OWO

[greychap]

I have known of people to catch things from owo, I have had girls say to me they either have stopped offering owo because they had caught something so will only do safe from now on or know other girls that have caught something from punters and its turned them off and they wont do it now.

Most punters want owo now days so its hard for girls coming into this industry wanting to do everything safe when most punters want it without.

I remember years ago there was not that many girls offering owo or cim and those that did the other sex workers looked down on and would say there dirty to offer it as it spreads infections well look how the tables have turned a lot of the workers now do it and say its not that risky, they would have to say that now if there offering it though wouldn't they.

[bod666]

Does it reduce the risk if the girl swills her mouth out with mouthwash before and after every punt?

Now that my nsu has gone away I'm back to owo again - but am aiming to cut down on my punting. The difficulty is some girls are just down there and on the old chap before you can do anything, and I'm not going to say "no stop sucking my cock," tricky.

The girl I'm seeing at the mo does mouthwash religiously so that should make it safer (I'm hoping).

[LL]

Does it reduce the risk if the girl swills her mouth out with mouthwash before and after every punt?

Now that my nsu has gone away I'm back to owo again - but am aiming to cut down on my punting. The difficulty is some girls are just down there and on the old chap before you can do anything, and I'm not going to say "no stop sucking my cock," tricky.

The girl I'm seeing at the mo does mouthwash religiously so that should make it safer (I'm hoping).

I think that would help avoid bacterial infection but not a viral one. However ask at a GUM clinic for a proper answer you're only going to get guess-work from everyone here.

As far as OWO goes just make a decision about whether you're prepared to risk it or not and stick to it. If you feel it's risky yet find it tricky to tell the girl to stop after she's initiated it, just state your preference at the beginning of the punt. When handing over the money - "please use a condom for oral". Easy.

[Toshiba]

ive had a couple of covered bj, and to be fair they were decent

[Watts.E.Dunn]

Yes, no OWO isn't the end of the world and a fellow punter has copped a dose due i suspect to OWO which isn't quite as safe as we might think it is.

Sure its less risky than unprotected vaginal or anal intercourse, but its still a risk..

[LL]

Yes, no OWO isn't the end of the world and a fellow punter has copped a dose due i suspect to OWO which isn't quite as safe as we might think it is.

Sure its less risky than unprotected vaginal or anal intercourse, but its still a risk..

For a lot of people here OWO is essential and many don't enjoy covered oral at all.  For me personally - I enjoy covered oral almost as much as uncovered.  It's actually better for me in terms of being able to last longer. E.g. in 69 position if I'm not covered then I'm going to shoot pretty darn quickly!  The only thing I'll miss about going back to covered again (if I decide to continue punting I mean) is having a chance to CIM and watch her swallow it.  That was a twisted fantasy of mine that I managed to fulfil just a couple of times before my incident put a stop to that.  I'll have to find a new way to get my kicks.  Facials are equally filthy so maybe that's the way forward for me.

[Grumbleguts]

Any prossie doing owo and cim is a ticking time bomb. Dont really know averages, but think how many cocks your average prossie services each week, and it only needs one infected punter. Sloppy b/j sounds great, but personally i shy clear of any prossie that offers any unprotected oral

[greychap]

I think that would help avoid bacterial infection but not a viral one. However ask at a GUM clinic for a proper answer you're only going to get guess-work from everyone here.

As far as OWO goes just make a decision about whether you're prepared to risk it or not and stick to it. If you feel it's risky yet find it tricky to tell the girl to stop after she's initiated it, just state your preference at the beginning of the punt. When handing over the money - "please use a condom for oral". Easy.

From what I read it can be unsafe more so if a wg brushes her teeth or uses strong mouth wash after doing owo so a smart wg would not do that after a punt before the next one but then if not the remains of guy before is left behind

[claretandblue]

Any prossie doing owo and cim is a ticking time bomb. Dont really know averages, but think how many cocks your average prossie services each week, and it only needs one infected punter. Sloppy b/j sounds great, but personally i shy clear of any prossie that offers any unprotected oral

you must have a very small pool to choose from,nearly all girls offer owo

[greychap]

Any prossie doing owo and cim is a ticking time bomb. Dont really know averages, but think how many cocks your average prossie services each week, and it only needs one infected punter. Sloppy b/j sounds great, but personally i shy clear of any prossie that offers any unprotected oral

A lot of the workers don't even want to really offer owo but they are pressured more so from punters and they get picked less if they don't. I tend to have ow on most punts now to be safe it is not worth the risk for me.

Some wg's who do offer owo will only do it if the bloke does not have any pre cum leaking as they class that as cim and want to stay a bit safer so want dry cocks.

[Type_O_Negative]

From what I read it can be unsafe more so if a wg brushes her teeth or uses strong mouth wash after doing owo so a smart wg would not do that after a punt before the next one but then if not the remains of guy before is left behind

What about a mouth wash with real vodka? Alcohol kills everything they say...

[Toshiba]

this can all be summed up easily

its a risk.............is it a risk you wanna take, can you deal with giving your partner a STD?, can you imagine losing everything for the sake of a hood?

if you are happy still to do it, crack on 

[greychap]

What about a mouth wash with real vodka? Alcohol kills everything they say...
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No I started a similar thread in the northeast section about girls brushing there teeth and using mouthwash and the safest way is to just wash your mouth out with water, the mouth wash with alcohol from what I read is not good if you have just done owo needs to be left a good hour or more. Somehow it makes the risks higher of catching something especially going on to the next punter after teeth brushing and alcohol mouthwash.

[greychap]

this can all be summed up easily

its a risk.............is it a risk you wanna take, can you deal with giving your partner a STD?, can you imagine losing everything for the sake of a hood?

if you are happy still to do it, crack on 

I don't have a wife anymore but I am still careful now with the amount of STD's going about but there is no way I would do anything unsafe if I was married the risk is way too too high and your life could be ruined.

There is some good wg's out there that can still do a good blow job with a condom.

[Grumbleguts]

you must have a very small pool to choose from,nearly all girls offer owo

Sure, not as big a choice, but feel a lot more confidant with a girl who understands the risks, and behaves responsibly. So many cim, owo time bombs out there, not worth the risk

[claretandblue]

Sure, not as big a choice, but feel a lot more confidant with a girl who understands the risks, and behaves responsibly. So many cim, owo time bombs out there, not worth the risk

fair enough, I enjoy punting in soho regularly so a lot of my punts are covered oral,owo is better but ow can still be pretty damn good

[greychap]

Sure, not as big a choice, but feel a lot more confidant with a girl who understands the risks, and behaves responsibly. So many cim, owo time bombs out there, not worth the risk

I totally get that, girls who do the cim are taking more risks as no doubt most blokes will want to come in there mouth if they offer it.

Its difficult to find a girl that just does ow but there is some that have stopped the cim or stopped sucking any guys that leak so even though still some risks not as bad as doing cim I suppose.

[LL]

Its difficult to find a girl that just does ow.

Ever considered Romanian girls? (Not joking).

[greychap]

Ever considered Romanian girls? (Not joking).

I would rather bite one of my balls off I am afraid

[Hyperchicken]

Why not ask for OW only when making the booking?

[LL]

I would rather bite one of my balls off I am afraid

Your loss 
(but also your choice).

[ProtocolDroid]

For me OWO is the best feeling there is, but due to stories similar to the ones generously shared here I've stopped doing it with WGs some time ago as well. It makes achieving two pops in an hour very hard (unless, perhaps, the WG is a true 9 or 10, but I have yet to discover where they are all hiding... ). As a result, I am slowly coming around to the idea that 30/45 min bookings are the way forward. Thinking about this some more, I have just realised that there's a slight silver lining, therefore: missing out on OWO will save me some pennies which I can use for other stuff

Oh, and one more thing...

There's often a lot of talk about how the majority of punters are married. But that doesn't stack up for me.  Why would a married guy be attracted to sex with a condom when in most cases they wouldn't be using one at home? The only thing I can think is that there must be a huge proportion who are not getting any sex at all. For sure that does happen, but I struggle to believe it's that bad.

The majority of punters and/or forum members may or may not be married or be in some other kind of LTR -- I don't know. However, ask yourself this: if you had a Lamborghini Huracan, wouldn't you like to take a Porsche 911 for a spin too every now and then? Maybe even try a Mercedes SLK 55 AMG?

[smiths]

A lot of the workers don't even want to really offer owo but they are pressured more so from punters and they get picked less if they don't. I tend to have ow on most punts now to be safe it is not worth the risk for me.

Some wg's who do offer owo will only do it if the bloke does not have any pre cum leaking as they class that as cim and want to stay a bit safer so want dry cocks.

As a WG is an adult it is 100% her responsibility what she offers, its NOT in anyway a punters responsibility. If a WG doesn't really want to offer OWO but OW she should do so.

[LL]

Oh, and one more thing...
The majority of punters and/or forum members may or may not be married or be in some other kind of LTR -- I don't know. However, ask yourself this: if you had a Lamborghini Huracan, wouldn't you like to take a Porsche 911 for a spin too every now and then? Maybe even try a Mercedes SLK 55 AMG?

Yeh I wouldn't mind that.
I also wouldn't mind fucking a variety of different women upon occasion too 

[Duke of Earl]

I'd be interested to know how the risks of licking pussy compare to owo in terms of catching stds.

Are you really reducing your risks by much opting for ow if you still go down on her?

[NightKid]

For a lot of people here OWO is essential and many don't enjoy covered oral at all.  For me personally - I enjoy covered oral almost as much as uncovered.  It's actually better for me in terms of being able to last longer. E.g. in 69 position if I'm not covered then I'm going to shoot pretty darn quickly!  The only thing I'll miss about going back to covered again (if I decide to continue punting I mean) is having a chance to CIM and watch her swallow it.  That was a twisted fantasy of mine that I managed to fulfil just a couple of times before my incident put a stop to that.  I'll have to find a new way to get my kicks.  Facials are equally filthy so maybe that's the way forward for me.

Disregarding your personal comfort level, did the doctors mention any long-term implications or prohibitions from going back to OWO?

[ProtocolDroid]

I'd be interested to know how the risks of licking pussy compare to owo in terms of catching stds.

Are you really reducing your risks by much opting for ow if you still go down on her?

I don't do that either, for exactly the same reason.

[LL]

Disregarding your personal comfort level, did the doctors mention any long-term implications or prohibitions from going back to OWO?

No, the infection will clear up (hopefully it's gone already but I'll need to wait longer to be sure).
I just don't imagine I'd risk OWO again after this experience.

[purple_t]

OWO and FK are my "must have". If they are not on menu - no business from me.

+1

[Trevor12]

My story is much like his. Right now I'm suffering from an STI which I have contracted from OWO. I'll come forward so that others appreciate the risk involved. I have been punting for some years - check my reviews. In the last few weeks I decided to risk OWO but I have made a plan to get tested 2 weeks after each indulgence so that I would not put my regular partner at risk. On the fourth time I have gotten a bout of NSU - so not as nasty as what some have suffered but still very uncomfortable and also contagious though sexual contact. I have had to explain to my partner what I have caught and she might also have to visit a GUM clinic for tests too. Imagine that. My partner, actually my wife, doesn't know what I'm up to in my double-life as a punter. She wouldn't take the risks that I do. And yet she finds herself having to go through the same ordeal as me - to attend a GUM clinic and to endure the anxious wait for results. She's done nothing wrong - she doesn't deserve to be there. By some stroke of pure luck it's an NSU I've contracted rather than a similar infection linked to gonorrhea or chlamydia. By all intents and purposes it's the same. My only saving grace is that this type of infection can be contracted via non-sexual circumstances so I can continue to lie to my wife and maintain that I am faithful to her. Next time it could be more serious. Gonorrhoea or chlamydia and it's game over for me. No more comfortable life. No more happy families. I lose everything and it's gone forever. OWO isn't worth the risk for me and I'm seriously starting to wonder right now, with the current set of circumstances I find myself in, whether punting (my 50% success rate of positive experiences for 100% of my disposable income) is worth the risk any more.

LL, sorry to hear and thanks for sharing.

This, and a few other recent threads, are a reminder to guys like me that 'low risk' is still a very real risk. I've been lucky so far, but I will be re-evaluating the risk vs rewards of certain services for me before I return from my break from punting.

[tallguy74]

2 of my friends, who I'm 99% sure don't pay escorts for sex, have had STIs...

I've mainly only used escorts but never had an STI

So it can happen to anyone to be honest

[punk]

2 of my friends, who I'm 99% sure don't pay escorts for sex, have had STIs...

I've mainly only used escorts but never had an STI

So it can happen to anyone to be honest

Depending on what type,a condom may help.

[holyhandgrenade]

Does anyone know of WGs who only offer covered oral? I don't think I've ever come across one, certainly not independents anyway.  It's the sort of thing you usually find at organised RLDs. No easy way to filter for something like that when searching on AW either.

[punk]

Does anyone know of WGs who only offer covered oral? I don't think I've ever come across one, certainly not independents anyway.  It's the sort of thing you usually find at organised RLDs. No easy way to filter for something like that when searching on AW either.

just tell them you want a covered bj, not many will say no.

[Grumbleguts]

Does anyone know of WGs who only offer covered oral? I don't think I've ever come across one, certainly not independents anyway.  It's the sort of thing you usually find at organised RLDs. No easy way to filter for something like that when searching on AW either.

Sure any of the w/g's will offer covered b/j's if asked

[holyhandgrenade]

The key word was "only", as in the ones who flat out say no to owo. Do they still exist or do you stand no chance in the independent game if you're unwilling to do owo?

[NightKid]

No, the infection will clear up (hopefully it's gone already but I'll need to wait longer to be sure).
I just don't imagine I'd risk OWO again after this experience.

Yeah, I guessed as much. I probably might even consider stopping altogether myself if I were in your shoes, but that damn itch always comes back eventually ...
They should look to invent something to kill our sex drive whenever the testosterones start acting up, instead of wasting their time with these naff condom technologies that fails 1% of the time. 

Anyway, thanks for clearing that up and, again, glad to hear everything's now A-ok.

[Cuntminion]

This thread is all very sobering

Hard to decide my position on it as one hand I would say owo is the best part, the girl I see does not do cim so that's something

I don't punt around stick to same wg, I know that makes zero difference though

I don't know if I could stop owo

[purple_t]

The key word was "only", as in the ones who flat out say no to owo. Do they still exist or do you stand no chance in the independent game if you're unwilling to do owo?

There are a few Indies in my area who will only do covered oral

[RedKettle]

comments on here do make me pause for thought, but owo so good.......

[Grumbleguts]

Personally a w/g offering owo, deep throat etc is just as dangerous as bareback. All this low risk crap is bullshit

[OakTree]

Personally a w/g offering owo, deep throat etc is just as dangerous as bareback. All this low risk crap is bullshit

Really?... Thanks for that insightful misinformation. 

[claretandblue]

Really?... Thanks for that insightful misinformation.

haha +1 I wonder what medical book he found that nonsense in

[Grumbleguts]

haha +1 I wonder what medical book he found that nonsense in

Not from a medical book, just a chat with my GP. Maybee didnt explain very well. He said any fluid contact with a w/g is risky, and in his opinion there isnt a low risk option

[ampersand]

Not from a medical book, just a chat with my GP. Maybee didnt explain very well. He said any fluid contact with a w/g is risky, and in his opinion there isnt a low risk option

Time to find a new GP - your current one clearly doesn't know what he is talking about.

[Grumbleguts]

Time to find a new GP - your current one clearly doesn't know what he is talking about.

There is that option, but been with this practice a long time. Not the youngest of GP's, but the only one i feel at ease talking to. Anyway that's his opinion

[claretandblue]

There is that option, but been with this practice a long time. Not the youngest of GP's, but the only one i feel at ease talking to. Anyway that's his opinion

he sounds senile,of course owo carries a risk we all that but to put that on the same level as barebacking is laughable

[OakTree]

There is that option, but been with this practice a long time. Not the youngest of GP's, but the only one i feel at ease talking to. Anyway that's his opinion

And now yours...... So basically you don't have an opinion of your own, you just quote your local quack.

[greychap]

Personally a w/g offering owo, deep throat etc is just as dangerous as bareback. All this low risk crap is bullshit

Bareback sex is still worse then owo for catching stuff but owo and cim there is still many things you can catch and because so many of the girls do this now on a daily basis with so many people the risks get higher.

Even girls that do offer owo at discretion some are inspecting the cocks very carefully and picking and choosing, a lot that don't offer cim wont suck a guy without if he leaks pre cum that makes sense to me because if you don't offer cim why would you have pre cum in your mouth especially as I have been told some guys have loads of it and its very stringy.