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Offline rthunderbird

1st year of uni: 18 going on 19.
2nd year: 19 going on 20.
3rd year: 20 going on 21.
4th year: 21 going on 22.

So her 22nd birthday lies somewhere between 1st September last year and 31 August of this year.

She might have been 22 for the last 9 months so could in theory have been webcamming legally for 4 years 9 months.

At the time of guide....21, says she at that point had been doing it for over 4 years.

Offline AnthG

The other option is, she is maybe being 'economic' with her stated age on her AW profile and she is 23, or 24 or something now and not 21.
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Offline rthunderbird

The other option is, she is maybe being 'economic' with her stated age on her AW profile and she is 23, or 24 or something now and not 21.

Quite possible, it would be silly to admit you were working underage in this industry.

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The other option is, she is maybe being 'economic' with her stated age on her AW profile and she is 23, or 24 or something now and not 21.
That's what I presumed, but for someone who claims to be intelligent it is a colossal fuck up to advertise she started under the age of 18; as there are two assumptions, she is telling the truth and started underage, she lies about her age.

Offline rthunderbird

That's what I presumed, but for someone who claims to be intelligent it is a colossal fuck up to advertise she started under the age of 18; as there are two assumptions, she is telling the truth and started underage, she lies about her age.

Its a no win scenario either way. If this was an old guide fine but as I said it was made a few days ago so....

Offline ProfessorYaffle

That's what I presumed, but for someone who claims to be intelligent it is a colossal fuck up to advertise she started under the age of 18; as there are two assumptions, she is telling the truth and started underage, she lies about her age.

The other possibility is that the "over 4 years" statement isn't accurate. Hell it could even be a typo and should have been "over 3 years".

Offline ProfessorYaffle

Its a no win scenario either way. If this was an old guide fine but as I said it was made a few days ago so....

No, that section has been on her profile since she created it or very soon afterwards, it's certainly not new.

Offline AnthG

Hell it could even be a typo and should have been "over 3 years".

If so she will have massive egg on her face after in her "newbie guide" making such an issue over ignoring anyone who messages her with any spelling and grammar mistakes. :)
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Offline rthunderbird

If so she will have massive egg on her face after in her "newbie guide" making such an issue over ignoring anyone who messages her with any spelling and grammar mistakes. :)

Yep still a no win scenario.

Offline the bloody butterfly

The knives are being sharpened for this Lily girl just because she had the temerity ask for decency when booking her.

Offline rthunderbird

No, that section has been on her profile since she created it or very soon afterwards, it's certainly not new.

My bad but even so the idea that she would have been working before 18 either webcamming or escorting would still be true......and like Anth says it makes her look hypocritical to judge grammar and spelling if she does not even proof read something that has some very bad implications.

Offline rthunderbird

The knives are being sharpened for this Lily girl just because she had the temerity ask for decency when booking her.

The knives are not being sharpened calm down. I still admire her ethic and her skills are highly rated.

Offline rthunderbird

No, that section has been on her profile since she created it or very soon afterwards, it's certainly not new.

Also the 'I'm back' section at the top of the page was written recently when she re activated her profile and with that it says she is 21 so yep. Not long ago did she claim to be 21.

Offline ProfessorYaffle

Also the 'I'm back' section at the top of the page was written recently when she re activated her profile and with that it says she is 21 so yep. Not long ago did she claim to be 21.

Ah ok, I thought you meant the bit about her webcamming experience.

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The knives are being sharpened for this Lily girl just because she had the temerity ask for decency when booking her.
I am going to drop the age thing, but I think it's not a case of respect. This is the only site to my knowledge where the term prossie is regularly used, it's a banned word on PN. And no punter sends an email saying "you free Tuesday man wants to stick it up your prossie ass" - it's a thinly veiled insult to this site and quoting from feminist sites to me shows a tenacity to go against men. Despite what people may think a feminist prossie is oxymoronic, as selling sex is largely a subservient act.

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My opinion for what it's worth on this thread (I haven't seen her )
Whenever we see wg/escorts we have to trust what they tell us or advertise otherwise we wouldn't see them!
Her age estimation is irrelevant really because theirs only a few people who can really confirm that she's actually a university student & 1of those is Lily( I'm not saying she's not a student)
When we visit any of the these ladies do we honestly think that they tell you everything about themselves were clients not boyfriends or f**k buddies, some will divulge details about their life outside of escorting & even then who knows if it's the truth?
Do we tell them everything about our lives?
We're paying for their time & hopefully we enjoy it.
Going  by her reputation she's a top performer but instead of making the most of her while we can we will do the good old British thing, trying to bring down what's good rather than enjoying the good things in life.
Flame away & call me a white knight but I've never seen Lily this is just my opinion

Offline rthunderbird

My opinion for what it's worth on this thread (I haven't seen her )
Whenever we see wg/escorts we have to trust what they tell us or advertise otherwise we wouldn't see them!
Her age estimation is irrelevant really because theirs only a few people who can really confirm that she's actually a university student & 1of those is Lily( I'm not saying she's not a student)
When we visit any of the these ladies do we honestly think that they tell you everything about themselves were clients not boyfriends or f**k buddies, some will divulge details about their life outside of escorting & even then who knows if it's the truth?
Do we tell them everything about our lives?
We're paying for their time & hopefully we enjoy it.
Going  by her reputation she's a top performer but instead of making the most of her while we can we will do the good old British thing, trying to bring down what's good rather than enjoying the good things in life.
Flame away & call me a white knight but I've never seen Lily this is just my opinion

Don't worry, I know you're not white knighting. I just thought it was worth a discussion. Especially about the word 'prostitute' in general, the age thing was just something we noticed along the way.

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It's a good discussion but how many other profiles are less than 100% accurate?
the word prostitute may fit the acts that they perform but like it's already been posted its  not a pleasant reference (that would be used by the older generation in my opinion.)
How many of the punters on the forum think we could realistically have a good time with these young ladies without paying for their time?
Show them the same respect as we expect from them & from my experiences everything works out well.

Offline rthunderbird

It's a good discussion but how many other profiles are less than 100% accurate?
the word prostitute may fit the acts that they perform but like it's already been posted its  not a pleasant reference (that would be used by the older generation in my opinion.)
How many of the punters on the forum think we could realistically have a good time with these young ladies without paying for their time?
Show them the same respect as we expect from them & from my experiences everything works out well.

My problem wasn't with people not using the word, as neither do I. More the fact that she would terminate the booking if it was used, as I said if you're a first timer you may not know the proper etiquette and then for that your booking is cancelled even if you're the nicest sap in the world. To me it feels like she is trying to disassociate herself with the word. Which I think is pointless, because ultimately she is a prostitute. That's not an offensive word, nor is it derogatory it is what she is because this is her profession at least currently. And if someone is offended by that then they should also be offended by sex worker or WG because they mean the same as prostitute. No more, no less. Its not derogatory because it just describes a job. Nigger for example is a derogatory word for a black person, much how whore is a derogatory term for a prostitute. Prostitute in and of itself is not derogatory and thus it is silly to be offended by it. Maybe not the best etiquette but not everyone, especially newbies is going to know that and I think you really should give people a bit more of a chance other than 'Nope, sorry. Your booking is terminated'.

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Lots of girls lie about there age or even what they do in there work life, part of the industry.

Offline Shyandrew2001

My problem wasn't with people not using the word, as neither do I. More the fact that she would terminate the booking if it was used, as I said if you're a first timer you may not know the proper etiquette and then for that your booking is cancelled even if you're the nicest sap in the world. To me it feels like she is trying to disassociate herself with the word. Which I think is pointless, because ultimately she is a prostitute. That's not an offensive word, nor is it derogatory it is what she is because this is her profession at least currently. And if someone is offended by that then they should also be offended by sex worker or WG because they mean the same as prostitute. No more, no less. Its not derogatory because it just describes a job. Nigger for example is a derogatory word for a black person, much how whore is a derogatory term for a prostitute. Prostitute in and of itself is not derogatory and thus it is silly to be offended by it. Maybe not the best etiquette but not everyone, especially newbies is going to know that and I think you really should give people a bit more of a chance other than 'Nope, sorry. Your booking is terminated'.

If you have read the profile properly, as I would expect you would or at least should, then the fact she has written that on her profile you know not to call her a prostitute and the booking won't get cancelled, perhaps that's why she's written that section?

This whole thread seems a little pointless in my opinion. It's quite clear the profile is run and written by Lily. Therefore she can put whatever text she likes, she can use whatever pictures she likes and she can charge whatever rates she sees fit. And if you don't like or agree with anything on her profile it's quite obvious that all you need to do is not book to see her. Bitching about it or whatever the aim of this thread is is pointless.

Offline rthunderbird

If you have read the profile properly, as I would expect you would or at least should, then the fact she has written that on her profile you know not to call her a prostitute and the booking won't get cancelled, perhaps that's why she's written that section?

This whole thread seems a little pointless in my opinion. It's quite clear the profile is run and written by Lily. Therefore she can put whatever text she likes, she can use whatever pictures she likes and she can charge whatever rates she sees fit. And if you don't like or agree with anything on her profile it's quite obvious that all you need to do is not book to see her. Bitching about it or whatever the aim of this thread is is pointless.

Then you've missed the point of this thread. The thread was there to discuss if prostitute was an offensive word or not. Some people think so and some people don't, I've real yet to see any justification to see why it is offensive but hey ho. If she wants to be offended by it fine, her choice. However I've been seeing this PC bullshit a lot and I really don't see how it is an offensive word and that's what this thread is about. The only reason lily is mentioned is because I found it on her profile and decided to use it as an example.

Offline Shyandrew2001

"Use the word 'whore' 'prostitute' or any variation of the two....... will result in the termination of the booking"

Hahaha seems someone is in denial about what they do, you're not exactly selling vacuum cleaners *Dives for cover before the white knights come*

I know it doesn't seem post worthy but I thought it was quite funny and worthy of a little discussion.

That's the original post from the thread. I see nothing there that suggested you were starting a debate as to whether prostitute is an offensive word or not? And if that is even why the thread was originally started the majority of the 4-5 pages seem to have been spent nit picking unnecessarily over aspects of Lily's profile. Just all seems a little pointless really no?

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That's the original post from the thread. I see nothing there that suggested you were starting a debate as to whether prostitute is an offensive word or not? And if that is even why the thread was originally started the majority of the 4-5 pages seem to have been spent nit picking unnecessarily over aspects of Lily's profile. Just all seems a little pointless really no?

There is a lot of nit picking that goes on with a lot of threads in general really!

Offline rthunderbird

That's the original post from the thread. I see nothing there that suggested you were starting a debate as to whether prostitute is an offensive word or not? And if that is even why the thread was originally started the majority of the 4-5 pages seem to have been spent nit picking unnecessarily over aspects of Lily's profile. Just all seems a little pointless really no?

"Worthy of a little discussion" - And guess what discussion happened did it not? The post was to question her judgement on the word and then we had a discussion as forums generally do.

Offline PlasticGeordie

Well, we can either love Lily (virtually everyone who has actually seen her) Or pick at her (virtually all those who have not actually seen her)

But we certainly can't ignore her.

Offline AnthG

That's the original post from the thread. I see nothing there that suggested you were starting a debate as to whether prostitute is an offensive word or not? And if that is even why the thread was originally started the majority of the 4-5 pages seem to have been spent nit picking unnecessarily over aspects of Lily's profile. Just all seems a little pointless really no?

To be honest I think this is a really good and interesting topic.

I say this along the lines both in the sense of that Lily has actually created that guide of what will cause her to ignore a message from the punter. And also the fact that from a punters eyes its pretty minor and petty what she will use to ignore you (and before anyone thinks this is Lily bashing, its not as its pretty obvious she is not unique, she is just the only one being honest about it).

There is a topic going on in the main board at the moment asking why WGs just read a message and don't reply.

Why do they do it ? 

And like I say in my topic, I worry, if its a girl I know its genuine, its because I have said something off in my message that has either been misconstrued, or I have inadvertently came across as possibly a bit creepy.

What Lily has (inadvertently) done with her guide is shown how petty WGs are. She will ignore someone for pretty minor infractions in their message to her. And yet as also this topic has shown. She is far from perfect in making things clear in her writing skills.

In my opinion pretty much every single punter and WG in the north east will read this topic because its about Lily, and this fact of how silly her "I will ignore you if" rules that she and likely many other WGs devise up are.

One of the worst things about booking independents is this situation and feeling. Which this topic is about the sillyness of why WGs will do it. But the ultimate effect of often really knocking a new guys confidence as he will think he came across as creepo number 1 and not often understand why. Lily being honest enough saying she will ignore you for petty reasons is pretty telling of this industry.

What is worse though is when it happens with someone who you know is genuine. As you start thinking "what have I said wrong, have I appeared creepy, or could she have misconstrued what I asked or said" And you start running your head through the worst things.

I agree. However the reality is that many of them just give you the silent treatment. This is what I worry about when I do not get a response from WGs regarding their availability!!!!!
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Offline domino999

This whole thread seems a little pointless in my opinion.

And if you don't like or agree with anything on her profile it's quite obvious that all you need to do is not book to see her. Bitching about it or whatever the aim of this thread is is pointless.

You mention not to bitch and whine on about something your not happy about, however in the same breathe your complaining the topic is pointless.

By the same token of not booking her if you have a problem with what's written, same goes, no one's forcing you to read or comment on this perceived drivel.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2015, 12:34:33 pm by domino999 »

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Lily D = the new Tawny Steele but with a fan club.


Pimpmasterflex

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How can you be in denial about what you do you are a prostitute and a filthy popular one at that. No disrespect but gets me why half these have rules I have not yet met one that sticks by them .