scam punters feedback north west

[cueball]

If you know a prossie is a scam then her positive punters would probably be false too, naming the scam punters would enable us to cross check against any potentials that we are considering seeing.

I'll be updating this thread as and when something comes up and I'd hope you lads would do the same.

None of us want to be fucked over

[con-a-ser]

I was going to say that is a good idea

but
You will have guys who have done outcalls to there home & scared of reprocusions to there property
Guys who are scared to leave negative feedback

But it will highlight friends of the WG but then again chance he has only left feedback on this one girl

But lets see how you get on

[BIG BLUE]

But thats the whole problem one Punters scam is another Punters idea of heaven.

And dont forget in the past year the number of profiles displaying telephone numbers has gone thru the roof and no one who books that way leaves any feedback positive or negative so my advice with the AW feedback system  would be to use it in the way that suits you the best and for what you think its worth but i really dont understand guys who spend hours looking at it cross referencing this and that.

For what its worth i think you.d save yourselves a lot of time and effort if you just picked yourself a couple of guys on here that you feel you have an affinity with and have tastes in common with and shared information together preferably by PM.  Much better than being put off by some guy whos posted a negative feedback because he didnt get his own way with a lady probably over some ridiculous demand or initial pre booking bad communication on his part.

[threechilliman]

But thats the whole problem one Punters scam is another Punters idea of heaven.

And dont forget in the past year the number of profiles displaying telephone numbers has gone thru the roof and no one who books that way leaves any feedback positive or negative so my advice with the AW feedback system  would be to use it in the way that suits you the best and for what you think its worth but i really dont understand guys who spend hours looking at it cross referencing this and that.

For what its worth i think you.d save yourselves a lot of time and effort if you just picked yourself a couple of guys on here that you feel you have an affinity with and have tastes in common with and shared information together preferably by PM.  Much better than being put off by some guy whos posted a negative feedback because he didnt get his own way with a lady probably over some ridiculous demand or initial pre booking bad communication on his part.

Now then young lady, would you like to reveal your real identity? UKP rules state WG's should use their AW profile name.

Thanks

tcm

[brettus]

are you talking about scam punters on the forum or on AW?

[BIG BLUE]

Now then young lady, would you like to reveal your real identity? UKP rules state WG's should use their AW profile name.

Thanks

tcm

Fraid youre barking up the wrong tree there Mr Chilliman.

Just my modus operandi is just a little different than most on here but been around the punting scene a lot longer than you i guess and certainly since i returned to the North West in 1991.

And in fact used to be regular visitor to the book shops in Bolton and Bury to pick up my copies of Manchester Scene and North West Direct etc but i guess given the Average age of the posters on here means that wont mean a thing to most of them.

Was a long time member on PP  till it fell by the wayside and when i lived in Preston even attended a couple of socials etc and recognise a few names on here from over there back in the old days. I currently have a couple of profiles on AW but have never left feedback on there in 12 years of using it, just not my style i.m afraid.

But happy to pass on what i know to people if they bother to PM and ask something i did just this evening for a guy who wanted some info on a girl i mentioned in a previous post.

Not really sure why you would think i was a WG  and to be honest i find it a little insulting or does everyone who signs up on here with a modicum of intellegence who doesnt use language that demeans the women and doesnt do the feedback thing get the same treatment.

[BIG BLUE]

are you talking about scam punters on the forum or on AW?

Not sure if that was meant for me ??

But if it was i.ve never mentioned "Scam Punters" i.m afraid and would have to guess at what is meant by one.

[brettus]

Not sure if that was meant for me ??

But if it was i.ve never mentioned "Scam Punters" i.m afraid and would have to guess at what is meant by one.

it was aimed at cueball. looks as if hes refering to scam punters on the forum rather than AW. i got a little in two minds since you mentioned AW. by scam punter he means people who are posting reviews and such that arnt genuine and are doing it to generate clients.

btw we dont all foul mouth the girls.

[cueball]

Aw brettus, sorry, I should have said in op

[lancspunter]

So let me get this straight ... a girl on AW who is seen to be a scam by one individual for whatever reason, if she has positive AW reviews then they are obviously part of the scam. Is that the logic? I'm afraid it just doesn't add up. Or have I missed something?

[yorkshire123]

Why the negative comments to a quite reasonable question 

Scam to me is very clear, prossie's that run off with your money, prossies that set you up with a meeting with BF/pimp that then threaten you, bait & switch & prossie's that have no interest in providing the services agreed & paid for.

These scammers have a tenancy of building up positive false feedback over multiple scam profiles to give the impression of decent service providers.
However they are sometimes quite limited in their metal ability to keep producing such falsehoods so revert to copy & paste across said profiles & with a little work punters can spot these links.

Now maybe I'm off the mark but i believe that is the kind of list Cueball was after & not the questioning of legitimate punters feedback who had happened to have a good time with a prossie that previously had a negative.

For example this cunt External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only with feedback of 74, granted some were for buying stuff but the majority were for escorting by punters ( ) with a couple of feedbacks themselves that were clearly fake. All this feedback built up by one of the most prolific NW scammers yet still giving an element of credibility to the lesser switched on punter.
I know her feedback is hidden so should be a no no for most punters but that has only been the case for the last few months & can be unhidden as & when she likes.

I now wish that i had copied all of her feedback so we could share it on this thread.

Cheers Cueball as I know your intention had the NW punting members safety & money at heart, for that sir   

[cueball]

Exactly as Yorkshire said, wish I'd worded it like that, cheers

[bigbilly22]

Understand the sentiment but pro$$ies as we all know can be infinitly unreliable.

I've left positive feedback for some who then go on to dick around with another punter hence get the scammer reputation, does my previous positive feedback make me a scammer??

Think its worth while identifying the fake punter feedback usually attributed to EE girls where they have feedback off the same punter 3 days running or he has given feedback to 2 or 3 girls in the same stable on the same day within minutes off each other.

For what its worth take AW feedback (and Reviews on here) with a big pinch of salt. 2 or 3 reviewers I trust usulaly cos weve chatted in person or PM and have shared girls info.

Also good to check of said punter has had feedback from a girl you trust?

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[con-a-ser]

Why the negative comments to a quite reasonable question 

My points where aimed at the pracnicality of it
Thinking a girl will only get friends to add positive feedback

Now we as a group could set up a group of guys to provide false feedback for these girls & charge them

this would make us money to spend on decent girls & also allow us to create a list that we know have actually used false feedback for the rest of the UKP punters to avoid

[con-a-ser]

I've left positive feedback for some who then go on to dick around with another punter hence get the scammer reputation, does my previous positive feedback make me a scammer??

Well if someone doesn't know you it would look like that

But I would say the chance is you have booked a girl who is new to AW

Basically Joined to make money for a reason Holiday, Kids xmas presents , Tit implants, New car
So we will say Holiday for example

So she as paid the for the hotel thanks to two clients the flight thanks to another , a couple give her her spending money & Billy 22 paid for the sun bed session, new bikini's & hair done
now all paid she will lose intrest in AW just counting down time to her hols & becomes unreliable

[bigbilly22]

So she as paid the for the hotel thanks to two clients the flight thanks to another , a couple give her her spending money & Billy 22 paid for the sun bed session, new bikini's & hair done
now all paid she will lose intrest in AW just counting down time to her hols & becomes unreliable

thing is Con that is my type of girl, not overly interested in seeing hardened pros that have been fucking for many a year, I go for the young student who's in, maka bit of money then back out of the business

Dont think this type of girl or her punters deserves the bad rep

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[con-a-ser]

    

Remember feedback is also based on a punters expectations & some of us are fairly experienced punters who have been around for a while
With this our expectations will have grown
I know I have bigger expectations now than when I first started out punting & I know this as been mentioned in another thread I posted on recently

In that thread the OP asked why there were girls on AW with positive feedback but gave a poor service & also stated in the same post he had seen this girl but wasn't going to leave feedback
as he was bothered about the girl leaving him negative feedback aswell 

I like it when guys of here & other forums have the same user name on AW so you get an idea the guy is a genuine punter & can often cross refrence his forum feedback compared to the AW feedback he left

[bigbilly22]

I like it when guys of here & other forums have the same user name on AW so you get an idea the guy is a genuine punter & can often cross refrence his forum feedback compared to the AW feedback he left

Agree

Don't really get why a genuine punter would have muliple profiles and differing names on different sites

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[con-a-ser]

thing is Con that is my type of girl, not overly interested in seeing hardened pros that have been fucking for many a year, I go for the young student who's in, maka bit of money then back out of the business

Dont think this type of girl or her punters deserves the bad rep

22

I know you go for the fresh meat as to speak & get the girl when she is eager to please
the thing is a lot of these girl attitudes also change when they get a few tossers & time wasters who also ruin the industry for the rest of us
Some of these girls become hardened fast
Some times it has been heard of double booking assuming one or both are time wasters then fucked when both turn up

[306]

Any hidden feed back means fuck all could all be the same punter! Check/seach field reports to try and find 1 for that girl as they cant not be hidden if there is one ?

[bigbilly22]

Some times it has been heard of double booking assuming one or both are time wasters then fucked when both turn up

Fucked or Double Teamed

They dont realise a lot of us would be up for that!

[con-a-ser]

Any hidden feed back means fuck all could all be the same punter! Check/seach field reports to try and find 1 for that girl as they cant not be hidden if there is one ?

Like those who bid on there own cars on ebays
The you see relisted within 4 hours "Relisted due to timewaster" after that I place one bid alone

[smiths]

If you know a prossie is a scam then her positive punters would probably be false too, naming the scam punters would enable us to cross check against any potentials that we are considering seeing.

I'll be updating this thread as and when something comes up and I'd hope you lads would do the same.

None of us want to be fucked over

If you mean name the scam punters who have posted positively about a WG who has had a number of negative reviews/feedback on HERE by punters seen as credible, bearing in mind credible is subjective of course then it sounds like a good idea to me, though scam needs to be exactly defined so ALL are clear and agree its a scam.

I take very little notice of a WGs feedback on A/W as the whole site is rotten to the core, run by low lifes with no interest in helping punters. Personally I don't believe a word of FB on their unless I know, trust and/or respect the punter who has left it. This site is the only site to find credible FB in my view.

[smiths]

   

Remember feedback is also based on a punters expectations & some of us are fairly experienced punters who have been around for a while
With this our expectations will have grown
I know I have bigger expectations now than when I first started out punting & I know this as been mentioned in another thread I posted on recently

In that thread the OP asked why there were girls on AW with positive feedback but gave a poor service & also stated in the same post he had seen this girl but wasn't going to leave feedback
as he was bothered about the girl leaving him negative feedback aswell 

I like it when guys of here & other forums have the same user name on AW so you get an idea the guy is a genuine punter & can often cross refrence his forum feedback compared to the AW feedback he left

On your last paragraph I think it not smart to use the same nick on here as on A/W, I agree it makes it easier to see if a punter is genuine but it also makes it easier for the WG to identify him which some punters as shown by posts on here don't want. Personally I don't have a nick on A/W as the whole site is run by low lifes, I use it ONLY to access WGs with displayed numbers so don't need a nick on their.

[con-a-ser]

On your last paragraph I think it not smart to use the same nick on here as on A/W, I agree it makes it easier to see if a punter is genuine but it also makes it easier for the WG to identify him which some punters as shown by posts on here don't want. Personally I don't have a nick on A/W as the whole site is run by low lifes, I use it ONLY to access WGs with displayed numbers so don't need a nick on their.

I don't use the same name as I know fine well with my user name the chance of getting an reply would be minimal
yes less than the 10% in possible get now

[BIG BLUE]

I.m convinced that some of you must be using a different AW site from me.

When i take the time to compose and send a message i get a reply virtually 100% of the time even tho my profile sometimes shows with that stupid alias figure of something like 1500.

Either i.m doing something very right or some of you lot are doing something very wrong i just cant work out which.

Maybe i could start a service where i get the booking for you guys and then charge you a fiver for my trouble   lol  .

[smiths]

I.m convinced that some of you must be using a different AW site from me.

When i take the time to compose and send a message i get a reply virtually 100% of the time even tho my profile sometimes shows with that stupid alias figure of something like 1500.

Either i.m doing something very right or some of you lot are doing something very wrong i just cant work out which.

Maybe i could start a service where i get the booking for you guys and then charge you a fiver for my trouble   lol  .

Virtually 100% of the time, that is most certainly not the feedback that countless punters on here have posted over the years I have been a member.

[bigbilly22]

Virtually 100% of the time, that is most certainly not the feedback that countless punters on here have posted over the years I have been a member.

30% never even read
20% read and no reply
50% replied to

about that ratio for me

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[smiths]

30% never even read
20% read and no reply
50% replied to

about that ratio for me

22

You said you get a reply virtually 100% of the time yet now its 50%.

[bigbilly22]

You said you get a reply virtually 100% of the time yet now its 50%.

get your quotes right that wasn't me!

[smiths]

get your quotes right that wasn't me!

Apologies, your figures sound more like what I have read on here.

[bigbilly22]

Apologies, your figures sound more like what I have read on here.

no worries

[cueball]

Right then, it seems this thread is getting a bit confused as I started it with the best intentions but I do admit I worded it shit.

The intention was to get an heads up on real scam or robbery set up prossies, not shit punts or unreliable lasses.

Like it or not a lot of us use aw feedback to cross reference whether a lass is pukka or not. What's written has no meaning (fluff).

I hold much more stead in ukp reviews and opinions than anything else.

I'll give you a fictitious scenario then you get an idea what I'm thinking

I review dirty Doris...

Paid her, she fucked off, in comes pimp, wallops me round the head and turfs me out.

Robbery scam yes?

On dirty Doris' feedback is fuckedupfred saying "she's the best, a diamond, best I've seen etc etc"

That then puts fuckedupfred as false feedback (in my eyes)

So, in future, any girls with fuckedupfred in her feedback has got to set alarm bells off.

I was trying to get something going so we can help ourselves and each other.

To repeat I'm talking AW feedback NOT ukp.

[brettus]

in terms of replies i usualy get one but i have had the message read and not replied to a few time or i get a half arsed reply that puts me off a little.

only problem i have with AW is that my own profile is down. every time i try to view it comes up with a red error message and i dont know how to correct it. however i can use the site with no problems at all.

[bigbilly22]

Right then, it seems this thread is getting a bit confused as I started it with the best intentions but I do admit I worded it shit.

The intention was to get an heads up on real scam or robbery set up prossies, not shit punts or unreliable lasses.

Like it or not a lot of us use aw feedback to cross reference whether a lass is pukka or not. What's written has no meaning (fluff).

I hold much more stead in ukp reviews and opinions than anything else.

I'll give you a fictitious scenario then you get an idea what I'm thinking

I review dirty Doris...

Paid her, she fucked off, in comes pimp, wallops me round the head and turfs me out.

Robbery scam yes?

On dirty Doris' feedback is fuckedupfred saying "she's the best, a diamond, best I've seen etc etc"

That then puts fuckedupfred as false feedback (in my eyes)

So, in future, any girls with fuckedupfred in her feedback has got to set alarm bells off.

I was trying to get something going so we can help ourselves and each other.

To repeat I'm talking AW feedback NOT ukp.

agree with the premise but what if fuckedupfred isnt a cammer but a genuine punter who saw Doris before she became desperate and teamed up with Petethepimp?

Suppose fuckedupfred has great feedback from a girl youve aleady seen, does that set of alarms about her (and you?)

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[cueball]

agree with the premise but what if fuckedupfred isnt a cammer but a genuine punter who saw Doris before she became desperate and teamed up with Petethepimp?

Suppose fuckedupfred has great feedback from a girl youve aleady seen, does that set of alarms about her (and you?)

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I can see your thinking Billy but the scam punter feedback tends not to have girls we've met.


I still think we can help each other, if you know for sure post the name. It might not stop any of us arranging a punt but I would have thought we would tread more carefully (more than the usual)

I'll put it another way, if fuckedupfred only had feedback from dirty Doris then turned up on new girl bettybigbum's feedback, you would question her then wouldn't you?

You see my thinking?

[JamesCollins]

don't know if this is helpful but all those polish girls have fake feedback from the same people

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it seems too obvious to even point out, they all have similar names with similar feedback it's complete bollocks.

[lancspunter]

don't know if this is helpful but all those polish girls have fake feedback from the same people

External Link/Members Only

it seems too obvious to even point out, they all have similar names with similar feedback it's complete bollocks.

Interesting that she has four positive feedbacks and yet her reviewers cannot be viewed.

[cueball]

Good spot james, now copy and paste em on this thread and we can all watch for em, I'm on my phone and can't do it for you

[Denhamhoop]

Well for me i would say its about 80 % Read and Replied to about 13% Read but no Reply and 7 % Never Read but then i am very polite and generally quite cheery in my emails.If someone wants to take the time to sift through girls feedback looking for false reports then I am more than happy.Might be an idea to ask for opinions if people arent sure as for our AW feedback and here i use the same name on AW as here but then im footloose and fancy free.My reports on here tend to be more graphic but the main meat of my reports are the same but then i am on the fluffy end of the scale anyhow

[Munching32]

Interesting topic.

I will soon post my research on one case in particular.

[306]

Scams run many ways like if you watch a robber rob a bank then you rob him .
Will he report you to the police ?

[BIG BLUE]

Been doing a bit off digging

So i.ll open you with this one who appeared in East Lancashire this week

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

20 Feed back and not a single one that isnt hidden or is clearly false.

And now it shows up that she used to be Angellyna and was based in Sudbury in East Anglia

[cueball]

Escort

Type   Member   Date   Role

Feedback
Only   Alex_Mike (0)   10/05/2015 21:42   Seeking Services
    Amazing... Sandra is amazing... If you are into petit girls then she is the one for you

Positive   Josh-Strong (10)   07/04/2015 00:06   Seeking Services
    Lovely girl, very young and fresh with a great body x

Positive   Chris-Crazy (14)   06/04/2015 13:51   Seeking Services
    Young, sexy with soft skin and softer kisses, an hour to treasure

Positive   James-man4u (13)   06/04/2015 13:35   Seeking Services
    Honey is just amazing. Treat her well, she is a lovely, gorgeous and sexy lady.

Positive   PatrickBigTeddy (6)   24/03/2015 18:04   Seeking Services
    Had an amazing time x lovely woman and truly better than GFE. Will definitely return!! Xxxx

Positive   Josh-Strong (10)   24/03/2015 17:39   Seeking Services
    Had an amazing time with a sexy beautiful woman. Looks even better in real life. So easy going and simply oozing sex! Is very special, recommended xx


All these on a scam profile, all have hidden their own feedback, keep a look out for them in any feedback on a new face you're about to see

Copied from link below...
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[JamesCollins]

HotHooker   Overall Rating: 3, from 3 rating(s) and 0 dispute(s)
Below is the feedback and ratings that other members have left for HotHooker.

Positive   Donpunter (1)   16/05/2015 10:41   Seeking Services
    She looks better in person and can be a dirty hooker if you ask lol I liked a lot thanks

Positive   Paul53years (6)   11/05/2015 08:10   Seeking Services
    Its the girl in the photos and she is right hot with a pretty face and stunning body recommended

Positive   Kelvin121 (7)   10/05/2015 11:12   Seeking Services
    Beautiful eyes and stunning looks much better than photos. Great sex all good and hot body

fake:  External Link/Members Only

[cueball]

fake:  External Link/Members Only

She is a fake eh bud, good spot

[Denhamhoop]

If she is real i'd be amazed £80 for a 23 year old English girl who looks like that.Plus i dont think i've ever seen a punter use the term hooker

[BIG BLUE]

Pic selling exercise if you ask me

[JamesCollins]

This guys feedback smells of bull,

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All 10/10 reports written for girls from the same group.

a lot of this going on.

[Yoda69]

Been doing a bit off digging

So i.ll open you with this one who appeared in East Lancashire this week

External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only

20 Feed back and not a single one that isnt hidden or is clearly false.

And now it shows up that she used to be Angellyna and was based in Sudbury in East Anglia

Yup, I've seen the first pic before, on more than one profile in the past