not bad for doing fuck all but displaying some pictures. And the money that they can earn from webcam is incredible, if they're any good. I know one girl who earns double through webcam and she provides and excellent service. Always plenty of guys lining up for webcam.  :sarcastic:

Offline Jimmyredcab

Always plenty of guys lining up for webcam.  :sarcastic:

There are some sad Mother ******s out there that's for sure.    :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

There are some sad Mother ******s out there that's for sure.    :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:

how do you mean sad Jim?

surely its only like viewing porno, but paying for your choice?

Offline Jimmyredcab

how do you mean sad Jim?

surely its only like viewing porno, but paying for your choice?

Porn is free, I would never pay to watch a girl play with herself on web-cam ----- in my opinion it is worse than sad, but each to their own.  ;)


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