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Offline Jimmyredcab

Can someone explain something to me, when we see figures of the number of trafficked WG's how do they arrive at those numbers. Surely if the girls are here illegally there is no way you could count them just as we have no idea of the true number of illegal immigrants in this country.

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Offline Wayang

Quote from: Jimmyredcab
Can someone explain something to me, when we see figures of the number of trafficked WG's how do they arrive at those numbers. Surely if the girls are here illegally there is no way you could count them just as we have no idea of the true number of illegal immigrants in this country.

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Ever heard of sticking a wet finger up in the air.  There is not even an attempt to do a statistical correlation from the very few identified.  It is just choose a number, after all 2,500 would look made up whereas 2,600 has an aura of correctness
Just like five a day fruit and veg - a complete invention.

Offline NIK

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It is painfully obvious that the statistics are just made up on the spot by people with vested interests e.g., people who survive on Govt Grants given to them to house trafficked women.  Clearly the larger the made-up number, the bigger the grant to "combat" it.

I do not know any genuine human being who would advocate allowing genuine traffickers to hold women under duress and to allow them to facilitate multiple rape each day - because that is what it is.  Any human being abhors this but fudged statistics by dodgy sources just means the real traffickers continue unseen.


Well, it isn't very often we agree, but I was going to say somehting along the same lines. You have actually expressed it better than I could.

this quite interesting

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Offline Mr XL

this quite interesting

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Makes you wonder.

I bet if it had come out saying that coercion was a big problem it would have been trumpeted in the media rather than left to lie quietly for those prepared to look................just like the headline grabbing report Jimmy quotes.

The use of the word 'Trafficking' within the media is a knee jerk word that muddies any real debate in my view. People mutter 'Trafficking' and straight away any thought goes out of the window.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2012, 08:53:59 am by Mr XL »

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As some will know Operations Pentameters 1 and 2 which were looking for trafficked women found less than 400 which is 400 too many but not the 4000 figure that HH used as fact to get her laws passed. Many of these didnt result in prosecutions let alone convictions either.

Some women from Thailand for example voluntarily agree to be trafficked here and agree to be bonded with the goal of having a better life for themselves and their families once the bond is paid off. The bond is many more times the cost of getting her here though and is of course illegal. I see it as wholly wrong myself but its obviously better than being forcibly trafficked.

ACPO was using a figure of 2600 trafficked women recently, once again no actual proof has been shown to back this figure up, its a made up figure that the authorities like to use to make the problem seem worse than the evidence has shown to be the case. I take all these non proven figures with a huge pinch of salt and will only be convinced when there are convictions.

Offline frank

When we look at the large numbers of estimated trafficked girls, we need to remember that the UK has very wide parameters in the definition of trafficking.  We tend to think on trafficking as kidnapping and enslaving girls, which is definitely the worst kind.  But there is the issue of debt bonding etc.  Even paying for a girl's plane ticket from an EU country (ie she's here legally) meets the legal definition of trafficking.  So by that logic any EE who works at an agency who's been given a little help coming over here is technically trafficked.  And that's not even it.  The recent case in Scotland was based on girls being moved from one CITY to another. When you consider the actual, legal definition of trafficking, the figures in that article look conservative. 


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