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Author Topic: Parlour Robbery North-East London - CCTV  (Read 2973 times)

Online Silverado

I came across this on PN. There's pretty good CCTV of the gang which has been posted on Youtube.

Obviously if you know who they are then you should inform the police or Crimestoppers.

If you see them hanging around outside any place that you're visiting - needless to say don't go in !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyrS1Q9FMfY&feature=player_embedded

Offline smiths

I came across this on PN. There's pretty good CCTV of the gang which has been posted on Youtube.

Obviously if you know who they are then you should inform the police or Crimestoppers.

If you see them hanging around outside any place that you're visiting - needless to say don't go in !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyrS1Q9FMfY&feature=player_embedded

In my area of London but i dont recognize either the location or any of the scumbags. I certainly hope they are caught.

There was a murder at a brothel in Burnt Oak which is in North London a few months ago where the security guy was the victim, they caught someone but not sure if others were involved. :diablo: ;)

Online James999

Increadible CCTV (compared to usual)

This topic should be made a Stciky to warn others and potentailly assist the police.

Offline adindas

Thank you for let us know ...
I second James opinion, if it is possible to make this thread sticky. It might warn punters and assist crime stoppers to catch those criminals.


I came across this on PN. There's pretty good CCTV of the gang which has been posted on Youtube.

Obviously if you know who they are then you should inform the police or Crimestoppers.

If you see them hanging around outside any place that you're visiting - needless to say don't go in !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyrS1Q9FMfY&feature=player_embedded
« Last Edit: January 02, 2012, 01:00:56 PM by adindas »

Online Jimmyredcab

Increadible CCTV (compared to usual)

This topic should be made a Stciky to warn others and potentailly assist the police.

They will strike again and if punters are on the premises they will also be robbed, utter scumbags. :mad:

scarey stuff.  The thing that scared me was the calmness of these individuals and no apparrent attempts to disguise themselves.  Clearly zero regard for anything. 

The cops should be able to nail some if not all of them for that!

Offline Lurtz

They will strike again and if punters are on the premises they will also be robbed, utter scumbags. :mad:

Interesting point, Jimmy. Perhaps punters should take only the cash they need and leave other valuables at home.

Interesting point, Jimmy. Perhaps punters should take only the cash they need and leave other valuables at home.

evening Lurtz,

after giving this further thought, im wondering.....

does any one know the TRUE facts?
is this a reported crime?
no one here,yet, has knowledge of the parlour yet and it seems to me there is a vast amount of London Knowledge on UKP.

I'm smelling a rat im afraid :thumbsdown:

no way am i going through the rigmarole of trying to get onto puntershite to investigate.

All im saying is it seems a bit whiffy.

i hope im wrong.
(ps thanks for the pillow biter stuff)

Online Silverado

after giving this further thought, im wondering.....

does any one know the TRUE facts?
is this a reported crime?
no one here,yet, has knowledge of the parlour yet and it seems to me there is a vast amount of London Knowledge on UKP.

I'm smelling a rat im afraid :thumbsdown:

no way am i going through the rigmarole of trying to get onto puntershite to investigate.

All im saying is it seems a bit whiffy.

i hope im wrong.

I'm a fairly sceptical person myself and I always question what I'm told -so I understand your viewpoint.

I've looked at it closely. The CCTV looks genuine. I don't think that this is a group of youths filming something for fun and then putting it on Youtube.

My guess is that this is an Asian parlour. The girl who gets pushed around looks oriental to me. Two white guys knock on the door. Three black guys wait outside. This is fairly common when robbing brothels because the black guys know that there's a high chance that they won't be let in - because they're black.

I'd put my money on this being a genuine brothel robbery. I don't think that the police posted the video though. The police wouldn't ask you to dial 999 and mention Youtube.

I don't know whether they've reported it to the police. Maybe they're doing it to scare the robbers off. They may well have closed the brothel and moved elsewhere in the borough. Putting the guys faces up on Youtube may be a good way of stopping the robbers doing it again.

We don't know who owns the brothel? it might be some very nasty people with gangland connections. Sticking the video up on Youtube and putting the word about within the community (with the offer of a reward) could be a good way of finding out who robbed it.

It's all supposition though. From looking at the video I'd say that it's genuine, and that punters should be warned about it.

As I type this there have been 104 viewings by members. I imagine that the majority of those are from outside London. As I said before, I think that this is a local asian parlour. I'm not surprised in the least that none of those 104 members have been able to recognise it from CCTV of the hall, garden and road. In fact I'd be pretty amazed if they did.

It looks genuine to me though, and if I went to a brothel and those guys were hanging around outside, I definitely wouldn't go in.

some good points Silverado.  We could go round in circles.

the Main issue is though to keep safe.
 The last job on earth i would desire is parlour security, i would have let the two geeky guys in as well. (pretty good set up from a criminal element.)  i can see how some could be fooled.

soon we will be waiting in cages like that one on Lock Stock.... :bomb:

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I don't believe anything ------ but that clip looks pretty genuine to me, if the police don't know about it then maybe someone should tell them ----- those dangerous scumbags need to be taken off the streets.  :(

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I very much doubt the police would encourage the posting of 'evidence' on u-tube.

Offline softlad

Well done for bringing this here Silverado.

I myself have spoken to two different ladies (indies) whom in the last year have had bad experiences with 'rogue' punters.
One was working from a hotel in Sheffield, took a booking over the phone from an 'Asian sounding guy' (her description), and two white youths came to her door wearing track suits/hoodies.
She was watching throught the peep hole as they sussed out the corridor before knocking on her door, luckily she was watching and saw them, so never let them in.
She was petrified to leave her room for hours she told me.
A lucky escape, as it turns out.
The other one told me she had just finished an appointment with a guy, who had seemed fine, but at the end he said he wanted his money back, and that if she didn't comply he would go to the police and hotel management and inform them what she was doing.
She told him her money was in the bathroom and went to get it, as she did she texted someone to tell them what was going on.
She told the guy what she had done and apparently he shit himself and legged it......
Again she was shook up, and had never had anything happen to her like this after over five years of being a hooker.

Is it a sign of the times ?
Or have these scum bags realised what easy targets some WG's maybe, as most won't report such (possible) crimes for fear of finding themselves in trouble.
Either way it's bad news, and about time the industry was legalised.


about time the industry was legalised.

Banks are legalised. Shops too, but it doesn't stop them getting robbed.

I don't meant to be facetious and I applaud your sentiment and agree with the other posters here that these people are scumbags. But the answer lies in the criminal justice system, and making the damn thing actually work better, and not in further regulation of a business that in virtually all regards these days does manage to operate on the right side of the law.
 

Offline JDM

Banks are legalised. Shops too, but it doesn't stop them getting robbed.

I don't meant to be facetious and I applaud your sentiment and agree with the other posters here that these people are scumbags. But the answer lies in the criminal justice system, and making the damn thing actually work better, and not in further regulation of a business that in virtually all regards these days does manage to operate on the right side of the law.

Regulating the industry will make the victims more likely to go to the police.  Under the present system the police are just as likely to arrest the victims!  Robbers know this so see them as an easy target...


Online Jimmyredcab

I very much doubt the police would encourage the posting of 'evidence' on u-tube.

No, you are wrong.

The police released this footage of a robbery which lead to the arrest of a local man called Anthony Bradley Joyce aged 30 .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gjcY93eQc0

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No, you are wrong.

The police released this footage of a robbery which lead to the arrest of a local man called Anthony Bradley Joyce aged 30 .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gjcY93eQc0

I meant random posting, I am aware however that the police will post wanted photos and videos when appropriate.

Online Jimmyredcab

We often hear ladies talk about ladies having "security" in place, this thread proves that is total nonsense, had this brothel employed a bouncer they would have simply knocked him out.
This is the same type of scum that we saw during the summer "riots" -------------- my solution would be a lethal injection.   :mad:

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We often hear ladies talk about ladies having "security" in place, this thread proves that is total nonsense, had this brothel employed a bouncer they would have simply knocked him out.
This is the same type of scum that we saw during the summer "riots" -------------- my solution would be a lethal injection.   :mad:

Some ladies do use security, and I have heard  tales/know of instances of guys being 'removed' from premises when they've drawn a knife or gotten out of hand. Tends not to be reported publically though, and or gets swept under the carpet.

Offline smiths

We often hear ladies talk about ladies having "security" in place, this thread proves that is total nonsense, had this brothel employed a bouncer they would have simply knocked him out.
This is the same type of scum that we saw during the summer "riots" -------------- my solution would be a lethal injection.   :mad:

As i posted the security guy was murdered at the Burnt Oak brothel, knifed i think.

Online Jimmyredcab

Some ladies do use security.

I am sure they do and I expect some girls have their pimp in the next room --------- but he would have to be pretty tough to overpower a gang of five, more likely he would be stabbed.   :scare:

Offline smiths

Regulating the industry will make the victims more likely to go to the police.  Under the present system the police are just as likely to arrest the victims!  Robbers know this so see them as an easy target...

If its a brothel you are quite correct that this may well happen. Its exactly what did happen to Cloud9 Escorts, they called 999 to report being robbed and the police never caught the robbers but took the owner to court for running a brothel ending in her conviction.

I think these scumbags see brothels as easy targets mainly because its a guaranteed cash business and its quite easy to send a mate in for a short punt who susses the set-up up while in there to ensure there isnt much if any security.

This was somewhere in my area of London and as i go to brothels myself i hope quite apart from wanting them caught anyway that they are asap.

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If its a brothel you are quite correct that this may well happen. Its exactly what did happen to Cloud9 Escorts, they called 999 to report being robbed and the police never caught the robbers but took the owner to court for running a brothel ending in her conviction.

I think these scumbags see brothels as easy targets mainly because its a guaranteed cash business and its quite easy to send a mate in for a short punt who susses the set-up up while in there to ensure there isnt much if any security.

This was somewhere in my area of London and as i go to brothels myself i hope quite apart from wanting them caught anyway that they are asap.

We are all at risk from criminals like this, punters and WGs more so than other business because it's assumed, often incorrectly that the victims will not report crime to the police. The other thing for would be criminals to think about is that on the flip side an unregulated area might also employ 'unregulated' bouncer-types,  or the girls could work for some nasty controlling types. You can hardly go to the police yourself if you've been 'helped' out whilst attempting a robbery in a brothel (or WG). So there is the possibility if could blow back in their faces too.

Offline softlad

We often hear ladies talk about ladies having "security" in place, this thread proves that is total nonsense, had this brothel employed a bouncer they would have simply knocked him out.

It was a guy that opened the door (in the youtube clip), perhaps he was the 'security' although not a very big chap.
Saying that, I once went to see an oriental type wg and there was a Chinese guy in the kitchen, he looked fuck all, probably about 10 stone wet through,
However, I was reminded of Bruce Lee........ :scare:

Online Jimmyredcab

It was a guy that opened the door (in the youtube clip), perhaps he was the 'security' although not a very big chap.
Saying that, I once went to see an oriental type wg and there was a Chinese guy in the kitchen, he looked fuck all, probably about 10 stone wet through,
However, I was reminded of Bruce Lee........ :scare:

Never underestimate small guys ----- especially Chinese/Thai        :scare:


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