Txt message from GUM clinic?

[marty_mcfly]

I'm in two minds as to whether the girl should be named (if Marty is 100% sure who it is).  It would stop speculation but on the other hand it might dissuade others WGs from contacting clients in the same circumstances.

I have no clue who the girl is. There are several candidates. Even if I was 100% sure, I would never ever name her, not even in a PM. She will get treated and if I have caught it, then I will get treated. End of story. Why name and shame an innocent girl who was kind enough to alert her punters like that?

I will get tested in 2 or even three weeks so that the STI (if any) shows up. Whether the thing was a hoax and even if the clinic cannot verify the text, I will get tested. I have my own health to think about and I have a healthy family. I am not taking any chances.

My only concern is for other punters. Surely there must be many others that have received such a text. They must get tested. No ifs and buts. Please guys, stop being selfish and get tested.

[charming_red]

And good on the girl for letting you know. I caught an NSU from a well-known London girl and I told her about it earlier this week. She's still working and didn't even take a break. Of course she may have gotten herself tested. I hope she did. She never responded to my AW message, although I can see that she read it. Perhaps I should ask the clinic to contact her. She may take it more seriously then.

Thats a little worrying 

Its a difficult predicament in naming her to warn your fellow punters and keeping her ID private.

[LL]

I said she cancelled and rightly so.

Of course I am abstaining for punting until I have the all clear.

Glad to hear it mate. It's not all bad - think of the money you'll save.

[LL]

Thats a little worrying 

Its a difficult predicament in naming her to warn your fellow punters and keeping her ID private.

Yes, the trouble is that since it's an NSU I caught, I cannot be 100% certain that I caught it from sexual contact at all. This type of infection can be caught in non-sexual ways although that scenario is far less likely.
What I am 100% certain of is that, if I caught it from another person, it was from a particular girl.  I know that since I was tested 2 weeks before seeing her. So I think it would be wrong for me to name her as there's a slim chance she didn't give me the infection. She deserves the benefit of the doubt considering the consequences to her if I'm wrong. I do hope she got tested and contacted other clients if any of her test results came back positive though.

[marty_mcfly]

VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE - YOU MUST READ IT

SYLVESTER has been sending me abusive and insulting messages accusing me of destroying Elle's career as an escort.

I punted with Elle a few hours before I received that text. Elle is therefore ruled out. The timing of my punt and the text I received makes it IMPOSSIBLE for Elle to have seen me, then gone to the GUM clinic, then tested postive, then notified the GUM clinic to notify all her clients and then for the GUM clinic to send me a text all within a few hours!

ELLE IS INNOCENT, so leave her alone.

I am fed up of this whole thing. I am treated like an HIV sufferer and am subjected to accusations and abuse.

I am being tortured for no fault of my own. I was just worried about my AW account being hacked. In my honesty and good faith, I posted my message and am treated like an untouchable leper.

I am virtually in tears as I write this.

I am not going to post anything on this review board anymore.

Thanks for ruining my reputation as a punter with so many reputable girls.

Here is my message for Elle for everyone to see:

I HAVE BEEN ACCUSED AND ABUSED THE FOR DESTROYING ELLE'S REPUTATION. I CAN CONFIRM THAT ELLE DOES NOT HAVE ANY STI. THE TIMING OF MY PUNT WITH ELLE AND THE TEXT I RECEIVED MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR ELLE TO HAVE NOTIFIED HER GUM CLINIC. LEAVE THE POOR GIRL ALONE, AND GIVE ME A BREAK.

[vw]

Sorry Marty that you got abuse, from what I see is you have behaved honestly and dignity throughout.  Really hope your test goes well.

VW

[marty_mcfly]

Sorry Marty that you got abuse, from what I see is you have behaved honestly and dignity throughout.  Really hope your test goes well.

VW

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I am now being abused by escorts. Getting PMs.

[vw]

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I am now being abused by escorts. Getting PMs.

You didn't name anyone on this thread, nor were you willing to speculate.

[Unknown_2727]

I can back marty up stop accusing him. I got the exact same txt as well at about the same time. I have never seen Elle so can 100% confirm that it is not her.  If indeed these are genuine warning txts sent by a clinic on behalf of an escort. 

[fredpunter]

This is crazy. There is no justification for anyone to be giving Marty a hard time. Are we all supposed to bury our heads in the sand and pretend infections never happen? It's a useful reminder that everyone should get tested regularly, its in everyone's interests that they do. Though I got grumpy pms from one or two people when i said as much several weeks ago.

[Mr Br1ghts1de]

+1. Reference to FP's point.

There has been far too much speculation on the WHO.

Shit happens from time to time in this game and it is to the girl's, Marty' s and Unknown's credit that they have come forward and risked dumb founded comments and even vitriol from others. Sad.

If It's happened, its happened, and the focus should be on WHAT should we do as responsible punters.

One answer - get yourselves checked out.

[Bigus Dickus]

Marty you drama queen!  Just go and get tested. Stay off the minge for a couple of weeks and go for another one! 

So much speculation and you are probably healthier than the Queen, you dope!

I've seen a couple of test results from some ladies and they have been negative.

Everyone take a chill pill! There's going to be fucking tumbleweed blowing down puntertown soon with this shit!

Chances are some prossie has just uploaded her whole phone book to the clinic and you were on it at some point. You might not even punted with the person that passed on
your number!

 

[PLeisure]

This is crazy. There is no justification for anyone to be giving Marty a hard time. Are we all supposed to bury our heads in the sand and pretend infections never happen? It's a useful reminder that everyone should get tested regularly, its in everyone's interests that they do.

+1
Chill pills, everyone, please. We're all capable of being responsible and, in an attempt to spin something vaguely positive out of this, incidents such as this are timely reminders that we should all be regulars at our local GUM clinics.
Although my punting rate is deplorably infrequent, I'll certainly be booking in next week. No-one should be ignoring this situation.
Just as nobody should be be pointing accusatory fingers at other individuals. The available information is still unclear. Meanwhile, the responsible parties are taking positive steps to inform the community. Let's keep the information channels open, please.
 

[LL]

Marty, forward the abusive emails you got from prossies to admin so he can decide what to do about those.  I hope he bans the girls responsible.  You've done nothing wrong and don't deserve any abuse.

[punk]

this reminds me of the witch finder general


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[punk]

Marty, forward the abusive emails you got from prossies to admin so he can decide what to do about those.  I hope he bans the girls responsible.  You've done nothing wrong and don't deserve any abuse.

needs to look at one punter who sending abusive pm's as well.

[Clooney]

Yup.

[marty_mcfly]

Marty, forward the abusive emails you got from prossies to admin so he can decide what to do about those.  I hope he bans the girls responsible.  You've done nothing wrong and don't deserve any abuse.

I received them via my Twitter account. I feel like posting our texts so punters can see how evil this lady is. How I have been so cooperative with her and supported her and how nasty and selfish she has been. She is NOT any of the following:

Lindsey
Miss KDD
Violet Gray
Koa32
Lily Hart
Khloe Sexy Girl.

In fact, she is none of the girls I have ever posted a review for.

Just one girl so far. I earlier said escorts in order not to single her out or to give clues.

[marty_mcfly]

needs to look at one punter who sending abusive pm's as well.

That punter is Sylvester.

[Sylvester]

Jesus Marty, grow up.

I messaged you to point out that you first mentioned your STI text on a review thread for Elle, and that this had had unintended consequences for her.

You may not have intended it that way, but that is what has happened.  I further pointed out that you should think before you post, as by doing this you (inadvertently) created a link between her and YOUR problem.

If you are entirely happy with what you posted, then why did you get admin to remove the post?

I think it's a bit sad that you are trying to make out that you are the victim in all this, when it is your lack of consideration that could have created an actual, real problem for someone else, rather than the hurt feelings you claim to be suffering from.

[BadT]

Marty you drama queen!  Just go and get tested. Stay off the minge for a couple of weeks and go for another one! 

So much speculation and you are probably healthier than the Queen, you dope!

I've seen a couple of test results from some ladies and they have been negative.

Everyone take a chill pill! There's going to be fucking tumbleweed blowing down puntertown soon with this shit!

Chances are some prossie has just uploaded her whole phone book to the clinic and you were on it at some point. You might not even punted with the person that passed on
your number!

 

Id be interested if youd be so glib had you been on the receiving end of such a text...

[marty_mcfly]

Jesus Marty, grow up.

I messaged you to point out that you first mentioned your STI text on a review thread for Elle, and that this had had unintended consequences for her.

You may not have intended it that way, but that is what has happened.  I further pointed out that you should think before you post, as by doing this you (inadvertently) created a link between her and YOUR problem.

If you are entirely happy with what you posted, then why did you get admin to remove the post?

I think it's a bit sad that you are trying to make out that you are the victim in all this, when it is your lack of consideration that could have created an actual, real problem for someone else, rather than the hurt feelings you claim to be suffering from.

I only posted a link on Elle's thread because she was a victim of AW hacking and I believed I was too. My post had nothing to do with any STI. I asked admin to remove it because Elle wanted it removed as she thought it was affecting her business. There was nothing in that post that even remotely suggested anything STI related. I have had nothing but slaps in my face for being cooperative so far.

[punk]

This is going round in circles... OP has a twitter name that is the same as his punting one!!!!

[marty_mcfly]

Id be interested if youd be so glib had you been on the receiving end of such a text...

Am I allowed under UKP rules to post Twitter private messages? I have been too lenient so far and have received nothing but insults in return.

[punk]

Am I allowed under UKP rules to post Twitter private messages? I have been too lenient so far and have received nothing but insults in return.

Ask admin

[Clooney]

I am going to add to this...

This week and as I type, I am receiving abusive messages from Sylvester.

This guy is bad news.

Puddy cat, from now on communicate with me openly. I've had enough of your passive-aggressive, manipulative and controlling messages.

Warning me off Elle is one thing (however you like to do it, you are vetting this girl's clients - not good and not your place!) but outright abuse is another.

Admin, can you look at this guy please?

[claretandblue]

As well as a wake up call for people about getting tested this should also make people think hard before having the same username on here as awork and twitter

[marty_mcfly]

@sylvester Please read your PMs to me and note the tone. You have given me a big thrashing for ruining an SP'a business when I have not even remotely said anything against Elle. Do you want me to make these PMs public?

[Clooney]

I'm prepared to make mine public too. Let other punters decide if they are creepy or not...

[LL]

I'm prepared to make mine public too. Let other punters decide if they are creepy or not...

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[Sylvester]

I am going to add to this...

This week and as I type, I am receiving abusive messages from Sylvester.

This guy is bad news.

Puddy cat, from now on communicate with me openly. I've had enough of your passive-aggressive, manipulative and controlling messages.

Warning me off Elle is one thing (however you like to do it, you are vetting this girl's clients - not good and not your place!) but outright abuse is another.

Admin, can you look at this guy please?

Seriously?  You asked for my advice about whether she was 'your sort of girl'.  which I provided.  You then didn't respond, so I asked you not to ask for my advice again.  That's neither passive aggressive or abusive.  It's just a request.

You then chip in on here with a bit of bandwagon jumping, so I called you pathetic. 

Your response to this is to describe me as 'bad news'?  Really?  There are some pretty thin skinned folk on here....

[Sylvester]

Aaaanyway.   I'm out. 

[claretandblue]

I think these messages should be made public as this is just mud slinging

For what it's worth sylvster did message me about elle but I had no issue with the tone or content of those messages

[306]

As well as a wake up call for people about getting tested this should also make people think hard before having the same username on here as awork and twitter

[Sylvester]

I think these messages should be made public as this is just mud slinging

For what it's worth sylvster did message me about elle but I had no issue with the tone or content of those messages

Thanks - but I think it's worth pointing out it was in response to a PM from you...

[Clooney]

You said that "I am her master and she is not looking for another Dom"

Not your call to make. You are vetting her clients and exerting control per her.
That is controlling and manipulative.

I found it creepy and sinister. Frankly I didn't know HOW to respond to that!

Then you send me a hurt and ranting PM for not responding to the initial message in a timely fashion. Needy and creepy.

plus the PM this evening...

[Sylvester]

You said that "I am her master and she is not looking for another Dom"

Not your call to make. You are vetting her clients and exerting control per her.
That is controlling and manipulative.

I found it creepy and sinister. Frankly I didn't know HOW to respond to that!

Then you send me a hurt and ranting PM for not responding to the initial message in a timely fashion. Needy and creepy.

I tell you what, why don't you post the whole messages rather than extracts out of context?
plus the PM this evening...

[Sylvester]

You said that "I am her master and she is not looking for another Dom"

Not your call to make. You are vetting her clients and exerting control per her.
That is controlling and manipulative.

I found it creepy and sinister. Frankly I didn't know HOW to respond to that!

Then you send me a hurt and ranting PM for not responding to the initial message in a timely fashion. Needy and creepy.

plus the PM this evening...

Which you have also selectively misquoted....

[Clooney]

Online Sylvester
 
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« Sent to: Clooney on: June 03, 2015, 12:00:57 pm » ReplyQuoteDelete
Hey there

I'm going to give you a reasonably detailed, 2 part response that I thought was better dealt with via PM.  The first part is my view, and the second is Elle's (we speak so often I just thought it was easier to ask for her opinion - I hope you don't mind).

So I think Elle is great, as you probably picked up from the review.  I had never intended to write a review of her, because things have become very personal, but I wanted to help publicise her new AW profile.

We def have a sub/Dom thing going on - I am her Master, BUT - she is strong willed, cheeky, disobedient, and switches all the time.  To the extent that I'm not really sure she's all that sub.  She says as much herself - she used to be much more sub, but is gradually becoming more Dom.  All of this suits me fine -  I'm happy to play with her.  She misbehaves, she gets punished - lots of control and power play.  But she is not particularly disciplined, and actually much prefers verbal humiliation and degradation to discipline or training.  What she likes most is me telling her stories about what I'm going to do to her, I.e. Tie her up, throw her in the back of a van and drive her to an abandoned warehouse to be used by anaonymous guys - that sort of thing.  So in truth, I'm not sure she's what you're looking for.

I mentioned to Elle that you had asked the question, and she is familiar with your reviews your preferences.  Her response, which is very sweet (for me anyway!!), is that she has a Master and is not currently looking to be seriously Dommed by anybody else, so isn't sure it would work out just at the moment.  That's not to say that she doesn't like your style, because I think she does.  It's just the timing that's off.

I wanted to give you a detailed response for a number of reasons - I think the situation between me and Elle is a bit unusual and complicates things for another Dom.  I know that you have to search hard to find suitable girls - they don't grow on trees so I thought you deserved a full response.  And mainly, I like your reviews and your contributions - we've seen a number of the same girls, and I think you have exactly the right attitude.

I hope this helps, and you don't think I've blathered on or are being protective of Elle - which is why I have given you her response - this isn't me controlling her or limiting access, it's just her preference.  You are obviously welcome to contact her - and I would def keep her on your radar.

Happy to chat more if you'd like.  Also - I have a particular thing for seeking out subs who do not advertise it.  I happen to know of at least 3 popular girls working in Lomdon who have let me Dom them, but who do not advertise it at all, and who I feel privileged let me Dom them - lots of trust. I am happy to provide you with their names if you want to explore them, but with each I doubt you will be aw to go straight into Dom mode on visit 1...

S

[Clooney]

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« Sent to: Clooney on: Yesterday at 12:59:31 pm » ReplyQuoteDelete
Hey

You are welcome, by the way.

Given that you seem to pride yourself on the exacting standards you require from the girls you see, I can't pretend to not be a little disappointed that you chose not to extend the the courtesy of a response, particularly after I provided what I tried to make a detailed and helpful response.

Please do not ask my advice again.

S

[Clooney]

Online Sylvester
 
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« Sent to: Clooney on: Today at 08:38:47 pm » ReplyQuoteDelete
Doing a bit of bandwagon jumping?

That really is pathetic.  You fool.
Report To Admin

[Clooney]

Apologies to viewers and admin.

Can't work out how to post screenshots from
Phone to the messaging system.

[fredpunter]

Ffs .... can't be arsed to read all of sylvestors pms but really .... are you paying her? Then you are not her fucking master you poor deluded prick. But you do sound like you want to be her pimp.

[Hyperchicken]

Yeah I can see how that would come across as a bit creepy. I think the general consensus is that this is a punters site and things shouldn't be taken away and discussed with WGs. Seem to mention to close relationship a bit too often as well. Still, seems polite enough, apart from getting arsey about not getting a reply.

[Clooney]

Ffs .... can't be arsed to read all of sylvestors pms but really .... are you paying her? Then you are not her fucking master you poor deluded prick. But you do sound like you want to be her pimp.

SPOT.

FUCKING.

ON!

The only one who will suffer from this is poor Elle...

[OldAdmin]

Am I allowed under UKP rules to post Twitter private messages? I have been too lenient so far and have received nothing but insults in return.

If it's relevant, then yes.

[OldAdmin]

I haven't read this thread, only knew it existed just now when someone PM'ed me about it, I'd be much obliged if someone can provide summary of the drama if possible.

[Clooney]

It has veered dramatically off topic, but one member has been sending me and at least one other member abusive PMs which I chose to ignore at first.

the content of these to me is now on this thread, which look very much like the punter in question is vetting the lady's clients and thereby controlling who she sees.

[Clooney]

And for the record, I have never obsessively pursued this girl or anything like it. I asked on an open thread whether or not she'd be likely to be a good fit for me, and was told in PM response that she "is not looking for another master"

Not from the girl, but from the punter pruporting to speak on her behalf.

It seems that in the punter in question's head there is a "domestic" of some description. No idea how it appears to the girl. Her choice to see anyone she chooses to or not.

Not the role of a punter to seek to act for her.

[Sylvester]

And for the record, I have never obsessively pursued this girl or anything like it. I asked on an open thread whether or not she'd be likely to be a good fit for me, and was told in PM response that she "is not looking for another master"

Not from the girl, but from the punter pruporting to speak on her behalf.

It seems that in the punter in question's head there is a "domestic" of some description. No idea how it appears to the girl. Her choice to see anyone she chooses to or not.

Not the role of a punter to seek to act for her.

Ok.  There is no 'domestic' of any sort.  I think context is very important here - this was a PM in response to a question from a serious 'Dom', as to whether she would be a good fit.

When I say 'Master' I clearly mean in the context of paid sub/Dom play, which Clooney should well know as an experienced Dom.  Nothing more than that.  I find his feigned ignorance of this fact depressing, particularly given how he likes to pontificate on the sub/Dom dynamics at every given opportunity.

I make plain the reasons why I don't think she would be a good fit - in direct response to the question asked, with examples why I think it's so.  I added the girls view so as to make it clear precisely that I was not trying to deter him.  A fact which is now being twisted, as has much of this thread. 

In terms of my abusive messages to Clooney, where are they exactly?  He has acted in bad faith and disingenuously on this thread, in an attempt to cause me damage, by removing context, selectively misquoting, and outright lying.

This is nothing more than a spat in my view.  I think his behaviour is disappointing to what I still feel was a detailed, polite, and friendly response to a direct question.