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Author Topic: Should it be illegal to pay for sex in the UK?  (Read 6673 times)

jimmychunga

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It soon will be in NI

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Just had a look at the NI section of UKPunting seems pretty bleak already !!

If that law introduced over here would it change your behaviour?

Offline backofthenet

were you expecting many people to say yes?

Offline myothernameis

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Just had a look at the NI section of UKPunting seems pretty bleak already !!

If that law introduced over here would it change your behaviour?

Follow family guy, guide on how to pay for sex and get away with it

Its a porno

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Offline Punting Valley

Another one of these ..... :dash: :dash: :dash: :dash:

NO it won't be illegal. They tried, last year, and they failed! A labour MP proposed this amendment to the modern slavery bill, but it was opposed by others (including many of her fellow labour MPs) and got voted down.
And NO even if labour forms a government tomorrow they will need a majority (which they won't have) to push this kind of bill through the parliament, so GB is safe for at least another 5 years.


Offline backofthenet

Another one of these ..... :dash: :dash: :dash: :dash:

NO it won't be illegal. They tried, last year, and they failed! A labour MP proposed this amendment to the modern slavery bill, but it was opposed by others (including many of her fellow labour MPs) and got voted down.
And NO even if labour forms a government tomorrow they will need a majority (which they won't have) to push this kind of bill through the parliament, so GB is safe for at least another 5 years.

excellent.

Offline Sonny Crockett

It should never be illegal to pay for sex!!

You'd be depriving men of their most basic needs!!!!

It would be a crime against humanity!!!!!!!!

Ben4454

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If they ban it they will have to ban pornography as well. Since women are being paid to do sexual acts on camera. I cannot see how filming the act opposed to not filming it would change anything.

Mia de Faoite's arguments are weak and do not represent the majority of escorts in the uk. A lot of them are happy in their job and choose to do it.

Just as an update: feminists in Sweden are currently debating banning pornography.
« Last Edit: May 06, 2015, 09:54:48 pm by Ben4454 »

JV547845

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You came to the wrong forum mother fucker, to ask this shit OP

Offline closeshave

itll be a breach of my human rights



spkmstr48

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itll be a breach of my human rights

Just another reason why I'll be retiring to Germany. :drinks:

Offline Punting Valley

itll be a breach of my human rights

ECHR article 8 the right to private life.

Max Pleasure

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It won't become illegal in the UK in my opinion because the SNP didn't support the move in Scotland, and Labour will need their support for most legislation if it comes to a coalition.  The Tories have no interest in passing such a bill, and the Lib Dems would, I think, have regard to the repercussions and also not support it.  Just my take on it.

Online jackdaw



If that law introduced over here would it change your behaviour?

I think that second question is the more interesting one.

It wouldn't change mine. I would continue to pay for time and companionship only...but not be surprised when sight of my naked body drove WG "wild with passion".

No...seriously...now I'm an old semi-retired punter with ebbing juices I might just be swayed by a ban. I would certainly have worked round it when younger.

Offline S.X. MacHine

Yeah, the Tories don't care and he Greens positively support liberalisation of prostitution laws so that they can tax it. Bastards.
Labour's vile Harriet Harman will certainly try for the 'Swedish model' if her lot get in.  So the message is clear; if you want to keep punting, vote to keep Labour out today. Remember, '..if you want a prozzie for a neighbour, don't vote Labour...'.

Tony Montana

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Yeah, the Tories don't care and he Greens positively support liberalisation of prostitution laws so that they can tax it. Bastards.
Labour's vile Harriet Harman will certainly try for the 'Swedish model' if her lot get in.  So the message is clear; if you want to keep punting, vote to keep Labour out today. Remember, '..if you want a prozzie for a neighbour, don't vote Labour...'.

+1

Offline Hungarian Lover

Well given the election result we will not see men paying for sex being against the law,two fingers to that interfering Labour mob trying to stop my enjoyment!

spkmstr48

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Well given the election result we will not see men paying for sex being against the law,two fingers to that interfering Labour mob trying to stop my enjoyment!

I wonder how significant a factor it was in the result?

Offline Punting Valley

I wonder how significant a factor it was in the result?

No punting ban by tories which is good, but we will probably get some more porn ban in return :dash:

Offline CardiffCentral

No punting ban but they're full speed ahead regarding passing the so called snoopers charter bill.  There will be metadata out there linking you to AW and everything else, all collated in one handy to access date set that will be legal to use against you.  Thank you Theresa May.  And don't worry folks, if you haven't done anything wrong in the eyes of your typical middle England Tory voter, you won't find yourselves gracing the pages of the Daily Mail.

Also, if we vote out of the EU, there'll be far few European WG's here and prices will rise as a consequence.  I guess austerity will push more bloated home grown brits into the sex trade so that's a semi-positive.    :dash:

Offline smiths

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Just had a look at the NI section of UKPunting seems pretty bleak already !!

If that law introduced over here would it change your behaviour?

Thankfully with Harriet Harridan now not going to be in government I hope her crusade with her fellow femi-nazis will be an uphill battle to criminalise punters in England at least. One more reason among many that I am glad Labour didn't win.

Offline Itsnotshy

NO.Its consensual sexual activity between adults in private.A womans motivation be it love,lust,ambition or greed is irrelevant as long as she is freely consenting.Let the police concentrate on rapists,pedos and pimps.

Offline NIK

It soon will be in NI

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Just had a look at the NI section of UKPunting seems pretty bleak already !!

If that law introduced over here would it change your behaviour?

No.

spkmstr48

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No.

With an indie let the fuckers prove it's a crime

Poorly conceived and unenforceable, glad the reds lost in England!!!

Offline Horizontal pleasures

Should it be illegal to pay for sex in the UK?

Yep, it should be illegal to pay for sex, it should be freely available to all.

Offline AgedCases

Ah, but we're not paying for sex are we? We're paying for the company.

Offline Punting Valley

Should it be illegal to pay for sex in the UK?

Yep, it should be illegal to pay for sex, it should be freely available to all.

IT IS freely available to all, we are just paying for a guarantee. :lol:

Offline smiths

Ah, but we're not paying for sex are we? We're paying for the company.

No idea what you do, I am paying for sex, I don't need company.

Loverat

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No idea what you do, I am paying for sex, I don't need company.

You don't need company? Are you paying to do it on your own?

jcdmj12

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I wonder how significant a factor it was in the result?

It actually got me interested in politics for once, I'm probably not alone.

spkmstr48

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Should it be illegal to pay for sex in the UK?

Yep, it should be illegal to pay for sex, it should be freely available to all.

 :drinks:

Offline adindas

No.

Will not changemy behaviour as well ...

What they are going ot do . Put people in jail ??
Do they have enough space ???

Ben4454

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I gave my girlfriend £200 for her birthday we then decided to have sex afterwards.

Liar ! You paid her for sex. Criminal.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2015, 09:51:24 pm by Ben4454 »

Aspen

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Will not changemy behaviour as well ...

What they are going ot do . Put people in jail ??
Do they have enough space ???

They do in Sweden.

Must be more space there.

It'll be interesting to see how it's handled in NI. My guess is that they'll be quite aggressive through the summer, simply to justify the law's existence.

Offline anonyorks

Making it illegal makes it more dangerous for both us and WGs. It will never happen here (crosses fingers).

Offline Itsnotshy

Fine ,can't or refuse to pay =Jail.Sex offenders register regardless.That would be my guess.lifestyle fascism!Shouldn't happen under Tories though.Should be safe for 5 years.

Offline Itsnotshy

Damn computers!I will get my coat!

Offline smiths

They do in Sweden.

Must be more space there.

It'll be interesting to see how it's handled in NI. My guess is that they'll be quite aggressive through the summer, simply to justify the law's existence.

Previous laws around prostitution such as brothels and the street scene which have been wholly illegal for many years yet in some areas thrive and have for many years means
 my logic tells me IF the police in areas where the top cops allow those to operate which are the easiest to catch pimps and for the street scene, WGs and punters, they aren't going to aggressively go after punters who punt with Indies which would be much harder police work and more costly.

A law to criminalise punters is primarily to put punters off punting in the first place by scaring them in my view, something that would work with some punters as the risk as they see it would be too great, and in areas where the top cops have a zero tolerance to prostitution they might mount operations. Harriet Harridans coercion law in 2009-10 hasn't led to mass convictions, it WAS designed to scare punters off punting primarily.

The police prostitution lead Armett (may have changed now) said a year or two ago that he had no problem what adults did behind closed doors if consentual, so the government passing another law on prostitution by no means means for certain the police will enforce it, just as they don't with brothels in many areas. Though that COULD change at any moment of course, so having a law to wheel out at any time it suits the police certainly wouldn't be good for punters obviously.

Tony Montana

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The problem is that if it is legalised the councils will get involved in licensing brothel premises and there is bound to be draconian rules about where a brothel can be situated e.g. not within 5 miles of a primary school, not within 3 miles of a pub etc.

It will also be taxed heavily like other vices i.e. alcohol, smoking & gambling.

I prefer the situation as it is in Manchester and MK where decent brothels are tolerated and monitored.  Any breach of trafficking laws, signs of drug use, tax evasion, money laundering etc and they get raided and shut down.


Offline smiths

The problem is that if it is legalised the councils will get involved in licensing brothel premises and there is bound to be draconian rules about where a brothel can be situated e.g. not within 5 miles of a primary school, not within 3 miles of a pub etc.

It will also be taxed heavily like other vices i.e. alcohol, smoking & gambling.

I prefer the situation as it is in Manchester and MK where decent brothels are tolerated and monitored.  Any breach of trafficking laws, signs of drug use, tax evasion, money laundering etc and they get raided and shut down.

Indeed, once the council got their snouts in the trough prices would no doubt rise, it would also mean WGs would be known to be WGs by councils whereas at present a WG can be a WG for as long as she wants and then leave to start a new life without officially being known as a WG and the stigma that still holds.

In New Zealand I read only covered services like OW no OWO are on offer in legal brothels, from my selfish point of view I require OWO as OW does zero for me, so the present grey area is the best scenario although I would like to see WGs able to legally work together in the same premises without a pimp. In reality punting has had pimps involved in it all the time and I cant see that changing anytime soon though.

Offline regenmeister

I just wondered if anyone knew if there was a recorded correlation between making prostitution illegal and sexual assaults against women?

Offline Cuntminion

Nope I think it should be made legal, make it safer for all involved

I'm not coming at that as a liberal I'm quite centered, God forbid weed ever gets legalized and stuff like that, nothing would ever got done

I'm not even approaching thinking of myself

Just simply it would make it safer and lessen the exploitation that does happen sometimes

jcdmj12

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A punting ban is very unlikely to happen now the British Electorate have done the sensible thing and told the lefties to sling their hook.    Too many Tories are dirty buggers who exist on a diet of anal sex with Polish women delivered to their hotel room.

Anyway, after Osbourne has been at public services with his axe again, there won't be enough police resources to waste on this sort of crap.  Hopefully Dave will dismantle the State at such a rate the socialists wouldn't be able to start bossing people around again even if they got in again next time.

« Last Edit: May 11, 2015, 11:05:51 pm by jcdmj12 »

Offline Cuntminion

A punting ban is very unlikely to happen now the British Electorate have done the sensible thing and told the lefties to sling their hook.    Too many Tories are dirty buggers who exist on a diet of anal sex with Polish women delivered to their hotel room.

Anyway, after Osbourne has been at public services with his axe again, there won't be enough police resources to waste on this sort of crap.  Hopefully Dave will dismantle the State at such a rate the socialists wouldn't be able to start bossing people around again even if they got in again next time.

But did that reasoning sway your vote 8D

jcdmj12

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But did that reasoning sway your vote 8D
Yep, absolutely, pretty much the only reason I voted for them. Upsetting smug liberal Guardian readers was the other one.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2015, 01:15:17 am by jcdmj12 »

Offline Cuntminion

I don't mind politics but I think I avoided papers for two months whilst it was propaganda overdrive

Thoroughly enjoyed paxman tearing them apart though

Aspen

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Making it illegal makes it more dangerous for both us and WGs. It will never happen here (crosses fingers).

Who's really worried about the danger? Only the people who are exposed to the danger. No-one else is.

I saw a recording of an edition of 'this week' recently with Rupert Everett as guest along with Andrew Neill, Portillo and Abbott. He was expressing the view that it will be brought in, but very strongly opposed (he was on the game at one time).  That was worrying because he moves in well informed circles.

Offline Turtle1

It is illigal to pay for sex outright. We are paying for time and company. Anything thrown in is with consent between the Adults.

OldAdmin

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It is illigal to pay for sex outright. We are paying for time and company. Anything thrown in is with consent between the Adults.

I dearly hope you are joking. In case anyone thinks otherwise.

Aspen

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It is illigal to pay for sex outright. We are paying for time and company. Anything thrown in is with consent between the Adults.

I dearly hope you are joking. In case anyone thinks otherwise.

As of today in NI it is, so it's not a joke there, and the RoI is set to follow suit. The time and company excuse won't wash either.

Wait and see how many raids and stings there are. I expect there will be a few.