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Author Topic: Should it be illegal to pay for sex in the UK?  (Read 4917 times)

It would not affect me anyway, if I want to pay a prostitute then I will -------------- law or no law.     :hi:

so why don't you? I look forward to your review.

Offline Aspen

if punting is legal in the republic then if Ulster becomes one with the republic punting would be legal again .... ? I am fantasising.

Yes, you are aren't you. If you read the threads you'll know it's heading the other way. The republic is following the lead of NI. So soon it will be illegal thoughout Ireland.

This sort of thing is gathering too much momentum for my liking. A year or two ago I had a similar don't care attitude as JRC has, But I've since heard some stories about the practicalities of what happens in Sweden and Norway and I've changed my mind.
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Offline NIK

For fuck's sake!  :dash:
How many more times?
They can bring in all the laws they like but they will never stop something that had gone on throughout history.
All they will do will make it more hazardous for punters and prossies. :angry:
« Last Edit: June 01, 2015, 07:31:10 PM by NIK »

Whatever happened to live and let live.

Offline smiths

Whatever happened to live and let live.

The femi-nazis want that notion quashed under their jack-boots. :thumbsdown:

Offline Jimmyredcab

For fuck's sake!  :dash:
How many more times?
They can bring in all the laws they like but they will never stop something that had done on throughout history.
All they will do will make it more hazardous for punters and prossies. :angry:

Exactly my point.     :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi:

It may result in brothels closing down but it will never stop Indies operating ------------ you can't stop two adults carrying out a business transaction.    :hi:

How is the War on Drugs going by the way.    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

They would set up sting operations with WG PC taking g the booking.The fear of being caught would be a big deter ant just like kerb crawling.Be great got the crime statistics and rescuing all those slaves.

Offline comaminion

It soon will be in NI

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-32539648

Just had a look at the NI section of UKPunting seems pretty bleak already !!

If that law introduced over here would it change your behaviour?


Read the article Mia de Faoite is another self agenda driven fuckwit, the irony is the thing she is against is probably still paying her a living on the other side of the fence
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Offline NIK

They would set up sting operations with WG PC taking g the booking.The fear of being caught would be a big deter ant just like kerb crawling.Be great got the crime statistics and rescuing all those slaves.

Yes, they have the time and resources in this age of cuts to waste their time on this.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I reckon some of you actually want these fucking laws.

Offline Dani

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They would set up sting operations with WG PC taking g the booking.The fear of being caught would be a big deter ant just like kerb crawling.Be great got the crime statistics and rescuing all those slaves.

Then it would be a case of it they did this (they wouldn't as it would cost too much) men would revert to only seeing girls who are well reviewed by punters who have reviewed other girls.  That way they could be sure they were actually visiting a prossie.  Its simple and there are simple ways around it

Plus even if the police knows a prossie works form a certain premises they cannot prove the men going in and out have had sex let alone paid for it.  No prossie worth her salt is going to allow them access before hand to set up recording equipment (again they wouldn't do that anyway) so they would have no proof whatsoever of sex taking place let alone payment.
Again if the police harassed a girl for not grassing on her punters she could very easily put in a complaint and get the harassment stopped as it would be illegal for the police to harass a girl to get her to give evidence against someone.  I for one would bloody well make a complaint and would go to the bloody papers too if they did that to me as I wouldn't put up with them banging on my door every few minutes.  Its amazing what a complaint or two for harassment can do and they wouldn't be able to keep doing it as even the police are accountable for their actions in this country

Offline charlie sheen

Then it would be a case of it they did this (they wouldn't as it would cost too much) men would revert to only seeing girls who are well reviewed by punters who have reviewed other girls.  That way they could be sure they were actually visiting a prossie.  Its simple and there are simple ways around it

Plus even if the police knows a prossie works form a certain premises they cannot prove the men going in and out have had sex let alone paid for it.  No prossie worth her salt is going to allow them access before hand to set up recording equipment (again they wouldn't do that anyway) so they would have no proof whatsoever of sex taking place let alone payment.
Again if the police harassed a girl for not grassing on her punters she could very easily put in a complaint and get the harassment stopped as it would be illegal for the police to harass a girl to get her to give evidence against someone.  I for one would bloody well make a complaint and would go to the bloody papers too if they did that to me as I wouldn't put up with them banging on my door every few minutes.  Its amazing what a complaint or two for harassment can do and they wouldn't be able to keep doing it as even the police are accountable for their actions in this country

Yes, but how it would probably work is that the police would find popular wg who advertise and surveil their premises and nab the punter as he goes in or leaves. Arrest on suspicion and then get you to confess and pay a fine or risk prosecution. If you want to play smart with them they will have your personal details/mobile/cctv/electronic data from ISP/ATM cash withdrawal etc. I believe this is how it works in Sweden. Most punters will pay the fine rather than take it to court.

As for the stuff about a police not being able to prove that a man was buying sex, that's just la la land thinking. A jury don't need to see pictures of a punter shagging a wg to believe on the preponderance of evidence presented that he went there to have sex or engaged in sexual activity for payment.  Also, under the "Nordic Model" it's legal for a w/g to sell sex so the Police will ask her if she had sex with the man and she will of course say "yes" unless she herself wants to risk prosecution for no good reason.

Note, this is why the Nordic model is more "anti-punter" because in the US model both parties need to ensure they don't get caught to avoid prosecution and have mutual interest in complete discretion. The Nordic model criminalises one side so the police have a made snitch.

Whilst prosecutions are expensive you old need a few and some press releases to instill a bit of fear and that's all it's supposed to be a legal deterrent on the demand side.
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Offline tazz

Laws in the USA which make it illegal doesnt stop punting in brothels, agencies and on the street. Given how over crowded prisons here are and the lack of respect for the law in Britain it would be preety stupid for any government to waste time bringing in laws against this. Also lots of MPs visit escorts so its about as likely that they will vote for these laws as it is for Cameron to vote for PR.

Offline Jimmyredcab

Laws in the USA which make it illegal doesnt stop punting in brothels, agencies and on the street.

Prostitution is illegal in Las Vegas but hookers are very easy to find.   

jcdmj12

Very unlikely in this parliament.  Too many Tory MPs who would be against it, and even Labour isn't as bad as it was; John McDonnell MP has been doing a lot of work to try to educate his fellow lefties that actually listening to prostitutes might be a good idea if you're making laws affecting them.

Offline NIK

Yes, but how it would probably work is that the police would find popular wg who advertise and surveil their premises and nab the punter as he goes in or leaves. Arrest on suspicion and then get you to confess and pay a fine or risk prosecution. If you want to play smart with them they will have your personal details/mobile/cctv/electronic data from ISP/ATM cash withdrawal etc. I believe this is how it works in Sweden. Most punters will pay the fine rather than take it to court.

As for the stuff about a police not being able to prove that a man was buying sex, that's just la la land thinking. A jury don't need to see pictures of a punter shagging a wg to believe on the preponderance of evidence presented that he went there to have sex or engaged in sexual activity for payment.  Also, under the "Nordic Model" it's legal for a w/g to sell sex so the Police will ask her if she had sex with the man and she will of course say "yes" unless she herself wants to risk prosecution for no good reason.

Note, this is why the Nordic model is more "anti-punter" because in the US model both parties need to ensure they don't get caught to avoid prosecution and have mutual interest in complete discretion. The Nordic model criminalises one side so the police have a made snitch.

Whilst prosecutions are expensive you old need a few and some press releases to instill a bit of fear and that's all it's supposed to be a legal deterrent on the demand side.

Load of bollocks!  :angry:

This whole fucking subject ruins my libido .If they introduce it i'll be on anti depressants the rest of my god damned life .Bet I wouldn't be the only one either!
« Last Edit: June 03, 2015, 04:04:05 PM by Itsnotshy »

Offline NIK

This whole fucking subject ruins my libido .If they introduce it i'll be on anti depressants the rest of my god damned life .Bet I wouldn't be the only one either!

Yes I will go out of my way to actually start punting again!


Offline Aspen

Our neighbours seems to have taken up this law

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3109799/Men-pay-sex-fined-1-200-new-rules-brought-France.html

Creeping disease. I'm very surprised France is doing this.

Not a very well researched article is it. They omitted Northern Ireland in the sweeping statement that only Norway and Sweden have made it illegal,
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jcdmj12

Our neighbours seems to have taken up this law

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3109799/Men-pay-sex-fined-1-200-new-rules-brought-France.html

That reads like misreporting to me.

The French Senate (upper house) kicked the bill out in March:

http://www.english.rfi.fr/france/20150331-french-senate-overturns-controversial-law-against-prostitution

So either

1. The DM reporter is reporting an old story as new
2. The socialist lower house are having another go at getting it through.


The good news is that by the time the Tories have had their way, there won't be enough of a police service left to chase people for stuff like this anyway.   :thumbsup:
« Last Edit: June 04, 2015, 01:16:53 AM by jcdmj12 »

Offline NIK

That reads like misreporting to me.

The French Senate (upper house) kicked the bill out in March:

http://www.english.rfi.fr/france/20150331-french-senate-overturns-controversial-law-against-prostitution

So either

1. The DM reporter is reporting an old story as new
2. The socialist lower house are having another go at getting it through.


The good news is that by the time the Tories have had their way, there won't be enough of a police service left to chase people for stuff like this anyway.   :thumbsup:

Exactly. As if the police will have the resources to waste on setting up 'stings' to try to secure prosecutions against goings on between consenting adults. It is total nonsense, and the seemingly increasing number of people who fear it will stop prostitution are living in cloud cuckoo land.  :crazy: :wacko:

I don't care what laws have been passed in Ireland, Sweden or anywhere else for that matter, prossying is still going on the world over. Always has and always will. You cannot legislate against human nature.

jcdmj12

Had another look - the DM is the only paper running this, so looks like bollocks.

The only thing I found was a blatant anti-propaganda piece by a Catholic Funded organisation:

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/480433/prostitution-costs-france-over-17.html

Obviously they don't want people paying grown women for sex, they'd rather they fiddle with little boys instead.    :sarcastic:

Its religion and their lies creeping back into the bedroom again.

Offline smiths

That reads like misreporting to me.

The French Senate (upper house) kicked the bill out in March:

http://www.english.rfi.fr/france/20150331-french-senate-overturns-controversial-law-against-prostitution

So either

1. The DM reporter is reporting an old story as new
2. The socialist lower house are having another go at getting it through.


The good news is that by the time the Tories have had their way, there won't be enough of a police service left to chase people for stuff like this anyway.   :thumbsup:

There aren't enough police now to catch punters punting with so called Indies. Even if there were some top cops wouldn't waste their resources doing so just like they don't close brothels now in some areas despite them being illegal. As I posted earlier in the thread any new law would be to primarily to scare punters off punting in the first place rather than nicking them, although the police could easily nick punters punting in brothels of course.

Offline MDB72

Firstly I cannot see the legislation ever happening but even if it did there will be ways round it. Law are passed and then lawyers find the loopholes. It's the way of the world.


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