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Sammy_the_bull

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Hi guys,

I am just wondering for the curiosity point of view.
I am curious.

Lets say a girl sees 2 punters a day @ £100.

and she works only 300 days in year.

200 x 300 =  £60000.

Now from my friend who used to run a place said some girls paid £150 for 24 hours of use for one room.

He also said some pay £90 per day.

He also said some pay £400 per week. That's 7 days.

Either way we look at it at gross rate of income a working girl seeing 2 punters day is £60k.

What do we feel is a realist number for working girl?

Now we can begin subtracting a lot of things. From drugs to pimps to travel etc.

BUT what is common with all jobs such as travel, lunch and uniform costs we can leave aside.

Drugs their choice.

Can we say an average girl makes £30k?

Share your thoughts.

Offline dizietsmae

?? speculation is exactly that, also who cares!

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there is another thread covering this.

Offline andyrou

Yeah, who does care? Or are you Mr HMRC in disguise?

Next we can work out how much we have spent during our punting career? I dread to think!

fredpunter

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there is another thread covering this.

I don't think the other thread included the info that there are 7 days in a week, no wonder I get tired by the end of it.

Offline daviemac

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Hi guys,


Can we say an average girl makes £30k?

Share your thoughts.

You can say what you want, I couldn't give a fuck.   :unknown:

Offline smiths

Hi guys,

I am just wondering for the curiosity point of view.
I am curious.

Lets say a girl sees 2 punters a day @ £100.

and she works only 300 days in year.

200 x 300 =  £60000.

Now from my friend who used to run a place said some girls paid £150 for 24 hours of use for one room.

He also said some pay £90 per day.

He also said some pay £400 per week. That's 7 days.

Either way we look at it at gross rate of income a working girl seeing 2 punters day is £60k.

What do we feel is a realist number for working girl?

Now we can begin subtracting a lot of things. From drugs to pimps to travel etc.

BUT what is common with all jobs such as travel, lunch and uniform costs we can leave aside.

Drugs their choice.

Can we say an average girl makes £30k?

Share your thoughts.

There is no way of knowing what a WG really makes as unless you know them personally as friends you aren't privy to such information, at least I am not anyway, plus its not my business so I don't care.

Offline madeinwales56

Best way to find out is ask the next prossie you visit if she will show you her self assessment tax return.

tallguy74

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Do they need to register for VAT if they go over the threshold, think its £75k...is VAT chargeable on sex anyway?

Offline tazz

Quite a few Polish prossies have told me they make over £100K a year, think most see at least 3 guys a day.

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Do they need to register for VAT if they go over the threshold, think its £75k...is VAT chargeable on sex anyway?

think it is £82k now.

I guess in theory yes unless sex is an exempt service

note to self to ask for a VAT invoice next time  :D

Offline berksboy

    Any good girl can earn 3G per week if she puts the work in .

Sammy_the_bull

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    Any good girl can earn 3G per week if she puts the work in .

I know a girl with RS4 + kid in private school + house fully paid off AND with decent accountant.

There comes a time where you need an accountant or its prison time.

Some decent responses so Thank you.

Offline charger70

Yawn! Who cares, and what does it matter? one gal may earn well in excess, and others a lot  less.

I fail to see why this keeps getting raked over.

Offline george r

if she worked 300 days a yr you would need a plank on your back to stop falling in !!

Offline berksboy

    You know very little about how a pussy works !

Offline threechilliman

This old chestnut again.

Who knows and who cares. Some will earn a lot, some will earn little and some will earn just what they need.

Next question.

tcm

Offline iPad3

The truth is most earn a half decent salary but are too stupid to capitalise on it, a few earn well and a few more earn fuck all.

Regardless I really couldn't give a shit and the only way that's gonna change is if I become a pimp!!

Toshiba

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The good /top notchers earn plenty and indeed want to

However many musnt earn much as a lot of them live in shit holes

Offline berksboy

        You can earn a lot and live in a shit hole , class A dont come cheep ! 

Offline NottsNylonLuvr

They're fucking men they have no interest in, risking their health & whatever else.
(Shit that sounds fluffy).
Who cares what they make?

Offline Boundless

think it is £82k now.

I guess in theory yes unless sex is an exempt service

note to self to ask for a VAT invoice next time  :D

Definitely not exempt as it's a service.

Offline peter_bungee

Every girl makes different amounts, different costs and priorities so this thread is pointless

All i know if most if not making good money while young and this is their sole income then they r doong something wrong , they should be compensated for the short term nature of this plus losing out in other ways

Offline MDB72

No interest in knowing what they make - nothing but speculation. Might as well ask how much an average punter earns a year
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Offline Zeusthedoc

Definitely not exempt as it's a service.

it may be service, but the product (pussy) is an essential
VAT is only applicable on anal.

Online Ipunter

Hi guys,

I am just wondering for the curiosity point of view.
I am curious.

Lets say a girl sees 2 punters a day @ £100.

and she works only 300 days in year.

200 x 300 =  £60000.

Now from my friend who used to run a place said some girls paid £150 for 24 hours of use for one room.

He also said some pay £90 per day.

He also said some pay £400 per week. That's 7 days.

Either way we look at it at gross rate of income a working girl seeing 2 punters day is £60k.

What do we feel is a realist number for working girl?

Now we can begin subtracting a lot of things. From drugs to pimps to travel etc.

BUT what is common with all jobs such as travel, lunch and uniform costs we can leave aside.

Drugs their choice.

Can we say an average girl makes £30k?

Share your thoughts.

I've thought about it, they can only really do a job like this for a few years really (between 20-30).. Some I do believe can make a lot.  If they offer incalls they have all associated bills for 2 places essentially, I don't think you could ever be "rich" being a escort but it's good while it lasts. I'd say 30k would be about right, you gotta remember most girls will take a week off every month too as well as having normal days off

Offline Anadin

I've thought about it, they can only really do a job like this for a few years really (between 20-30).. Some I do believe can make a lot.

But that's not even a little bit true. There's no shortage of over 30's and loads of WGs that have been doing this for more than a "few years" too.

Offline superchamp

Whatever they earn there's no doubt IMO that those girls that are constantly in demand due to UKP recommendations (Michelle, Cindy, Lindsey etc.) have UKP to thank for what is basically free advertising. No matter how good their service, without UKP they would be just another face on AW taking their chances. Likewise, thanks to UKP there will be girls that are back stacking shelves (or whatever the Romanian equivalent is).
Unfortunately I doubt if any of the above named WG's will be offering Admin or Nik a free punt any time soon by way of thanks.

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you gotta remember most girls will take a week off every month too as well as having normal days off

Don't bank on it have a read of saafe they just shove a sponge up and carry on.   :vomit:

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Don't bank on it have a read of saafe they just shove a sponge up and carry on.   :vomit:

Oh is that actually a thing lol

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Offline charger70

Regarding the OP's calculations, perhaps take a look at this thread, might prove enlightening.
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fredpunter

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All complaining its quiet but probably all horrified if you suggested reducing their prices or removing some of their obstacles to trade.

If you're quiet next week ladies make me an offer mwa.

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All complaining its quiet but probably all horrified if you suggested reducing their prices or removing some of their obstacles to trade.

If you're quiet next week ladies make me an offer mwa.

I think maybe they should start dropping rates if they're quiet. But if you try to haggle them they instantly block you... Well that's what they say. Has anyone had any luck offering a WG less?

Offline Zeusthedoc

I think maybe they should start dropping rates if they're quiet. But if you try to haggle them they instantly block you... Well that's what they say. Has anyone had any luck offering a WG less?

Many years ago I had a regular, seen her maybe 2/3 times a week for about 3 or 4 months.... Real dynamite girl. She jacked up her prices and I only say her once or twice after that....

Few weeks pass (I was away on business) where I hadn't seen her. Called her kit of the blue one night and told her I couldn't get to a cash point and could u still come n see her. I'd pay her the next time.......she agreed. I tried calling once or twice after that and she didn't answer. Then her number got d/c....I guess that's a bit of a discount, no?

Offline Sonny Crockett

I couldn't care less!!!!! All that matters to me is that I have a great time in my punts!!!!!!

Offline Zeusthedoc

Many years ago I had a regular, seen her maybe 2/3 times a week for about 3 or 4 months.... Real dynamite girl. She jacked up her prices and I only say her once or twice after that....

Few weeks pass (I was away on business) where I hadn't seen her. Called her kit of the blue one night and told her I couldn't get to a cash point and could u still come n see her. I'd pay her the next time.......she agreed. I tried calling once or twice after that and she didn't answer. Then her number got d/c....I guess that's a bit of a discount, no?


fuck me i just re-read my message....reads like a 3 year old immigrant with no english skills.
basically, had a regular, fucked her once telling her that i would pay her the next time, she never answered her phone after that!

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fuck me i just re-read my message....reads like a 3 year old immigrant with no english skills.
basically, had a regular, fucked her once telling her that i would pay her the next time, she never answered her phone after that!

 :) Happens to us all, use preview before you post. Then modify after if still not correct.

Offline Zeusthedoc

:) Happens to us all, use preview before you post. Then modify after if still not correct.

would have been fine - i wrote that one on the phone.
between predictive text and the fucking tiny shit bag phones (compared to a keyboard) - and my fat fingers...i may as well stick using the computer!

Offline Owwhatanight

would have been fine - i wrote that one on the phone.
between predictive text and the fucking tiny shit bag phones (compared to a keyboard) - and my fat fingers...i may as well stick using the computer!

Don't you just hate predictive text

Offline Zeusthedoc

Don't you just hate predictive text

Duck predictive text!

(you see what i did there?)

broksonic

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As long as she pays her taxes , I don't care how much income a WG is getting

henrynorth

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There is no answer to this one.

I have several friends in the escort/massage/Dom/sex party industry and even they could not tell you what an average is.

An escort pal of mine lives in Crete. She comes over to the UK and works the summer for an agency and in a parlour. Her earnings differ every year....... As long as she makes enough to live back in Crete for the winter she is happy.

Another friend is a very successful Dominatrix. Detached house in the country, car etc. she runs her business successfully.

On the downside I know of one or two ladies I have met who seem to struggle financially no matter how many punters they see.

But like the arseholes who win millions on the lottery then are skint after a few years....... Fuckin idiots.

SirFrank

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I can't believe Sammy the bull has been banned. I never saw the one coming....

Quesadilla

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The very best service providers in my experience have a real day job and see only one or maximum two clients per day outcall only - generally for multiple hour bookings.  Sure they will have weeks where they have a few days of not much happening, but they will also get overnights and the occasional weekend or longer paid trip from regulars which will bump their income a fair bit. 

I would guess based on what they tell me that some of the top girls are averaging at least £350 per day over a six day week.  Working 45 weeks a year would put them in the vicinity of £90-100k.  These are all outcall only girls as I said so no cost for an incall location.  And of course this £90k is above and beyond their regular salary from their day job. 

If they decide to go full time then they need to pay for an incall location (in my experience most have a separate incall location from where they live) so you could have overheads anywhere from £25k to £40k per annum depending on location. But now you are looking at a full time gig so there is potential to fit in more clients.  It's clear from this site that there are far more punters available to wg's who offer incalls compared to those offering outcalls so I'd say even after overheads a decent incall service provider should still be earning £50k-75k a year easily - which is more than double what the average woman in this country earns and for much less than half the average working hours.   

That said I think there are natural self-limiting factors.  Even if you have a stream of decent regular clients I'd say that seeing more than two or three clients per day is likely to end up in burnout or dropping service levels.  Certainly I had one reg who I was very close to who confirmed that although she was earning around £100k a year at one point she found the work so stressful she ended up blowing most of it on booze / coke to get her through it. Eventually (wisely) she quit before it got too much for her. 

I base the above speculation on my own conversations with regulars - and I do focus on seeing only really good quality service providers.  I'm sure there is a large proportion of wgs who are not that savvy and not that good who will be earning somewhere nearer £30k-50k per year - but that's still more than they could conceivably make any other way and for considerably fewer working hours.

Bottom line is that it can be good money for relatively little work and gives them the flexibility and free time to do other things which is why so many girls do it.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2015, 10:43:08 am by Quesadilla »

Offline GreyDave

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The best ones only see one or two clients a day. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: What aload of fluffynes :D :D

The good ones are at parties 40-50 guys can be done by some of these lasses or the walk ups ..

I have que`d at several walk ups and chatted with the maid in the past month, these girls can pop you in less than ten mins if you let them I reckon some are seeing 40-60   (in fact the maid is there to encourage the girl to pop you in and out asp..)
of us and chagring 20-40 ago so do the math ok I do it approx 800-1200 a day ..one girl I was obsesed with who I saw 3-5 times a week on Cambridge circus before they turned it in to trendy cafes ect told me one day there she had had 80 guys and had made 1500  :scare:
And was looking forward to the next day...
We should not kid oursevlfs that we are their special punt ..money from slot in wall to her, dick in her slot for cash thats it not more :hi: :hi:
« Last Edit: June 14, 2015, 04:26:48 pm by GreyDave »

Offline NIK

I can't believe Sammy the bull has been banned. I never saw the one coming....

It's only after he was banned that I researched his posts and found out what a load of bull they were. Obviously a troll who escaped me but not Adam!

Quesadilla

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:hi:

The best ones only see one or two clients a day. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: What aload of fluffynes :D :D

The good ones are at parties 40-50 guys can be done by some of these lasses or the walk ups ..

As I said I was speaking from my own experience - I do appreciate there are different types and styles of punting - but I'm personally only talking about those delivering GFE/PSE type experiences - not walk ups or pump-n-dumpers. Not dissing them - to each their own but that's a totally different type of wg which I know nor care nothing about. For me personally I would rather have a wank than a pump-n-dump as that's not why I punt - and the thought of shagging an escort who's been fucked by 40 other guys the same day is an instant turn-off anyway.

As I say my regs either have day jobs or are students and could not physically fit more than one or two clients a day in most days.  I am satisfied they aren't simply making these jobs/studies up having had lengthy discussions about them over 6 months or more, and tried to book them and know their availability patterns intimately.  Either they do have another occupation or they just laze around for 8 hours a day but they certainly have limited availability which is all the same to me.


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Yeah, some of them struggle. But those are the ones that have time on their hands to moan about it. I remember the girl who was caught with £73,000 in cash at her flat, and had paid a deposit of £360,000 so some of them do spectacularly well. And they don't boast about it on forums - at least not apart from those two dunces on Ch4 last month.


Offline DanDingle

This has got me thinking - what do you think they use as a company name when they're doing their self assessment tax returns? Pussy Galore LTD, Miss Dominatrix International?

Offline Rumpelstiltskin

In reality all wg earn very good money for the hours that they putting in compared to most other jobs out there.
The real skill is in managing their money long term and not blowing all of it while they are still young. Remember for lots of us our earnings tend to go up over the years and we can be earning more in our 50s than in our 20s, for most wg the opposite is true and their prime will be when there younger, then I suppose it's back to real jobs for them after that.
If they've been sensible then I'm sure they'll be either some money left or at least a decent asset like a house to fall back on.
Not sure what the pension scheme for wg is though :D