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Author Topic: WG 'fined' by hotel - is this legal?  (Read 3933 times)

Online darkdeep

Any advice welcome.
Nice, friendly regular WG was busted at a Travelodge hotel in Greater London.
Sitting in room alone. Knock on door. Security enters and grabs her handbag to look for condoms. They tell her to get out, pay £150 or they will call the police.
She loses her stuff in the room, pays them and ends terrified on the street.

Is this actually legal? Looks like extortion to me.

Thanks

Not legal at all, sounds like some chancers who managed to cotton on to what she was doing and took advantage.

Offline pumps

sounds like she was scammed!

big time.

That bull goes on all the time. I'm surprised he didn't ask for a free blowjob as well.

A prossie getting scammed. Poetic justice ...

Offline Anadin

Yeah either she was scammed by the security guard or she's possibly embellishing what actually happened.


Offline Dilly1

So its now against hotel rules to have condoms in your possession?

Seems odd. Why would you set up in a Travelodge when your clients need a keycard to gain access.
There are loads of other hotels with no security

Any advice welcome.
Nice, friendly regular WG was busted at a Travelodge hotel in Greater London.
Sitting in room alone. Knock on door. Security enters and grabs her handbag to look for condoms. They tell her to get out, pay £150 or they will call the police.
She loses her stuff in the room, pays them and ends terrified on the street.

Is this actually legal? Looks like extortion to me.

Thanks

That's absolute illegal. The security has no lawful authority to search her belongings, the police can't even do that without probable cause or a warrant. :dash:

Also when did having condoms = prostitution?? What year is it? :mad: This is probably one of the most unjustifiable crap I have ever heard.

Offline Taggart

Got a funny smell about it.

You'd check the door spyglass before opening it. Security should show an SIA ID card. Why no scream if he burst into the room. Why claim looking for condoms - not illegal to posess.  Why no check with reception?


Online darkdeep

She has no idea how they knew (possibly her workmate who she argued with outed her).
Her English isn't good. Shy, genuinely nice girl. Police phobic (as many are).

Please PM me any recs for good hotels in Central.
I'm considering calling the police, I think it's extortion.


Sounds like a mythical tale to me.

Offline Ben4454

Actually security staff can search personal belongings if the person is asked and says yes when staying at a hotel. Just like when someone consents to a personal search before being given admission to the night club. When I do door work and I reasonably believe someone of having drugs I will ask to carry out a search. If they say no - I will call the police. However in the instance of condoms this is completely ridiculous. Perhaps the hotels policy was no escorting and if i was security i would have simply told her the rules of the hotel and that could she abide by them in future.

We do not know what happened although if the facts are true then yes this was illegal and if this was done in a public setting could be sued for defamation of character and security staff losing their licences. She would need evidence of this though which i doubt she might have.
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Offline Ben4454

On a further note - if she could prove that they fined her the hotel might be in serious trouble. Unless she was aware of the hotels policy against escorts and the fining she might get in the contract..she should not have been fined they do not have the authority.
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Offline nigel4498

I've never seen any staff at a Travel Lodge let alone security.

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When I do door work and I reasonably believe someone of having drugs I will ask to carry out a search. If they say no - I will call the police

That's the difference - you can't go searching people without their consent, only the police can do that.  You can only deny them entry, call the police, or perform a citizen's arrest if you reasonably believe they have committed a crime.  Security guards have exactly the same powers as any other member of the public.

If the story is true, it sounds like several offences were committed. Getting the WG to report them, or police to take them seriously is another thing altogether of course.

Offline Ben4454


The thing with citizens arrest also is it can only be done for a indictable offence. But yes relating to the arena of performing one the rules are that citizens must reasonably believe that a crime has been committed but a police officer only has to suspect that one has been committed.
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Offline spkmstr48

I've never seen any staff at a Travel Lodge let alone security.

Yeah what security, in a Travelogue, really?
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Offline Ben4454


I suspect maybe the management was confused with security staff or an actual scam had just taken place. I think she should of asked them to see ID. If they are in-house security they do not need SIA licenses but contract type security they would have SIA licenses around their necks.
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Offline JV547845

I've had a handful of great punts in various travel lodges but this sounds fucking awful.  I've never even seen security in a Travelodge before, did she really do nothing to piss of any other guests?  I've never read the small print when making a hotel booking before but they can surely only charge damages to your credit card afterwards once they've inspected the room?  Even then you here about hotel cleaners having to clean up some fucking rank situations.


Good knowledge Ben, thanks.

Offline smiths

Any advice welcome.
Nice, friendly regular WG was busted at a Travelodge hotel in Greater London.
Sitting in room alone. Knock on door. Security enters and grabs her handbag to look for condoms. They tell her to get out, pay £150 or they will call the police.
She loses her stuff in the room, pays them and ends terrified on the street.

Is this actually legal? Looks like extortion to me.

Thanks

I have stayed at many Travelodges and none had any security that I have seen. If the WG had no punter in the room but was alone they had no evidence at that time that she was a WG unless she said she was so threatening to call the police wouldn't of resulted in the police doing anything as she hadn't broken any laws.

A hotel can ask a guest to leave but being thrown out on the street and money taken off this WG sounds well dodgy to me.


Offline bunny84

Stayed at travelodge docklands London . Security came to out room case my mate messed with a smoke detector . They seen weed (we had not even smoked it yet) and said there's a £150 fine or we call the police . My mate told them to call the police . They never

Any advice welcome.
Nice, friendly regular WG was busted at a Travelodge hotel in Greater London.
Sitting in room alone. Knock on door. Security enters and grabs her handbag to look for condoms. They tell her to get out, pay £150 or they will call the police.
She loses her stuff in the room, pays them and ends terrified on the street.

Is this actually legal? Looks like extortion to me.

Thanks

If true, I think the wg should contact the press, and let the press contact the hotel or even there head office, now I would assume the wg can prove she had stayed there overnight, and the hotel will have recorded her checking out

This would be bad publicity for the hotel chain...Newspaper headline: security force entry and search handbag, once the item appears in the paper, I think the police would take an interest in this story

I wonder what outcome the wg would get if she contacts the head office, but to do this she would have to admit, she was using this room to see clients, which would be against the hotels rules, but in saying this security entering her room and searching her bag, isn't going to go down well, and I could see the hotel offering compensation, for her not to tell her story

I don't think she has anything to lose by even going to the police, just be honest with them, tell them you were using the room for incalls, and security have robbed you; I think if anything hotel security are the ones who would be in trouble with the law


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