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306

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a sub who needs proper training and discipline of course.
i took this from a posting
what happens in a meeting
i can only guess
tieing up
whipping
face fuck
ass fuck
chocking
gagging
skull fuck
pegs
pain
caning
hair pulling
boobs tied
ball in mouth
blindfold

does the girl like it all?

squeezebox

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a sub who needs proper training and discipline of course.
i took this from a posting
what happens in a meeting
i can only guess
tieing up
whipping
face fuck
ass fuck
chocking
gagging
skull fuck
pegs
pain
caning
hair pulling
boobs tied
ball in mouth
blindfold

does the girl like it all?

..and that's just in the first 15 minutes!  :P

For me it's a little more subtle and you build up towards each event ensuring your sub is comfortable at each stage. The porn movies show a more extreme version of events, but with training and preparation, the session(s) can build up to quite an intense time for both parties concerned.

It's best to find a pro$$ie that enjoys the process rather than just chucking a few quid at one who's not into the experience. On their profiles they offer a minimum of a PSE and go into more detail about their likes/dislikes...ie: BDSM receiving.  Discussing boundaries is vital too.

It's more usual the pro$$ie needs to "know you more" and gain your trust before submitting to you more fully. This applies to civvies too.

My best experiences have been a MMF scenario with another that you know you can trust too.

Marmite

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If a person is new to the world of BDSM I would advise being present and then joining in a session with an experienced Dom and Sub.

For the uninitiated there is a steep learning curve, it will be challenging and it is not for everybody.  Trust needs to be established, role-play and the psychological interaction between Dom/Sub may be just as important as the physical.

Best place to start is a few discussion's with some experienced Dom's/Sub's.

yorkshire123

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Fuck me I struggle to slap a prossie's arse just in-case I do it too hard  :(

Marmite

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Fuck me

I am sure that could be arranged if you discuss it beforehand.

Offline Donald Fuck

Well, I have done a selection of that stuff:

Blindfolds
Whipping
Spanking
Paddles
Ring gag - better than ball gag because you can still suck their tongues
Collars
Breast tying
Nipple clamps
Leg spreaders
Hands secured behind head to anal hook, legs in frogtie + Hitachi
Hands secured to thighs
Arms suspended to ceiling
Legs suspended lying on back
Legs secured to wrists in frogtie with another girl working on her while I f*ck*d her.
All combined with delivering as many orgasms to the lady as she can manage.

This covers about 7 different girls - predominantly dommes exploring the other side.

No true pain, just completely giving up control. Most come back for more but they do get the chance to turn the tables on me.



Offline Dani

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If a person is new to the world of BDSM I would advise being present and then joining in a session with an experienced Dom and Sub.

For the uninitiated there is a steep learning curve, it will be challenging and it is not for everybody.  Trust needs to be established, role-play and the psychological interaction between Dom/Sub may be just as important as the physical.

Best place to start is a few discussion's with some experienced Dom's/Sub's.

Have to agree with this as its not something you can just play at without knowing what you are doing as injuries can be caused. Most subs are quite experienced and wont just allow anyone to tie them up (tying wrong can cause asphyxiation ) and they don't allow anything that can bruise or cause welts or cuts without knowing you and trusting you which takes time and patience

spkmstr48

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It's not necessarily about pain, although some like it and others can be trained to like it.

It's about surrendering control to you, the punter.

That's rarely going to happen on a first meet but you can get a feel for how sub a WG is.

In a normal punt tell her what to do, verbally or by moving her to where you want her with gentle but firm pressure. You will soon know if she complies quickly, eagerly and appears to get turned on by it.

As you build up a relationship, through further meetings, you can discuss taking it further but remember, communicate well and understand each others limits.

spkmstr48

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Fuck me I struggle to slap a prossie's arse just in-case I do it too hard  :(

If you feel the urge, just tap her lightly on the bum and gauge her reaction.

It's no different from anything else in sex, either talk to the girl about what you want to do or suggest it with your actions.

Offline gonewest

Fuck me I struggle to slap a prossie's arse just in-case I do it too hard  :(

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Little Katie

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Personally speaking as a member of a BDSM community with a fair amount of experience (I won't go into detail on here and scare my vanilla clients) - This really is a whole other world and there is so much more to it than a bit of spanking, choking and restraints.. It is a 24/7 lifestyle for some and is pretty liberating and empowering to all those involved so yes there are definitely women who "like it" but I will use that term loosely as every woman and indeed man has their own unique set of interests and limits whether dom/domme/sub/switch.
I can't imagine finding a genuine sub blatantly advertising as one on AW would be a particularly easy task as somebody already mentioned trust is a major issue as most would want to establish this before submitting complete control to a stranger. I currently have quite a few D/s client relationships going but these have been established over multiple meetings, activities and discussions and usually initiated by me and my love for all things kink related.  :P
My advice would be to read, research, talk, listen and experiment with your escort of choice if this is something that appeals to you. Safety is paramount especially with some of the more hardcore acts eg. suspension, electro play, breath play, needle play... etc.
You may find you enjoy B/D, D/S, S/M or the combination of these aspects.. Either way you'll have fun exploring!
xxx

Offline S.X. MacHine

This is a huge subject.
A very few girls advertise as subs. Last week I met with one who does, for the second time. She certainly knew what was expected of her as, she volunteered, she had been well trained at the age of 18 by an older master. They were in a sub/dom relationship. We spent some time on impact play; spanking, flogger and riding crop. To gauge the appropriate level of impact, I would ask her to rate each stroke out of 10 for pain. We got to 9.
She remained blindfolded, cuffed and had her nipples clamped throughout. I also kept up a narrative of what I would do to her, what my requirements were etc. This treatment got her very wet, as I discovered on checking her. After extensive use of increasingly large butt plugs, we ended with anal.
She clearly enjoyed it all as much as I did. She admitted to having been a Fetlife member before, but has a better time with guys she meets on AW with, as she says, no strings attached.
Such girls are the exception. I have, however, had very satisfactory experiences with four others who did not build their profiles around BDSM but who, it turned out, liked it anyway. It has been mentioned in other posts, that some WGs, bored with a constant diet of vanilla, actually get off on some spanking and submission.
I would advise any newbie that some subs are more into being submissive and wanting to please their dom, rather than being into the enjoyment of pain itself, although some are.
So, go easy at first and take your cue from your sub. You want to hurt her, but never harm her.

Offline Clooney

Hi there.

Could you give the link of the lady in question please? Either here or on PM.

I'm a pretty sensual dominant and I really enjoy the true Dom/sub relationship, but struggle to find the right girl.

Also, Katie, where are you based? I assume you are a working sub?

Cheers.

Offline Clooney

Also, here's a copy and paste of what I wrote on another thread on the Dom/sub relationship. It's my take anyway, and it ain't all flogging and pain!...

I think you'd actually be really surprised how much Dom/sub play is very sensual and even bordering on romantic. When you get it right, it is what some of the dickheads on here would disparigingly call "fluffy"

To be clear, domination and submission is about correction but also reward. If the submissive is compliant, she is very well rewarded. Lots of compliments, affection and tenderness. If she is unruly or a naughty girl, then she may receive a little encouragement to submit.

I've ended up making very slow, gentle love to submissives who started out very unruly but eventually give me permission to use them for our mutual pleasure.

I know you're not a Neanderthal and you'll get all this, but the key word here is permission. I cannot "take" a sub without her permission. She has to offer it, and I have to understand that I have great responsibility not only for her safety and comfort, but most rewardingly, for her pleasure too.

It is an absolutely beautiful scenario if it is done right. I need my sub to submit as much as she needs me to dominate. We're broken without one another.

A load of arseholes will be looking in saying this is fluffy crap, but it is the most intensely erotic, mutually rewarding sex you can have.  :kissgirl:

Tjkooker

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Every sub is different. Some are into real pain, some want verbal domination, some just enjoy the PSE style of slap about pull hair degrade sex.  I prefer the latter style.

squeezebox

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Also, here's a copy and paste of what I wrote on another thread on the Dom/sub relationship. It's my take anyway, and it ain't all flogging and pain!...

I think you'd actually be really surprised how much Dom/sub play is very sensual and even bordering on romantic. When you get it right, it is what some of the dickheads on here would disparigingly call "fluffy"

To be clear, domination and submission is about correction but also reward. If the submissive is compliant, she is very well rewarded. Lots of compliments, affection and tenderness. If she is unruly or a naughty girl, then she may receive a little encouragement to submit.

I've ended up making very slow, gentle love to submissives who started out very unruly but eventually give me permission to use them for our mutual pleasure.

I know you're not a Neanderthal and you'll get all this, but the key word here is permission. I cannot "take" a sub without her permission. She has to offer it, and I have to understand that I have great responsibility not only for her safety and comfort, but most rewardingly, for her pleasure too.

It is an absolutely beautiful scenario if it is done right. I need my sub to submit as much as she needs me to dominate. We're broken without one another.

A load of arseholes will be looking in saying this is fluffy crap, but it is the most intensely erotic, mutually rewarding sex you can have.  :kissgirl:

I read this on the other thread and I think you summed it up very well. Worth repeating again.

Offline Donald Fuck

I had a first booking this week with a normally dominant escort who wanted to explore her submissive side and I sent her a few links to reviews before the meet to get a flavour of the levels to expect (the vanilla end of the spectrum).

She had never been tied before and produced a long length of her own rope for that purpose.

I didn't use it, because I wanted to explore her body just using a blindfold and because I had no knowledge of her core anatomy to rope her properly.

Now that I do, I will try the rope the next time. The second half of the punt she blindfolded me and teased me to cum in her mouth.
By then our time was up but she lay down beside me, snuggled under my arm and we kissed and cuddled well into overtime.

This all sounds very fluffy, but apart from showing how good a service provider this girl is I think that it demonstrates her comfort level and that she is ready to place her trust in me to make her future submission an enjoyable experience. I would also be very comfortable with giving her power over me, should she wish to do so.


Offline Clooney

Thanks.

At the moment I'm getting really interested in Japanese Shibari rope tying after seeing this person on my Instagram feed and being blown away by the combined beauty of the model, the nudity and the flowers.

External Link/Members Only

Trouble is, I need a regular partner in order to attend the classes and at the moment I don't, so I'm a bit stuck.

But you can see the beauty of the restraint. Again, the resident morons will be rolling their eyes and laughing at this, but whether it is Dom/sub play or insanely dirty sex with Miss KDD, I want my punting experiences to deliver amazing, memorable and intensely pleasurable outcomes. That's why I punt with specific types of girls, not just to get my rocks off.

If it was just about that, I don't wish to sound conceited, but I'm in good shape for my age, am often taken for 5 years younger, am sociable, polite and am very able to "pull" if I wanted a string of one night stands.

But, the thing about being a Dom is that you must have immpeccably manners. I'm not into abuse or pursuing drunken shags just to say I have.

I want something far more memorable.

Offline Clooney

I had a first booking this week with a normally dominant escort who wanted to explore her submissive side and I sent her a few links to reviews before the meet to get a flavour of the levels to expect (the vanilla end of the spectrum).

She had never been tied before and produced a long length of her own rope for that purpose.

I didn't use it, because I wanted to explore her body just using a blindfold and because I had no knowledge of her core anatomy to rope her properly.

Now that I do, I will try the rope the next time. The second half of the punt she blindfolded me and teased me to cum in her mouth.
By then our time was up but she lay down beside me, snuggled under my arm and we kissed and cuddled well into overtime.

This all sounds very fluffy, but apart from showing how good a service provider this girl is I think that it demonstrates her comfort level and that she is ready to place her trust in me to make her future submission an enjoyable experience. I would also be very comfortable with giving her power over me, should she wish to do so.

Was that Lucy in Earls Court? She's sizzling hot!

I have to get round to seeing her again.

Offline CupidStunt

Anyone new and genuinely interested may want visit External Link/Members Only

Lots of sub-groups covering just about anything you can think of and more.

A lot of the groups have FAQ's and suggested reading threads pinned.

They may be few in number but there are good kink sp's out there eg Lindsey_xxx but ahahahah good luck getting a booking.

Best you can, checking your prejudices and pre-conceptions at the door seems to work for me. As does keeping the pre-meeting long texts/emails to a minimum and just booking a slightly longer first meet to cover limits and what you want chit-chat.

Sub/dom/kink... is as varied as the people practising it so, ultimately, it is what you want it to be. Communicate and have fun.

spkmstr48

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I read this on the other thread and I think you summed it up very well. Worth repeating again.

Exactly right, not fluffy

306

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 i be honest i met a escort the other week and she was dominant  , i was quite taken aback as i had not expected it. it came out of the blue i was shocked,
 what i am asking is what are the first tiny steps you take in to
one member being in charge .in control etc
i have tried nipple clamps on myself and find it a turn on ,
however the girls i have seen when asked to try
the answer was fuck that .it hurts too much .
i see another lady whose boobs are so sensitive she can hardly bear being touched.
what i am asking is this type of thing played out by a certain type of ladies
 or ladies who have tried before and liked it
or the type who have been trained (what ever that means ?) thanks

Tjkooker

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Over sensitive boobs. That old chestnut again.

squeezebox

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i be honest i met a escort the other week and she was dominant  , i was quite taken aback as i had not expected it. it came out of the blue i was shocked,
 what i am asking is what are the first tiny steps you take in to
one member being in charge .in control etc
i have tried nipple clamps on myself and find it a turn on ,
however the girls i have seen when asked to try
the answer was fuck that .it hurts too much .
i see another lady whose boobs are so sensitive she can hardly bear being touched.
what i am asking is this type of thing played out by a certain type of ladies
 or ladies who have tried before and liked it
or the type who have been trained (what ever that means ?) thanks

No-one said it was gonna be easy!

Overall, through discussion/experimentation, you/they will find your/their limit(s).  When you get it right...BOOM..you'll know it.  :drinks:

password02

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Personally speaking as a member of a BDSM community with a fair amount of experience (I won't go into detail on here and scare my vanilla clients) - This really is a whole other world and there is so much more to it than a bit of spanking, choking and restraints.. It is a 24/7 lifestyle for some and is pretty liberating and empowering to all those involved so yes there are definitely women who "like it" but I will use that term loosely as every woman and indeed man has their own unique set of interests and limits whether dom/domme/sub/switch.
I can't imagine finding a genuine sub blatantly advertising as one on AW would be a particularly easy task as somebody already mentioned trust is a major issue as most would want to establish this before submitting complete control to a stranger. I currently have quite a few D/s client relationships going but these have been established over multiple meetings, activities and discussions and usually initiated by me and my love for all things kink related.  :P
My advice would be to read, research, talk, listen and experiment with your escort of choice if this is something that appeals to you. Safety is paramount especially with some of the more hardcore acts eg. suspension, electro play, breath play, needle play... etc.
You may find you enjoy B/D, D/S, S/M or the combination of these aspects.. Either way you'll have fun exploring!
xxx

Hi Katie - would love to pair you up with London sub Lindsey when you get around to your London tour?

Any thoughts?

306

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Over sensitive boobs. That old chestnut again.

often found ?
is it a common wg problem?

Offline Donald Fuck

Was that Lucy in Earls Court? She's sizzling hot!

I have to get round to seeing her again.

I knew that you had enough information to make the link, Mr Clooney.

If you read her blog, you will note her recent association with Sadie-Strumpet, who I used as a reference and included a review of when I secured Sadie to her own St. Andrew's cross and dominated her.

I feel that you have to be particularly responsible when taking a girl's submissive virginity, because of the term implications.

I have done it before and it feels quite unique..

I sent a brief mail to Sadie saying how well I thought that my first meet with Lucy had gone and Sadie was kind enough to suggest that I could give courses in this field.

Offline Clooney

I knew that you had enough information to make the link, Mr Clooney.

If you read her blog, you will note her recent association with Sadie-Strumpet, who I used as a reference and included a review of when I secured Sadie to her own St. Andrew's cross and dominated her.

I feel that you have to be particularly responsible when taking a girl's submissive virginity, because of the term implications.

I have done it before and it feels quite unique..

I sent a brief mail to Sadie saying how well I thought that my first meet with Lucy had gone and Sadie was kind enough to suggest that I could give courses in this field.

Brilliant!

You lucky so and so!

So how did that go down then? How much did you push her? How did she respond?

Obviously feel free to PM if you'd like and feel it more appropriate.

The thought of her big, sexy, curvy arse and tits quivering with anticipation is greatly appealing!

Tjkooker

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Hi Katie - would love to pair you up with London sub Lindsey when you get around to your London tour?

Any thoughts?

Take it to PM password. Your encouraging her to tout on this thread.

Offline Clooney

Hi Katie - would love to pair you up with London sub Lindsey when you get around to your London tour?

Any thoughts?

That's an interesting dynamic. How would you see that working?

In only ask because for me two subs outnumbering one Dom is difficult to manage and give everyone the pleasure they need. Usually one sub ends up feeling a bit left out. For me it worked best when my ex who could switch and I doninated a young sub.

However, when it HAS worked for me way when I've forced two subs to 'torture' each other sexually and the one who does best and expresses her love for me most, gets the reward of being fucked eventually. The other has to watch and plead for inclusion which tests my patience as a master and draws punishment from me.

I force her to please the other more successful sub until she earns her own reward from me, but over the course of a few hours (this was not punting, but in personal life with my ex) the male dominant actually fucks and cums quite a bit less that the two subs do.

This is just purely my observation and experience. You may work things differently. I'd be interested to hear. I'm always keen to know more and get new ideas...

306

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Quesadilla

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Hi Katie - would love to pair you up with London sub Lindsey when you get around to your London tour?

Any thoughts?
Katie is not bi at all so not sure how that would work...

Tjkooker

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the answer is

Your a fucking weird one. Many poor service providers feign sensitive boobs/clit to avoid contact with these areas.

306

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i think your right after a few punters  they don't want to be touched at all

Offline Clooney

That's an interesting dynamic. How would you see that working?

In only ask because for me two subs outnumbering one Dom is difficult to manage and give everyone the pleasure they need. Usually one sub ends up feeling a bit left out. For me it worked best when my ex who could switch and I doninated a young sub.

However, when it HAS worked for me way when I've forced two subs to 'torture' each other sexually and the one who does best and expresses her love for me most, gets the reward of being fucked eventually. The other has to watch and plead for inclusion which tests my patience as a master and draws punishment from me.

I force her to please the other more successful sub until she earns her own reward from me, but over the course of a few hours (this was not punting, but in personal life with my ex) the male dominant actually fucks and cums quite a bit less that the two subs do.

This is just purely my observation and experience. You may work things differently. I'd be interested to hear. I'm always keen to know more and get new ideas...

Actually I'm an idiot! I just answered my own question, and I've done it before.

Don't know why I was asking... Duh!

spkmstr48

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i think your right after a few punters  they don't want to be touched at all

I would always recommend seeing the girl early in the day.

It would be interesting to analyse punter satisfaction against time of punt.

I suspect the results would be very illuminating.

Also worth remembering that only seeing girls who say they only see 1 or 2 punters a day won't help. Please remember guys, that's not really lying, just telling you what you want/like/need to hear. That's her job, to please you.

In a sense every WG is a sub to some extent as she is putting her own wants and desires aside to please you. Sometimes what pleases you may please her but that's not the point.

This is also potentially distinctly different from a civvy sub where her wants and desires are as important as yours.

Also important to remember that the WG is still a real person and your actions should never stray into any area that could be considered abuse.

Psychologically and intellectually it's a very complex area...

306

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 i not done it but say hair pulling as on profile does wg enjoy it ?

also being call a cunt ,slut etc is it play acting or do they enjoy it?
« Last Edit: March 15, 2015, 12:46:57 pm by 306 »

spkmstr48

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i not done it but say hair pulling as on profile does wg enjoy it ?

also being call a cunt ,slut etc is it play acting or do they enjoy it?

Difficult to say.

She might but she also might tolerate it because she thinks punters want it.

If she became your regular you "might" learn the truth...

Offline Clooney

i not done it but say hair pulling as on profile does wg enjoy it ?

also being call a cunt ,slut etc is it play acting or do they enjoy it?

Hair pulling is something that is liked by a lot of regulars and subs I see, but it is very black an white. No in between. A girl either likes it it not. If not, there will be no conversation about it. Simply don't do it.

But if she DOES like it, there are still things to observe. NEVER pull from the top of her hair at the scalp. It hurts and not in a kinky good way. It just plain hurts and you're likely to pull it out. No girl wants a bald patch!

Pull firmly from the bottom of her hair (like a ponytail) and pull slowly at first, don't yank. In effect you are raising her head backwards towards you. If you have a set of colour based safewords in your play (green, Amber, red) you soon know if you can increase the intensity or I you have to ease off.

Name calling is very personal. It usually takes me 2-3 sessions with the same girl to really let loose, but once I know that the girl is into it, and once she's completely trusting of me, and she knows me as the polite, attentive an well mannered gent outside of the bedroom, I get very verbal.

My most frequent regular really digs it, but it took a point in our second session to really understand how much. She was screaming some really debased stuff at me and I was back at her.

But I'd never have simply rocked up on day one and done that though. No way!

306

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any of this ?
Safety is paramount especially with some of the more hardcore acts eg. suspension, electro play, breath play, needle play... etc

JV547845

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a sub who needs proper training and discipline of course.
i took this from a posting
what happens in a meeting
i can only guess
tieing up
whipping
face fuck
ass fuck
chocking
gagging
skull fuck
pegs
pain
caning
hair pulling
boobs tied
ball in mouth
blindfold

does the girl like it all?

You're obviously a BDSM noob.  It all depends on the sub.  It's massively important to talk through exactly what the play will and won't involve beforehand, to make sure you're both comfortable with it all and know where each other's limits are.

306

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no i am not only asking to find out what it is all about
like gagging  , i wonder if girl likes it or just feels she must do it ?

Offline Clooney

You're obviously a BDSM noob.  It all depends on the sub.  It's massively important to talk through exactly what the play will and won't involve beforehand, to make sure you're both comfortable with it all and know where each other's limits are.

That's exactly it.

To the original poster...

I'd take far more time than just here to understand the culture, the dos and dont's and most importantly, the sub herself when you've discussed in detail on email, phone and in person what your expectations are.

If this seems over the top, BDSM probably isn't for you.

Offline Clooney

no i am not only asking to find out what it is all about
like gagging  , i wonder if girl likes it or just feels she must do it ?

As the man says, if the girl isn't into it, it simply won't happen.

The Dom/sub relationship is NOT about abuse at all. It is about working with the limits and likes of the sub (and of the Dom) if the sub isn't up for gagging (as the example you've used) you should simply never introduce it to your play.

This isn't about doing stuff the sub doesn't like. That's wrong.

Little Katie

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Sorry CLOONEY and PASSWORD.. I'm pretty sure it is against the rules for me to reply to your direct questions and engage in that type of conversation on a public thread..  :unknown: xxx

password02

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Take it to PM password. Your encouraging her to tout on this thread.

Yes sorry guys - Should know better

Offline Qwerty


 it is the most intensely erotic, mutually rewarding sex you can have:kissgirl:

All very interesting, and clearly a whole field that offers the above - for its participants. However I'd say it's somewhat arrogant to speak for me.

It may be the most intensely erotic etc. sex you can have, but I think you need to consider that it wouldn't do it for some of us, and that we might reach similar levels of intensity etc. by other means.

Quesadilla

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All very interesting, and clearly a whole field that offers the above - for its participants. However I'd say it's somewhat arrogant to speak for me.

It may be the most intensely erotic etc. sex you can have, but I think you need to consider that it wouldn't do it for some of us, and that we might reach similar levels of intensity etc. by other means.

I think what Clooney is driving towards (sorry if I'm mis-representing you mate) is that the total physical, psychological, emotional and sexual submission of another human being to you (and/or vice versa) is about as intense as it can get. 

If you have some other means in mind that might be equally as intense please share as I will need to add it to my sexual bucket list!  :drinks:

 

password02

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I think what Clooney is driving towards (sorry if I'm mis-representing you mate) is that the total physical, psychological, emotional and sexual submission of another human being to you (and/or vice versa) is about as intense as it can get. 

If you have some other means in mind that might be equally as intense please share as I will need to add it to my sexual bucket list!  :drinks:

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