Relationships with escorts do they work?

[Zola1956]

Certainly not.

[serialpunter65]

More power to your elbow. Try to be strong and stay away from her.

I've thought about this each time I see this thread, and the dealbreaker for me is that the vast majority of WG's have a very bad attitude towards men, if not all of them. They see them as something to be exploited and they do it to the full as a routine part of their working day. If you don't believe me just have a scan through their forum. If you want a partner like that then you must seriously want your head examined. Don't think because they have a lot of sex that it will always be good, because they are just as likely to deny you as any other woman, and they are experts in using sex to bargain with. Plus of course you will never be the best guy they have experienced in bed, there will have been loads that are tons better than you. That's inevitable, and doubtless you'd get your nose rubbed in it when it suits. I can only foresee a life of misery with a WG as a partner, if it lasts any significant time at all.

A few days ago I gave the wg in question the boot. Just couldn't handle the situation anymore.. She gave the impression of being more concerned about the drying up of a great income stream than not seeing me again and perversely that's made the situation much easier for me. You simply can't have a successful relationship with a wg. End of. Can't believe I've been such a twat.

[pianodave]

I have a bit of a big brain/little brain quandry now. My regular who now meets for free is a great shag and I like her company, however she has also told me a story which suggests she might actually also be a bit of a crazy psycho who may stab me in the face if I piss her off. Little brain says never turn down free sex with hot younger woman, big brain says run like fuck ...

[ampersand]

Then don't piss her off!

[squeezebox]

I have a bit of a big brain/little brain quandry now. My regular who now meets for free is a great shag and I like her company, however she has also told me a story which suggests she might actually also be a bit of a crazy psycho who may stab me in the face if I piss her off. Little brain says never turn down free sex with hot younger woman, big brain says run like fuck ...

I think all of us, in some capacity, are a little crazy when our buttons are pushed. There would be no reason she would be any different. If she gets pissed off because you may want to see other WG's... that may be a problem. If she gets pissed off because she wants to carrying on as a WG and you want her to stop..that may be a problem.

If it's friends with benefits, then enjoy, and, as the previous poster says, don't piss her off!

[ampersand]

As long as you maintain security with her, even if you do piss her off it shouldn't be too much of a problem. Presumably if you are already in a relationship, you won't have revealed too much to her and if you are not, don't.

[johnnyboy61]

I have a bit of a big brain/little brain quandry now. My regular who now meets for free is a great shag and I like her company, however she has also told me a story which suggests she might actually also be a bit of a crazy psycho who may stab me in the face if I piss her off. Little brain says never turn down free sex with hot younger woman, big brain says run like fuck ...

If she's seeing you for free the boundary between WG and GF has been well and truly crossed. If you don't consider her GF material get the fuck out of it.

I get on very well with many of the WG I've seen, but I don't want one as a GF (nor would they want me as their BF) and if they offered it to me for free I might take them up on it the once and then it would be "beam me up Scotty!".

But then I am married and looking for an hour of great sex and intimacy and nothing more (and perhaps some nice chat before or after). Having paid my money at the start of the meet both parties know where we stand and at the end of the day, however great the sex is, it is a commercial transaction (sorry, I know that sounds cold), but if she's offering it to you for free then you're going to have to take on what would seem to be some considerable baggage. As they say, there's no such thing as a free lunch (or in your case, sex).

[pianodave]

Yeah I think it's probably ok as long as I keep her at arms length. It was more the look of glee in her eyes as she told me this story that was a little disturbing. I think she may enjoy meeting me for free because she can open up about things she can't tell other people, but I'll be keeping her away from any sharp knives. To be honest though, my gut is saying this might not end well, I might see her one more time then move on. It has reinforced my view thought that even the sweetest, most ordinary girl next door, genuinely horny part time escort, is deep down a little bit fucked in the head. I've also realised it's easy to maintain security on a 30 minute booking, much harder to keep up the lies when you are having drinks or dinner for an hour or more.

Ah well, it's interesting anyway.

[cueball]

I guess you could say a relationship with an escort can work, I've punted with married women whose partners know what they do. So, I suppose it works for them.

I would hold no stead in any prossie telling me that she's podging punters behind her husband / boyfriends back, that's more a fantasy line.

Could I have a relationship with a prossie, yes, only as friends with benefits maybe. The test is not what you do with her as a punter but what she does with you off the clock.

[tazz]

Have been reading a book about a women who worked for Fred and Rosemary West the notorious serial killers as a nanny for a few months. Reminded me that Rose West was a prossie and her husband loved watching her get fucked and even barebacked by other men. So for people who are bonkers and just think about sex most of the time it can work.

[Quesadilla]

Have been reading a book about a women who worked for Fred and Rosemary West the notorious serial killers as a nanny for a few months. Reminded me that Rose West was a prossie and her husband loved watching her get fucked and even barebacked by other men. So for people who are bonkers and just think about sex most of the time it can work.

Really?  That to you is an example of a relationship that worked?? 

[Turtle Z]

I guess you could say a relationship with an escort can work, I've punted with married women whose partners know what they do. So, I suppose it works for them.

I would hold no stead in any prossie telling me that she's podging punters behind her husband / boyfriends back, that's more a fantasy line.

Could I have a relationship with a prossie, yes, only as friends with benefits maybe. The test is not what you do with her as a punter but what she does with you off the clock.

I suspect that most married prossies were married before they were prossies and found that they had accommodating husbands and in those circumstances then I think the relationship has more chance of working. However I think this thread is really about punters going onto relationships with a known prossie. When I was a naive punter many years ago I had a number of short term relationships with prossies and without exception they turned out to be nuts. I steer a wide berth now and though I am happy to pay for sex I think very few are within the 'normal' spectrum of mental health and issues might range from mild personally disorder through to complete fucking lunatic. of course I'm generalising but 'nice girls' don't generally fuck guys for cash. Not that I'm being judgmental, just realistic...  when you start having a relationship with a prossie you will find that they can't keep the problems hidden as well as they can in a 60 minute appointment, fuck me, some of them can't even manage that.

[Turtle Z]

Could I have a relationship with a prossie, yes, only as friends with benefits maybe.

And don't fall into that trap. A prossie (or for that matter any woman) who tells you that she'd like you as a friend with benefits is a fucking liar. It's simply stage 1 in sinking the claws in.

[cueball]

And don't fall into that trap. A prossie (or for that matter any woman) who tells you that she'd like you as a friend with benefits is a fucking liar. It's simply stage 1 in sinking the claws in.

Ha ha, I'm not planning to, mrs cueball is pretty understanding but she's got her limits ha ha

[pianodave]

Really?  That to you is an example of a relationship that worked?? 

can't believe we are citing the Wests as a model couple

Anyway, I've given my situation a lot of thought. Unfortunately I can't be specific without outing myself, but I've decided to get out despite the good company and great free sex. She has told me enough to know she can be very violent without reason, and that people in her life go to some length to keep away from her. It's OK saying just do t piss her off and maintain security but she admitted she gets violent for no real reason sometimes - and I'm talking major life threatening violence - and I dont want to risk that, or ending up being accused of something. It's a  shame but as said above, girls who sell sex tend to have a bit of their brain wired wrongly IMO and even though she is nice so far, she over shares a lot and I just have a very bad feeling about her. I think she may be a well disguised psychopath.

[Turtle Z]

can't believe we are citing the Wests as a model couple

Anyway, I've given my situation a lot of thought. Unfortunately I can't be specific without outing myself, but I've decided to get out despite the good company and great free sex. She has told me enough to know she can be very violent without reason, and that people in her life go to some length to keep away from her. It's OK saying just do t piss her off and maintain security but she admitted she gets violent for no real reason sometimes - and I'm talking major life threatening violence - and I dont want to risk that, or ending up being accused of something. It's a  shame but as said above, girls who sell sex tend to have a bit of their brain wired wrongly IMO and even though she is nice so far, she over shares a lot and I just have a very bad feeling about her. I think she may be a well disguised psychopath.

You obviously feel it in the pit of your stomach and if you don't take action now you'll fucking kick yourself that you ignored the warning signs, which are always there.
'Free sex' sounds great doesn't it but theres always a price to pay with these women and sometimes it's a lot more than money.

[Jeff_withpetersen]

A WG once gave the some signs that she might've wanted more ... unsolicited messaging just to see how I was etc. To test the water, I suggested a night in at her place, DVD and a meal (at my expense).

 She of course responded that *drum roll please* ... she's on a diet and doesn't own a DVD player 

 Frankly I long sinced reached the point where all my punts are 30 minutes only, no emotion, no 'complications' on either side, no nothing except the humping. I think it's better that way and I'd advise any novice punter who happens upon this thread to do the same as the number of people who fell in love with a WG and had it reciprocated and lived happily ever after is probably outnumbered 1000 to 1 by people who ended up fucked over one way or another by getting emotionally involved.

[Turtle Z]

A WG once gave the some signs that she might've wanted more ... unsolicited messaging just to see how I was etc. To test the water, I suggested a night in at her place, DVD and a meal (at my expense).

 She of course responded that *drum roll please* ... she's on a diet and doesn't own a DVD player 

I recently had a text message from a WG I'd seen a few times, she'd previously mentioned on more than one occasion that we should go out for a drink. I just ignore that sort of stuff unless pushed. She knows which town I live in and a few weeks ago I got a text message on Saturday evening saying that she was in my  town for the day shopping and she was now free for the evening. I just politely replied that I was busy and a few text messages later signed off. Her profile disappeared from AW and several weeks later texted her to ask if she was available and got a fucking bizarre response to the effect that yes she was but I'd be paying for her time and it was all just business blah blah blah, it was a proper fucking rant. Needless to say I didn't follow through with a booking and have deleted and blocked her number from my phone.

[pianodave]

Well, turns out the prevalent view that they are all potty and incapable of normal friendships/relationships seems to be right.

Thursday night my regular was very keen to see me again, texting how horny she was and how she didn't want money just to meet up.

So against my better judgement I thought, what the hell, and we went for a few soft drinks. She spent the whole time talking about herself, about her latest violent incidents, her life in general, and most of all the many blokes she had fucked lately, her bf, various random men, someone she met in the street and of course her bookings. She kept stroking my leg and flirting a lot.

After that we went back to hers for a coffee, and she sat next to me and gave me an obvious come on. I kissed her and she kissed back, and took her knickers off and we were fooling around, her getting very wet and met very hard, as one might expect. At that point she told me she didn't want sex as she wasn't in the mood!

Ok I thought, back off a bit. Chatted a bit more and ended up kissing again, but she was clearly now in a strop and I didn't fancy being subject to a false rape charge now even if she changed her mind, so I gave up and asked what was up and she said she just wasn't in the mood today and had to go home as she had to be somewhere soon. Fine, said goodbye and she left.

An hour or some later she left three messages on my voicemail clearly furious, about how I was no different to any other man, all I wanted was sex and I wasn't interested in her as a person.

Well firstly, I spent 2 hours chatting to her and listening to all her life stories and problems. Secondly she knows I like fucking her since I pay for it. Thirdly she was well aware what would happen and should have made it clear if she wasn't up for it. And lastly, she could have kept her knickers on if she really wasn't in the mood.

I have no idea what is going on in her head, and I can't be bothered to try to work it out, but clearly she gets off on using sex as a control mechanism of some kind, or just likes drama and attention. Either way, I can't be bothered with this kind of crap, number deleted, I lose my regular and she loses my ongoing cash. A total lose-lose result for all involved.

An interesting experience, but a lesson reinforced: they are all completely bonkers. Pay them, fuck them, and get the fuck away.

[Turtle Z]

A total lose-lose result for all involved.

Nah, this is definitely a win-lose. She is obviously a mental case!

[fitasfuck]

She was clearly brain fucking you.

Men & women clearly think differently because our brains are not wired alike! She was looking for an ear and shoulder for some sort of an emotional release which you patiently provided.

She even seemed to have a power trip - women love to be in control & like to know they have the power to deny a man something he desperately wants from her.

She clearly knew when she called you that she wasn't going to offer sex to you that day - hence was clear to you at the outset she didn't want money! In short, you played her 'agony aunt' and whatever fondling you did was your payment for it!

You were in the friend zone rather than the lover zone.

What you have subsequently done is definitely the correct thing. This situation in the future could have got complicated, especially if she is bipolar or has a schizoid personality. Stay well away mate.

Well, turns out the prevalent view that they are all potty and incapable of normal friendships/relationships seems to be right.

Thursday night my regular was very keen to see me again, texting how horny she was and how she didn't want money just to meet up.

So against my better judgement I thought, what the hell, and we went for a few soft drinks. She spent the whole time talking about herself, about her latest violent incidents, her life in general, and most of all the many blokes she had fucked lately, her bf, various random men, someone she met in the street and of course her bookings. She kept stroking my leg and flirting a lot.

After that we went back to hers for a coffee, and she sat next to me and gave me an obvious come on. I kissed her and she kissed back, and took her knickers off and we were fooling around, her getting very wet and met very hard, as one might expect. At that point she told me she didn't want sex as she wasn't in the mood!

Ok I thought, back off a bit. Chatted a bit more and ended up kissing again, but she was clearly now in a strop and I didn't fancy being subject to a false rape charge now even if she changed her mind, so I gave up and asked what was up and she said she just wasn't in the mood today and had to go home as she had to be somewhere soon. Fine, said goodbye and she left.

An hour or some later she left three messages on my voicemail clearly furious, about how I was no different to any other man, all I wanted was sex and I wasn't interested in her as a person.

Well firstly, I spent 2 hours chatting to her and listening to all her life stories and problems. Secondly she knows I like fucking her since I pay for it. Thirdly she was well aware what would happen and should have made it clear if she wasn't up for it. And lastly, she could have kept her knickers on if she really wasn't in the mood.

I have no idea what is going on in her head, and I can't be bothered to try to work it out, but clearly she gets off on using sex as a control mechanism of some kind, or just likes drama and attention. Either way, I can't be bothered with this kind of crap, number deleted, I lose my regular and she loses my ongoing cash. A total lose-lose result for all involved.

An interesting experience, but a lesson reinforced: they are all completely bonkers. Pay them, fuck them, and get the fuck away.

[squeezebox]

Well, turns out the prevalent view that they are all potty and incapable of normal friendships/relationships seems to be right.

Thursday night my regular was very keen to see me again, texting how horny she was and how she didn't want money just to meet up.

So against my better judgement I thought, what the hell, and we went for a few soft drinks. She spent the whole time talking about herself, about her latest violent incidents, her life in general, and most of all the many blokes she had fucked lately, her bf, various random men, someone she met in the street and of course her bookings. She kept stroking my leg and flirting a lot.

After that we went back to hers for a coffee, and she sat next to me and gave me an obvious come on. I kissed her and she kissed back, and took her knickers off and we were fooling around, her getting very wet and met very hard, as one might expect. At that point she told me she didn't want sex as she wasn't in the mood!

Ok I thought, back off a bit. Chatted a bit more and ended up kissing again, but she was clearly now in a strop and I didn't fancy being subject to a false rape charge now even if she changed her mind, so I gave up and asked what was up and she said she just wasn't in the mood today and had to go home as she had to be somewhere soon. Fine, said goodbye and she left.

An hour or some later she left three messages on my voicemail clearly furious, about how I was no different to any other man, all I wanted was sex and I wasn't interested in her as a person.

Well firstly, I spent 2 hours chatting to her and listening to all her life stories and problems. Secondly she knows I like fucking her since I pay for it. Thirdly she was well aware what would happen and should have made it clear if she wasn't up for it. And lastly, she could have kept her knickers on if she really wasn't in the mood.

I have no idea what is going on in her head, and I can't be bothered to try to work it out, but clearly she gets off on using sex as a control mechanism of some kind, or just likes drama and attention. Either way, I can't be bothered with this kind of crap, number deleted, I lose my regular and she loses my ongoing cash. A total lose-lose result for all involved.

An interesting experience, but a lesson reinforced: they are all completely bonkers. Pay them, fuck them, and get the fuck away.

With this hobby, that's one of the most frustrating things. A good regular is hard to find, especially when you click and enjoy the service provided. What you describe above is a good example of how things can go tits up when either party develops EAS.

I'd probably take a punting break, do research and start again with a clean slate.

[jcdmj12]

Well, turns out the prevalent view that they are all potty and incapable of normal friendships/relationships seems to be right.

Thursday night my regular was very keen to see me again, texting how horny she was and how she didn't want money just to meet up.

So against my better judgement I thought, what the hell, and we went for a few soft drinks. She spent the whole time talking about herself, about her latest violent incidents, her life in general, and most of all the many blokes she had fucked lately, her bf, various random men, someone she met in the street and of course her bookings. She kept stroking my leg and flirting a lot.

After that we went back to hers for a coffee, and she sat next to me and gave me an obvious come on. I kissed her and she kissed back, and took her knickers off and we were fooling around, her getting very wet and met very hard, as one might expect. At that point she told me she didn't want sex as she wasn't in the mood!

Ok I thought, back off a bit. Chatted a bit more and ended up kissing again, but she was clearly now in a strop and I didn't fancy being subject to a false rape charge now even if she changed her mind, so I gave up and asked what was up and she said she just wasn't in the mood today and had to go home as she had to be somewhere soon. Fine, said goodbye and she left.

An hour or some later she left three messages on my voicemail clearly furious, about how I was no different to any other man, all I wanted was sex and I wasn't interested in her as a person.

Well firstly, I spent 2 hours chatting to her and listening to all her life stories and problems. Secondly she knows I like fucking her since I pay for it. Thirdly she was well aware what would happen and should have made it clear if she wasn't up for it. And lastly, she could have kept her knickers on if she really wasn't in the mood.

I have no idea what is going on in her head, and I can't be bothered to try to work it out, but clearly she gets off on using sex as a control mechanism of some kind, or just likes drama and attention. Either way, I can't be bothered with this kind of crap, number deleted, I lose my regular and she loses my ongoing cash. A total lose-lose result for all involved.

An interesting experience, but a lesson reinforced: they are all completely bonkers. Pay them, fuck them, and get the fuck away.

I'd lay money on either:

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[pianodave]

Yes, NPD crossed my mind from talking to her. The two are very similar and overlap somewhat. I suspect PDs are very prevalent among prostitutes, enabling them to compartmentalise sex in a way the vast majority of women cannot. Unfortunately a personality disorder also makes someone a very unsuitable friend and disastrous partner, which is why WGs can often be unpredictable and volatile, I think. I read AnthG posted on another thread how he noticed girls getting very upset over little things, and this in my view is a likely reason for this, the thing that makes them able to escort also makes them very volatile. People with PDs should be avoided at all cost. I'm quite relieved to be able to move on from this experience, back to normality.