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Offline simone_raven

Gina looks different in thatvmug shot. Good shag her. Hour glass figure. Huge ass

themademan2

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Gina looks different in thatvmug shot. Good shag her. Hour glass figure. Huge ass
Eh? :unknown:

Offline simone_raven

The link to escort north east getting raided

Mackydees

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A few amour lasses were outed... Looks like there own agency did it and tried to pin it on another rival agency... Caught with there pants down  :yahoo: :dance:
Wow that would be nearly as stupid as making up your own bad feedback in order to give a freebie as good publicity.

Anth hit the nail on the head, it's not sensible, bright or at all useful to do that. I assume MadeMan that you're not in charge of advertising in your business otherwise it would clearly be UsedToBeMadeMan  ;)

imagine you had say, a taxi firm and decided to put it about that some of the drivers were pissed on the job on the hope people would believe that a rival firm was besmirching your name. It'd be business suicide.

The facts need to be looked at here, that IP address is a Virgin media one, I'm guessing if Admin pulls up the usage of that account he'd find it was used pro Amour at least 6 months ago and then against Amour since then. Coincidentally, Amour had a member of staff who happens to be on Virgin who left acrimoniously and set up a rival agency. That's just a coincidence of course and I'm obviously a fluffy for pointing it out  :scare:

Stacey meanwhile is on Sky, this can easily be confirmed by any of us who have received emails from either of these agencies. Have a scoot at the header files to see the IP Addresses they've been sent from. Then use an IP checker to see who it refers to.

If you find one from Amour in the last couple of months that match up with that IP then I'll happily eat my own cock.

No doubt MadeMan has a hundred he can check for Allure, I've already checked mine (both from the Allure email accounts and the owners spouses/personal one) and know the answer to the question so let's see eh?

OldAdmin

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Coincidentally, Amour had a member of staff who happens to be on Virgin who left acrimoniously and set up a rival agency.

Saw that one coming from a mile away.

Your mission is over.

greychap

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Saw that one coming from a mile away.

Your mission is over.

My god more Amour/Stacey trouble.

A lot know what Stacey can be capable of but when will the rest see it.

So am I right in thinking it looks like a plot to try and get the new agency looking like they are the ones behind threats and trouble and fake accounts.

So Amour slagging off there own girls, outing there own girls in a bid for someone to then come up with the fact that a rival receptionist is behind it all so people stop using the new agency and girls wont want to join is, have I got it wrong or is this is what a few of us are thinking?

greychap

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Wow that would be nearly as stupid as making up your own bad feedback in order to give a freebie as good publicity.

Anth hit the nail on the head, it's not sensible, bright or at all useful to do that. I assume MadeMan that you're not in charge of advertising in your business otherwise it would clearly be UsedToBeMadeMan  ;)

imagine you had say, a taxi firm and decided to put it about that some of the drivers were pissed on the job on the hope people would believe that a rival firm was besmirching your name. It'd be business suicide.

The facts need to be looked at here, that IP address is a Virgin media one, I'm guessing if Admin pulls up the usage of that account he'd find it was used pro Amour at least 6 months ago and then against Amour since then. Coincidentally, Amour had a member of staff who happens to be on Virgin who left acrimoniously and set up a rival agency. That's just a coincidence of course and I'm obviously a fluffy for pointing it out  :scare:

Stacey meanwhile is on Sky, this can easily be confirmed by any of us who have received emails from either of these agencies. Have a scoot at the header files to see the IP Addresses they've been sent from. Then use an IP checker to see who it refers to.

If you find one from Amour in the last couple of months that match up with that IP then I'll happily eat my own cock.

No doubt MadeMan has a hundred he can check for Allure, I've already checked mine (both from the Allure email accounts and the owners spouses/personal one) and know the answer to the question so let's see eh?

So after Chesterlecopper got banned and that person had the same IP as Stacey at amour which admin would have figured out all 3 matched they would know this so then the long term goal was to blame a receptionist who used to work at Amour so it gets Stacey off the hook over the IP addresses and double bluffs by some people thinking Stacey wont slag off her own agency, and she nearly got away with it.

I wonder how long she had been planning this twist.

But then she did set up a complaint on here so she looked good by offering a freebie so less negatives if people go direct to her instead outing it on here.!!!!!!!!

And you was here to do Amours work and blame a past receptionist, its all adding up now :scare:

OldAdmin

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"He" previously made a (deleted) post trying to shitstir against me, which obviously was fed to "him" by the fat pig cunt aka Amy of Newcastle aka spokesperson of the Amour pimp.
Most ridiculous of all claiming I had deleted all reviews for a prossie who was banned, i.e. aforementioned fat pig cunt, when at the time "he" and others already had reviews about her in the review section  :wacko:

greychap

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"He" previously made a (deleted) post trying to shitstir against me, which obviously was fed to "him" by the fat pig cunt aka Amy of Newcastle aka spokesperson of the Amour pimp.
Most ridiculous of all claiming I had deleted all reviews for a prossie who was banned, i.e. fat pig cunt, when at the time "he" and others already had reviews about her in the review section  :wacko:

Aaah I see just looked at his 2 reviews it really all adds up now, Amy of Newcastle = Stacey's friend/ and he was here for the double bluff to blame a rival agency behind everything.

greychap

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Is there any lengths Stacey/Amour wont go to, threats, lies, attacks, outing own girls and trying to frame the competition because there obviously doing well and she wants them gone, not to mention pretending she in with police and then trying to get rid of them by trying to get police to close them down (so I been told)

Offline portable

Jesus wept.

If Amour hired Gianna Michaels I don't think I'd bother using them after this petty bullshit. The only thing that's ever put me off a particular agency was the state of the flats and general 'don't give a shit' attitude. (Diamonds, I'm looking at you) But even if Amour were excellent, communicative, helpful agency with very nice clean flats, well stocked bathrooms etc I'm sorely tempted to never bother even checking their website out of curiosity to who's working for them. I really don't want to line the pockets of those who are bitter, constantly lie and shift the blame onto others out of some bizarre sense of jealousy of another agency. I know a percentage of my money will most likely end up in some dubious hands along the way no matter how I book with, but childish idiots like this? Nope.


Offline portable

Is there any lengths Stacey/Amour wont go to, threats, lies, attacks, outing own girls and trying to frame the competition because there obviously doing well and she wants them gone

This is what I can't get my head round. For the most part, when an everyday punter wants to see a girl of a particular type, he's just going to click through all the agencies, indies and AW to find that girl, and then he's going to see them, and not really give a shit about what agency they work for.

The fact that one agency is doing well is potentially a total fluke, or because they are cheaper. That's literally the only factor baring a bad reputation, and that's only really something you can only find out about by coming on forums like this. So unless Amour's apartments are shit holes and they hire dodgy Romanians they've got zero reason to do all this bullshit in the first place.


greychap

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This is what I can't get my head round. For the most part, when an everyday punter wants to see a girl of a particular type, he's just going to click through all the agencies, indies and AW to find that girl, and then he's going to see them, and not really give a shit about what agency they work for.

The fact that one agency is doing well is potentially a total fluke, or because they are cheaper. That's literally the only factor baring a bad reputation, and that's only really something you can only find out about by coming on forums like this. So unless Amour's apartments are shit holes and they hire dodgy Romanians they've got zero reason to do all this bullshit in the first place.

I agree with you but they do and they have, I used them several times and thought they were quite good before I got threatened and had my car smash to bits and had to move and change numbers.

The problem is Stacey does come across as being nice at the start look at the way she uses her sites to constantly talk about her private life with the punters and make them feel sorry for her and tell them she loves them and there like her good mates but they get taken in and then she has punters that will go against other punters to stick up for her.

You don't see any other agency going to these lengths like she does and getting involved with everything and taking revenge on people that don't agree with her.

A wolf in sheep's clothing springs to mind, a major manipulator and dangerous individual.

Rod trotter

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Not an agency i would ever like to get involved with, ive used them but never again , what a snidy outfit underneath.

themademan2

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"He" previously made a (deleted) post trying to shitstir against me, which obviously was fed to "him" by the fat pig cunt aka Amy of Newcastle aka spokesperson of the Amour pimp.
Most ridiculous of all claiming I had deleted all reviews for a prossie who was banned, i.e. aforementioned fat pig cunt, when at the time "he" and others already had reviews about her in the review section  :wacko:
She must have a huge ass hole for mackydees and Amour pimp to be inside there  :sarcastic:


themademan2

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Aaah I see just looked at his 2 reviews it really all adds up now, Amy of Newcastle = Stacey's friend/ and he was here for the double bluff to blame a rival agency behind everything.
Bingo

themademan2

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So after Chesterlecopper got banned and that person had the same IP as Stacey at amour which admin would have figured out all 3 matched they would know this so then the long term goal was to blame a receptionist who used to work at Amour so it gets Stacey off the hook over the IP addresses and double bluffs by some people thinking Stacey wont slag off her own agency, and she nearly got away with it.

I wonder how long she had been planning this twist.

But then she did set up a complaint on here so she looked good by offering a freebie so less negatives if people go direct to her instead outing it on here.!!!!!!!!

And you was here to do Amours work and blame a past receptionist, its all adding up now :scare:
At least someone on the same wavelength as me and cracked this one. Desperate times call for desperate measures.  :cool:

themademan2

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Wow that would be nearly as stupid as making up your own bad feedback in order to give a freebie as good publicity.

Anth hit the nail on the head, it's not sensible, bright or at all useful to do that. I assume MadeMan that you're not in charge of advertising in your business otherwise it would clearly be UsedToBeMadeMan  ;)

imagine you had say, a taxi firm and decided to put it about that some of the drivers were pissed on the job on the hope people would believe that a rival firm was besmirching your name. It'd be business suicide.

The facts need to be looked at here, that IP address is a Virgin media one, I'm guessing if Admin pulls up the usage of that account he'd find it was used pro Amour at least 6 months ago and then against Amour since then. Coincidentally, Amour had a member of staff who happens to be on Virgin who left acrimoniously and set up a rival agency. That's just a coincidence of course and I'm obviously a fluffy for pointing it out  :scare:

Stacey meanwhile is on Sky, this can easily be confirmed by any of us who have received emails from either of these agencies. Have a scoot at the header files to see the IP Addresses they've been sent from. Then use an IP checker to see who it refers to.

If you find one from Amour in the last couple of months that match up with that IP then I'll happily eat my own cock.

No doubt MadeMan has a hundred he can check for Allure, I've already checked mine (both from the Allure email accounts and the owners spouses/personal one) and know the answer to the question so let's see eh?
Another dumbass bites the dust. Daft cunt  :cry:

I wouldn't be suprised if they aren't trying to message AnthG to get there view put on here from his perspective.  Luckily they won't be able to do that as AnthG has stated he's busy this week  :thumbsup:
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Offline AnthG

I wouldn't be suprised if they aren't trying to message AnthG to get there view put on here from his perspective.  Luckily they won't be able to do that as AnthG has stated he's busy this week  :thumbsup:

Yep I am very-very busy at the start of this week.

And no, nobody has asked me to do anything.

The only person who only really did what you are suggesting was TK. Every single time without fail she did it too. And she was a force of nature, and felt terrible saying no to her as she was very insistent. But haven't spoken to her for a couple of years now. (but before anyone gets confused she was a girl who works and lives down in Essex)
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Offline smiths

Is there any lengths Stacey/Amour wont go to, threats, lies, attacks, outing own girls and trying to frame the competition because there obviously doing well and she wants them gone, not to mention pretending she in with police and then trying to get rid of them by trying to get police to close them down (so I been told)

I wouldn't be surprised if nothing is off limits too try when many thousands of pounds a week are at stake. Remember many pimps are pimps for a reason, they cant make the same money legally so break the law by leeching off willing WGs.


OldAdmin

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Poor little Amour pimp claiming she is being picked on.
Now talking about "meeting with police today" to make some impression that she is reporting me to police  :rolleyes:

Offline AnthG

I probably shouldn't get involved as I always have this knack of making things worse when I do.

But can I ask, is there possibly an email address for the forum or anything that Stacey from amour could message you on as that topic is saying she is wanting to contact you to clear up all of this but doesn't know how to best do it.
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OldAdmin

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but doesn't know how to best do it.

The best way is not via making random mention of "meeting with police today" in a discussion about this thread. Now everyone reading that will think that meeting is to do with me and members who posted in this thread, even though she hasn't explicitly said it.

Offline Mansell

There is nothing to clear up, the screen shot of the IP addresses against the members on here are very clear. It's the same person anyone who has any dealings with website (yes I do) know that as fact.

I said earlier in this thread that I could'nt see why Stacey would have a go at her own girls. But have been thinking about that and it's obvious when you give it some though. She started this thread against girls that were mainly independant but did work a small amount for her. The more independant AW girls she can get shut down the more business for her agency.

So it's worrying to see Savannah suddenly gone with no warning, then Jasmin Kisses gets some grief and is gone. Lily & Eva are moving away, who else is getting hassle that we don;t know about as she will know all the girls personal details !!!! I'm now wondering if Blonde Babe Honey wasn't outed by a punter, but by Stacey ? no proof but makes you wonder.

So we all know who to look to first if any other independant girls suddenly stop working !! and if that's the case then I would suggest a boycott of Amour would be in order.

Offline flash1965

Jasmine is still working just doesn't have a profile at the moment

Hard To Please

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Savannah is now on the Amour phone team - must have just got tired of escorting.

Offline Dimond dave

 :wackogirl:
This is getting so boaring ,,,   We might as well ask this

is there an Area 51 if so can we visit

Who shot jfk

And will the toon win the cup


All worthy subjects ,, or wild accusations. 

 :angelgirl:

OldAdmin

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As some know there is a new website in the pipeline, where independent girls and agencies can freely advertise, without the restrictions found on UKP.

Links to this new site will be plastered all over UKP, similar to the current case with PuntingWiki.com (which has resulted in it going from zero to 67,000 unique visitors per month in less than a year, increasing daily).

I will make it so UKP reviews of banned agency owners will have links at the top and bottom to rival agencies and independents that operate in their area  :music:

Offline AnthG

The more independant AW girls she can get shut down the more business for her agency.

Lily & Eva are moving away, who else is getting hassle that we don;t know about as she will know all the girls personal details !!!!

I kind of am worried about being seen as Stacey's champion here. As this is getting freaky the stuff flying about here at the moment.

But just to clarify one thing that I can personally confirm on Lily and Stacey on the whole protection of personal details thing (which I am kind of worried Lily may get freaked at for me saying so sorry in advance if she does as this is not my intentions).

But Lily had signed up to another forum a couple of months back, and had used an email address with her real name on it, and then crazily clicked "display my address publicly to members and non members" so literally everyone, members of not could see it.

I seen this, messaged Stacey about it the second I had, and she then telephoned Lily as soon as I did and told her about it and how to hide it on that forum. Lily came online and hid it straight after.

if Stacey wanted to get Lily shut down, or wanted to cause problems to Lily, she would have done nothing at my messaging her about this. But she didn't she phoned Lily first thing to get her to come back onto that forum and put it right.

The reason why Lily and Eva are moving away is because, I believe, they were working from their university flat share. University tennency's end on July 31st so they are no longer at university and have to move out.

And also to say sorry to Lily if this freaks her out that I had seen this. But put it this way, many-many more people could have potentially seen this than just me. But its just a case of I am saddo enough to message to get it removed.
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Offline Mansell

I never said Stacey had anything to do with Lily & Eva, just put them in the same sentance. Bit like the Police comment Stacey made about this post earlier on :D :D

Nice to hear from the rest of the Amour fans as well. If you think this is boring then fine but if there is something going on then is seriously affects us all. Only time will tell but by bringing it out into the open then little things others have noticed and be aware of may add up to a much bigger picture.

Offline AnthG

if there is something going on then is seriously affects us all. Only time will tell but by bringing it out into the open then little things others have noticed and be aware of may add up to a much bigger picture.

As some know there is a new website in the pipeline, where independent girls and agencies can freely advertise, without the restrictions found on UKP.

If there is something going on with Stacey, I am guessing/hoping, when the new forum comes out, if Stacey wants to and is allowed to post on it then the whole IP address thing will be sorted out. And also the whole is she trying to out, or make life difficult for Cassie/Tori Taylor thing will be sorted too as Tori wil hopefully be allowed to be a member of there too. And if so Cassie is definitely not the sort of girl afraid to speak her mind so she will say one way or the other.
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Offline Mansell

If there is something going on with Stacey, I am guessing/hoping, when the new forum comes out, if Stacey wants to and is allowed to post on it then the whole IP address thing will be sorted out.

But Anth, there is nothing to sort out. Admin has posted showing that stacey@amourescorts is the same person as Chestercopperpot.

Hidden Image/Members Only

Which bit of that didn't you understand ? It's called getting caught out.

greychap

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If there is something going on with Stacey, I am guessing/hoping, when the new forum comes out, if Stacey wants to and is allowed to post on it then the whole IP address thing will be sorted out. And also the whole is she trying to out, or make life difficult for Cassie/Tori Taylor thing will be sorted too as Tori wil hopefully be allowed to be a member of there too. And if so Cassie is definitely not the sort of girl afraid to speak her mind so she will say one way or the other.

Anth it is true what Mansell said there is absolutely nothing to sort out she has been well and truly caught out for the nasty pimp she is.

Look at the evidence and info that we know about.

1. One punter before I was on the scene got threatened by her husband.

2. I started a threat about the 2 girl flat sharing, highlighting it even more and I had big trouble because of it and I was an easy target to shut up and it nearly worked.

3. information was shown about what she does when a girl or punter pisses her off she exposes there details to another hidden forum in the hope other girls and agencies will black list that punter so a number of people have there details which is supposed to be confidential, and these were not of a dangerous punter it was just her being vindictive.

4. Many touts and Amour friends have been on here with motives and only here for Amour.

5. Stacey signs up ages ago to post on here as Stacey@amour only when she creates another account at a later date to invent a  story about a punter will get a free punt if there is a problem with one the girls so it shows the punter don't maon on here go straight to Stacey and it will be swept under carpet and no bad reviews on here. Only then when she was caught out with the second account was she then saying its not me.

6. Knowing admin can link IP's to accounts she signs up as another alias slagging off her own girls and mainly ones where they do more independent work so when admin exposes it she would know people will go why would she do it to her own agency but a bigger bluff was at work, everybody knows she hates Allure and she sees them as serious competition so the next bluff is someone is on here to then say it was the past receptionist that did all of it so it fucks up there reputation, but admin saw through it.

Plus when she first posted as Stacey at amour with the same IP address as all the others she never ever said the first forum name Stacey@amour was not her only after she got caught out to frame the new agency she decides to give them the blame for all 3 aliases.

7. Trying to make out she in in with local police so punters and girls are scared to stand up to her.

I understand Anth there is limited agencies that you can uses especially as you don't always like using independents and cant use Diamonds so don't blame you if you feel you don't want to piss Stacey off but maybe its best not to say too much because there is no getting out of what she is.

greychap

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Poor little Amour pimp claiming she is being picked on.
Now talking about "meeting with police today" to make some impression that she is reporting me to police  :rolleyes:

And the police thing comes up yet again.

Wonder what new friends and spys that will sign up soon as hidden motives for Amour probably already a couple here we don't know about!!

Will keep my eyes open :crazy:

greychap

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I kind of am worried about being seen as Stacey's champion here. As this is getting freaky the stuff flying about here at the moment.

But just to clarify one thing that I can personally confirm on Lily and Stacey on the whole protection of personal details thing (which I am kind of worried Lily may get freaked at for me saying so sorry in advance if she does as this is not my intentions).

But Lily had signed up to another forum a couple of months back, and had used an email address with her real name on it, and then crazily clicked "display my address publicly to members and non members" so literally everyone, members of not could see it.

I seen this, messaged Stacey about it the second I had, and she then telephoned Lily as soon as I did and told her about it and how to hide it on that forum. Lily came online and hid it straight after.

if Stacey wanted to get Lily shut down, or wanted to cause problems to Lily, she would have done nothing at my messaging her about this. But she didn't she phoned Lily first thing to get her to come back onto that forum and put it right.

The reason why Lily and Eva are moving away is because, I believe, they were working from their university flat share. University tennency's end on July 31st so they are no longer at university and have to move out.

And also to say sorry to Lily if this freaks her out that I had seen this. But put it this way, many-many more people could have potentially seen this than just me. But its just a case of I am saddo enough to message to get it removed.

Oh and forget about outing her own girls to frame another agency, and a lot of the girls are doing more independent work then earning her the money so no surprise deep down she is very pissed off at a lot of these girls.

greychap

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I kind of am worried about being seen as Stacey's champion here. As this is getting freaky the stuff flying about here at the moment.

But just to clarify one thing that I can personally confirm on Lily and Stacey on the whole protection of personal details thing (which I am kind of worried Lily may get freaked at for me saying so sorry in advance if she does as this is not my intentions).

But Lily had signed up to another forum a couple of months back, and had used an email address with her real name on it, and then crazily clicked "display my address publicly to members and non members" so literally everyone, members of not could see it.

I seen this, messaged Stacey about it the second I had, and she then telephoned Lily as soon as I did and told her about it and how to hide it on that forum. Lily came online and hid it straight after.

if Stacey wanted to get Lily shut down, or wanted to cause problems to Lily, she would have done nothing at my messaging her about this. But she didn't she phoned Lily first thing to get her to come back onto that forum and put it right.

The reason why Lily and Eva are moving away is because, I believe, they were working from their university flat share. University tennency's end on July 31st so they are no longer at university and have to move out.

And also to say sorry to Lily if this freaks her out that I had seen this. But put it this way, many-many more people could have potentially seen this than just me. But its just a case of I am saddo enough to message to get it removed.

If you are worried Anth maybe just keep more neutral on the subject, there is a lot of members on here already where she knows who they are by there alias so some punters are frightened of even saying anything about her or even things they know.

greychap

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Maybe it was a distraction to facilitate a longer term strategy.

You got that spot on :thumbsup:

greychap

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If there is something going on with Stacey, I am guessing/hoping, when the new forum comes out, if Stacey wants to and is allowed to post on it then the whole IP address thing will be sorted out. And also the whole is she trying to out, or make life difficult for Cassie/Tori Taylor thing will be sorted too as Tori wil hopefully be allowed to be a member of there too. And if so Cassie is definitely not the sort of girl afraid to speak her mind so she will say one way or the other.

People can use more then one internet provider and she is very open about what she does for a living so probably has a thousand family members and friends that she could also use for internet so the sky internet is not a get out clause.

She is very good at giving the poor me sob story even bringing in her dying grandfather on a prostitution forum like she is some nun doing gods work or the virgin Mary.

She likes money and that is fact and will do whatever to keep that by pretending she loves some of the girls and punters so they stick up for her.

There is 2 types of pimps

1. That is vile and cruel from the outset that your scared of so will do what they say

2. The other that is a wolf in sheeps clothing that will go down the nice route saying how much she cares and will go out of her way to look like she cares about punters/girls that way she has a good chance of always earning the money.


Offline Highlander

There is nothing to clear up, the screen shot of the IP addresses against the members on here are very clear. It's the same person anyone who has any dealings with website (yes I do) know that as fact.

I said earlier in this thread that I could'nt see why Stacey would have a go at her own girls. But have been thinking about that and it's obvious when you give it some though. She started this thread against girls that were mainly independant but did work a small amount for her. The more independant AW girls she can get shut down the more business for her agency.

So it's worrying to see Savannah suddenly gone with no warning, then Jasmin Kisses gets some grief and is gone. Lily & Eva are moving away, who else is getting hassle that we don;t know about as she will know all the girls personal details !!!! I'm now wondering if Blonde Babe Honey wasn't outed by a punter, but by Stacey ? no proof but makes you wonder.

So we all know who to look to first if any other independant girls suddenly stop working !! and if that's the case then I would suggest a boycott of Amour would be in order.

Lol at Stacey as some sort of Keyser Soze figure in the background masterminding all the Indies retirements!

She's not Moriarty for flips sake, She's Stacey of Amour who doesn't understand IP's and gets quickly sussed for clumsy attempts at framing her rivals  :D

Rod trotter

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Hugely worrying stories these

So glad i wont ever use Amour, the just sound too risky if you want to remain anonymous

greychap

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Lol at Stacey as some sort of Keyser Soze figure in the background masterminding all the Indies retirements!

She's not Moriarty for flips sake, She's Stacey of Amour who doesn't understand IP's and gets quickly sussed for clumsy attempts at framing her rivals  :D

Yes I doubt she is behind every indie retirement girls do come and go as they please...but we know she outed a few of her own girls and plotted to bring down Allure by framing them for terrible things she has done.

Punters phone numbers, addresses and girls details are not safe with her company.